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>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 24, 2023, CAROLINE COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
THIS MORNING WE HAVE PASTOR DARTANYON HINES OF
[1. Commissioners Meeting Convenes]
ETERNAL LIFE MINISTRIES AND DENTON HERE TO DO OUR INVOCATION.EVERYONE TO STAND NOW, WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> GRACIOUS GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO ASSEMBLE THIS MORNING.
FATHER, WE PRAY IN THE NAME OF CHRIST THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH US.
BLESS THESE COMMISSIONERS AND THIS PANEL WITH THE WISDOM TO GUIDE THIS COUNTY, DEAR GOD.
FATHER, WE PRAY FOR YOUR ORDER AND BEAUTY WHICH REIGNS FOREVER BEFORE YOUR THRONE TO BE PRESENT IN THIS MEETING HERE THIS MORNING, IN CHRIST'S NAME, WE PRAY AMEN.
>> COMMISSIONER PORTER IS FEELING A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER THIS MORNING, SO HE IS JOINING US VIA TELEPHONE.
HE IS IN ATTENDANCE BUT ON THE PHONE.
GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER PORTER.
>> GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING? NONE SEEN.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS A PROCLAMATION FOR CAROLINE COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK WITH MS. DEBORAH BOWDEN,
[3.Proclamation Caroline County Economic Development Week]
DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. GOOD MORNING.>> COMMISSIONER BARTZ HAS THE PROCLAMATION.
>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'M GOING TO READ HERE A PROCLAMATION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK, OCTOBER 23RD - OCTOBER 27TH, 2023.
WHEREAS THERE'S A VISION OF LIFELONG CITIZENS AND NEWCOMERS, HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES, AND RETURNING PROFESSIONALS, GROWING AND THRIVING IN A STEADFAST BUSINESS CLIMATE.
WHEREAS FOSTERING A DIVERSE LOCAL ECONOMY LEADS TO BUSINESS RETENTION, ATTRACTION, JOB CREATION, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND A ROBUST QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE CITIZENS OF CAROLINE COUNTY.
WHEREAS THIS IS THE PREVAILING CULTURE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE AND COMMUNITY.
WHEREAS PARTNERING WITH THE STATE AND LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS BRING TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO CAROLINE COUNTY.
WHEREAS WORKFORCE, COMMERCE, ACADEMICS,
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AND RECREATION ALL REFLECT A LEGACY OF AURAL VALUES WITH A VISION FOR EMERGING CAPABILITIES IN FARMING FOOD AND AGRA TECH.WHEREAS THERE IS A DYNAMIC BUSINESS COMMUNITY, IT WORKS TOWARDS THE BETTERMENT OF BUSINESSES, WORKERS, AND THE COUNTY.
NOW, THEREFORE, WE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER OF CAROLINE COUNTY, MARYLAND, DO HERE PROCLAIM OCTOBER 23RD TO 27TH 2023, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK IN RECOGNITION AND SUPPORT OF THE BUSINESSES WORKERS WHO ARE BRINGING PROSPERITY TO ALL AREAS OF THE COUNTY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ASK MY STAFF TO JOIN ME AND KENDALL TEAGUE, WHO IS THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
TARA HILL-COURSEY, WHO IS TOURISM MANAGER, AND CYNDY WATTS WHO STARTED OFF IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OF COURSE HAS MOVED DOWN TO ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE HONORED THIS WEEK TO TAKE THAT RECOGNITION OUT TO THE BUSINESSES.
WE HAD A GREAT BUSINESS VISIT YESTERDAY, ARCADIA LIVING, LAURIE INDUSTRIES WHO GAVE US SNACKS AND DRINKS, WHICH WAS REALLY NICE.
THEN WE WENT TO, NO I'M BLANKING. SOMEBODY HELP ME.
>> CHOPTANK SUPPLY, WHICH WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE TO HONOR THE BUSINESS IS ALSO A CUSTOMER.
THEN WE FINISHED OUT THE DAY DOWN AT LYWOOD ELECTRIC, WHICH WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A SCHEDULING SITUATION WHICH TURNED OUT FOR THE BEST BECAUSE WE GOT TO SEE THEIR EXPANSION.
THEY'RE DOING CONTROLLERS AND IT'S FASCINATING WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN FEDERALSBURG, ANYWHERE FROM $10,000 BOXES ALL THE WAY UP TO MILLIONS.
THEY'RE DOING THE SOLUTION FROM THE START ALL THE WAY TO THE FINISH, INCLUDING PROGRAMMING AND BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THAT.
THEN IT WAS NICE TO HONOR THAT HOMEGROWN BUSINESS THAT HAS JUST SEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SUPPORT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM IN CAROLINE COUNTY.
>> THANK YOU, DEBBIE. I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T MAKE IT YESTERDAY.
>> YOU WERE DOING BUSINESS, RIGHT? [LAUGHTER]
>> I'LL BE THERE TODAY AND TOMORROW.
GREAT. WE NEED TO COPY YOU TO THE BUSINESS AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAVE GOING ON CAROLINE COUNTY.
>> THIS IS ALWAYS BEEN MY HOME AND IT'S JUST BEEN A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE IN.
>> YES, SORRY, I MISSED AS WELL YESTERDAY.
WE WORKED ON THE BASEBALL FIELD.
THEY KERNEL OVER THE WEEKEND AND WE CAME UP A PALLET SHORT ON THE SIDE.
I HAD TO RUN OVER TO CENTRAL SIDE AND GET AN EXTRA PALETTE AND I HAD A COUPLE OF GUYS OUT SICK.
>> COULDN'T MAKE IT, BUT THOSE ARE ALL GREAT BUSINESSES AND THEY REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IN THE COUNTY HERE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR GOING OUT AND SHOWING THEM OUR SUPPORT YESTERDAY AND ALL WEEK.
>> MR. PORTER, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
>> NO. OTHER THAN THANK YOU, DEBBIE, FOR RECOGNIZING THESE BUSINESSES.
I THINK I'M A CUSTOMER OF ALL OF THEM AND IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO SHOW THEM OUR APPRECIATION.
THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO PULLED THAT TOGETHER.
>> YOU WILL HAVE COMMISSIONER PORTER TO SIGN THAT.
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RIDGLEY TECH PARK
[4.Ridgley Tech Park Discussion]
WITH DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DEBBIE BOWDEN.>> YES SIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
LAST WEEK, COMMISSIONER PORTER AND I AS HE REPORTED LAST WEEK, SPOKE WITH MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE ON TRYING TO HELP WITH A SOLUTION ON BRINGING DOWN THE COST PER ACRE AT THE TECH PARK SO IT CAN BE MORE MARKETABLE AND LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MARKET THE PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, SUCH AS THE DEBT AND INDUSTRIAL PARK, THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN FEDERALSBURG.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING AND IT'S BEEN IN
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DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF OUR PARTNERS AND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, IS THE NEED TO REALLY BE ABLE TO SHOW POTENTIAL BUYER THAT THE AGED INFRASTRUCTURE IS OR IS NOT READY.WE JUST DON'T KNOW, AND WE'VE NOT HAD ANY TYPE OF TESTING DONE IN THE LAST ALMOST 20 YEARS, SINCE IT'S BEEN FINISHED, ABOUT 15 YEARS SINCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN PUT IN THE GROUND.
I'M WORKING WITH MACRON ENGINEERING FOR THE WEST DENTON FEASIBILITY STUDY AND I ASKED THEM JUST TO GIVE ME A MAGNITUDE OF COST OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO DO SOME TESTING OUT THERE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEY SENT IN AND THIS IS FROM JUNE OF LAST YEAR, THEY PROVIDED JUST A STRAW MAN PROPOSAL.
THIS ISN'T ANYTHING THAT THEY PUT ALL OF THEIR THOUGHTS INTO, BUT THEY USE THEIR EXPERTISE TO DETERMINE THAT.
FOR ABOUT $12,000, WE COULD HAVE A STUDY THAT WOULD SHOW THAT THE SEWER WORKS, THE WATER WORKS, EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT THEY COULD TEST OUT, AND THEN THAT WOULD PROVIDE US WITH MORE INFORMATION SO THAT A POTENTIAL BUYER WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO PUT OUT THAT $12,000.
IT WOULD GIVE US MORE CONFIDENCE TO KNOW THAT FROM THE RIDGLEY STANDPOINT, WHAT THEIR ALLOCATION CAPACITY IS FOR WATER AND SEWER, SO WE WOULD KNOW IF WE WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM A HIGH USAGE OR PURCHASER.
THEN THE OTHER PART OF LOOKING AT IT FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT, I'VE REACHED OUT TO MEREDITH MEARS WITH M3 SYNERGIES, WHICH I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER BARTZ AND COMMISSIONER BREEDING, YOU BOTH HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HER INDEPENDENTLY ABOUT OTHER THINGS.
JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT WILL IT COST TO START A FORMAL MARKETING PLAN AND THE TYPES OF INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD NEED OUTSIDE OF LOOKING AT IT FROM AN ENGINEERING TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING IS THE SUBDIVISION.
THE TECH PARK IS ALMOST THREE-QUARTER MOON IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE THE LAYOUT OF IT, AND IN THE MIDDLE WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS 60 ACRES, BUT IT'S NOT SUBDIVIDED.
THE THOUGHT HAD ALWAYS BEEN TO PERHAPS SUBDIVIDE IT IF WE HAD SOMEONE THAT EXPRESSED INTEREST.
BUT COMMERCE, MEREDITH MEARS, OTHERS HAVE SAID IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO SUB-DIVIDE IT NOW AND THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUY MULTIPLE LOTS THEN THEY'RE PURCHASING MULTIPLE LOTS, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT FITS BEST.
ENGAGING WITH HER TO GIVE THAT OVERVIEW OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2023, 2024, WHAT BUSINESSES WANT, WHAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY IS LOOKING TO COME INTO THIS MID SHORE REGION? THAT WOULD ALSO BE $12,000 SO THEY BOTH BALANCE OUT TO BE $12,000 IN CHANGE.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THE RURAL MARYLAND GRANT.
WE'D SET ASIDE $15,000 FOR THE LEGAL WORK AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS, WE HAVE ABOUT $12,000 LEFT.
THAT LEGAL WORK ONLY COST ABOUT THREE.
MY ASK TODAY IS CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE OR BOTH OF THESE EXPERT LOOK AT THE TECH PART TO GO ALONG WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE PRICE POINT TO A MARKETABLE VALUE IN THE LEAST COMPLICATED WAY AND MAYBE BY TIME WE HIT THE MARK WHERE THE EDA GRANT THAT USEFUL LIFE CHANGES, WHICH IS AUGUST OF 24, WE'D BE READY TO MAYBE EVEN HAVE A DEAL OR HAVE SOMETHING ALREADY, A LETTER OF INTENT ALREADY AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, OR IF THE USE FITS IN WITH THE EDA, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHEN THAT MONEY GOES TO SLEEP, SO TO SPEAK.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR TODAY, I JUST WANTED TO BRING BOTH OF THESE PROPOSALS TO YOU.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FURTHER DISCUSSION OR I NEED TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
>> OKAY. THE FEDERAL GRANT RESTRICTIONS, SUNSET IN AUGUST OF 2024, THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY COME OFF.
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THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE THE MEETING THEY'RE RECEPTIVE JUST RECAPPING ON THAT MEETING.THEY'RE RECEPTIVE TO ALLOWING SALE OF THE PROPERTY AT THE ASSESSED VALUE THEN.
>> THEY'RE RECEPTIVE LOOKING AT IT AND MAKING A DETERMINATION.
IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THEM, SO THEY STILL WANT TO.
>> THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT. AFTER THE MEETING, WHICH WAS LAST MONDAY, WE COULD GO MONDAY.
I SENT OVER THE APPRAISAL THAT WE HAVE A TITLE SEARCH, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING A CASE FOR IT TO SAY, NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, THE VALUE IS NOT AT THE $33,000 PER ACRE.
>> AFTER AUGUST OF 2024, WILL THE END-USER STILL HAVE TO BE THE OCCUPANT OF THE PROPERTY, OR WILL IT BE ALLOWED TO BE A DEVELOPER WHO BUILDS A BUILDING AND THEN LEASES SPACE? WAS THAT A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT OR WAS THAT A STATE REQUIREMENT, I GUESS THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
>> THAT WAS THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.
>> THAT'S ON SUNSETS AND AUGUST 2024, WHERE A DEVELOPER COULD PURCHASE IT, BUILD A SHELL BUILDING, AND THEN LEASE THE SPACE.
THAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER AUGUST 12 2024.
DO WE KNOW HAS THAT PROPERTY BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN OF RIDGELY?
>> IT IS ANNEXED IN TOWN LIMITS.
HAVE THE UTILITIES BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE TOWN? IS THE UTILITY ASSESSMENTS, SOMETHING THE TOWN COULD HELP US WITH, AS FAR AS TURNING THAT ON AND POTENTIALLY DOING THE CAMERA OR THE MIRROR TESTS AND LOOKING AND MAKING SURE IT WORKS.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM, TO DAVID CRIST OVER THERE, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS OR? [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOT ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY OR IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE OUT TO DO THAT.
>> I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THERE AND TALK TO DAVID AND MEET WITH HIM.
DO WE HAVE AS THE COUNTY ANYWHERE HAVE THE OLD CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS?
>> CAN YOU GET ME A COPY OF THOSE AS WELL SO I CAN LOOK AT THOSE.
>> THERE IS SOMETHING THEY WOULD LOVE TO DO IS, DO VISUAL INSPECTIONS, TEST THOSE, AND ALL THAT.
>> I THINK THE TOWN OF RIDGELY MAY BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THAT FOR US.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT OF THAT SCOPE THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO.
>> [INAUDIBLE] CAME HERE TODAY.
>> WELL, I CAN TALK TO DAVID AND EVEN GO OVER.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW FOR SURE IF YOU LOOK ON MD MARYLAND ON THE GIS WEBSITE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT SHOWS THAT IT'S BEEN ANNEXED, BUT.
>> OH, YEAH. THERE'S DOCUMENTATION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S AN OLD ROAD THAT GOES BY THE SCHOOL.
THE DOGLEGS UP AND MEETS INTO HOG LINE?
>> YEAH. I HAVE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IT.
>> YEAH. YOU HAVE THE TOWN THERE AT THE SCHOOL AND THAT DEVELOPMENT STAGE, I THINK IT IS, AND THEN THAT ROAD NEXT TO IT AND IT DOGLEGS TO A HOG LOT, SO IT'S JUST THAT.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT MERLIN DOESN'T SHOW THAT.
I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WAS DONE, CERTAINLY BEFORE ANY PIPE WAS LAID OUT.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHEN THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, EARLIER 2000.
I MUST THINK THAT THE MONEY WASN'T EVEN FINALIZED BEFORE THAT WAS JOHN, BUT ALL OF THE TITLES, ALL OF THE DEEDS SHOW THAT IT'S IN THE TOWN OF RIDGELY.
>> NOW, I LIKED THE INITIATIVE TO TRY TO GET THE THING MOVING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEFORE WE APPROVE THESE, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER AND MEET WITH DAVID AT THE TOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HIM ABOUT WHAT HE THINKS.
>> WE SHOULD LOOK AT AS FAR AS THE UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING GOES.
THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I HAD WAS IF WE HIRE MACRON TO DO THIS ASSESSMENT, MY FEAR IS WE TAKE THE ASSESSMENT AND WE GIVE IT TO A POTENTIAL BUYER, AND WHAT IF MACRON, MISSES SOMETHING? WHAT IF THE WATER LINE IS BROKEN SOMEWHERE OR IF A SEWER LINE IS CLOGGED OR SOMETHING'S WRONG? IF WE MAKE A MISREPRESENTATION TO THE BUYER THROUGH THIS, WHO WOULD BE LIABLE FOR THE MISTAKE OR THE ISSUE?
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I DOUBT MACRON WOULD BE FOR 12,000.I IMAGINE THAT IT WILL FALL BACK ON US SO REALLY, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT US POTENTIALLY MISREPRESENTING THE STATE, THE ACTUAL TRUE STATE OF THE UTILITIES THERE.
>> THAT WOULD BE HANDLED WITH A DISCLAIMER THAT THE POTENTIAL BUYER WOULD SIGN AS WELL, INDICATING THAT THIS IS SIMPLY A PUBLIC DOCUMENT PAID FOR BY PUBLIC FUNDS AND YOU'RE ENTITLED TO A COPY OF IT EVEN IF YOU REQUESTED UNDER THE PIA.
WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY REPRESENTATIONS EXCEPT THAT THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT WE OBTAINED FROM A CROWD.
IT'S IN OTHER WORDS, USE IT AS YOU SEE FIT AND DOUBLE-CHECK IT AS YOU MAY NEED TO, BUT WE ASSUME THAT LIABILITY FOR IT SAYS.
>> BRIAN DOES THAT LAYER, SO IT'S BEEN ANNEXED.
OKAY. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE OLD GIS OR THE MAP IMAGE.
>> I WAS LOOKING AT THE DOTTED LINE, THEY HADN'T UPDATED THE OLD DOTTED LINE AROUND THE TOWN LIMIT.
I DIDN'T CLICK ON THE ACTUAL LAYER.
>> YEAH. THANKS. WELL, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD IF YOU COULD GIVE ME THOSE PLANS, SO I CAN START REVIEW THE LAYOUT AND SEE.
>> BECAUSE HERE'S THE OTHER THING TOO.
WE MAY PAY FOR A STUDY FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT THE UTILITIES AND THEN THE END USER MAY NOT, EVEN THE CONFIGURATION OF THE EXISTING UTILITIES MAY NOT FIT THEIR USE AND THEY MAY HAVE TO REDO IT ANYWAY.
WE MAY NOT ULTIMATELY EVEN NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE CORRECT.
THE LAYOUT OF THE PARK BAFFLES ME ANYWAY.
WHY ALL THE PARKING LOT IS IN ONE SPOT RIGHT IN THE CENTER WITH NO REAL SPACE TO BUILD A BUILDING NEXT TO SOME OF THE PARKING AREAS? IT BAFFLES ME.
>> I THINK ALSO IN REACHING OUT TO THE TALENT IN A MORE FORMAL WAY WITH THIS PLAN, INSTEAD OF EACH POTENTIAL BUYER REACHING OUT TO THEM.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT IS ASKED THAT I DON'T FEEL I HAVE A FIRM ANSWER ON AND TALKING WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN, IS WHAT IS THAT CAPACITY? DOES THE TOWN HAVE WATER CAPACITY FOR ANY GIVEN USER? I THINK THAT FROM A MORE FORMAL COMMISSIONER, SOMEONE WHO HAS EXPERTISE IN THAT, SOMEONE'S USED TO THE LANGUAGE, THAT ALONE IS GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL.
>> KNOWING THAT AND THAT IS ONE QUESTION, AND I'M GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER PORTER IF HE CAN MAKE SURE THAT I'M REPEATING THIS CORRECTLY.
THAT COMMERCE DID ASK FOR US TO VERIFY IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS STILL VERY LOOSELY ANY GOOD AND I THINK THAT IF WE GET THAT ANSWER.
WHAT IS THE CAPACITY? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT MARKETING TO, AND IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE ANY GOOD?
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL.
>> WELL, MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THEY DID ASK THAT QUESTION, BUT I REALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BREEDING.
I THINK ANYONE THAT WE HIRE TO TALK ABOUT THE UTILITIES OR ALLOCATION.
THEY ARE SIMPLY GOING TO GO TO THE RIDGELY TOWN OFFICE AND TALK TO DAVID CRIST.
I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT WITHOUT REACHING OUT TO HIM AND SEEING HOW MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION HE CAN PROVIDE, THAT I'M INTERESTED IN PAYING SOMEONE TO JUST SIMPLY GO ASK QUESTIONS AND WE CAN ASK OURSELVES.
THAT'S WHERE I'M LOOKING, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE MARKETING PART, I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO REMEMBER HOW MANY MARKETING STRATEGIES OR SPIN ON THIS PARK OVER THE YEARS.
BUT I WOULD PREFER TO REACH OUT AND GET THE INFORMATION DIRECTLY.
THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO FILL IN THE GAP THEN I'M OKAY WITH LOOKING AT BRINGING IN ANOTHER THIRD PARTY.
I WOULD ALSO COMMENT THAT THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT THIS WEEK TO A PARTICULAR PERSON WHO LIVES IN THE COUNTY DIRECTLY BY COMMERCE, WHO I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO VISIT HIS BUSINESS OR FOR SETTING UP DATES TO VISIT HIS BUSINESS TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM LOCATING THERE.
>> BUT I DON'T WANT TO PAY SOMEBODY TO GET INFORMATION THAT WE COULD PROBABLY GET BY A VISIT DIRECTLY.
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BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT RIDGELY HAS NOT DONE ANY TESTING.
SO THAT PART I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
DO THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT TESTING?
>> RIGHT. OKAY, WHAT MY CLIENT IS GOING TO DO MAY NOT SUFFICE FOR WHAT THEY NEED.
THEY MAY WANT INFILTRATION TESTING DONE, WHICH WOULD BE PRESSURE TESTS.
I DON'T KNOW, I NEED TO TALK TO DAVID AND SEE WHAT THE TOWN ORIGINALLY IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE CAMERA OR A MIRROR TEST MAY NOT BE ENOUGH ON A SEWER MAIN.
THEY MAY WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO GROUNDWATER INTRUSION.
SO THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO ACTUALLY PUT TEST BALLS IN, PRESSURIZE THE PIPE, MAKE SURE THERE'S NO AIR LEAKS.
>> SO THERE'S DIFFERENT TESTING PROCEDURES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DONE AND DOCUMENTED WHEN CONSTRUCTION TOOK PLACE OR IF THE TOWNS STILL FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH IT 19 YEARS LATER, 20 YEARS LATER.
SAYING THAT ALL OF THE SEWER AND WE MAY HAVE TO ACTUALLY PUT WATER INTO PUMP STATION, TURN THE PUMP ON FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, MAKE SURE THERE'S NO LEAKS IN THE FORCE MAIN BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A PUMP STATION OUT THERE WHERE IT'S PUMPED ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OR TO A MANHOLE.
SO IT MAY NEED MORE DETAILED TESTING DONE.
I'D JUST LIKE TO LOOK AT THEM.
MAYBE I CAN HELP WRITE A SCOPE OF WORK TOGETHER WITH MY BACKGROUND TO COVER SOME OF THIS STUFF, SO THAT WE MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL OF OUR BASIS.
>> IF RIDGELY COMES BACK AND SAYS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY OR THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME.
THEN I SAY BACKFILL THAT WITH THE INFORMATION WE NEED FROM ANOTHER PARTY.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE DAVID OR SOMEONE SHOW UP AND SAY, WELL, I HAD ALL THAT INFORMATION IF YOU GUYS HAVE JUST ASKED ME.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID.
IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THEN I'M FINE WITH ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH SOMEONE ELSE.
>> I THINK THAT PROPOSAL SHOULD BE RUN BY THE TOWN OF RIDGELY BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ACCEPTING AUTHORITY.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY AGREE AND THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE OVER MAINTENANCE OF THAT.
>> EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE [INAUDIBLE] MEETING WITH THE COMMERCE SECRETARY AND DEBBIE FOR TRYING TO GET THIS ROLLING AND GETTING A BETTER PERSPECTIVE ON THE TRUE VALUE OF THE LAND.
BUT I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU AND COMMISSIONER PORTER.
WE NEED TO GO TO RIDGELY TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE AND I THINK WE COULD DO THIS FOR THEM IN MATTER OF A WEEK WE CAN GET THIS.
>> I'LL GET OVER THERE AND TALK TO DAVID.
>> I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES WILL BE AS WELL.
LIKE YOU'D LIKE YOU INDICATED.
DO THEY HAVE CAPACITY? BECAUSE I KNOW PLANNING COMMISSION JUST RECENTLY APPROVED A WATER TOWER APPLICATION.
SO DO THEY HAVE THE WATER CAPACITY? I THINK THEY HAVE THE SEWER.
BUT HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO KIND OF GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE BEFORE WE SPEND ANY MORE MONEY ON THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
>> SO WE'RE WAITING ON COMMERCE TO ACTUALLY.
THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE INFORMATION THEY'VE REQUESTED, WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO US AND SAY, YES, THIS DOLLAR FIGURE PER ACRE IS ACCEPTABLE TO US.
>> IS THAT WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON, RIGHT?
>> I SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HEDGE THEIR BETS AND SAY THAT WHEN WE HAVE INTERESTS PUSH IT UP TO THEM AND THEN THEY WILL SAY YES FOR THIS PARTICULAR PURCHASE, IT CAN BE THIS PRICE.
>> I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT WAS COMMERCE WAS PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE A HAIRCUT ON THE LAND, THEY HAD TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT HAIRCUT TO THEIR FINANCIAL REVIEW PEOPLE AND THEIR AUDITOR'S.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, SHOW ME SOMEONE YOU'VE GOT THAT WANTS TO BUY THIS PROPERTY OR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY THIS PROPERTY, AND THEN THEY WILL REVIEW IT FROM THERE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> I THINK IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS YOU'RE WAY BETTER OFF HERE AND THAN YOU WERE IN NINE MONTHS AGO.
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THAT GOT A BETTER HANDLE ON EVERYTHING THAN YOU WERE NINE MONTHS AGO.>> ABSOLUTELY. CORRECT. THANK YOU.
WE'LL KEEP THOSE IN THE BACK POCKET AND THEN I'LL TALK TO DAVID AND SEE OVER THE TOWN OF RIDGELY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND SEE IF WE CAN IRON OUT OF SCOPE OF WORK FOR REVIEW FOR THE THINGS THAT HE FEELS NEEDS TO BE TESTED THAT HE CAN HANDLE IF ANYTHING.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT, COMMISSIONER PORTER?
>> WE GOT DEBBIE FOR ANOTHER ITEM HERE.
[LAUGHTER] SHE'S AT THE TOP OF THE LIST HERE.
[5.Introduction & Discussion of Mid Shore Regional Council Comprehensive Economic Development Strategy (CEDS)]
THE FIRST THREE THINGS, THE INTRODUCTION AND DISCUSSION OF THE MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY THAT DESERVES THE BE AN ACRONYM.>> SO THE MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL PRODUCES THE CEDS.
THAT'S WHAT WE ALL CALL IT, THE COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AS PART OF THEIR FUNDING FROM THE US ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION AND THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE.
THE MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL USES THE DOCUMENT.
IT'S A PLANNING DOCUMENT, IT'S NOT A PROJECT OR A PROGRAM DOCUMENT.
BUT IT IS A WAY FOR THE THREE MEMBER COUNTIES AND THE TOWNS TO HAVE IN THE DOCUMENT, PROJECTS THAT ARE LARGE IN SCOPE AND BY THAT NATURE HAVE A REGIONAL IMPACT OR REGIONAL INTERESTS.
EVERY YEAR THE COUNTIES ARE ASKED TO SUBMIT TO MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL PROJECTS TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE PUT INTO THE CEDS.
IT IS JUST A WAY FOR CAROLINE COUNTY TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT THEY FEEL NEED FEDERAL FUNDING EITHER FROM EDA OR USDA.
A LOT OF PROJECTS GET FUNDED THROUGH USDA RURAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE BRIEFING MATERIAL THAT CURRENT PROJECTS ARE THE TECH PARK, THE TOWN OF DENTON AND HAVE PUT IN A PROJECT FOR FIBER, THE FRANK ADAMS INDUSTRIAL PARK EXPANSION, WHICH WAS THAT JUST TO GIVE IT A QUICK HISTORY, BACK IN 2017, 2018, THE TOWN OF FEDERALSBURG THOUGHT ABOUT BUYING THE 200 ACRES OR 100 ACRE SMITH FARM.
SO WE PUT THAT IN THE CEDS AS A WAY FOR MAYBE GETTING EDA OR USDA GRANT.
THEN AQUA CON PUT THEIR LETTERS IN AND NOW OF COURSE, MILL CREEK IS LOOKING AT IT.
SO THAT PROJECT WILL PROBABLY BE REMOVED.
THE CHOPTANK TANK COMMUNITY HEALTH FEDERALSBURG LOCATION, THE DATA-CENTER SHELL BUILDING, WHICH WAS PART OF THE RURAL MARYLAND MONEY THAT'S BEEN RE-ALLOCATED TO OTHER PROJECTS.
SO THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE REMOVED IN THIS NEXT ITERATION OF THE CEDS.
THE NORTH CAROLINE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH CAME THROUGH FROM PLANNING [INAUDIBLE].
SO IT'S THERE FOR THAT FEDERAL FUNDING AND THEN THE CHESAPEAKE CULINARY CENTER.
SO ON A FEDERAL LEVEL WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS DOCUMENTATION, THAT A PROJECT THAT A COUNTY OR TOWN IS MAKING APPLICATION IS HAS A REGIONAL IMPACT AND IS IN SOME STRATEGIC DOCUMENT.
SO THIS DOCUMENTS SERVES THAT FOR CAROLINE COUNTY, TALBOT COUNTY, AND DORCHESTER COUNTY IT'S JUST ONE WAY OF CHECKING ANOTHER POSITIVE BOX FOR A FEDERAL GRANT.
SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE REQUEST HAS BEEN PUT OUT BY THE MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL TO INCLUDE PROJECTS IN NEXT YEAR'S CEDS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M COMING TO YOU WITH, TO INTRODUCE IT THIS TIME AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS WE MAY WANT TO INCLUDE THAT HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR RURAL DEVELOPMENT BENEFIT.THEN NEXT WEEK I'LL BRING IN THAT LIST OF PROJECTS FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, AND THEN I'LL SUBMIT IT TO MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL.
>> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE JUST NATURAL INCLUSION WOULD BE THE CHOPTANK MARINA AND THE DENTON INDUSTRIAL PARK BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO THAT ARE ALREADY FUNDED THROUGH THE RURAL MARYLAND MONEY.
>> SPECIFICALLY ON THAT DENTON INDUSTRIAL PARK PROJECT WOULD BE AN UPGRADE POTENTIALLY TO THE SEWER PUMP STATION.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE TOWN MANAGER FOR THE TOWN OF DENTON AND THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PUMP STATION THAT
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SERVICES THE EXISTING DENTON INDUSTRIAL PARK TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL FLOW FROM THE EXPANSION THROUGH OUR PROPERTY AND WHATEVER POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WE MAY HAVE THERE.SO WE COULD SPECIFICALLY ADD THAT TO TRY TO HELP GET GRANT FUNDING TO UPGRADE THAT PUMP STATION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> COMMISSIONER PORTER, GOOD WITH THAT?
>> UPGRADE PUMP STATION AND THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC.
I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE A SPECIFIC GRANT THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO AN AGENCY.
BUT WE CAN ALSO JUST PUT IN GENERAL OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AS NEEDED.
THEN EACH YEAR, AS THE CEDS IS REVIEWED, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT WE WILL PUT IN MORE ROADS OR YOU HAVE LANDSCAPING OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
>> I JUST BRING THAT UP BECAUSE IF IN FACT, A MIDDLE SCHOOL WERE TO GET BUILT THERE, WE WOULD NEED A BIGGER PUMP STATION.
IF WE WERE TO EVER BE ABLE TO HOOK UP THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY SERVICES, ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO INCREASE FLOW INTO THAT PUMP STATION, ALONG WITH THE INDUSTRIAL PARK EXPANSION, SO I KNOW THAT'S A CONCERN SPECIFICALLY.
>> THE GREENSBORO LIBRARY, I DIDN'T KNOW SINCE WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE A PLACEHOLDER IN THIS DOCUMENT.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT COMMITTING A SPECIFIC PROJECT, WE'RE JUST SAYING, THIS IS A NEED.
WE'D ALREADY PUT IN FOR THE RURAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND.
IT GOT KICKED BACK BECAUSE THAT WAS PURELY COMMERCE-DRIVEN, BUT THE CEDS IS ALSO DEVELOPMENT-DRIVEN.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH PUTTING THAT IN THERE BUT COMMISSIONER PORTER, YOU KNOW MORE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE?
>> WHAT WOULD THIS BE FOR? WE'VE MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR WE'RE NOT DOING WORK TO THE BUILDING.
SO UNLESS THIS IS FOR PROGRAMS, WHAT WILL WE SPEND THE MONEY FOR?
>> THERE'S NO MONEY ACTUALLY. I KNOW THIS IS WEIRD.
WE'RE PUTTING A PLACEHOLDER IN THIS DOCUMENT SO THAT WHEN PLANS ABOUT WHAT THE LIBRARY WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHETHER IT STAYS IN MRDC OR IT BECOMES SUCH THAT WE NEED TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER BUILDING OR THERE ARE PROGRAMMATIC CHANGES BECAUSE WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THEN WE HAVE A PLACEHOLDER IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN SAY MORE LIKELY TO USDA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WELL, IT'S A STRATEGY FOR US AND IT HAS A REGIONAL IMPACT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LOCAL COMMUNITY LIBRARY, IT'S SERVING A VERY RURAL PART OF CAROLINE COUNTY.
POVERTY TENDS TO BE MORE PREVALENT IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT COULD ACCESS IT FROM DELAWARE OR EVEN NORTH PART OF QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT IT'S PUTTING A PLACEHOLDER IN THIS DOCUMENT.
SO AS THOSE PROJECTS COME INTO PLAY, WE CAN SAY TO THE FEDERAL GRANTORS, YES, IT'S PART OF OUR STRATEGY, YES, IT'S IN THIS REGIONAL DOCUMENT.
METRO REGIONAL COUNCIL WILL VET THE PROJECTS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO NOT INCLUDE IT IN THIS CONVERSATION.
>> THIS IS ALL FOR FUTURE PLANNING.
I THINK THAT'S THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS FOR THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER EVERY YEAR.
IT'S JUST LIKE SAY, HEY, IF THE OPPORTUNITY COMES UP IN SOMETHING, THE MONEY'S THERE, THEN, HEY, WE'LL GO FOR IT.
THERE'S NOTHING SET IN STONE ON THIS.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE EVERY YEAR THAT SAYS THIS MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL PROJECT, IT'S JUST HYPOTHETICAL.
>> IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT THE NORTH BRANCH IN, I WOULD THINK, COMMUNITY SPACES AT BOTH FEDERALSBURG AND GREENSBORO, I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE FEDERALSBURG AS WELL, DON'T YOU THINK COMMISSIONER PORTER?
>> I THINK SO, YEAH. I UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY MOVING TO ANOTHER LOCATION OR I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO, I WOULD RATHER CHANGE THAT TO BE OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM.
WHAT IS THE CULINARY CENTER IN THERE FOR?
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY AN OLD PROJECT.
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THE BUILDING WAS BEING RENOVATED, IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE CEDS BECAUSE OF THAT FEDERAL FUNDING STREAM CAME INTO PLAY AND THEN THEY CONTINUED TO GET FEDERAL AND STATE MONEY FOR PROGRAMS. CONTINUING TO BE IN THE CEDS DOCUMENT HELPS WITH THAT.AGAIN, IT'S NO OBLIGATION FOR THE COUNTY, IT'S NOTHING THAT THE COUNTY IS NECESSARILY SPONSORING.
IT WAS THE CULINARY CENTER ITSELF.
>> WELL, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THE REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER AND YMCA SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.
>> IF WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME OFF, IS THERE A LIMIT TO THE NUMBER THAT WE CAN ADD?
>> THERE IS NOT. I'M SORRY. I WAS SHAKING MY HEAD THEN I REALIZED YOU COULDN'T SEE ME.
>> A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ON THIS CEDS THING DON'T EVEN COME, THEY JUST FALL OFF.
THEY'LL BE ON THERE, THEY'LL SIT THERE FOR A YEAR, AND THEY'LL JUST FALL OFF THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
>> WELL, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT LOOKS GOOD ON A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE THESE PROGRAMS LISTED.
>> YEAH, IF WE HAVE A NEED FOR IT, IT'S THERE, IF THE OPPORTUNITY POPS UP FOR A GRANT.
>> WHATEVER SENSE THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? [LAUGHTER]
>> YES. IT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU'RE THERE WATCHING IT AND HOW SCOTT WARNER DOES IT.
HE'S REQUIRED TO DO IT EVERY YEAR, BUT IT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU'RE THERE.
BUT IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN, I KNOW WHAT DEBBIE IS TRYING TO SAY HERE, BUT IT IS HARD TO EXPLAIN.
>> WELL, THE IRONIC THING IS THE REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER WOULD POTENTIALLY BE IN THE UPPER SHORES REGION, RIGHT?
>> IN QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY, BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER, THAT WOULDN'T MATTER.
>> BUT IF ALL THE REGIONAL COUNCILS HAD IT ON THEIR PLAN, THEN IT WOULD COME TOGETHER [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING] THE UPPER SHORE HAD IT ON THEIR CEDS, THEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD SEE IT.
>> I AGREE BOTH OF THOSE SHOULD BE ADDED.
>> SCOTT SHOULD PROBABLY BE IN TOUCH WITH THE UPPER SHORE AND SAY, HEY, [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT IT ON YOURS.
>> THE TOWN OF DENTON BROADBAND FIBER NETWORK, THAT'S BEEN DONE, CORRECT, OR ARE THEY STILL WORKING ON THAT?
>> I BELIEVE THAT THE REASON FOR IT BEING INCLUDED ON THE CEDS HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
NOW THEY CONTINUE TO WORK AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH SIMPLE FIBER ON IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT.
AS THE PROJECT SPONSOR, THEY'RE PROBABLY WANTING TO LEAVE THAT IN THE CEDS, PARTICULARLY GIVEN ALL THE BROADBAND MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.
>> YOU THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THE FRANK ADAMS INDUSTRIAL PARK EXPANSION ON, OR YOU THINK WE SHOULD REMOVE IT?
>> NO, I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT ON BECAUSE WHAT THAT IS GOING TO HELP IS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED FROM A PRIVATE SECTOR, THERE'S GOING TO BE CERTAIN ELEMENTS THAT THE TOWN OF FEDERALSBURG COULD THEN TAP INTO THIS BEING ON THE CEDS, SO IF THEY WANTED TO GO AFTER A GRANT.
>> UPGRADE A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OR A PUMP STATION?
>> YES. THERE'S NO VETTING FOR GETTING A PROJECT OFF.
IT'S BASED ON THE SPONSOR SAYING IT'S DONE.
WE'RE EITHER PROJECTS DONE OR IT'S NO LONGER A VALUE.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO FRONT-LOAD IT BECAUSE IT DOES GO THROUGH A VETTING SYSTEM TO GET IT ON THE DOCUMENT.
TO GET IT OFF, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COMPLETION OR THE SPONSOR SAYS, WE'RE NO LONGER GOING TO BE PURSUING THAT PROJECT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE CHOPTANK MARINA, THE DENTON INDUSTRIAL PARK, THE LIBRARY SYSTEM, THE YMCA, AND THE REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER.
>> CORRECT. WE'RE NOT REMOVING OR WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE DATA CENTER?
>> IS THAT THE ONLY THING WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE?
>> THE ALREADY TOOK OFF THE FARM OR FREEZER.
I BELIEVE YOU ALREADY TOOK IT OFF.
>> YES. THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE COUNTY SPONSORED THE TECH PARK IN ORIGINALLY, I THINK THAT WE STILL WANT TO LEAVE THAT ON UNTIL IT'S SOLD.
THE CHOPS AND COMMUNITY HEALTH.
WE THAT'S NOT OUR PROJECT BUT WE DID ASK FOR IT TO BE INCLUDED WHEN THAT IS DONE,
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WHICH IS SCHEDULED LEADER IN 24, TOTALLY 25.THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WHEN WE'RE EVALUATING THE LIST OF PROJECTS ON THE SIDES THAT WILL COME OFF IF IT'S COMPLETE.
THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S ONGOING.
>> CONNECTION TO THE NORTH COUNTING TWO OR MORE?
>> MR. PORTER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD ON THERE?
>> I DON'T. THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND]
>> THERE'S ONE PROJECT THAT'S THE EASTERN ECONOMIC DASHBOARD THROUGH THE EASTERN SHORE REGIONAL GIS CO-OPERATIVE.
THAT'S TRULY A REGIONAL PROJECT.
IT COMMITS THE COUNTY AND NO WAY.
BUT THEY JUST NEED A SPONSOR TO PUT IT INTO THE SEEDS AND IT'S HELPS AT LEAST THE MICH WAR AND THE LOWER SHORE WITH DOING SOME DASHBOARDING OF ECONOMIC DATA.
IF IT'S OKAY, I'D LIKE TO JUST SUBMIT THAT AS PROPOSAL.
WE AGAIN, NO OBLIGATION TO THE COUNTY ACTUALLY ESSENTIAL FOR GIS COOPERATIVE ONCE THEY GO AFTER A USDA GRANT AND THEY WOULD DO SO THROUGH THE MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL AND THE TRI COUNTY COUNCIL, SO IF YOU.
>> [LAUGHTER] I'M SORRY I DON'T. IT'S A WAY OF SHOWING.
>> I'VE SEEN IT WHEN THEY DID A POWERPOINT ON IT I HAVE A VERY VAGUE UNDERSTANDING OF IT, BUT IT WAS LIKE.
>> THEY'RE UPLOADING INFORMATION ON TO THE GIS WEBSITE SO YOU CAN CLICK ON IT AND GET INTERACTIVE INFORMATION. IS THAT WHAT IT IS.
>> HOW EVENT INFORMATION IS HEAVILY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ABOUT THE SECOND SLIDE THEY LOST ME ON THAT.
>> I'LL GO WITH THAT COMMISSIONER BOARD ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT?
>> I WILL PUT TOGETHER MORE FORMAL LIST OF PROJECTS WITH STRAW-MAN DESCRIPTIONS, EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD BE SUBMITTING TO MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL AND THEN SUBMITTING THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING WHICH IS NOT NEXT WEEK, BUT THE WEEK AFTER FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, IF THAT'S OKAY. IT'S AN OPEN-ENDED DISCUSSION.
>> I LEAVE THE SEAT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU EVERYBODY. [LAUGHTER]
>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE RYAN WHITE AND BRIAN NORRIS,
[6.Discussion of County Dirt Roads]
DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND OUR ROAD SUPERINTENDENT.GENTLEMEN [BACKGROUND] WHERE DO WE WANT TO START? BRIDGES THAT ARE DIRT ROADS.
>> THE MASTER EROSION HAS HANDED YOU SO.
>> WE'LL START THERE. OFF THE ORIGINAL LIST THAT WE WE BROUGHT TO, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
WE WENT AHEAD AND ORGANIZED OFF OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE BEST PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY AND I THINK SINCE THEN, THE BOARD AND FOR PUBLIC WORKS HAVE BOTH AGREED THAT NEEDS TO BE A FEW CHANGES TO START THIS THING OFF AND, MAYBE START SMALL AND SEE HOW IT GOES, SO TODAY WE'RE JUST BRINGING IN FRONT OF YOU TO SEE.
DO YOU WANT TO START AT ONE ROAD, TWO ROADS? DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THAT? WE CAN GET THIS THING, JUST BALL ROLLING THIS WINTER IF WE CAN ADJUST AS NECESSARY.
>> WELL, I THINK THERE ARE FEW ROADS LIKE ALMS HOUSE, COUNTY FARM, DEAD END.
I THINK WE JUST WANT TO TABLE THOSE FOR RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH HOUSES RESIDENCES ON THEM FOR US TO BE TOO CONCERNED WITH THEM.
I THINK THE THING I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT OR THE NUMBER OF HOUSES PER MILE, SO HOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE WE GOING TO EFFECT BY GRADING TARRING CHIP IN THESE ROADS? THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THE LARGER THE NUMBER OF RESONANCE IS, THE MORE OFTEN WE HAVE TO SCRAPE THEM.
>> NOW THERE MAY BE A FEW ROADS LIKE BACKWARD THAT ONLY HAS ONE HOUSE, BUT IT PROBABLY IT GETS A TON OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT JUMPS FROM REACHED 16 OVER FELLOWS BERG HIGHWAY.
I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE HAVE TO GO OUT DURING THE YEAR FOR MAINTENANCE, AND THEN THE OTHER BIG FACTOR THAT JUMPS OUT AT ME IS THE DISTANCE THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS TO TRAVEL TO GET TO THESE ROADS, SO IN OTHER WORDS,
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IF IT'S NEAR THE SHOP AND YOU RUN A GREATER FIVE MINUTES TO GET THERE OR IF IT'S WHAT WAS THE ONE THAT [OVERLAPPING] GOT TO DRIVE 45 MINUTES NORTH OF MARIDALE TO GET TO IT.IT TIES UP PUBLIC WORKS FOR THAT.
>> YEAH, EVEN A DIRT ROAD REALLY EVEN.
>> THERE'S ANOTHER ONE UP THERE, GOON.
>> I GOT YOU. IT'S 311 OVER TO RIVER BRIDGE.
>> RIVER BRIDGE. BUT I DON'T GET UP THAT ENDED.
>> THAT ONE THERE'S ONE THAT WE MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT, FORMER IN BOTH SIDES OF IT.
OVER THREE-QUARTERS OF THAT ROAD, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 8_10 OF THAT ROAD HE OWNS AND WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THAT BACK IF YOU DO CONSIDER THAT AND THEN JUST PUT A CALL TO SAKHALIN ON AND THEY'RE ALL STATE ROUTE.
BUT THEN AGAIN, COMMISSIONER BERG, AND YOU'VE STAYED, ONCE WE GIVE IT AWAY, WE CAN'T EVER GET IT BACK, SO IT'S JUST WHERE DO WE DRAW THAT LINE WHAT DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT?
>> THAT'S MY MAJOR CONCERN WITH CLOSING THEM, IS IF THERE IS EVER A NEED TO HAVE THAT RIGHT AWAY.
IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IT BACK FOR DEVELOPMENT OR PROPERTY ACCESS.
>> CAN WE DO STILL OWN THE PROPERTY AND CLOSURE ROUTE?
>> IT IS NOT JUST GOOD FOR AN EXAMPLE.
WE NEED 300, BUT NOW EVEN 300 YARDS, 200 YARDS DOWN THE ROAD IS ALL WE NEED TO PUT A CALL TO SACK THEIR CLOSURE.
REMAINDER OF IT PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THE DIRT.
BRAHMIN WILL HAVE SO ON AND SO ON AND IF WE EVER DO NEED A BAT, WE STILL OWN IT.
WE COULD OPEN UP AGAIN. I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME ROOMS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT THAT AVENUE AS WELL.
JUST DEAD END FOR THE TIME BEING.
>> WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
[NOISE] ON THIS LIST THAT WE WERE PROVIDED, I DID SOME QUICK MATH AND WHAT I FIGURED OUT WAS WOOLFORD IS HAS ABOUT 12.3 HOUSES PER MILE, SO THERE'S 88 HOUSES ON 0.65 MILES OF ROAD, SO I COME UP WITH ABOUT 12.31.
DANNY, YOU DOUBLE-CHECK COMING BACK THERE. ARE YOU TEXTING? [LAUGHTER] THE OTHER ONE IS MY MATH IS ALWAYS RISKY, SO THE OTHER ONE IS MITCHELL ROAD, SEVEN HOUSES ON 0.57 MILES, SO THAT'S 12.28 HOUSES PER MILE, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO DANCES ROAD, SO MITCHELL ROAD AND WOOLFORD AND THEN STEVENSON HAS SOME DIRT ROADS OUT THERE AROUND IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BENEFIT I MEAN, WE'RE RUNNING A GREATER ALL THE WAY OUT THERE TO SCRAPE THOSE OTHER ROADS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE IT AT THE TOP.
>> PROBABLY NOT. IF YOU DID THAT HUMANS WILL DO A WHOLE SESSION.
THERE'LL SPARKS AND DANNY AND THAT ONE TO THE.
>> JUST KNOCK THAT WHOLE AREA OUT.
>> ANOTHER THING WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT IS ON THIS LIST HERE IS A AMOUNT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT HITS THE ROAD AND ALSO BUS ROUTES.
NOW NO BUS ROUTES CHANGE AS TIME GOES ON.
>> BUT IT'S USUALLY PRETTY MUCH SAYING THAT.
>> BUT TRUCK TRAFFIC IS ANOTHER CONSTRUCT TRAFFIC, IT ALSO INCREASES OUR USAGE TO GO OUT AND, ADDRESS THESE ROADS BECAUSE A TRUCK ON DIRT ON A MUDDY ROAD, IT JUST KILLS IT, SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING WAS WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE FIGURE THIS OUT. WHICH POSSIBLY HELP HEAL.
>> BACK IS THE OUTLIER BECAUSE IT ONLY HAS THE ONE HOUSE ON IT, BUT IT GETS A TON OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY, BECAUSE IT'S STRAIGHT ACROSS AND REACH 16 COMING FROM DELAWARE AND A LOT OF TRUCKS GOING PETERSBERG DRIVE STRAIGHT ACROSS, AND TRAFFIC IN GENERAL.
THAT WILL BE THE ONE OUTLIER TO THE THREE THINGS THAT I'VE LAID OUT, THE THREE KEY CONTRIBUTING FACTORS THAT I'M USING.
>> QUICK MATH, YOUR TOTAL $150,000 TO TRY AND SHIP THAT RULE, GIVE OR TAKE.
HOW MANY YEARS IS GOING TO TAKE US TO GET THAT BACK OFF USING A GRADER AND MANPOWER? I GUESS WE CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR YOUR TRIED TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR YOU.
>> WHEN THE TORAH AND CHIP HOLD UP WITH THAT HEAVY TRUCK LOAD ON IT.
>> IF WE JUST PUT IT AS A NORMAL DIRT ROAD, IS IT GOING TO HOLD IT? BECAUSE ONCE WE DO IT AS I INCREASE THE SPEED YOU WANT INCREASE IN EARTH'S GOING TO TAKE MORE DAMAGE.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'M THINKING MY PRIORITIES WOULD PROBABLY BE THE TWO DENSEST POPULATED ROADS, WHICH WOULD BE WOLF AND MITCHELL.
>> START WITH THEM. DEFINITELY MY SHORT AND EIGHT THEY'RE MOST DENSE.
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>> THERE'S A LOT OF IMPACT THERE, BUT THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF WHAT.
>> IT'S ABOUT FIVE HOUSES PER MILE, SO IT'S LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT THE OTHER TWO ARE NOW.
IT'S STILL UP THERE WITH THE NEXT TIER DOWN.
IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE AS FAR AS HOUSES PER MILE WITH THE OTHER ROADS THAT WE HAVE.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S OTHER ROADS THAN THE ONES ON THIS LIST THAT MAY BE DENSER IF WE MAY HAVE A FEW OTHER ONES AROUND THE COUNTY THAT MAY HAVE MORE HOUSES ON HIM.
>> WHEN I BROKE DOWN THE DIRT ORIGINALISTS, I DID BUY PROPERTIES, I DIDN'T DO BUY HOUSES.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO EVERY ONE HOME AGAIN TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> LIKE LYNCH ROAD, IS NOT ON HERE.
>> MAYBE EIGHT HOUSEHOLD MONTREAL.
>> ROUGHLY. THAT'S ALL GOLF MY HEAD NOW, BUT I'D SAY EIGHT, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY TELL YOU THERE'S PROBABLY 20, 19 PROPERTIES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMING INTO. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO HOUSES ON, ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMUTING IT GOING EITHER HUNTING OR CAMPING OR WHEREVER THEY DO ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
>> MY CONCERN WITH MITCHELL ROAD IS IT'S BASICALLY WE HAD PEOPLE WHO CAME IN, IF YOU WILL RECALL, WHO WERE CONCERNED AND ACTUALLY ASK US FOR SIGNAGE THAT WOULD KEEP PEOPLE FROM CUTTING THROUGH THERE, WHICH I THINK STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTERED HAS STARTED TO WORK ON.
I WOULD JUST BE CAREFUL IF WE DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT BE AN EVEN MORE USED ROAD WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO FASTER THROUGH THERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MAYBE JUST DO A COUPLE OF MAYBE REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE AND ASK THEM.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS BEFORE THE OLD BOARD OR NOT, BUT I RECALL TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE COMING IN WHO WERE HAVING PEOPLE CUT THROUGH THERE FROM 404 TO TAKE THAT ROAD AND RUNNING UP IN YOUR YARD BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T MAKE THE BEND AND THAT'S LIKE EVERYTHING.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK? COMMISSIONER OR BOARD YOU THINK JUST DO WOOLFORD TO START OFF WITH? IT'S DENSE.
IT'S SHORTER SO WE CAN WORK OUT THE KINKS, THE BUGS ON THIS AND MAYBE WE SEND OUT A MAILER TO ALL THE RESIDENCES ON MITCHELL ROAD AND ASK THEM FOR THEIR FEEDBACK, A CHANCE TO COMMENT.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE. THE OTHER THING WAS AS RYAN MENTIONED, I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WITH SCHOOL BUS TRAFFIC AS WELL.
I'M NOT SAYING I WOULDN'T AGREE TO DO MITCHELL ROAD.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GET SOME FEEDBACK.
>> BOTH OF THESE ARE OUR BUS ROUTES, MITCHELL AND WOLF OR BOTH BUS ROUTES.
THEY BOTH HAVE LOW TRUCK TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THEIR RURAL NATURE.
MITCHELL'S LOW ON COMPLAINTS AND WOOLFORD IS MEDIUM.
BUT THAT MIGHT JUST BE BECAUSE WE GOT [OVERLAPPING].
>> GENEROUS PEOPLE. [LAUGHTER]
AS FAR AS TRUCKS IS USUALLY GRAIN TRUCKS AND COMBINED.
BUT I WOULD AT LEAST SINCE WE HAD PEOPLE WHO CAME IN WITH CONCERNS ABOUT MITCHELL ROAD, I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO SEE US REACH OUT AND QUESTION.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WOOLFORD.
BECAUSE THAT'S ON THE LIST AS FAR AS DENSITY IN SCHOOL BUS AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
IT'S A LONG RUN TO GET TO THE GRADER OUT THERE TOO.
>> YES, IT'S NOT FAR FROM GOOD, BUT IT'S ALL IN THE [OVERLAPPING] ON THE BLOODMEAL LAKE THERE.
>> TO COMMENT ON, MR. PORTER SAID TO JUST SAUROPODS WHERE EVERY ROAD WE'VE TOUCHED SO FAR WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, NOT THIS, BUT THE PAVING, THE TARRANT CHIP IN WITH THE FOLKS THAT YOU'LL EVERYTHING HAS INCREASED OUR SPEED LIMITS ON OUR ROAD AT LEAST 10 MILES AN HOUR, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 15 MILE AN HOUR.
EVERY TIME WE MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT, IT'S GETTING [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT SHARE BAKERS DEPARTMENT. [LAUGHTER]
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>> THE WOLF IN THE BACK WOULD PROBABLY BE TO BE SOMETHING TO START.
THEN IF YOU WANT TO DO IN THIS UP UNLIKE TRUNK LINE, THAT'S RYAN.
>> YOU GUYS ADDED JONES CORNER AND THAT LUNAR ROAD THAT WASN'T ON OUR ORIGINAL LIST AND THAT IT WAS NUMBER EIGHT. THAT'S ON IT.
IT'S GOT EIGHT PROPERTIES ON A QUARTER MILE.
EIGHT PROPERTIES NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOMES ARE ACTUALLY ON THAT ROUTE.
>> THERE'S FOUR ON THAT LITTLE PIECE OF ROAD.
>> THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE THAT FITS RIGHT IN AT 12.
>> WHICH ARE LITTLE SHORT SECTION 2, THAT WE COULD TRY.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT LOVES SHORT. RIGHT IN FRONT OF NAILS.
>> [INAUDIBLE] MOVEMENT AND TRUNK LINE. THAT'S RYAN.
COMMISSIONER PORTER. YOU GO WITH THOSE?
>> THEN SET A DUMB MITCHELL, FOUCAULT MITCHELL.
>> SEND THE LETTER OUT TO THEM.
IS BACK ROAD ONE YOU SCRAPE OFTEN BECAUSE OF TRUCK TRAFFIC?
>> TRY EVERYTHING ONCE A MONTH, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE OFTEN.
>> YOU TRY TO HIT ALL OF THEM MONTHLY?
>> WELL, WE DRIVE DOWN AT LEAST IF THEY DON'T NEED IT, WE DON'T DISTURB IT.
>> I NOTICED SOMETHING THAT'S GOT GRASS GROWING UP IN A MIDDLE OF THEM [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT ONCE YOU DISTURB IT, SOMETIMES YOU OPEN A COUNTY ONE.
YOU JUST DON'T WANT [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE'S SO MUCH TREE. WE'RE CALLING BACK ROOM EITHER.
IT SHOULD BE MUSTERED [INAUDIBLE].
>> ONE SIZE RAILWAY, THE PARALLEL INDUCE RESISTANCE WITH REHNQUIST,.
IT'S REALLY NARROWED OVER THE YEARS.
>> SINCE 16, SOME OF IT, YEAH.
THAT'S GOING TO NEED SOME WIDENING OR JUST SHOULDERS CUT IN, SPRING AND KILL THE GRASS AND PULL THE SHOULDERS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE WORK DUE TO ONCE YOU SENT MOSES THESE JUST THE FEE TRUCKS AND. [OVERLAPPING]
>> CHICKENS STROKES AND THE ACTUAL CHICKEN LIVE OLD TRUCKS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'LL START WITH THOSE TWO AND GET THE MITCHELL'S MALE OR OUT, AND THEN WE'LL SEE HOW IT GO AND WE'LL COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AND GET ANOTHER LIST. THAT SOUND ALL RIGHT?
>> THEN THE BRIDGES, SO WE'RE WAITING.
YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM MR. MOORE AT STATE HIGHWAY YET?
>> I'VE NOT. HE HAS NOT RESPOND TO MY EMAIL YET, BUT I'LL PUT YOU REACH OUT TO HIM [OVERLAPPING].
>> I ASKED HIM ABOUT ASSISTANCE WITH THE RIVER ROAD COVER PIPE.
WE'RE GOING IN EVERY DIRECTION TRYING TO FIND MONEY FOR THAT.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WERE REACHING OUT TO TRYING TO FIND MONEY FOR THAT.
>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS THE DIRT ROAD THAT GOES OUTSIDE ORIGINALLY THAT IT INTERSECTS WITH CLARK'S LANE? [OVERLAPPING] RUNS THROUGH BEHIND COW BARN?
>> YEAH, THERE'S P VON ARE OUT THERE AND THEN THERE ARE SPARKS LANE.
>> [BACKGROUND] THAT'S YEAH. IT'S 2,400 FOOT LONG. THE SHORT A HALF-MILE.
>> PEOPLE TOO OFTEN SPARKS. HERE.
>> UP A COW BARN FROM CROSS MALE.
I THINK HE'S TALKING MY SPORTS ROOT OF A CLARK LANE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHERE DEAN ROAD IS.
>> FRIENDS OF THE DEAN STEVENSON? [INAUDIBLE]
>> THEY'RE ALL OUT THERE TOGETHER, LARRY.
THERE'S A THERE'S THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT DIRT ROADS OUT THERE IN THAT ONE AREA TO THE.
WE HAVE A LOT THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE MOST OF OUR DIRT ROADS ARE.
>> WE'VE GOT THEM ALL ALTOGETHER.
THERE'S A BIG GROUP OF THEM THERE.
>> THEN WE GOT SOME ECONOMY OF SCALE IF WE TAKE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE THOUGH.
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>> WHATEVER ROAD WE'RE WORKING ON, WE'RE GOING TO START ON BLUMER.
>> YES, BLUMER. I GAVE HIM THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO GET US AT LEAST 80-20 SPLIT ON THAT, WHICH DALTON O'BRIEN, THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE AT ALL.
>> YEAH, WE'RE GOING FOR 100%, BUT EVEN DO 80-20 ON DESIGN SIDE OF OR H1 WHOLE THING RECEIVING A TON OF MONEY.
>> DID JUSTIN SAY WHY MR. MOORE WAS STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION? DID HE SAY WHY OR WHAT CRITERIA WOULD MAKE THE STRUCTURE MORE LIKELY TO GET 100% FEDERAL FUNDING? I DIDN'T GET THAT.
>> HE DIDN'T GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ON HOW, AND THAT'S WEAPON AN EMAIL TO THEM AS YOU KNOW.
THESE ARE THE ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT, CAN YOU LOOK AT THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND GET BACK TO US WHICH ONES.
HE FEELS THIS WOULD BE THE CLOSEST TO GETTING 100% FUNDING.
THEN I SAY LOST WANT, OH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON LOANS THE NEW INFORMATION.
>> THIS IS THE APPRAISALS THAT WERE DONE AS PART OF THE EXPANSION REALLY OF THE APPROACH TO THE BRIDGE ON LONG SWAMP.
THE LETTERS I HAVE DRAFTED TO SEND OUT TO THE LANDOWNERS, AND IT OCCURRED TO ME AFTER I SENT THEM OUT TO STAFF, THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IF THE COUNTY OWNS THE UNDERLYING ROAD BED, WHICH IMMEDIATELY ADJOINS THE LANDOWNERS, THAT THIS COULD BE DONE INSTEAD OF AS A SUBDIVISION, BUT AS A INSTEAD A SIMPLE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT.
I INQUIRED OF RYAN'S SHOP CONFIRMATION FOR WHO OWNS THE TITLE TOO LONG SWAMP ROAD.
AND BRIAN JUST SENT ME AN EMAIL THIS MORNING STATING THAT, [NOISE] I'M NOT SURE WHETHER YOU'VE ASCERTAINED WHO ACTUALLY IS THE UNDERLYING OWNER, BUT HE SAYS WE HAVE A RIGHT-OF-WAY OVER THE ROAD BED.
>> THAT'S ONLY ABOUT 98% OF OUR ROADS, GOING TO HAVE RIGHT AWAY.
THERE ARE SUBDIVISIONS WE'VE TAKEN OVER THE LAST 15, 16, 17 YEARS.
WE ACTUALLY, [NOISE] THE ROBOT SUIT WHERE SOMEWHERE IN THEIR HYBRID OF PROPERTY LINE RUNS IN THE CENTER OF THE ROAD.
WE HAVE A RAILWAY FROM FIRST PROPERTY.
>> WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN YEARS WHEN IT WAS HOW WE USE YOUR REVENUE? WE GOT PAID BY THE MILE.
THE MORE MILES WE HAD THE MORE MONEY, WE GOT FOR HOW I USE REVENUE.
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN MY POSITION BACK THEN IN ALL THESE COUNTIES, THEY WENT TO THE FARMERS, THEY WENT TO ANYBODY THEY COULD AND SAY, "HEY, WE'RE TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR YOU, IF YOU ALLOW US TO IF." IF IT'S A CUT THROUGH RUDE FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, AND ALL WE HAD TO DO AT THAT TIME WAS READY TO LET HER STAY HIGH WHEN YOU SAY, "HEY, ADD THIS TO OUR INVENTORY." THAT'S WHAT IT DID.
WE NEVER TOOK OVER OWNERSHIP OF IT, OF MAJORITY OF AIR ROUTES, ALL WE DID WAS ASSUMED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THEM.
THAT'S HOW A LOT IS TOOK PLACE.
THEN WHEN HOWEVER USE IT, REVENUES DROPPED OFF, WE STILL ENDED UP KEEPING THE ROAD.
NOW WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THESE ROADS WE DON'T OWN.
BUT THAT'S HOW IT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO GET MORE MILES, MORE MILES BECAUSE THE COUNTY GOT ONE MORE MONEY, MORE MONEY.
IT NEVER HAD TO GO IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT IT WAS A SIMPLE LETTER TO STATE HIGHWAY AND SAY HI, WE JUST ADDED IT DOWN, ADDED IT.
WE'RE NOT THE ONLY COUNTY. IT'S ALL OVER THE WHOLE STATE THAT WAY.
>> IT'S A RIGHT-OF-WAY EXPANSION.
[LAUGHTER] WE'RE NOT ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY THEN, RIGHT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE APPRAISAL WAS PREMISED ON ACQUIRING FEE SIMPLE TITLE, AND THAT'S THE WAY SHE DID THE OPPRESSED.
>> WE'RE DOING A LITTLE SLIVER [OVERLAPPING].
>> SILVER DOLLARS, I'M WORTH $100.
>> WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION THEN? [LAUGHTER]
>> IT DON'T JUST CHANGE SOME OF THE WORDING OF THE LETTERS TO THE LANDOWNERS.
WHAT I'LL NEED IS TO GET SOME DOCUMENTATION OF TITLE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT CAN'T JUST BE RUMOR AND HISTORY, ANECDOTE THAT WE DON'T OWN IT.
I NEED TO HAVE A TITLE SEARCH DONE, WHETHER YOU ALL HAVE GOT A HEAD START ON THAT OR NOT.
JUST MAKE SURE OF WHAT THE UNDERLYING FACTS ARE AND THEN JUST ADJUST THE LETTER SAYING THAT WE WOULD SIMPLY WANT TO EXPAND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BY THIS LITTLE SLIVER,
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AND HERE'S MONEY FOR IT.>> ARE THE LANDOWNERS PAYING TAXES ON THE ACREAGE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THEN?
>> [INAUDIBLE] WE'VE GOT TO CHECK THE STATE ROAD ON HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THE [INAUDIBLE] ASSESSMENT.
>> THE PROPERTY LINES AREN'T OUT IN THE CENTER OF THE ROAD THOUGH, RIGHT?
>> SOME OF THEM ARE CENTERED RIGHT HERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MOST OF THE TIME, YOU'RE SAYING 90% OF OUR ROADS OR THAT WAY.
>> THEY'LL ONLY [OVERLAPPING] THE LARGER THAT WE TOOK OVER FROM STATE HIGHWAY PROBABLY ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT AREN'T.
>> AND THE NEWER DEVELOPMENTS.
>> BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE OLD WAY, WHICH IS A RIGHT-OF-WAY.
MOST OF THEM ARE ONLY 30 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
>> SOME OVER 40, SOME OVER 50.
>> WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY SUB-DIVIDE OFF A LOT, SOMEBODY HAS A 200 ACRE FARM.
THEY TAKE TWO ACRES OFF AND WE MAKE THEM INCREASE THE WIDTH OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
>> ARE WE STICKING TO THE THE RIGHT OF WAY? WE'RE JUST WIDENING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, OR ARE WE ACTUALLY BEING DATED THE ADDITIONAL PORTION OF THE EXPANDED RIGHT OF WAY? HOW IS THAT WORKING? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? [OVERLAPPING] I KNOW ONE IS ON ANDREW ROAD WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE JUMPS BACK.
>> YEAH. I THINK IT WAS GRANTED TO US.
>> IT'S JUST A RIGHT-OF-WAY EXPANSE?
>> I THINK WHEN WE DID THE SAME THING WITH MONEY, SO THE VALLECULA EXAMPLE, THEY'RE GIVING [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE] FOR 55 FOOT, WHATEVER IS REQUIRED.
THEY'RE MADE TO PROVE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY WE HAVE, SO YOU HAVE TO GET THE ADDITIONAL 510 OR OVERBOARD.
>> OKAY, SO THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THAT AS A TEMPLATE FOR EXPANDING THIS RIGHT AWAY, OR IS THIS TOTALLY DIFFERENT?
>> IT'LL BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM IF THERE'S COOPERATION ON THE PART OF THE LANDOWNERS.
>> EVERYTHING'S CONFUSING. [LAUGHTER].
>> COMPENSATION IS STILL IN ORDER?
>> YES. OTHERWISE, YOU'RE IN A POSITION OF TRYING TO, WELL, I'LL LEAVE WANT TO GO INTO IT ON IN OPEN MEETING LIKE THIS.
>> OKAY. [NOISE] SO OTHER BRIDGES, IF WE CAN GET 100% FUNDING, ARE WE INTERESTED IN HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT REOPENING SOME OF THE OLDER BRIDGES THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED?
>> BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE AROUND THERE, BUT WE SHOULD.
>> SO WHILE WE'RE SENDING OUT LETTERS, SHOULD WE SEND OUT LETTERS TO THE PEOPLE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON RIVER ROAD TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON POTENTIALLY REOPENING THAT BRIDGE?
>> COMMERCIAL REPORTER YOU KNOW, MORE OF THAT BACK HISTORY THAT OCCURRED THERE.
>> YEAH I THINK THAT BEFORE WE THINK ABOUT REOPENING BRIDGES, WE SHOULD AGAIN AS COMMISSIONER BAR SAID, WE NEED TO REACH OUT.
I KNOW ON RIVER ROAD, WE'RE STILL WORKING AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE ON THE REQUESTS FROM MR. BEATTY.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHEN JUDGE PRICE WAS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
I RECALL THAT WE HAD SOME PEOPLE COME IN WHO WERE WALKING THEIR DOGS AND THEY DIDN'T WANT THE BRIDGE.
WELL, ON THAT ONE, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO REACH OUT AND FIND OUT WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS AND WHO WANTS THAT BRIDGE OPEN.
>>SO WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY IT.
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I DON'T THINK ANYBODY MISSES THAT BRIDGE BEING CLOSED FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT?>> NO, BUT WHERE I'M COMING FROM WITH THE RIVER ROAD IS THE PROXIMITY TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE WATERFRONT AND THE POTENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH OUT THERE, IT MAKES SENSE.
IT'S CLOSE TO OUR GIRTH AREA IN THE COUNTY.
IT IS WATERFRONT PROPERTY WITH HIGHER POTENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES, AND IT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT ROAD RIGHT IN THE CENTER.
IT IS IN THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY AS WELL.
IF WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT OPENING ONE, I THINK THAT ONE MAKES SENSE TO TALK ABOUT OPENING.
BUT, WE SHOULD SEND OUT A LETTER AND SEE WHAT KIND OF PUSH BACK WILL GET FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS OUT THERE.
>> THE OTHER CLOSED BRIDGES, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
THE OTHER CLOSED BRIDGES IS POPLAR NECK THAT THE COUNTY HAS?
>>THERE'S ONE RESIDENT ON THAT ROAD.
I CAN TELL YOU HE DOES NOT WANT IT TO OPEN.
THE COUNTY OWNS THE OTHER SIDE AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE IS WHAT? A COUPLE OF FARMS.
>> YEAH. SO IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING ON POPLAR NECK AND TRUTHFULLY I'M NOT SURE IF ITS THAT MUCH OF A SHORTCUT.
BUT, WE CAN DO THE SAME THING, SEND LETTERS OUT TO THE RESIDENTS THERE AS WELL.
>> LET'S GET BLUMER IN THE WORKS AND SEE HOW RIVER GOES.
I THINK BACK LANDING PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE.
>> I KNOW THE AGREEMENT WITH DORCHESTER, BUT I THINK IT BENEFITS THE TOWN OF PRESTON MORE TO HAVE BACK LANDING ROAD OPEN THEN POPLAR NECK.
EVEN THOUGH IT DOES GO INTO DORCHESTER, A LOT OF DORCHESTER RESIDENTS WOULD USE THAT TO COME THE PRESTON TO THE STORE AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
>> IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH RIVER OR AFTER RIVER ROAD, IT SHOULD BE BACK LANDING, IT SHOULD BE THE NEXT ONE THAT WE CONSIDER REOPENING.
>> THAT'S WHAT MY OPINION [INAUDIBLE]
>> GREG ROAD IT'S ON THE LIST AS WELL AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS COMES BACK FOR GREG.
IT'S A CURRENT ACTIVE ROAD, AND WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS THEY COME BACK FROM STATE HIGHWAY.
>> IF WE CAN GET 100% FUNDING THEN FIX IT.
>> IF IT'S 80, 20, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO CLOSE IT.
BUT YOU SAID THERE WAS QUITE A FEW PROPERTY OWNERS ON THAT ROAD? 10? I THINK HE TOLD ME.
>> TWENTY-TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS ON GREG ROAD, ONLY ONE RESIDENCE.
>> BUT THAT'S ALL OF GREG THOUGH, THAT'S BOTH SIDES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] SO IT'S STILL ONLY ONE LIVABLE HOUSE ON THE DIRT PART? YES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WELL, YOU GUYS WILL COMPILE ANY RESPONSES YOU GET FROM THOSE LETTERS AND GET IT TO US SO WE CAN SEE IF WE'RE GOING TO GET PRAISED OR IF WE'RE STEPPING INTO A HORNETS NEST.
>> WOULD LIKE TO GET INPUT FROM THE BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR THE RIVER ROAD BRIDGE?
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET INPUT FROM THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON RIVER ROAD BRIDGE? SINCE IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THEIR BACKYARD.
>> YEAH, WE CAN ASK SEE IF IT WOULD HELP WITH THE BUS ROUTE OR SOMETHING?
>> RYAN AND BRIAN, DO YOU IN YOUR SHOP BY ANY CHANCE HAVE AN ARCHIVE OF ANY DOCUMENTS FARMERS OR LANDOWNERS SIGNED, GRANTING THE COUNTY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO USE THE ROAD BED?
>> FOR LONG SWAMP OR ANYWHERE ELSE?
>> WELL, I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME UP AGAIN.
>> WE HAVE VERY HIT OR MISS FILES.
>> TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WERE THEY EVER RECORDED OR WAS IT SOMETHING THAT WAS SIMPLY SHOVED IN A FILE CABINET AND THEY TELL THE STATE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS ROAD.
>> I DON'T THINK EVERYTHING FOR THE ROAD BUT ITSELF, JUST ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY.
>> THERE MAY BE THERE MAY BE AGREEMENTS BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT RECORDED AGREEMENTS.
>> YEAH, THEY'RE PROBABLY JUST HANDWRITTEN FROM THE DIRECTOR TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, THOSE SIGNATURES.
>> I HATE TO ASK YOU GUYS TO GO THROUGH THAT, BUT CAN YOU TRY TO FIND ALL OF THEM THAT YOU'VE GOT?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK, BUT ITS IMPORTANT.
>> THERE ARE SOME ROADS RECORDS IN THE [INAUDIBLE] DEPARTMENT, BUT WE AT LEAST NEED TO PUT THEM ALL IN THE SAME PLACE SO WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
>> WE'LL DO OUR BEST. [LAUGHTER].
[01:20:02]
>> COMMISSIONER PORTER, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD?
>> WE CAN. CAN WE TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS HERE? BACK ON. GOING TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
[7.Caroline County Board of Health Update]
NEXT UP, WE HAVE ROBIN CAHALL, OUR HEALTH OFFICER FOR CAROLINE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.[01:25:02]
>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. I HAVE WITH ME OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DIRECTOR, JESSICA TOOL, JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDE FOR YOU TODAY.
THE BOARD OF HEALTH, I THINK YOU HAVE TO [OVERLAPPING].
YES, WE HAVE SOME FORMAL SITUATION.
YOU GUYS HAVE TO GO INTO SESSION.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE GOING TO SIT AS THE BOARD OF HEALTH.
>> WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE.
>> SURE. JUST LIKE [INAUDIBLE] WAIT A SECOND.
>> [OVERLAPPING] GOOD. COMMISSIONER PORTER, YOU KNOW THE SEQUENCE HERE.
>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY [OVERLAPPING] AYE.
>> THAT WAS UNANIMOUS [LAUGHTER].
>> MY PERFORMANCE EVALUATION NEEDS TO REFLECT THAT [LAUGHTER] WITH THE STATE.
THIS IS OUR BI-ANNUAL BOARD OF HEALTH UPDATE.
I'M GOING TO PROVIDE JUST SOME OVERVIEW OF SOME VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS. DEFINITELY DOES NOT ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
THE FIRST THING THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE WITH YOU GUYS ON HIS STAFFING FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 81 ACTIVE STAFF MEMBERS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DROP FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
WE DID SOME RESTRUCTURING OF SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS AND WHAT OUR STAFFING NEEDS ACTUALLY WERE.
WE HAVE 15 OPEN POSITIONS THAT WERE RECRUITING FOR.
OVER THE LAST YEAR WE'VE HAD 12 NEW HIRES, AND WE'VE ALSO COMPLETED NINE JOB RE-CLASSIFICATIONS.
OUR STAFFING STRATEGIES, WE'VE ADDED SOME TEMP AGENCY, AVAILABILITY, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK ON QUALITY IMPROVEMENT IN REGARDS TO RETENTION THROUGH A CDC INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS THAT WILL HAVE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT GRANT FUNDING IS FOR OUR CURRENT STAFF.
WE'RE PROVIDING FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR THEM, ALSO FOR THEIR LICENSE RENEWAL FEES.
WE'RE PROVIDING THAT FUNDING IN THAT SENSE AS WELL.
IT'S REIMBURSEMENT ON THAT CASE.
THAT'S MOVING ALONG PRETTY WELL.
WE JUST STARTED THAT AND WE GOT THE MONEY IN DECEMBER, I THINK.
JUST RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST MONTH, WE APPROVED OUR POLICY.
I'VE ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON FOUR REIMBURSEMENTS.
I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.
OUR RECRUITMENT STRATEGIES INCLUDE ANYTIME WE HAVE A JOB RECRUITMENT COME OUT, WE'RE PLACING IT ON THE CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE JOB BOARD, WHICH SHARES WITH DSS.
ALSO THROUGH MAKO, CAROLINE COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES AND THEN OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.
ONE OF THE NEW OR ONE OF THE MOST RECENT ITEMS IS THAT OUR ONE FULL-TIME HUMAN RESOURCE STAFF PERSON RETIRED AT THE END OF JUNE.
WE'RE WORKING WITH ONE PART-TIME HUMAN RESOURCE STAFF.
WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING FOR HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICER 1, WHICH MDH APPROVED THAT NEW POSITION FOR US.
WE MADE AN OFFER YESTERDAY ACTUALLY, SO WE'RE JUST WAITING.
WE'RE HOPING WITHIN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE IN THERE, BUT THINGS ARE MOVING REALLY WELL CONSIDERING THE FACT WE'RE WORKING WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S A PART-TIME PERSON, AND THINGS ALSO SEEM TO BE IMPROVING AT THE STATE LEVEL WHEN IT COMES TO HUMAN RESOURCES.
I KNOW THAT THE NEW ADMINISTRATION MADE THAT A PRIORITY AND THINGS DO SEEM TO BE MOVING A LITTLE SMOOTHER THERE.
FUNDING. I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO CORE FUNDING AND HOW THAT WORKS AND THE EXACT FUNDING FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND WHERE SOME OF THAT COMES FROM.
BECAUSE I THINK OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CORE FUNDING, AND OF COURSE, BUDGET TIME WILL COME AROUND MARCH, WE'LL BE PUTTING IN A BUDGET REQUEST AGAIN.
FOR FY23, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, OUR GRANT FUNDING WAS APPROXIMATELY 6.9 MILLION, WITH STATE AND LOCAL BEING 1.6 MILLION, FOR A TOTAL OF 8.5 MILLION.
NOW, THE COUNTY MATCH LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS OUR BUDGET REQUESTS, WHICH WAS APPROVED, WAS 409,054, WHICH WAS LESS THAN 5% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND FOR FY24 AND APPROVED BUDGETS,
[01:30:02]
RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT, WE HAVE $5.4 MILLION IN GRANT.STATE AND LOCAL, WE HAVE $3.1 MILLION, AND THEN OUR TOTAL FUNDING OF 8.5.
WE JUST SUBMITTED ONE NEW GRANT FOR ACTUALLY ALMOST 400,000 I THINK.
WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS OR A LITTLE OVER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE APPLYING FOR FOR SOME DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THE COUNTY MATCH FOR FY24 IS A LITTLE OVER 589,000, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 7% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME DETAILS ABOUT COUNTY MATCH AND THE CORE FUNDING PROCESS.
NDHS MATCH WHICH IS THEIR PERCENTAGE MATCH FOR THE STATE, IS AT 78.7956% OF OUR BASELINE, AND THE BASELINE IS GENERALLY TAKEN FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
THE COUNTY PERCENTAGE IS 21.2044%.
NOW, THESE PERCENTAGES, THEY'RE BASED ON A WEALTH INDEX AND THAT PERCENTAGE HAS NOT BEEN ADJUSTED SINCE 1996.
MACHO WHICH IS THE MARYLAND ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY HEALTH OFFICERS, OUR GROUP HAS PUT TOGETHER AN AD HOC REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WE'RE WORKING TO REVIEW THE PROCESS FOR THAT MATCH AND WHETHER OR NOT THOSE THINGS NEED TO CHANGE.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
BUT OUR FY24, WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR BUDGET SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF COLA'S AND INCREMENTS FOR ALL STATE EMPLOYEES.
THEN FY24 ALSO HAD A 4.5% COLA ADJUSTMENT, WHICH THE TOTAL THAT YOU'RE FACING YOUR MATCH OFF OF IS ALMOST $1.3 MILLION.
THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS GIVES YOU THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT CORE FUNDING CAN BE UTILIZED FOR.
NUMBER 7, NUMBER 8, AND NUMBER 9.
ACTUALLY NUMBER 7 AND NUMBER 8 WERE ADDED IN 2022.
ESSENTIALLY, THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING THAT THE COUNTY THAT WE SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR TO THE COUNTY GOES TOWARDS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
OUR 2023 INITIATIVES, I JUST WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE, FROM THE LAST MEETING OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAM MOVE TO DENTON PLAZA THAT IS COMPLETE.
WE ACTUALLY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN JULY.
WE CONTINUE WITH OUR ASSESSMENT OF POLICY AND PROCEDURES WITHIN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S MOVING TOWARDS PUBLIC HEALTH ACCREDITATION.
WE'RE IN PHASE 2 OF THAT RIGHT NOW, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS BECAUSE THERE WAS LOTS OF THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.
OUR SECOND MOBILE TREATMENT UNIT IS COMPLETE AND THEN WORKS.
WE ACTUALLY HAD THE UNVEILING A FEW MONTHS AGO, OUR TRANSITIONING TO COVID-19 RESPONSE EFFORTS, WE'RE TRANSITIONING IT FROM AN ACTUAL PROJECT ALL ON ITS OWN TO MOVING IT RIGHT INTO OUR COMMUNICABLE DISEASE EFFORTS AND THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
ALL OF OUR MANAGEMENT OF THAT IS WITHIN OUR COMMUNICABLE DISEASE TEAM.
AGAIN, OUR WORK TOWARDS NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH ACCREDITATION, IT'S IN PROGRESS THAT PHASE 2 OF THOSE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, AS PART OF THAT.
WE'RE WORKING ON EXPANDING OUR CHRONIC DISEASE PREVENTION THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT INITIATIVES AND THEN OUR STAFF TRAINING, IT'S CONTINUED.
THAT'S THE UPDATE ON OUR 2023 INITIATIVES.
I WANTED TO GIVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR NEWEST PARTNERSHIPS.
WE HAVE OUR CAROLINE COUNTY COLLECTIVE IMPACT WHICH IS ONGOING.
WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT PARTICIPATE IN DIFFERENT ACTION TEAMS FOR COLLECTIVE IMPACT.
THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR US IN A SENSE OF COLLABORATING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND LEADERS TO GET SOME THINGS DONE.
MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT COMING MONTHS, I'M SURE AND THAT'S OUR PARTNERS, OUR BLS COMMITTEE FOR CAROLINE COUNTY AND SHORT HEALTH.
WE TOOK PART IN THE ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE BY TETRA TECH.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW TO DISCUSS SOME FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT AND SOME STRUCTURE.
OUR COORDINATED COMMUNITY SUPPORTS, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN SHOP TANK COMMUNITY HEALTH.
[01:35:03]
THIS WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME TO US TO EXPAND OUR SCHOOL-BASED MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND THIS WOULD NOT JUST BE IN THE SCHOOLS.THIS WOULD INCLUDE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, WRAP-AROUND SUPPORT.
WE APPLIED FOR, LIKE I SAID, ALMOST $400,000 FOR AN 18 MONTH PERIOD AND IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE'RE EXPANDING ON THE SERVICES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WE CURRENTLY KNOW.
THE RESOURCE DIRECTORY PROJECT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES COUNCIL AND CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY.
THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROVIDED FUNDING THROUGH A DISPARITIES GRANTS TO LOOK AT THE WEB-PAGE THAT WE HAVE THAT'S LOCAL CALLED MY FAMILY NEEDS AND HOW WE CAN UPDATE THAT AS A ONE-STOP SHOP AND TO COLLABORATE WITH MARYLAND 211.
OUR MOBILE WELLNESS ARE COMMUNICABLE DISEASE TEAM.
THEY'RE WORKING VERY HARD OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO PULL TOGETHER NEW PARTNERSHIPS AND TO MAINTAIN OUR ONGOING PARTNERSHIPS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS OCCURRING THIS WEEKEND, WHICH IS SATURDAY AT GOALS, WILL VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, THERE'LL BE A COMMUNITY BABY SHOWER WHICH IS OPEN TO ALL CAROLINE COUNTY NEW MOTHERS OF CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF TWO OR SOMEONE EXPECTING, SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
CAROLINE GOES PURPLE, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH MICHIGAN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND THE LDAC, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA ABOUT THE TRANSFER THE FUNDS TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE THAT.
THEN OUR MTU AND MEDICATION FOR OPIOID USE DISORDER, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND, CAROLINE COUNTY DETENTION CENTER AND THE PROBLEM-SOLVING COURT IS ONGOING, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE TOO.
COMMUNICABLE DISEASE, FAMILY PLANNING, AND WOMEN AND CHILD HEALTH DIVISION.
DEFINITELY IS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE INDICATORS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MONITORING AND YOU'LL SEE THIS AGAIN IN OUR SPRING PRESENTATION.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MEASURE THESE THINGS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE OUR TB TESTS PERFORMED 180, IDENTIFY LATENT TUBERCULOSIS INFECTION, 38 INDIVIDUALS TREATED, 28 AND YOU MAY ASK WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO THERE? THE DIFFERENCE IS IS THAT ON OCCASION, PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER OUTSIDE OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THEY CAN PROVIDE TREATMENT AND THAT WORKS.
WE HAVE 531, RN OFFICE VISITS AND THIS IS FOR FY23, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
RN VISITS A LITTLE OVER 1,200, UNDUPLICATED FAMILY PLANNING CLIENTS SERVED 324.
CLIENTS PRESCRIBING DISTRIBUTED BIRTH CONTROL TO 99 AND UNDUPLICATED BABIES BORN HEALTHY CLIENTS 67.
THAT BABY IS BORN HEALTHY PROGRAM.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF OUR PRENATAL WORK AND REFERRALS TO CHOP TANK COMMUNITY HEALTH.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A NEW PROVIDER THAT CAME ON BOARD, I THINK LAST MONTH IN DENTON.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PRIORITIES. IN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON OUR DELEGATION AGREEMENTS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL HOPEFULLY HEAR ABOUT WITHIN THE NEXT COMING WEEKS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD TWO WEEKS FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, SO I DON'T KNOW.
ANYWAY, STREAMLINING OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE AND ACCESS, CONTINUED QUALITY IMPROVEMENT INITIATIVES.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO LOOK AT OUR PROCESSES AND HOW THINGS CAN BE IMPROVED.
OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR IS ACTUALLY ON THE MARYLAND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR BOARD AND THOSE MEETINGS ARE MONTHLY, THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE FOR US.
I PARTICIPATE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH LIAISON COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THROUGH MHO, AND IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH MDE.
PARTICIPATION ON BOTH OF THOSE COMMITTEES HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD. BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROGRAMS WITHIN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
OUR TOTAL VISITS, AND THIS IS WHAT I REPORTED AT THE LAST MEETING, I REPORTED THE SAME TOTALS AND I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE SHIFT AND HOW THESE THINGS ARE BEING DONE.
BUPRENORPHINE. WE'VE SEEN A 37% DECREASE IN THE TOTAL VISITS AND THEN OUR CARE COORDINATION, WE'VE SEEN AN 84% INCREASE.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT OUR CARE COORDINATION AND OUR MAINTENANCE,
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YOU CAN SEE IT HAS 12% INCREASE.THAT DATA INDICATES THAT OUR CLIENTS ARE SHIFTING FROM ACTIVE TREATMENT TO MAINTENANCE AND THEY'RE ALSO SHIFTING TO DISCHARGE.
THIS IS DEFINITELY SHOWING IMPROVEMENT IN OUR TREATMENT.
YOU CAN SEE OUR MTU HAS A 60% DECREASE BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD ON DISCHARGING AND PUTTING OUR CLIENTS INTO MAINTENANCE WHEN IT'S NEEDED OR WHEN THEY'RE READY.
>> THAT'S THE MOBILE TREATMENT UNIT?
>> YES, THAT IS OUR MOBILE TREATMENT UNIT.
THEN ON SUBSTANCE USE, WE'VE SEEN A 15% INCREASE AND CERTAINLY SOME OF THAT AND THE CARE COORDINATION HAS TO DO WITH OUR DETENTION CENTER EFFORTS AS WELL.
THIS IS LOOKING GOOD. THIS IS A GOOD MODEL.
>> WHAT'S THE SUBSTANCE USE NUMBER? THAT'S THE NUMBER OF WHAT? PEOPLE?
IT CAN BE ONE PERSON RECEIVING ONE VISIT A MONTH FOR 12 MONTHS.
WE HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE UNDUPLICATED CLIENTS, WHICH I CAN PROVIDE THAT THE NEXT TIME, BUT THE TOTAL VISITS IS DEFINITELY AN INDICATOR OF HOW THINGS ARE SHIFTING.
>> THAT INCLUDES TO DUI EDUCATION, THAT INCLUDES REGULAR OR LEVEL 1 OUTPATIENT TREATMENT THAT INCLUDES A BROAD SPECTRUM OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED ON SPECIFICALLY ON THE MOBILE TREATMENT UNIT OR MAINTENANCE POPULATION, IF THAT MAKE SENSE.
THERE'S THE ONES THAT ARE IN TREATMENT THAT MAY NOT BE PRESCRIBED MEDICATION.
WE HAVE THAT PROGRAM WHICH SOMETIMES THIS COURT ORDERED. THAT INCLUDES THAT.
>> WE HAD A SPANISH SPEAKING IN ENGLISH SPEAKING IN DUI COURSE.
>> THE BUPRENORPHINE, SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT IS?
>> THAT'S THE MEDICATION USED FOR MANAGEMENT OF OPIOID USE DISORDER.
>> INSTEAD OF BEING ALIEN TO YOU, THEY COME TO THE CLINIC.
>> THOSE ARE VISITS AS WELL? THESE ARE ALL VISITS?
>> IT MAYBE ONE PERSON RECEIVING MULTIPLE?
>> YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THOSE TOTALS? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO IN THE SPRING MDH, WE HAVE A SYSTEM CALLED CRISP AND THAT SYSTEM IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORDS, THAT INFORMATION IS REPORTED TO CRISP.
IT'S OUR HEALTH INFORMATION SYSTEM FOR THE STATE OF MARYLAND.
THEY CAME UP WITH SOME NEW INFORMATION THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PULL.
THERE IS A PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION.
OH GOSH, WHAT IS THAT? IT'S PMDP, PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION DRUG.
>> OH GOSH. YES. PROGRAM. [LAUGHTER] WHAT HAPPENS IS ANY PRESCRIBING PHYSICIAN OR ANY PRESCRIBING ORGANIZATION, WHEN THEY PRESCRIBE AND THE PERSON GOES TO THE PHARMACY TO FILL THE PRESCRIPTION, THIS DATA COMES INTO THE CRISP SYSTEM.
WE NOW HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO SEE CERTAIN INDICATORS.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BREAK IT DOWN AS TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PROVIDERS, BUT DEFINITELY BY ZIP CODE.
THIS WAS SOME INTERESTING INFORMATION THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED.
I GET A WEEKLY DRUG INTOXICATION DEATH REPORT WHICH SHOWS FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THIS YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR AND THEN FOR THE PREVIOUS WEEK.
REPORTED DRUG INTOXICATION DEATHS AND CAROLINE COUNTY, WE LOOKED AT CALENDAR YEAR 22, AND CALENDAR YEAR 23 TO DATE.
THERE WAS A 13% INCREASE OF DRUG INTOXICATION DEATHS IN CAROLINE COUNTY.
I'M NOT GIVING SPECIFIC NUMBERS BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANOTHER PROGRAM, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE SPECIFIC NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE SO SMALL THAT THE SMALL NUMBER HAS THE POTENTIAL TO IDENTIFY.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES.
THE OTHER INFORMATION WE HAVE IS THE NUMBER OF DEATHS ACCOUNTED FOR TO CAROLINE COUNTY RESIDENTS.
WHAT THAT INDICATED WAS THAT THERE'S NO REAL CHANGE TO
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THE INDIVIDUALS WHO PASSED HERE AND HAD A ZIP CODE WITHIN CAROLINE COUNTY, THERE'S NO REAL CHANGE IN THAT PERCENTAGE.THE NUMBER OF DEATHS INVOLVING OPIOIDS, THERE WAS A 2% DECREASE.
NUMBER OF DEATHS INVOLVING FENTANYL, THERE'S A 3% DECREASE OVERALL.
WHAT THAT SAYS IS THAT IT WAS OTHER CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE THAT'S CAUSING THE INCREASE.
THEN VERY INTERESTING FACTORS.
THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS WITH A CAROLINE COUNTY ZIP CODE FILLING OPIOID CONTAINING PRESCRIPTIONS, AND THIS COULD BE ANYWHERE IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND, BUT THEIR HOME ADDRESS HAS A ZIP CODE OF CAROLINE COUNTY, THERE'S A 26% DECREASE IN THAT.
THE NUMBER OF PROVIDERS WITH A CAROLINE COUNTY ZIP CODE FILLING OPIOID CONTAINING PRESCRIPTIONS, THERE WAS A 15% INCREASE.
WHAT THAT SAYS IS THAT A PROVIDER WHO HAS A LOCATION WITH A ZIP CODE, CAROLINE COUNTY AND OPIOID CONTAINING PRESCRIPTION, SO THERE'S A 15% INCREASE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT SOME OF THE EDUCATION THAT WE'RE DOING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE FILLING OF THE OPIOID CONTAINING PRESCRIPTION.
>> THERE ARE MORE PHARMACIES IN THE COUNTY?
>> WELL, NO. IT'S WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT PROVIDERS WITH CAROLINE COUNTY ZIP CODE FILLING OPIOID CONTAINING PRESCRIPTIONS.
I WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT ONE BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT FILLING.
I NEED TO DEFINE THAT FOR YOU.
[OVERLAPPING] IF IT'S A PRESCRIBING OR ITS ACTUAL PHARMACY FILLING THE PRESCRIPTION.
>> ESSENTIALLY THE MEDICAL PROVIDERS IN THE COUNTY OR ISSUING 15% MORE PRESCRIPTIONS.
THERE'S A DECREASE IN THEM BEING FILLED?
>> NO, THERE'S A DECREASE IN THE PATIENTS WITH CAROLINE COUNTY ZIP CODES FILLING PRESCRIPTIONS.
YOU CAN HAVE A PATIENT WITH A CAROLINE COUNTY ZIP CODE GOING TO, LET'S SAY EASTON, FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
THEY GET A PRESCRIPTION FOR AN OPIOID CONTAINING PRESCRIPTION, THEY CAN FILL IT ANYWHERE IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND AND THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR HERE AS THEM GETTING IT.
WHAT THIS IS REALLY SAYING IS THAT PROVIDERS WITH A CAROLINE COUNTY ZIP CODE FILLING OPIOID CONTAINING PRESCRIPTIONS IS THAT SOMEBODY'S COMING [OVERLAPPING] THAT ARE NOT CAROLINE COUNTY RESIDENTS. IT'S INTERESTING.
>> BUT THE DECREASE, I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND A 26% DECREASE.
IF I GOT MY WISDOM TEETH TAKEN OUT AND I GOT PRESCRIBED, AN OPIOID FOR PAIN AT AND I DECIDED NOT TO FILL IT.
IF I DECIDED TO DO IT WITH IBUPROFEN.
>> IT WOULD NOT BE COUNTED BECAUSE YOU NEVER FILLED A PRESCRIPTION.
>> OKAY. IS THAT WHAT THIS IS SHOWING THAT PEOPLE ARE OPTING NOT TO GET THOSE PRESCRIPTIONS FILLED?
>> YEAH, IT COULD VERY WELL BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU ARE SAYING, "LOOK, I DON'T WANT TO RISK GETTING ADDICTED, SO I'M JUST GOING TO MANAGE IT WITH TYLENOL OR IBUPROFEN OR WHATEVER".
LIKE I SAID, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PULLING OUT OF THERE, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT THIS IS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION.
DIGGING A LITTLE DEEPER TO ANSWER THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS AND THIS IS NEW INFORMATION THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE JUST DID IT WITH OUR SON.
HE GOT HIS WISDOM TEETH OUT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO FILL THOSE PRESCRIPTION?
>> HE DID IT WITH IBUPROFEN, SO I DON'T KNOW.
IF THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THESE NUMBERS.
>> IS GREAT THING, AND THAT'S THE REASON.
>> WHAT DO YOU SEE AN INCREASE WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND GETTING PRESCRIPTIONS, THAT ARE COMING INTO THE COUNTY?
>> THERE FILLING THE OPIOID CONTAINING PRESCRIPTION?
>> I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A COMBINATION OF ALL OF IT.
>> YEAH. BECAUSE AGAIN, REMEMBER WE'RE DEALING WITH SMALL NUMBERS.
>> THE PMDP THAT PROGRAM THE REQUIREMENT FOR IT.
I THINK WENT INTO THE REQUIREMENT FOR A PROVIDER OR FOR A PHARMACY TO REPORT THAT INFORMATION IS FAIRLY NO JOKE.
>>THE REPORTED DRUG INTOXICATION DESK IN THE COUNTY, 13% INCREASE?
>> THEY MAY NOT BE ALL CAROLINE COUNTY CITIZENS.
>> YEAH, AND THEY'RE NOT. THERE'S NO REAL CHANGE.
THE SMALL NUMBER OF INCREASE THAT WE SAW.
>> THEY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR RECOVERY.
PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE ACCOUNTING, BRINGING PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY HERE FOR RECOVERY?
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>> NO, I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
BECAUSE THESE WERE ADDRESSES AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT WE LOOK AT, IS THE ADDRESS AND IT'S NOT.
>> NO BODY MAYBE FROM TALBOT COUNTY, THEY CAME OVER HERE FOR SOMETHING?
>> YES. OR THEY'RE VISITING OR OR WHATEVER.
WE GOT THE ADDRESS INFORMATION AS WELL SO WE HAVE AN INTERNAL [NOISE] FATALITY REVIEW TEAM THAT LOOKS AT THAT INFORMATION, AND THEY KNOW THE RED FLAGS TO LOOK FOR.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN ONE OF THE INDICATORS THAT HAS COME UP.
>> THE 13% INCREASE, THAT'S YEAR-TO-DATE?
>> THE 13% INCREASE? YES. IS YEAR-TO-DATE.
>> HOW MANY TOTAL DID WE HAVE LAST YEAR?
>> SHE SAYS YOU'RE WAITING [OVERLAPPING]
>> I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT. I CAN'T, IT'S SO SMALL THAT THERE'S A THRESHOLD THAT YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IF IT'S UNDER A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT IF IT'S UNDER 11, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE NUMBER.
>> IT ONLY TAKES LIKE IF YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T TAKE THEM [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE NUMBER OFF [OVERLAPPING] BY THAT MUCH?
>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU REALLY CAN'T LOOK TOO MUCH INTO IT? [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T MEAN THAT.
>> YOU'RE CORRECT. THE 13% LIKE [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S A DEBT SO YOU GOT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT SETS OF NUMBERS.
>> IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET A GRIP ON THAT.
>> ROBIN, DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THE NUMBER OF DEATHS INCLUDES A NON-RESIDENT DRUNK DRIVER KILLED IN AN ACCIDENT ON THE HIGHWAY, IS HE COUNTED AS ONE OF THE INTOXICATION?
>> YES. WHEN WE SAY, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT GROUPINGS.
THERE'S OPIOID, THERE'S FENTANYL, THERE'S HEROIN, THERE'S COCAINE, AND THEN THERE'S, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW THEY IT'S LIKE A NON STIMULANT WHICH WOULD INDICATE SOME LIKE ALCOHOL AT THAT COULD BE ONE.
THAT COULD MOST DEFINITELY BE AN INDICATION.
SOMEONE DIES OF ALCOHOL POISONING.
THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE INCREASES IN THAT.
IT'S NOT COMPLETELY SURROUNDED JUST BY OPIOID SITUATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE? AGAIN, VERY PRELIMINARY INFORMATION.
WE NEED TO REALLY DIG INTO THIS HARD.
THE NEXT INFORMATION, AGAIN, SMALL NUMBERS.
ALTHOUGH I DO FEEL LIKE WE'RE SEEING SOME SUCCESS, THE MEDICATION FOR OPIOID USE DISORDER.
THIS IS OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH CAROLINE COUNTY DETENTION CENTER TO EXPAND THE CURRENT PROGRAM FOR SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER TREATMENT FOR THOSE INCARCERATED.
WE IMPLEMENTED THIS, WE REALLY GOT STARTED ON THIS IN FEBRUARY, MARCH OF 2023.
WE WERE UP AND MOVING, SO WE REALLY ONLY HAVE TWO QUARTERS WORTH OF INFORMATION, NOT ENOUGH FOR US TO GIVE YOU A REALLY GOOD ANALYSIS OF THE SITUATION.
THE GRANT FUNDING RUNS THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2024.
WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE OPIOID OPERATION COMMAND CENTER.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S REALLY TOO EARLY TO IN THE PROCESS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE DATA ANALYSIS AND BEING MINDFUL OF THE SMALL NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.
OUR TEAM MEETS WITH DETENTION CENTER STAFF ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND THOSE MEETINGS ARE TRACKED.
WE'RE FOCUSED ON CONTINUED SUSTAINABILITY AND MEASURING PERFORMANCE.
AGAIN, THIS IS VERY EARLY ON, BUT THE NUMBER OF RE-OFFENDING AND MEETS ENROLLED IN THE MOUD TREATMENT PROGRAM, I SAW A DECREASE FROM QUARTER 2 TO QUARTER 3.
AGAIN, THAT'S VERY EARLY ON BECAUSE THERE'S SOME SEASONALITY THAT IT'S INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
WE'RE TRYING TO BE MINDFUL THAT, WE WANT A GOOD PORTION OF DATA. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE?
>> THIS IS THE MAT PROGRAM [OVERLAPPING] AND THE MAIN FOUR. [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU ARE TRYING TO CONFUSE US WITH THESE [LAUGHTER] SO THIS IS THE DETENTION CENTER REFERS TO IT AS A MAT, MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE AND THE SAME HERE?
>> YEAH, AND MEDICATION FOR OPIOID USE DISORDER IS THE PROPER TERM TO USE?
>> [LAUGHTER] SORRY. I'M TRYING TO KEEP UP.
>> YES. SORRY. [LAUGHTER] LASTLY, A 2024 INITIATIVES.
I SPOKE ABOUT THE COORDINATED COMMUNITY SUPPORTS PROJECT.
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THAT'S GOING TO BE HUGE FOR US.WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ACTUALLY GETTING MOVING ON THAT YOU CAN SEE LIKE SOME OF THE GOALS, OUR GOAL CAPACITY TO SERVE AS 396 QUALIFYING STUDENTS HAVE REFERRED.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT SITUATION.
AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DES AND THE BLS COMMITTEE IN SHORT HEALTH.
EXPANDING OUR SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS TESTING CAPABILITIES.
WE ACTUALLY WERE APPROVED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS WITHIN OUR COMMUNICABLE DISEASE AND STI PROGRAMS AND THEN ESTABLISHING OUR ORGANIZATIONAL PERFORMANCE MEASURES BASED ON THE STATE HEALTH IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MDH IS CURRENTLY FOCUSED ON.
THE REVIEW OF THE STATE HEALTH IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO DO SOME OF THE WORK ON THAT AND REALLY DIG INTO THE INDICATORS FOR CAROLINE COUNTY AND TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
>> HAVE YOU HEARD ANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE, YOU HAD BROUGHT UP THE FUNDING FOR THE MEDICATION FOR OPIOID USE DISORDER, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE WHAT WE KNEW AS THE MAT [LAUGHTER].
HAVE YOU HEARD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE LEGISLATIONS REQUIREMENT THAT THE STATE COVER THE COST OF THAT PROGRAM? I THINK I HAD HEARD RUMBLINGS THAT IN THE LEGISLATION, IT SAID THAT THE STATE WAS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING BECAUSE I KNOW COMMISSIONER PORTER IN THE PREVIOUS BOARD, WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT A ONE-YEAR GRANT AND THEN THE COST GETS BURDEN GETS PUT ONTO THE COUNTY.
I'VE HEARD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. ARE YOU HEARING ANY?
>> WHEN I ASKED BECAUSE I WENT TO OOCC, WHICH IS THE OPIOID OPERATIONS COMMAND CENTER, WHO ACTUALLY FUNDED WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
I ASKED AND THEY ESSENTIALLY I GOT THERE WORKING ON IT.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT ON NOVEMBER 14TH THEY WILL BE HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY, AT THE [INAUDIBLE] I SENT YOU GUYS AN IMITATE A FLYER.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO ASK THAT QUESTION AT THAT TIME.
BECAUSE HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT.
BUT I KNOW THAT THEY PULLED BACK BECAUSE EARLY, I THINK IN THE WINTER WE HAD, OH NO, IT WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO COME OUT IN JUNE 1ST.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS THAT CAME OUT THROUGH THEM THAT WOULD CONTINUE THIS, WHAT WE'RE DOING, THEY PULLED IT BACK AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS I GUESS MAYBE AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING, SO I'M SURE IT'S BEING REVIEWED.
IF I HEAR ANYTHING I'LL MAKE SURE TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
>> OKAY, HAS ANYONE LOOKED INTO WHEN WE WERE IN MEXICO, THE WARDEN AND I ACTUALLY STOPPED BY BOOTH THAT THERE WAS SOME NEW MEDICATION OR WAS IT DIFFERENT VARIANT OF A MEDICATION THAT WASN'T INJECTION?
>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S EXACTLY. SO WE DID ADD IT [OVERLAPPING].
>> NOT IN THE DETENTION CENTER THIS TIME BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEA REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT.
BUT WE DO PROVIDE IT IN OUR CLINIC ON LEVEL TREATMENT UNIT.
>> ANY ADVANTAGE TO THAT WAS IT CAN'T BE DIVERTED.
IT'S AN INJECTION, SO IT'S I THINK IT'S ADMINISTERED [OVERLAPPING].
>> EVERY 30 DAYS. WE HAVE HONESTLY, WE JUST STARTED DOING THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE FINALLY FIGURED OUT THE LICENSURES IN DA AND I MEAN, OUR NUMBERS FOR THAT HAVE DEFINITELY INCREASED.
WE'VE PROBABLY GOT TWO OR THREE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS TO ADD TO THAT CASELOAD AND WE HAVE A DESIGNATED NURSE.
>> MENTAL HEALTH. HOW IS THE NEW OFFICE COMING ALONG?
>> YEAH, COME ON OVER. COME SEE US.
>> I KNOW I NEED TO. AS FAR AS THE COUNTY OUTREACH ON MENTAL HEALTH WE HAVE THE MOBILE TREATMENT.
ARE WE USING THAT AS MENTAL HEALTH TO PROMOTE TREATMENT UNITS?
>> IT'S PRIMARILY SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.
>> WELL, I KNOW WE TALKED BEFORE IN PREVIOUS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.
CAROLINE COUNTY IS ONE OF THOSE, MENTAL HEALTH, OUR NUMBERS ARE WAY UP.
>> WHAT WE DO IS WE INCORPORATE IT ALL TOGETHER. IT'S BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.
NO MATTER IF IT'S SUBSTANCE USE OR MENTAL HEALTH, WE COMBINE IT TOGETHER BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT
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MOST PEOPLE WITH SUBSTANCE USE ALSO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS AS WELL.THEY ARE TREATED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PATIENTS
>> DO YOU FIND THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE BECOMING MORE [NOISE] AWARE, LIKE HEY, MENTAL HEALTH IS MORE RECEPTIVE TO COMING FOR HELP AND ALL THAT?
I HAVE SEEN A HUGE DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
PEOPLE WERE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THEIR MENTAL HEALTH, NOT REALLY CARING FOR THEMSELVES, WHICH I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT.
THERE'S A LOT OF ONLINE OPTIONS, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY OPTION FOR THEM IF THEY DON'T WANT TO COME TO THEIR COMMUNITY TO SEEK MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS GREAT.
>> THAT COORDINATED COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
THAT NOT ONLY SUPPORTS CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS' MENTAL HEALTH, BUT THE FAMILY AS A WHOLE.
THAT'S GOING TO REALLY DO SOMETHING.
THE OTHER THING, WE'VE WORKED ON A ANTI-STIGMA CAMPAIGN SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
DEFINITELY, I THINK WE'VE SEEN A SHIFT IN THE STIGMA SITUATION.
>> THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION.
WE'VE COME A LONG WAY FROM OUR HEALTH REPORT CARD THAT WE USED TO HAVE WHERE WE WERE LAST IN EVERYTHING, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE LAST IN AND FIRST IN EVERYTHING, WE DID WANT TO BE FIRST IN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION.
IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND REVIEW IT, BUT VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.
I KNOW WE'VE EXPERIENCED A REALLY LARGE INFLUX OF NEW ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS AT GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY.
ARE YOU SEEING ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT AMONG THE NEW AMERICAN POPULATION; THE IMMIGRANT POPULATION?
>> MOST DEFINITELY IN TERMS OF THE IMMUNIZATION SITUATION.
WE PARTNER WITH CHOPTANK BECAUSE CHOPTANK HAS THE SCHOOL-BASED WELLNESS CENTERS IN THE SCHOOL.
THE SCHOOL ALSO KNOWS THAT THEY CAN BE REFERRED TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO RECEIVE IMMUNIZATION SO THAT THEY CAN GET EVERYONE ENROLLED IN SCHOOL.
YES, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT AN INCREASE.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS THE FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR THAT SERVICE, THEY'RE RECEIVING IT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO BEING PROVIDED OTHER RESOURCES.
WE DON'T WANT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO BE PRIMARY CARE FOR ANYONE, WE'RE DOING THE REFERRALS TO CHOPTANK OR TO WHEREVER IT MIGHT BE THAT THEY'RE IN NEED.
WE DID SEE A SLIGHT INFLUX, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY MANAGEABLE.
>> THE REASON FOR THE QUESTION IS I KNOW THAT GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY HAS OVER 20 NEW ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNER STUDENTS.
THAT'S NEW HISPANIC STUDENTS THAT HAVE MOVED INTO THE NORTH END IN CAROLINE COUNTY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW THE EFFECTS IT'S HAD ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BUT SO FAR YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP UP.
>> SURE, WE HAVE A GREAT IMMUNIZATION TEAM.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO NEW NURSES IN OUR DIRECTOR OF NURSING.
WE CAN DEFINITELY USE ONE MORE ON OUR COMMUNICABLE DISEASE SIDE.
WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT IN, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY MANAGEABLE.
WE'RE RUNNING FLU VACCINATION CLINICS, ALONG WITH SOME COVID CLINICS AS WELL.
SINCE THE TRANSITION TO COMMERCIAL FOR COVID VACCINATION, WE DO PROVIDE COVID VACCINE FOR UNINSURED, UNDERINSURED ADULTS.
>> WE PROVIDE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES TO GREENSBORO AS WELL, AND THAT'S REGARDLESS OF INSURANCE.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, GUYS.
>> OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER BARTZ, ANYTHING?
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>> I WILL THEN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> YOU ALSO NEED TO GO OUT OF YOUR [OVERLAPPING]
>> SORRY. [LAUGHTER] CAN I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE OUR BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING?
>> NOW, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[8. Consent Agenda:]
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.>> MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.
[9. County Administrator’s Report]
>> WELL, I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT I AM OFFICIALLY MOVED.
ALL OF MY STUFF IS IN THE COURTHOUSE.
THAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND, I'M UP THERE NOW.
I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO TOUR THE BUSINESSES YESTERDAY WITH DEBBIE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES I HAD NO IDEA EXISTED, THAT WAS GOOD.
DANNY AND I ARE SETTING UP, REALLY IT FEELS LIKE A ROUND OF MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS ALLIED AGENCIES.
THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS LAST WEEK AT THE COMMISSIONER'S MEETING ABOUT CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE AND THE CDL PROGRAM.
DANNY AND I ARE MEETING WITH DR. COPPERSMITH IN ABOUT A WEEK, TO GO TO WHERE THE FACILITY AND WE'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH HIM WITH THOSE QUESTIONS WHEN WE DO THAT.
I JUST RECEIVED FRIDAY AFTERNOON A TEMPLATE LETTER FOR THE LETTER OF INTENT FOR THE REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITY.
I FORWARDED THAT TO STUART JUST THIS MORNING.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT YET, SO THAT SHOULD BE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA THOUGH.
THEN THE LAST THING THAT I HAVE, DANNY AND I HAD A TEAMS MEETING YESTERDAY WITH THE AUDIT FIRM FOR MES, AND THE FIRM THAT WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH TO DIG INTO SOME OF THOSE FINANCIALS.
WE'RE GOING TO REPLY TO THEM, JUST AN INITIAL GREET MEETING, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE EMAILING THEM A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
HOPEFULLY, WE'LL MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON THAT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. YOU GOT ANYTHING, DANNY?
>> NO, YOU DID THE THINGS I HAD.
>> OKAY. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY?
>> COUNTY COMMISSIONER, URBAN DISCUSSION PERIOD.
COMMISSIONER BARTZ, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST?
>> I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP RUNNING ABOUT THE HUMANE SOCIETY WITH THE SHADE.
DID YOU SEND DWAYNE OUT THERE ABOUT THE GRAVEL AND ALL?
>> COME UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE.
>> I FORGOT THERE MYSELF ALSO.
[10.County Commissioners Open Discussion Period]
IT'S A GRAVEL PARKING LOT, BUT IT'S.>> ANYTHING PAID BUT WE MISS. YEAH.
>> WE ARE GOING OUT THURSDAY AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THE WHOLE THING IN CRUSH CONCRETE AND REDO THE WHOLE PARKING LOT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY JUST WHERE THEY CO OFF THE HARD SURFACE ROAD ONTO THE GRAVEL.
THEY SPIN THEIR WHEELS WHEN, NOT SAY THEY, WHOEVER'S LEAVING, SPINS THE WHEELS THEY CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIVIDER, WE RACK IT BACK IN.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE PROBLEM.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY A DIFFERENT MATERIAL TO GO AND TRY TO CRUSH CONCRETE AND DO THE WHOLE ENTIRE PARKING LOT AND.
>> JUST GET A HARD RAIN AND GO OUT THERE AND SEE HOW IT IS AFTER A HARD RAIN.
>> I WAS OUT THERE, WENT PASTED IT YESTERDAY AND THERE WAS REALLY NO HOLES.
I MEAN THERE IS, I'M NOT SAYING IN PARK THERE IS NO A LITTLE WET OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NO MAJOR HOLE BUT THURSDAY WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MATERIAL, WE ARE GOING TO PUT ABOUT 40 TONS OF MATERIAL ON THE PARKING LOT WHERE THEY PARKED AT, IT'S CURRENTLY NOT REALLY A PARKING LOT, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MOVE THEIR CARS, ACTUALLY GIVE THEM A SPOT TO PARK AND THEN DO THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT WITH CRUSH CONCRETE AND ROLL IT IN AND HOPEFULLY WE END UP WITH SOMETHING THAT LASTS A LITTLE BIT.
BUT AGAIN, EVERY TIME YOU LEAVE THIS SPINNER TIRES TO GET OUT ON THE ROAD AND IT'S GOING TO ALWAYS BE A PROBLEM UNLESS WE PAVE IT.
>> LAST WEDNESDAY WE HAD OUR MARYDEL LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVE MEETING.
THESE ARE THE FOUR INITIATIVES THAT MAKE MARYDEL FEELS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PURSUE THIS IN THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
THEY ARE TO LAUNCH FORWARD-THINKING FIREFIGHTER AND EMS INCENTIVES, PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY AND EDUCATION SPENDING,
[02:10:04]
MODERNIZE LOCAL REVENUE STRUCTURES, AND TO ADVANCE COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING STUDIES.THIS WAS ABOUT AN HOUR-AND-A-HALF MEETING LONGER THAN THAT ACTUALLY AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH.
I ACTUALLY DID NOT AGREE WITH ALL OF THESE.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS STILL NOTHING ON THIS LIST AS FAR AS BATTERY STORAGE.
WHAT I LEARNED FROM THAT GROUP WAS THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO PURSUE ANY TYPE OF INITIATIVES THAT THEY DON'T FEEL THEY'VE GOT THE VOTES TO GET PAST.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
I THINK YOU SHOULD DO WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT AND NOT WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING TO GET YOUR VOTES.
BUT I EXPRESS THAT POSITION VERY CLEARLY AND OF COURSE, THEY ALL UNDERSTOOD, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ENDED UP.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE INITIATIVES GOING FORWARD.
I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MODERNIZED LOCAL REVENUE STRUCTURES, ALTHOUGH I GUESS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A WAY TO GENERATE THE ABILITY TO CHARGE TAXES ON THINGS THAT WOULD GENERATE MORE REVENUE SINCE MOST COUNTIES ARE LOCKED INTO THE CAP AS FAR AS THE INCOME TAX.
I DON'T KNOW. BUT THESE ARE THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH SO IT'S WHAT IT IS.
>> THE BRACKETING OF THE INCOME TAX THAT DIDN'T GET THROUGH OR IS THAT IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE TAX?
>> I THINK I SENT EVERYBODY THE EMAIL, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT INCLUDED ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRACKETING.
IT WAS MORE GIVING THE ABILITY TO TAX, LIKE INTERNET TRANSACTIONS OR AMUSEMENT RIDES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE MORE SPECIFIC TO SOME COUNTIES, BUT NOT ALL.
BUT IT EXPANDED THE AVENUES TO GENERATE MORE TAX REVENUE WITHOUT INCREASING THE PROPERTY TAX OR EXPANDING THE INCOME TAX RATE.
IF YOU GUYS ARE GOOD, WE WILL GO AHEAD TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
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NONE SEEN.>> THANK YOU GUYS FOR FINALLY PUTTING IN NOT JUST HERE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AND IT'S DONE IN ALL THE THINGS.
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER A LOT OF TIME AND YOU CAN'T RECOVER IT ONCE IT'S GONE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSE SESSION FOR THE DISCUSSION OF THE APPOINTMENT,
[12.Closed Session]
EMPLOYMENT, OR ASSIGNMENT OF COUNTY EMPLOYEES UNDER AUTHORITY, 2014, MARYLAND CODE, STATE GOVERNMENT 3-SERIAL 5B SUBSECTION 1.>> MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> DO YOU HAVE ONE MOMENT?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.