Dec 20, 2023 Liquor Board (Board of License Commisioners)

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I'M GOING TO JUST CHECK IT WHILE WE'RE LOOKING.

YOU'RE OKAY. WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS FOR WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 20TH, 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, WE HAVE SOME TEMPORARY APPLICATIONS.

WE HAVE SOME MULTI-EVENT LICENSES.

FIRST ONE IS GOING TO BE ORIGINALLY VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.

[Ridgely Vol. Fire Department, Inc- 2024 Multiple Event License]

STATE MONEY.

YEAH. I'LL READ THE OATH TO YOU.

VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I GOT TO DO THE OATH FIRST.

OKAY. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE AND THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.

NOW STATE YOUR NAME.

BARBARA BRADLEY, VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU.

CRYSTAL. DID YOU WANT TO? SO, BARBIE, IF YOU WANT TO, JUST GO AHEAD.

AND SINCE THIS IS YOUR YOU'VE COMPLETED ONE YEAR WITH DOING YOUR FIRST MULTI EVENT, JUST LET THE BOARD KNOW HOW THAT WENT AND WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO THIS YEAR AND JUST CONFIRM THAT THE ADDRESS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING THE LICENSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON YOUR APPLICATION, IF IT'S AT 101 SUNSET, THAT'S WHERE YOU USE, IT'S 101 SUNSET BOULEVARD AT THE FIREHOUSE ITSELF.

WE GOT THE 1010 EVENT LICENSE LAST YEAR.

WE DIDN'T USE IT ALL, BUT IT JUST SAVES US FROM COMING BACK.

AND JUST IN CASE, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FUNDRAISERS WE'RE HAVING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME ONES, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR NEXT YEAR OTHER THAN WE DO HAVE.

ONE FUNDRAISER COMING UP ON JANUARY 6TH.

UM, WE HAD A FALL FEST LAST YEAR.

WE DID A FIRST BINGO.

UM, AND IT WASN'T REALLY A LOT OF ALCOHOL.

IT WAS JUST VERY CASUAL.

MOST OF THE TIME IT'S JUST SOMEBODY WANTING, YOU KNOW, A BEER TO SIT WHILE THEY PLAY BINGO AND THAT'S IT.

SO. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

WHETHER ANYBODY'S REALLY GETTING INTOXICATED.

EVERYTHING'S LIMITED TO THE FIREHOUSE ITSELF.

AND IF WE DO HAVE THE DOORS OPEN OUT BACK, WE DO FENCE UP THE CONCRETE AREA OUT BACK.

AND I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE TIPS TRAINED.

I'VE ATTENDED A COUPLE OF THE RIDGELY FIRE DEPARTMENT EVENTS.

THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE RIDGELY PD.

AND BARBIE DID A VERY NICE JOB FOR HER FIRST INSPECTION.

I THINK WE CAUGHT HER OFF GUARD, BUT WE TOOK IT AS A LEARNING CURVE, AND EVERYTHING WENT GREAT.

OKAY? OKAY. I'VE GOT NO QUESTIONS.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS EITHER.

I THINK BARBIE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

I WAS GOING TO SAY SHE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS BEFORE I COULD ASK.

YOU. READ MY MIND.

THAT BASICALLY WAS WHERE THE SHORT STORY YOUR CONTAINMENT AREA WAS GOING TO BE.

AND YOU YOU HAD IT ON HERE, AND I JUST WANTED TO HEAR IT.

SO, NOW I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

IF IT'S SMALLER FUNCTIONS, WE HAVE IT IN THE HALL FOR, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 100 PEOPLE.

BUT IF IT'S BIGGER, WE HAVE IT IN THE ENGINE BAY, AND IT STAYS IN THERE.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS IF YOU DO END UP HAVING A LARGER FUNCTION.

AND YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO USE A LARGER PREMISE OUTSIDE AND EVERYTHING, WILL YOU? YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU BE IN CONTACT WITH THE BOARD OR WHATEVER, LIKE YOUR PREMISE IS GOING TO BE LARGER OR WHATEVER.

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THAT WAY, THAT WAY, IF YOU IF YOU HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER SITE PLAN OR WHATEVER, YOU CAN DO THAT.

OKAY. THAT WAY YOU'RE COVERED.

NOPE. I PLAN ON KEEPING IT.

KEEP IT SIMPLE TO WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AND KNOW WHERE IF SOMETHING LARGER CAME, CAME AROUND OR WHATEVER.

OKAY, AND I MAKE A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ORIGINALLY VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES TEN EVENT TEMPORARY APPLICATION.

FOR THE YEAR OF 2024.

I SECOND IT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS MULTI-EVENT LICENSE FOR ORIGINALLY VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD YEAR I HOPE SO.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE.

MERRY CHRISTMAS. RIGHT HERE.

THAT MIGHT BE ON PURPOSE.

NEXT ON THE LIST, THE TEMPORARY APPLICATION IS GREENSBORO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY FOR A 2024, UH, 30

[Greensboro Vol. Fire Co. Inc. 2024 Multiple Event License]

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

AND DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE IN THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

GREENSBORO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CRYSTAL.

YOU OKAY? SO, GREENSBORO'S BEEN DOING MULTI EVENTS NOW FOR A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO, I WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW HOW LAST YEAR WENT AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PLANNING THIS YEAR.

AS FAR AS I KNOW EVERYTHING WENT FINE.

I'M TAKING IT OVER AGAIN AFTER A FOUR-YEAR HIATUS.

WELL, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY PROBLEMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO DO, SINCE I'M GOING TO BE NOW THE HOLDER OF THE LICENSE.

I'M GOING INTO THE BAR; I'M GOING TO DO MY OWN INVENTORY.

WE'RE GOING TO START FROM SCRATCH.

I WENT THERE, I KNOW WHAT'S THERE.

I KNOW WHAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR.

THAT WAY. THERE, I CAN'T HEAR.

WELL, THAT WAS THERE.

SO, THAT'S MY PLAN.

AS FAR AS THE EVENTS ARE NOT GO.

LAST YEAR WE DID THE ONE TRACTOR PULL IN THE RODEO WHERE WE CAME TO THE BOARD AND REQUESTED TO BE ALLOWED TO SELL THE ALCOHOL OUTSIDE.

WE WILL PROBABLY DO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

OUR SECOND TRACTOR PULL GOT CANCELED IN THE FALL BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.

AND THAT BECAUSE WE NORMALLY DO TWO.

SO, I DEFINITELY WILL BE COMING BACK TO DO THE TWO TRACTOR PULLS AND THE RODEO AGAIN.

SO, WE'LL BE USING THE SAME SITE PLAN THAT WE USED LAST YEAR.

AND YEAH, THAT WAS LIKE THE SUGGESTION I MADE WITH THEM.

UM, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S LARGER THAN YOUR PREMISE OR CHANGES UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST MAKE SURE YOU CONTACT THE BOARD LIKE IN IN PLENTY OF NOTICE OR PLENTY OF TIME FOR NOTICE. SO, YOU'RE NOT UP AGAINST THE WALL.

YEAH. TREY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO GREENSBORO HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH.

THERE WAS ONE INSTANCE A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE ALCOHOL WAS.

IF THEY NEEDED MORE ALCOHOL, THEY WERE RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET GETTING IT, THEN THEY'D RETURN IT.

AND THAT WE ADDRESS THAT AT THE TIME.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SINCE YOU GUYS RUN A REALLY GOOD EVENT AND I'VE DONE A BUNCH OF TIPS.

TRAINS WITH NUMEROUS PEOPLE FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE TOWN.

SO, THEY ASKED SOME GREAT QUESTIONS.

I FEEL THAT THEY HAVE OUR SUPPORT, AND IF THEY NEED ANYTHING, THEY CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT.

YEAH, I KNOW THEY'VE HAD THESE MULTI-EVENT LICENSES FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW.

RIGHT? YEAH.

NO. AND HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY.

PLUS, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THEY HAVE ALSO GONE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TO HELP WHEN THEY DO HAVE THEIR OUTSIDE EVENTS.

THEY'VE NOW PUTTING UP CHAIN LINK FENCE INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO PUT UP SOME BARRICADES OR SOMETHING.

THEY THEY'VE MADE IT A LITTLE HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO JUST WANDER IN, POSSIBLY WITH THEIR OWN ALCOHOL.

SO, THEY DEFINITELY HAVE THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, AND THEY DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY EVENTS.

I RECENTLY WALKED INTO APPARENTLY YOU GUYS ARE DOING CHURCH THERE A COUPLE NIGHTS.

I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE DOING CHURCH THERE A COUPLE NIGHTS.

I WALKED INTO WHAT I BELIEVE WAS A CHURCH SERVICE.

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AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH NIGHT OF THE WEEK IT IS, BUT IT'S BEEN FREQUENT.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT A MONTH OR SO SINCE I'VE SEEN IT, BUT.

REALLY? YEAH.

HOW DID OUR HALL. YEAH.

OH, I DIDN'T SEE ANY.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY ALCOHOL, BUT IT DEFINITELY WASN'T A WEDDING.

OKAY. YOU READY FOR A MOTION? I AM. I ALSO SEE THAT THEY'VE GOT A, UM.

LARGE NUMBER OF TIPS TRAINS.

YEAH, THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ON THERE.

YEAH, WE HAVE ALL THE CERTIFICATES HERE.

SO THEY'VE SENT A GOOD NUMBER TO ME AS WELL AS OTHERS THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

GREENSBORO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES 2024 MULTI-EVENT LICENSE FOR 30 EVENTS.

I SECOND THAT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS MULTI-EVENT LICENSE FOR GREENSBORO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. THANK YOU.

RICH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE DAY.

THANK YOU. IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, JUST GIVE A HOLLER.

ALL RIGHT.

RUSSELL. I'M NOT AFRAID TO CALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DAVID, YOU CAN COME ON UP.

YEAH. DAVID. HOW YOU DOING? ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE.

[Chesapeake Culinary Center 2024 Multiple Event License]

AND ADDRESS OR YOUR CULINARY CENTER.

THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. MAY WE SEE? OKAY. SAME THING SINCE YOU WERE FIRST YEAR DOING YOUR MULTI-EVENT LAST YEAR.

LET THE BOARD KNOW WHAT YOU DID AND HOW IT WENT AND WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE FOR THIS YEAR.

SURE. SO, UM, LAST YEAR WAS OUR FIRST YEAR FOR A MULTI-EVENT LICENSE.

I THINK WE DID 20.

WE DID AN UNDERWHELMING LIKE FIVE EVENTS OR SOMETHING UNDER IT.

SO, WE CUT IT BACK A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DO, BUT ANYWAY, SO WE APPLIED FOR TEN THIS YEAR.

HOPEFULLY WE GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE GOAL.

IT'S TYPICALLY FOR SMALL FUNDRAISERS FOR US.

UM. FUNDRAISERS FOR OTHER NONPROFITS THAT CAN BENEFIT FROM THERE BEING BEER.

WINE. THERE.

WE TYPICALLY KEEP EVERYTHING ON THE TOP FLOOR IN OUR MEETING ROOMS. I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE SPACE.

UM, OCCASIONALLY, IF IT'S A LARGER GROUP FOR A FUNDRAISER WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE IN, WE WILL TENT OFF A LITTLE PATIO AREA THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS NEW TO US. WE JUST GOT THAT LAST YEAR.

SO, WHEN WE HAVE HAD THE SPILL OVER, I'VE REACHED OUT WITH THE SITE PLAN.

UM, AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME IF I'M GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN.

UM. I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

REALLY? I THINK YOU WERE ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH SUPPER AT SUNSET, AT THE LAST MINUTE LAST YEAR, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CHANGEOVER WITH THE ORGANIZATION THAT WAS HOSTING THE EVENT. UM, YEAH, I THINK IT WAS DOWNTOWN DENTON MAIN STREET, AND YOU HAD APPROVED THEIR LICENSE.

BUT THEN THERE WAS SOME CHANGE IN STAFFING.

SO CULINARY CENTER ENDED UP STEPPING UP TO HOST.

IT SWOOPED IN, I SAID, I'VE GOT 15 OF THESE BAD BOYS LEFT.

DO YOU NEED ONE, TOO? HOW MANY EVENTS DID YOU DO LAST YEAR? YOU SAID, I THINK IT WAS 4 OR 5.

I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.

I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU'RE GOING BACK TO TEN.

IF YOU RUN CLOSE ON THAT, CAN HE JUST.

YES. YOU COULD APPLY FOR ANOTHER TEN IF YOU NEEDED.

OH YEAH. OKAY. SO, I MEAN DON'T LET THAT RESTRICT YOU IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, DOING YOUR EVENT.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

AND THEN.

SO, I ALWAYS.

YEAH. OKAY. SO, YOU SEND THE CONFIRMATION EMAIL BEFORE EACH ONE AND THEN I JUST KEEP THOSE.

YES. SO, FIVE DAYS BEFORE YOUR EVENT, YOU JUST EMAIL AND SAY, HERE'S THE NAME OF THE EVENT, THE DATE, THE TIMES AND WHO'S GOING TO BE TIP CERTIFIED.

AND THEN WE'LL JUST CONFIRM THAT WITH YOU.

AND YOU JUST KEEP THAT WITH YOUR LICENSE IN CASE SOMEBODY FROM THE CONTROLLER OR ATC COMES BY FOR AN INSPECTION OR TRAY.

THEY KNOW THAT IT'S ON RECORD WITH THE BOARD.

SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH.

AND IF YOU LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU HAVE ANY LIKE, EXPANSION OF IT OR IF YOU HAVE TO PUT UP A TENT OR WHATEVER, JUST LET THEM KNOW IN PLENTY OF TIME BEFORE THAT WAY, THOUGH, IT WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND HE'S FAMILIAR WITH ME AS WE JUST DID.

THE CATFISH INSPECTION DID VERY WELL.

THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST REAL IN-DEPTH INSPECTIONS THAT THEY'VE HAD SINCE THEY'VE DONE THAT, BECAUSE ALL THE EVENTS HAVE BEEN KIND OF SMALLER.

BUT THEY'RE GETTING MORE, MORE POPULATED, I THINK.

SO, LIKE I SAID, THE INSPECTION WENT GREAT.

THE CULINARY CENTER ALWAYS DOES A GOOD JOB.

AND I THINK THAT THEY REACH OUT TO US.

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THANK YOU. OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

NO. LET ME GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CHESAPEAKE CULINARY CENTER'S 2024 MULTI-EVENT LICENSE FOR TEN EVENTS.

I SECOND THAT. SO, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS MULTI-EVENT LICENSE FOR THE CHESAPEAKE CULINARY CENTER.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. THANK YOU.

RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD CHRISTMAS, TOO.

THANKS. GOLDSBORO WAS UNEXPECTEDLY OUT OF TOWN.

[Goldsboro Vol. Fire Co. Inc. 2024 Multiple Event License]

OKAY. OKAY, SO GOLDSBORO FIRE COMPANY, THEY'RE DOING THEIR MULTI YEAR AFTER YEAR EVENT LICENSE THE REQUESTED 20 FOR THIS YEAR.

AND FOR MANY YEARS JODI LUCKETT WAS THE LICENSE HOLDER AND IN CHARGE OF HANDLING THE LICENSES.

AND I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR SHE STEPPED DOWN AND AMANDA SQUIRES PICKED UP.

SO, WE HAD TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR WHAT TREY WAS LOOKING FOR ON INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT WENT WELL LAST YEAR, AND THEY ARE CHANGING THIS YEAR TO RON DIXON.

I KNOW BOTH OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH RON.

HE'S GOING TO BE THEIR LICENSE HOLDER.

MOVING FORWARD, IT USED TO ALWAYS BE JOEL MCGINNIS, WHO WAS PRESIDENT.

SO, THEY PROBABLY HAD A CHANGE OF OFFICERS IN THE FIRE COMPANY.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY DID A GOOD NUMBER OF EVENTS AND HAD TO COME BACK IN TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR TO GET AN ADDITIONAL TEN BECAUSE THEY HAD USED ALL THEIR EVENTS.

SO, THIS YEAR THEY'RE ASKING FOR 20 INSTEAD OF TEN.

BECAUSE THEY ENDED UP HAVING TO DO ANOTHER TEN TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY'VE BEEN DOING THEM FOR MANY YEARS, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN NO PROBLEMS, SAID RON'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD TO US.

UM, HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO DO THE UNDERAGE CHECKS WITH US.

AND THEN AMANDA, LIKE I SAID, FIRST YEAR TAKING OVER, THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT HAD TO BE MADE, AND SHE JUMPED RIGHT ON TOP OF THOSE THINGS AND FAR EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS.

SO THOSE EVENTS GO VERY, VERY WELL.

THEY KEEP US IN THE LOOP.

AND THEY'VE ALSO BEEN TIPS TRAINED BY US AS WELL.

I SEE THEY GOT A LIST AND RON DIXON IS THE TIPS TRAINER TOO.

AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO, I DON'T THINK YOU GOT A LONG LIST OF TIPS TRAINED HERE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY ISSUES.

DEFINITELY EXCITED THAT HE TOOK THAT OVER.

SO YEAH, THAT LOOKS THAT LOOKS GOOD FOR THE FUTURE.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

I'VE BEEN QUIET. I GO TO QUITE A FEW OF THEIR EVENTS.

YEAH. THEY'VE HAD THEM FOR YEARS.

YEAH. THEY'VE KIND OF GOT IT.

THEY WERE ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT INITIATED THE CHANGE TO ALLOW MULTI EVENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE RESTRICTED TO JUST THE 12 WHAT WAS IN STATE CODE.

AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, WE'RE FEELING LIKE WE HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHO WE DO HALL RENTALS FOR.

YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANY MONEY.

AND THEY AND THAT'S WHEN WE COME TO THE STATE WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION TO ALLOW THE MULTI EVENTS.

SO, THEY'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST INSPECTED FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE SEE.

BUT FROM JODI, FROM AMANDA TO RON, LIKE I SAID IT'S BEEN A PRETTY GOOD RUN ORGANIZATION.

AND I DID TALK TO DENTON BECAUSE THE PAST 2 OR 3 YEARS THEY'VE REALLY ONLY BEEN DOING ONE EVENT, AND THEY KEEP APPLYING FOR A 20-EVENT LICENSE.

SO, THIS YEAR THEY DECIDED THEY'RE PRETTY CERTAIN THE ONLY EVENT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEY'RE NOT DOING HALL RENTALS ANYMORE.

SO, IT'S JUST THE GUN BASH.

SO, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GET A ONE DAY TEMPORARY FOR THAT IN LIEU OF DOING THE MULTI EVENT.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE THEIR APPLICATION HERE THIS YEAR.

I WAS WONDERING WHERE THAT WAS.

I'LL MAKE A MINT.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

GOLDSBORO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES, 2020 FOR MULTI EVENT LICENSE FOR 20 EVENTS.

I SECOND IT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE GOLDSBORO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES MULTI-EVENT LICENSE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SO MOVED. MR. STEVENSON. YES.

OKAY, COME ON UP.

[Minary's Dream Alliance- One Day Temporary License]

FOR A LATE ADDITION, AN APPLICATION FOR OR FOR A TEMPORARY LICENSE. MR. STEVENSON. YES, SIR.

OKAY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

WE'LL DO THE OATH, AND THEN AFTERWARDS, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

UH, DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE IN THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, SIR.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

JEFF STEVENSON. MONTEREY.

OKAY. AND THE ADDRESS? 107 SMITHVILLE.

OKAY. PLEASE BE SEATED.

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YES. AND THE NONPROFIT IS A NONPROFIT THAT HAS NOT BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE.

SO, HE'S COME IN TO DISCUSS HIS EVENT WITH YOU AND ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THAT EVENT.

SO, I'LL LET HIM GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH.

EXPLAIN AND WHAT? WHAT HIS PLANS ARE.

SURE. YES.

I'M JUST PLANNING ON HAVING A NEW YEAR'S EVE GALA.

AND FEDERALSBURG, MARYLAND AT 108 EAST CENTRAL AVENUE.

OKAY. WHAT'S THAT? WHAT DOES THAT GALLON CONTAIN? WHAT KIND OF EVENT IS IT? WHAT DO YOU HAVE? TUXEDOS. GOWNS.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE BEER.

WINE? ANY IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'RE EXPECTING? YES. 70.

70? YES.

70 PEOPLE.

I'M GOING TO BUILD IN 75 SEATS.

LIKE, AS FAR AS, LIKE A SIT DOWN.

ARE YOU SERVING ANY FOOD OR JUST ALCOHOL? OR IS THERE MUSIC? FOOD ALSO? AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LIKE A BAND.

OKAY, SO AS FAR AS THE FOOD, DO YOU HAVE YOUR FOOD PERMIT FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? NO, I'M GOING TO GET SOMEONE TO CATER IT.

OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CATERER? YES. HOW'S IT BEING ADVERTISED WITH? HOW ARE YOU ADVERTISING THE EVENT? VIA FACEBOOK.

HOW THE ADMISSION IS THE ADMISSION GOING TO INCLUDE ANY DRINKS OR ANYTHING? NOT AT ALL.

SO, HOW ARE YOU CHARGING? ARE YOU. IS IT A CASH BAR? ARE YOU DOING A TICKET SALES? CASH BAR OR? OKAY, SO THERE'S NO TICKETS OR ADMISSION CHARGE.

YES, THERE WILL BE TICKET SALES.

OKAY. SO, YOU'RE DOING TICKET SALES AND THEN A CASH BAR.

YES. OKAY. WHERE WILL YOU BE PURCHASING YOUR ALCOHOL? HOW WILL YOU BE? THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

AND I'M FIRST TIME.

SO, I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESSES.

I KNOW I CAN'T JUST GO TO A REGULAR STORE, AND I KNOW I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A DISTRIBUTOR, I'M SURE.

YEAH. WHAT USUALLY THESE TEMPORARY LICENSES ARE FOR NONPROFIT.

WHAT IS THE NONPROFIT THAT YOU EXPLAIN? ALLIANCE. OKAY.

AND WHAT IS THAT? WHAT CAN YOU GIVE US A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT? THAT SNOW HILL, MARYLAND.

SO, IT'S BASICALLY LIKE WHEN WE DEAL WITH LOW-INCOME PEOPLE LIKE PRETTY MUCH AS FAR AS PUSHING.

EDUCATION. RECREATION, MENTORSHIP, THINGS OF THAT SORT.

OKAY. THE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST KIND OF BASICALLY WANT TO GET A LITTLE IDEA OF YOU.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING ANYONE OUTSIDE DURING THIS EVENT.

IT'S ALL GOING TO STAY WITHIN THE BUILDING TO STAY WITHIN THE BUILDING.

OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY CONFLICT OR ANY CONFUSION UNDER THE TOWN TAKES PLACE.

YOU HAVE LISTED 9 P.M.

TO TWO IN THE MORNING FOR YOUR EVENT.

I HAVEN'T LISTED 9 TO 1.

OKAY. OKAY, I'M JUST GOING OFF OF THIS.

IT SAYS 9 TO 2 ON HERE.

YEAH, OKAY. 9 TO 2.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST THAT YOU CAN SERVE ALCOHOL, RIGHT? LIKE 2:00. THAT'S THE LAST.

THAT ALCOHOL CAN BE OUT PERIOD.

OUT PERIOD CAN BE TO ACTUALLY BE CLEANING.

USUALLY, YOU'LL DO LAST CALL AT LIKE ONE.

OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH.

AND THEN AT 2:00 IT'S GOT TO BE SHUT DOWN.

OKAY. ON YOUR APPLICATION.

YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING OF THE RESIDENCE OR THE LEASE HOLDER.

YOU'RE THE LEASE HOLDER? PRETTY MUCH. YES. OKAY.

SO, THE OWNER OF THE PREMISES WILL HAVE TO SIGN YOUR APPLICATION DOCUMENT.

I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT.

HE JUST HASN'T SIGNED IT YET BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE NOTARIZED.

YES. RIGHT.

OKAY. ARE YOU LEASING IT JUST FOR THAT NIGHT OR.

NO, NOT AT ALL.

I CURRENTLY HAVE A TWO-YEAR LEASE.

OKAY. WHEN DOES THAT START AND WHEN DOES THAT END? IT STARTS, UH.

WHEN I OPENED. PRETTY MUCH.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

LIKE WHEN WE HAD A DEAL.

PRETTY MUCH LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO BE TECHNICALLY RESPONSIBLE UNTIL WE OFFICIALLY OPEN.

BECAUSE I'M OPENING IN A RESTAURANT, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH.

OKAY. SO, YOU'RE DOING LIKE CONSTRUCTION OR.

YES, YES, I'M PRETTY MUCH JUST PUTTING IT TOGETHER NOW.

PRETTY MUCH.

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THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO COME. SO, I CAN LEARN, TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME, SO.

OKAY. YEAH. WHAT, YOU LIKE THE TEMPORARY APPLICATION.

YOU KNOW, THEY THEY'VE HAD THEM FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.

THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY FAMILIAR.

YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. THE ONES THAT YOU SAW IN HERE THIS MORNING, WE THEY LIKE GREENSBORO.

THEY'VE BEEN EIGHT YEARS.

GOLDSBORO HAS PROBABLY BEEN EVEN LONGER THAN THAT.

I MEAN THAT'S IDEAL FOR ME TO GET THE MULTI EVENT LICENSE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO TRY IT OUT.

LIKE TO SEE THE PROCESSES.

WELL, THE MOTIVE I MEAN, BASICALLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE A BUSINESS, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE ALCOHOL AS A RESTAURANT, YOU WILL HAVE TO HOLD A LICENSE.

UNDERSTOOD? UNDERSTOOD.

WHATEVER CLASS THAT THAT WILL FALL UNDER.

SO, I MEAN, WOULD I STILL HAVE TO COME HERE AND SIT IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS? LIKE THE SAME THING? PRETTY MUCH, MAN.

BUT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. WOULD YOU WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GO TO OPEN YOUR RESTAURANT OR WHATEVER, AND YOU WANT TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FILL OUT A APPLICATION AND EVERYTHING TO APPLY FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT.

OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. UM, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO YOU'LL END UP COMING IN FRONT OF.

THERE'LL BE A WHOLE PROCESS TO LIKE A PACKET THAT YOU'LL HAVE, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF US TO GET A LICENSE.

OKAY. AS FAR AS NOW, YOU SAY THIS IS BECAUSE TEMPORARY LICENSES FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S MEANT FOR.

SO, YOU CAN'T REALLY GET A.

ACTUAL LIQUOR LICENSE FOR NONPROFITS.

OKAY. SO THAT. OKAY.

UNDERSTOOD. SO THAT'S WHY THEY COME AND GET THE MALL TIME AND EVENT THEY GET.

YES. THEY GET MULTI EVENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE EVENTS.

THEY'RE NOT A BAR THAT'S OPEN FOR BUSINESS OKAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE EVENTS LIKE THEY HAVE FUNCTIONS, OR THEY HAVE HALL RENTALS OR WHATEVER.

THEY CAN USE THOSE EVENTS.

SO, BUT THEY'RE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

THAT'S. WHAT THE TEMPORARY LICENSE IS MEANT FOR THE NON-PROFITS.

YOU GIVE US THE BYLAWS OF THE MINER'S DREAM ALLIANCE.

BUT THERE'S NO SIGNATURES OR ANYTHING ON THE ON THE BACK OF THAT.

YES, I CAN SEND IT ALSO.

OKAY. HOW ABOUT TO SERVE IT? SOMEBODY HAS TO BE TIP CERTIFIED.

YOU HAVE? YES. I SENT OVER ONE PERSON THAT WAS TIP CERTIFIED, BUT I CAN SEND OVER ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE IF I DO GET APPROVED, I WANT AT LEAST TWO.

OKAY. PEOPLE, THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE AT THE EVENT THAT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE ON PREMISE.

THAT'S BEEN SERVING US SERVING.

AND THE, I ASSUME THAT THE RESTAURANT HAS SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR.

ABSOLUTELY. UH, I HAVE FRONT PARKING.

I HAD THE PARCEL THAT'S A TAX NEXT TO IT.

AND ALSO, THERE'S A HUGE BACK PARKING LOT.

OKAY. HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE TOWN? NO, BUT I CAN, BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE.

IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON HAVING A BAND AND PEOPLE OUTSIDE.

SO, AND I'M LIKE I SAID, IF, YOU KNOW, WE GRANT THIS LICENSE OR THEY GRANT THIS LICENSE, WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TOWN BECAUSE WE'VE GRANTED THAT LICENSE. IF THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL THERE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE APARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM TALKING TO THEM.

SO, THE BOARD WILL GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR SOMETHING FROM THE TOWN PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE TO SAY THEY'RE AWARE OF YOUR EVENT.

AND, OKAY, THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE TOWN.

OKAY. THEY'RE DEFINITELY AWARE BECAUSE I ACTUALLY INVITED THEM, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. SO, I KNOW WE ORIGINALLY TALKED.

WHEN YOU FIRST APPLIED, YOU HAD LISTED YOURSELF AS THE APPLICANT AND.

THEN YOU CHANGED IT TO, I THINK SOMEONE HOLDING.

OKAY, NOW HE'S GOING TO BE YOUR LICENSE HOLDER.

YES. OKAY. BECAUSE USUALLY THE BOARD MEETS WITH THE LICENSE HOLDER WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

SO, I THINK SINCE HE'S NOT HERE, THE BOARD'S PROBABLY GOING TO ASK FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS TO VERIFY HE IS AN OFFICER OF THE ORGANIZATION. AND ALL OF THAT IS WHATEVER IT IS.

GOOD. OKAY. AND HE'LL NEED TO SIGN THAT APPLICATION.

SO, WE'LL MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY YOU'VE GOT A CLEAN COPY TO WORK WITH.

THERE WAS, I'M ASSUMING, YOU SUBMITTED ONE APPLICATION AND THEN IT CHANGED THE HARLEM NIGHTS HK GALA.

YES. IT SAID THAT WAS CLUB FEAR.

IS THAT A DIFFERENT APPLICATION THAN THE MINER'S DREAM OR THEY'RE KIND OF AFFILIATED, PRETTY MUCH.

THAT'S THE ACTUAL NAME, THE DREAM ALLIANCE.

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YOU BOTH HAVE THE SAME ADDRESS IN SNOW HILL.

MINERS DREAM AND THE CLUB FEAR.

BOTH ARE SHOWING THE SAME ADDRESS.

I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, BEANS? WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY.

WE'RE JUST UNDERSTOOD WITH THE.

SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PROBABLY TO YOU.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BEING A LITTLE.

NO, NOT AT ALL. THAT'S MY FIRST TIME HERE.

BUT I EXPECTED IT NOT TO GO TOO SMOOTH WITH ONE DAY EVENTS LIKE THIS.

SOMETIMES WE'VE SEEN THEM DO GOOD.

SOMETIMES IT'S GONE REALLY, REALLY BAD.

WHERE IF, LIKE I SAID, YOU'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS EVENTS HAVE FIREWORKS, THEY CATCH ON FIRE, EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO GET OUT.

THEY'VE SHOWED EVENTS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN TYPICALLY WITH A ONE-DAY EVENT, YOU THROW A PARTY.

WELL, THEN WE TRY TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE.

WELL, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN COLORADO.

SO, THAT'S THE KIND OF EVENTS THAT WE SEE.

UM, AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE STATE.

THE STATE HAS THEIR OWN ENFORCEMENT.

I ENFORCE AS WELL.

SO, THEY SAID THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE BECAUSE YOU ONLY DO HAVE TEN PARKING SPOTS UP FRONT IF THAT.

OKAY. AND I KNOW, I KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT PARKING LOT IS SOAKING WET IN THE BACK.

YEAH. SO, YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE, AND I GUARANTEE IT'LL PROBABLY BE SOAKING WET TILL NEW YEAR'S OKAY.

IF IT'S NOT FROZEN.

SO, YOU'LL HAVE HOMEOWNERS COMPLAINING.

YOU'LL HAVE THE TOWN COMPLAINING THAT, HEY, YOU RUN IT UP, YOU'VE TRACKED MUD ALL THROUGH THE TOWN, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, THESE ARE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE IT SPILLS OUT TO.

WE HAVE ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, PRESTON SUPER SODA.

UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER PERSON WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL.

SUPER. OKAY.

GREAT FRIENDS OF MINE. RIGHT.

SO, SOMEBODY INTOXICATED LEAVES OUT OF THERE, THEY GO BUY ALCOHOL FROM THAT ESTABLISHMENT.

NOW THAT'S CAUSED CONFLICT.

SO, YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THEY TAKE ALCOHOL AND THEY GO TO THE SUPER SODA, AND THEY COME ONTO YOUR PROPERTY.

NOW IT'S A VIOLATION AND ALL THAT.

OKAY. SO THAT'S ONE GOOD QUESTION OKAY.

THAT WAS THE NEXT QUESTION I WAS GOING TO GO WITH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF SECURITY ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM BRINGING ALCOHOL IN.

YEAH, I'M GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY YES, I'M GOING TO HAVE A FORCED THEIR WRISTBANDS.

ARE YOU CHECKING IDS AT THE DOOR? IDS AT THE DOOR.

WRISTBANDS FOR EVERYBODY.

RIGHT. WELL, ONE BIG QUESTION.

SINCE WE DON'T KNOW YOU.

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN FOUND IN VIOLATION OF ANY LAWS, RULES OR REGULATIONS CONCERNING THE SALES OF ALCOHOL DISPENSING OR DISPENSING? NOT AT ALL. OKAY.

I SAID, IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YOU, YOU KNOW? QUESTION. YES.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO RULE ANYTHING OUT OR WE'RE BASICALLY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IF WE GRANT YOU THIS, THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GRANTING THIS? JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I LOOKED UP MY STREAM THIS MORNING WHEN I WAS HANGING OUT THE PAPERWORK JUST TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A LEGIT OKAY FOUNDATION. LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT, AS TREY SAID, WE DON'T WANT THIS JUST TURNING INTO SOME PARTY.

RIGHT? THAT GETS A LITTLE OUT OF HAND.

GROWNUPS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHEN YOU SAID BASICALLY KIND OF TUXEDOS AND GOWNS.

THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES ME THINK THAT THIS IS NOT JUST.

A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HANGING OUT TO HAVE A PARTY.

RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, ALSO LIKE TREY SAID, WE DON'T WANT THINGS GETTING OUT OF HAND.

YOU PROBABLY CAN EXPECT A VISIT FROM HIM SOMETIME THAT NIGHT DURING THAT EVENT.

THAT'S OKAY.

YOU KNOW, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR LATER ON THAT THIS EVENT WENT DOWNHILL QUICK.

THE LAW, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERALSBURG WAS CALLED IN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ALSO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK BECAUSE YOU WANT TO OPEN THE RESTAURANT.

SO, LIKE, I HAVE TO HAVE A CLEAN SLATE.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT CLEAN.

YEAH, YEAH. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR ME PRETTY MUCH.

AND THEN WE STILL HAVE SOME THINGS LIKE IF, IF WE DO, IF WE DO GRANT, THERE'S, THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED BEFORE WE CAN YOU, WE CAN GRANT YOU IF WE JUST VOTE TO GO THAT WAY, WE CAN GRANT YOU THE TEMPORARY LICENSE, AS WITH THE APPROVAL OF THESE OTHER ITEMS BEING TURNED IN AND EVERYTHING BEING DONE.

IN THE TIME THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE.

OKAY, SO AND IT'S NOTHING AGAINST YOU, BUT WE'VE I'VE SEEN THESE EVENTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ADVERTISED AS TUXEDO CLASSY ART THINGS. AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, FIGHTING, SHOOTINGS, STABBINGS.

I MEAN, LET'S MAKE SURE YOU WERE YOU'RE PRETTY TOUGH.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

YOU WANT TO KEEP ME AWAY FROM THAT PARTY.

BUT THAT'S WHY WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S A ONE-DAY EVENT.

IF IT WAS YOUR RESTAURANT, THERE WOULD BE SIMILAR QUESTIONS, BUT AT THAT POINT WE WOULD ALREADY KNOW YOU.

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SO GOING BACK ONTO THE HOURS, BASICALLY YOU CAN STAY OPEN.

PEOPLE CAN START LEAVING THERE ANY TIME AFTER 1 TO 2:00.

SOME MIGHT LEAVE BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT. NEW YEAR'S HITS.

THEY. YEAH.

AND WE'RE OUT THE DOOR BECAUSE WE'RE OLD AND WE'RE TIRED.

BUT AT 1:00 PRETTY MUCH NEEDS TO BE THE LAST ROUND OF ALCOHOL BY 2:00.

MOST ESTABLISHMENTS, IF THAT WAS A BEER SITTING ON A BAR THAT NEEDS TO BE DISPOSED OF AND GONE BY 2 A.M.

OKAY, NOT STILL SITTING, YOU KNOW, AT 2 A.M., DON'T START CLEANING UP.

OKAY? BY 2 A.M., IT SHOULD BE CLEANED UP.

CLEANED? YES. YEAH, YEAH.

I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING FROM THE TOWN OF FEDERALSBURG BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS EVENT.

BECAUSE THAT NOISE ORDINANCE, NOT JUST FOR MUSIC.

THEY GO OUTSIDE YELLING, TALKING, WHATEVER, THAT ALL CARRIES INTO THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

SO, I DON'T WANT TO SEE FEDERALSBURG IN HERE NEXT MONTH.

MAD AT US FOR HOSTING AN EVENT THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WAS NOT HAPPY TO SEE.

I HOPE IT'S AN EVENT THAT HAPPENS LIKE 10 P.M.

YEAH, IT USED TO BE 11, BUT THEN THEY WENT TO TEN.

IT'S ACTUALLY A DECIBEL LEVEL.

YEAH. SO. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT FEDERALSBURG THE MUSIC AND EVERYTHING IS SPECIFICALLY CAN STILL BE GOING ON JUST AS I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR AWAY, BUT I KNOW AT A CERTAIN DISTANCE, LIKE YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.

RIGHT. AND THAT THAT DOESN'T JUST INCLUDE, LIKE SAID MUSIC.

THAT INCLUDES TALKING.

I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST TALKING AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TURNS INTO A NOISE ORDINANCE.

AND YOU CAN GUARANTEE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IN THAT AREA, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THAT CALLS IN.

SO, IT'S NICE THAT WE WANT THE TOWN TO KNOW.

WE WANT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO KNOW.

LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WANT THEM IN HERE NEXT MONTH.

MAD AT US FOR APPROVING SOMETHING THAT SPILLED OVER.

SO, I'LL MAKE SURE I GO SEE BOTH DEPARTMENTS TODAY.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M KIND OF CONFUSED HERE.

WHERE DOES.

WHERE IS THE BINARY STREAM? WHERE DOES IT IN CHESTERTOWN? YOU SAID, WHERE IS IT? IN CHESTERTOWN.

YEAH. I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS IN SNOW HILL.

SNOW HILL? THE BYLAWS SAY IT'S AT 9155 AMERICAN LEGION ROAD IN CHESTERTOWN, MARYLAND.

RIGHT. SO, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH IN SNOW HILL? NO. I'M CONFUSED. YEAH, I'M CONFUSED, TOO.

YEAH, NOW I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE IN THE BYLAWS HERE.

IT SAYS NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION SHALL BE MINER'S DREAM ALLIANCE INCORPORATED.

THE PURPOSE. PURPOSE? MINERS DREAM ALLIANCE SHALL BE TO OWN, MANAGE, MAINTAIN AND PROVIDE THE PROGRAMING AT A COMMUNITY AND LEARNING CENTER LOCATED AT THE AMERICAN LEGION POST NUMBER 36, PROPERTY 9155 AMERICAN LEGION ROAD IN CHESTERTOWN, MARYLAND.

AND THAT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH BEING IN SNOW HILL, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DID I GET THE ADDRESS BECAUSE I WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR.

UNDER THE EMAIL. I JUST TOOK THE ADDRESS THAT WAS FROM HIS EMAIL PRETTY MUCH.

KIND OF JUST ASSUMED THAT THAT WAS THE ADDRESS FOR THE MONASTERY.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN KNOW WHAT I MEAN BY THAT.

WHO'S THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR? CARY HOLDEN.

OKAY. THAT'S HIS NAME. THAT'S WHO'S GOING TO.

WHO'S ONE OF THE OFFICERS OF THE ORGANIZATION? OKAY.

AND WHAT ARE YOU ADVERTISING THIS EVENT TO BE CALLED? HK GALA. HK GALA.

ONE OTHER THING. IF THEY DO APPROVE YOUR LICENSE TODAY, THAT ALCOHOL HAS TO BE PURCHASED WITHIN THE COUNTY OR DISTRIBUTOR, IT CAN'T COME FROM WORCESTER COUNTY AND TRAVEL THROUGH DELAWARE.

IT CAN'T BE.

YOU GET STOPPED IN DELAWARE WITH IT.

THEY'LL ACTUALLY SEIZE YOUR CAR, AND I'D HATE FOR THAT.

A LIST OF THE DISTRIBUTORS OR SOMETHING THAT I CAN IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND.

WELL, YEAH, THERE'S NUMEROUS ONES.

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BUT LIKE I SAID, IF YOU TAKE IT AND YOU BUY IT OVER IN SNOW HILL AND YOU COME THROUGH DELAWARE, THROUGH SEAFORD OR SOMETHING, THEY WILL TAKE YOUR CAR AND THEY WILL CHARGE YOU.

AND ALSO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S CHARGED BY THE COUNTY IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND.

OKAY. SO, I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN TO YOU.

SO, PURCHASE FROM A LICENSED DISTRIBUTOR IN MARYLAND OR FROM A RETAIL BUSINESS IN CAROLINE COUNTY, AND THEN MAKE SURE YOU KEEP COPIES OF YOUR RECEIPTS FROM YOUR PURCHASES.

OUR RETAIL BUSINESS CAN BE ANY LIQUOR STORE.

YES, IN CAROLINE COUNTY, BUT MAKE SURE YOU KEEP A RECEIPT.

SO THAT WAY, IF THE INSPECTOR COMES BY, HE'S GOING TO WANT TO SEE WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR ALCOHOL FROM.

AND THAT YOU BOUGHT IT LEGALLY THROUGH EITHER A DISTRIBUTOR OR THROUGH A LICENSED RETAILER.

RIGHT? SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR RECEIPTS THERE.

I WOULD ALSO JUST GO ONTO OUR WEBSITE AND GET A COPY OF OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS.

IT'S REAL SHORT. IT'S NOTHING TOO CRAZY, BUT JUST FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THAT, OKAY.

I'M NOT GOING TO TEST YOU ON THAT, BUT TO KEEP YOURSELF OUT OF TROUBLE, IT'S EASIER.

A LOT OF ITS VERY STANDARD STUFF.

CHECK IDS, GET YOUR ALCOHOL WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET IT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YOU REALLY. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS CHESTERTOWN ADDRESSES.

THAT'S IN THE ARTICLES OF.

NOT AT ALL. I CAN FIND THAT IN THE BYLAWS FOR ME, TOO.

THEN WHAT'S THAT? I SAID YES, THAT'S CONFUSION TO ME TOO.

YEAH. LIKE, WHY IS IT TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES? I THINK THEY ARE IN CHESTERTOWN.

THE CARY HOLDEN.

WHAT WAS HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR? OKAY, OKAY.

I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT.

CROSS OUR T'S AND DOT OUR I'S.

I THINK I JUST TOOK THE ADDRESS THAT WAS ATTACHED TO HIS EMAIL.

LIKE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT, BUT I JUST ASSUMED THAT IT.

OKAY, BECAUSE YOU CAN GO YOU CAN GO ON THEIR WEBSITE AND FIND A LOT OF INFORMATION.

THEY DON'T ACTUALLY LIST AN ADDRESS PER SE, BUT A LOT OF THEIR STUFF IS.

KENT COUNTY AND QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY.

SO, I BELIEVE THE CHESTERTOWN ADDRESS IS PROBABLY THE CORRECT ADDRESS FOR THEM.

AND THE ONLY REASON I WAS ASKING YOU ABOUT CARY HOLDEN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM IS BECAUSE IT LISTS THE PRESIDENT, THEIR VICE PRESIDENT, THEIR TREASURER. BUT HE'S NOT LISTED ANYWHERE BUT AS A PROGRAM DIRECTOR, HE WOULD PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE LISTED.

HE'S NOT A BOARD [INAUDIBLE].

WE HAVE A GARVAN POTTS ON OUR ARLEN F LEE, DR.

BENJAMIN COLE, JR., PHILIP DUTTON.

TROY BROWN, TREASURER, IS.

CHRIS GRADISON LAST NAME'S GRADISON, PRESIDENT ADRIAN SEALS AND VICE PRESIDENT IS ROBERT THOMAS SENIOR.

MY PROGRAM IS WHAT IT IS NOT LISTED NOW.

SO, THAT'S CORRECT. THE LICENSE HAS TO BE ISSUED TO AN OFFICER OR DIRECTOR OF ONE OF THE DIRECTORS OR OFFICERS OF THE NONPROFIT.

OKAY, OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS YOUR FIRST APPLICATION HAS YOUR NAME ON THERE AS THE NAME OF THE AD? YES, I WAS CONFUSED. AND THEN AND THEN ON THIS NEXT APPLICATION, IT HAS THE [INAUDIBLE] HOLDEN.

ONLY THE APOTHEGM.

HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY.

HE DIDN'T SHOW UP.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OKAY? I CAME BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO COME ANYWAY, RIGHT? SO. HE'S THE APPLICANT, BUT HE DIDN'T SHOW UP.

DO YOU HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT HE IS AN OFFICER OR DIRECTOR IN THE NONPROFIT? I CAN SEND IT TO YOU LIKE MY PHONE IS CURRENTLY DEAD.

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OKAY. MR. STEVENSON, IS THERE ALCOHOL ON THE PROPERTY NOW? THERE'S FACEBOOK POSTS OF ALCOHOL ON THE BAR.

THE BLUE BOTTLE DECORATION.

NO, THIS IS FULL.

JUST GROWN ON IT.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THERE'S A PICTURE OF YOU.

CORONA MARGARITA MIX.

AND YOU'RE ALREADY DECORATED FOR THE PARTY? I'M ALREADY DECORATED.

YOUR INSIGHT IS YOU HAVE A CHRISTMAS TREE OUT OF ROSES.

YES, I'M DECORATING FULL OF MY BUILDING.

ANYWAY. LIKE, I GOTTA PUT MY PLACE TOGETHER.

THAT'S GOING TO BE IN MY BUILDING. AND.

GROSS. AND YOU'VE ALREADY ADVERTISED THERE'S GOING TO BE ALCOHOL? NO. OKAY.

SO, EVERY TIME THAT ONE OF THE ALL FINANCED.

$45 SPECIAL GUEST COMEDIAN.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DJ THERE TOO AS WELL, RIGHT? OKAY. AND A BAND.

DJ BAND AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE SAME THING.

DJ PLAYS OFF OF IT.

CD, MP3.

YEAH, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE A DJ THEN.

OKAY. AND A COMEDIAN AND A COMEDIAN.

OKAY. SO, YOU SAID I WAS ADVERTISING ALCOHOL.

JUST LIKE I SAID. IT'S ON THE BAR.

YEAH. AND THE PICTURE? I DIDN'T ADVERTISE ANY ALCOHOL.

BECAUSE THAT BUSINESS WAS INSPECTED AND THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL ON THE PROPERTY WHEN I LEFT THERE.

SO, I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW THE ALCOHOL GOT BACK ON THE BAR.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT EVEN OPEN YET, BUT IS IT OPEN? YEAH. IF YOU'RE A LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT AND THAT ALCOHOL IS THERE.

LIKE IF I WALK IN THERE AND THAT ALCOHOL IS THERE, YOU HAVE NO RECORDS FOR THAT ALCOHOL.

I DON'T GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

LIKE, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED.

OKAY, SO IF THERE'S ALCOHOL, LET'S SAY LET'S SAY THERE'S A BEER THERE.

OKAY. A SIX PACK OF BEER.

JUST SAY YOU GUYS WERE DRINKING IT WHEN YOU WERE DECORATING, RIGHT? I WALK IN TO DO THE INSPECTION ON NEW YEAR'S, AND I FIND THAT BEER, AND IT'S NOT.

THERE'S NO RECORDS FOR IT.

THAT'S A VIOLATION.

NOT WITH ME.

NOT SERVING. SO, I CAN'T BE IN THERE AND THERE CAN'T HAVE ANY ALCOHOL THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY RECORDS FOR ON THIS.

YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. AND SEE, WHEN THAT BUSINESS CLOSED, I DID AN INSPECTION.

RIGHT. MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL IN IT.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

QUALIFIES OKAY.

THAT'S COUNTY RULES AND STATE LAW.

IF YOU HAVE NO RECORDS FOR YOUR ALCOHOL, THE COMPTROLLER AND THE STATE ALCOHOL COMMISSION GOES BACK FIVE YEARS.

WE ONLY GO BACK TWO YEARS.

RIGHT. SO, ONCE YOU ACTUALLY GET YOUR LICENSE, YOU'LL SEE THAT MORE.

BUT IF I GO THERE AND LIKE SAID, SOMEBODY TAKES A BEER FROM.

PRESENT SUPERSET OVER THERE, OR IF YOU LEFT SOMETHING IN THERE AND I FIND IT.

THEN YOU'RE IN VIOLATION.

SO, THESE ARE THE THINGS WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT RULES AND RECORDS BOOK THAT WE HAVE.

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? UM.

BUT YEAH, JUST MAKE SURE IF YOU DO ANY OF THAT ALCOHOL THAT'S ON THERE IS TAKEN OUT.

YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY ALCOHOL.

THAT FACEBOOK POST SAYS OTHERWISE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S FACEBOOK, SO.

BUT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT BUSINESS.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BAR. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PAINT JOB THAT YOU'VE PUT IN THERE.

SO, BECAUSE THAT BAR WAS ADDED THE LAST TIME THAT THEY OPENED.

SO, BUT JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO YOU.

THAT'S ALL.

CARY HOLDEN IS THE APPLICANT.

CORRECT.

SO. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN I HAVE ANSWERS.

AND. WE CAN'T.

I MEAN, WHAT CAN WE DO IF THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE? IT'S UP TO YOU.

IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING A LICENSE WITHOUT THE APPLICANT TO ASK QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT, IS THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON THERE? THE LICENSE, THEY'RE ULTIMATELY THE LICENSE HOLDER.

YOU'RE OPENING UP THE BUSINESS, RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT APPLYING FOR THIS LICENSE.

WRITE AND APPLY FOR YOUR LICENSE CAN.

BUT I CAN'T APPLY. YOU'RE NOT WELL, YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE RIGHT PART OF THE.

YEAH, BUT THIS DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO REALLY DO WITH THE BUSINESS.

THIS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY SEPARATE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I SAY. THIS IS THIS IS WHAT? THIS SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S A NONPROFIT, RIGHT? THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NONPROFIT.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THE.

PERSON THAT'S APPLYING FOR THE LICENSE ISN'T HERE.

OKAY.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW HE'S AN OFFICER OR DIRECTOR IN THAT PHONE'S DEAD, BECAUSE ALL THAT'S LISTED ON THEIR WEB

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AND THE PROBLEM WILL BE IS IF YOU DO FIND A IF THERE IS A VIOLATION THAT OCCURS.

CAREY COULD SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

UM, WITHOUT SPEAKING TO HIM.

I THINK THE BOARD'S CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING TO ISSUE A LICENSE TO A PERSON THAT THEY'VE NEVER TALKED TO OR BEEN ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS, WHO'S GOING TO BE THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON WHO THE LICENSE IS BEING ISSUED? CORRECT. WE CAN'T ISSUE A LICENSE TO JUST SOMEBODY HAVING A PARTY.

WE GOT TO ISSUE IT HAS TO BE TO A NONPROFIT.

AND WE'RE SEEING THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION OR WHATEVER FOR THE NONPROFIT.

THAT'S WHY I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE A MICROSCOPE, BUT WE CAN'T GIVE, I MEAN, WE LEGALLY CAN'T GIVE A LICENSE TO ANYTHING UNLESS IT'S A NONPROFIT.

THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION.

AREN'T THEY? YOU KNOW, THE ADDRESS.

THE CHESTERTOWN DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH SNOW HILL AND THEN THERE'S NO SIGNATURES ON IT.

AND THEN THE APPLICATION, THE PERSON THAT'S APPLYING WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THAT.

INCORPORATE. WE'VE NOT SEEN THEM.

WE'VE YOU KNOW, THEY'VE NEVER COME HERE TO APPLY FOR THE LICENSE.

SO, I DON'T, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

LIKE I SAID, I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS, AND I JUST, UM.

I MEAN, ANYBODY DOING ANYTHING FOR A NONPROFIT.

I APPLAUD IT, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION AND NOT ENOUGH.

HERE. FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GRANT IT.

WHAT I MEAN, LEGALLY, WE CAN'T, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE CAN'T.

I KNOW, LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO.

GOLDSBORO FIRE COMPANY WASN'T HERE, BUT WE CAN GRANT THEIRS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A CONTINUATION OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, AND THEY'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING BRAND NEW AT A FACILITY THAT.

ISN'T OPEN.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

FROM THE LANDOWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNER SAYING THAT YES, I'M LEASING THIS PROPERTY.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

ANYTHING ON THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION ON THE NONPROFIT.

AND AS MR. BROOKE SAID. THE APPLICANTS.

NOT HERE.

HE'S NOT HERE TO STATE HIS CASE.

AND IT'S VERY SAD.

VERY SAD FOR YOU AND VERY SAD FOR.

THE EVENT.

I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO.

YEAH, BUT THIS IS EVENT.

LIKE I SAID, I'VE SEEN IT A HUNDRED TIMES.

I'M NOT SAYING WITH THIS EVENT. I'M NOT SAYING WITH ANY EVENT, BUT YOU HAVE THE RIVER THERE.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE ISSUES OF THAT.

YOU HAVE THE TOWN, YOU HAVE CITIZENS.

AND MAYBE IF WE HAD.

THE LICENSEE OR ANY OF THAT ACTUALLY HERE.

THAT WOULD HELP.

BUT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO BE ANSWERED ON MY SIDE, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

AND VERY UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU, IT IS.

THIS IS ALL BRAND NEW TO YOU.

AND IF YOU WERE, IF YOU HAD I'M JUST I'M JUST I'M JUST HERE.

BUT MAN, I NEEDED IT BECAUSE I SEE WHAT I'M UP AGAINST.

IF, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IF YOU HAD GOTTEN HERE LAST MONTH, THEN YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TIME TO GET STUFF READY FOR THIS MONTH AND HAVE EVERYTHING PREPARED A LITTLE.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO EVENT REGARDLESS.

IT'S A GALA.

IT'S A GROWN-UP AFFAIR, SO ALCOHOL IS NOT GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK THE EVENT.

I JUST TRY TO SAY IF I CAN GET IT.

SURE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO NO, WE UNDERSTAND, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN THE FUTURE AND HELPING YOU AS YOU AS YOU PROGRESS WITH, WITH THIS OPENING OF THE RESTAURANT.

UM, BUT THESE ARE STILL RULES THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW.

YOU OPEN THE RESTAURANT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DO GET READY FOR YOUR RESTAURANT, YOU REACH OUT TO THE REACH OUT TO THE BOARD ADMINISTRATOR.

QUICK QUESTION. IF I HAVE AN EVENT SPACE, DOES THAT CHANGE WHAT THE RULES OR NOT? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN, YOU CAN'T BE ENCLOSED TO OPEN A BAR.

[00:55:02]

OKAY. LET'S JUST SAY I JUST WANT TO DO A TO GO SIDE, AND I JUST RENT THE OTHER SIDE OUT LIKE A TO GO RESTAURANT OR TO GO LIKE BAR, LIKE A LIQUOR STORE TO GO FOOD.

OKAY. DON'T CARE ABOUT LIQUOR.

OKAY. SELL FOOD THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH US.

RIGHT. SO AS FAR AS THE LIQUOR ON THE BAR.

YOU WANT ME LIKE YOU WANT ME LIKE, COULD I HAVE A MARGARITA? THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU HAVING THAT IN THERE RIGHT NOW.

NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT AT ALL.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR EVENT.

OKAY, OKAY, AND I WALK IN THERE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAD AT ME BECAUSE I'M GOING TO WRITE YOU A VIOLATION.

RIGHT NOW, NO. BUT IF I WALK IN THERE AND IT'S ON THE BAR, IT'S BEHIND THE BAR.

IT'S IN THE ESTABLISHMENT AT ALL.

YES. YEAH, OF COURSE I'M NOT.

OKAY. I'M NOT. THAT'S.

IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT I SAW THAT ON FACEBOOK.

THEN YOU'D SAY, WELL, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT EARLIER? SO THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU THAT I TRY TO GIVE YOU HELPFUL.

THAT'S MY THING.

I DON'T GET PAID ON HOW MANY VIOLATIONS I BRING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THE BETTER THAT THE BUSINESSES DO, THE EASIER MY JOB IS, THE EASIER THEIR JOB IS AND THE BETTER THE COMMUNITY IS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO HELP OUT.

THAT'S WHY I TEACH TIPS AS WELL.

THERE'S A LOT OF LAWS.

LIKE I SAID, THE COUNTY HAS A VERY SMALL SET OF RULES, BUT THE STATE HAS BOOKS AND BOOKS ON LAWS.

I MEAN, IT IS VERY, VERY EXTENSIVE AND EVERY COUNTY IS DIFFERENT.

SO HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET MY LIQUOR LICENSE? BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN WANT A LIQUOR LICENSE.

I DON'T EVEN WANT TO KEEP GOING THROUGH THIS EVERY TIME I'M HAVING AN EVENT.

I DON'T WANT TO. LIKE, I JUST WANT TO GET MY LICENSE.

LIKE, I JUST WANT TO GET MY LIQUOR LICENSE.

I DON'T WANT TO GO IN FRONT OF NOBODY AND TALK EVERY TIME I'M TRYING TO HAVE A DRINK.

IT'S ALMOST THE SAME PROCESS.

A LITTLE BIT MORE PAPERWORK ABOUT THE SAME PROCESS.

THERE'S MORE PAPERWORK. THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH. YOU'LL HAVE YOUR APPLICATION THAT YOU'LL COMPLETE.

I AIN'T GOT TO WORRY ABOUT NOBODY ELSE.

IT'LL BE. YOU GUYS WILL BE DEALING WITH ME.

THAT'S RATHER THAT'S WHAT I SAY.

YOU'RE LEARNING.

IS IT TOO MUCH? AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S AGAINST ME.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

YEAH. PRETTY MUCH. AND WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE AGAINST WHAT'S GOING.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE AGAINST ANYBODY.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.

WE'RE DOING THE PROPER THINGS.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THE STATE ALSO, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE DID SOMETHING AND WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE RULES OF THAT IS WRITTEN BY THE STATE, IT COMES BACK TO US.

UM, AND NO, IT'S NOT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, NONE OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS AGAINST YOU WHATSOEVER.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE JUST THE ONE THAT'S HERE.

UM, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT SHOWED UP.

YEAH, YOU'RE, I MEAN, YOU TOOK THE, YOU KNOW, YOU TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO BE HERE, COMING HERE LOOKING CRAZY, LIKE.

NO, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT.

LOOK, THIS IS NOT AN EASY PROCESS.

TO ME, EVEN THE LIQUOR LICENSE, BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND CHECKS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE STATE REQUIRES TO BE DONE.

UH, IT TO ME, IT'S NOT A QUICK, EASY, FAST THING.

BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY A RESPONSIBILITY.

YOU KNOW, ALCOHOL, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HANDLE ALCOHOL OR CHILDREN OR PEOPLE UNDER 21, IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.

YOU'RE LITERALLY SELLING ALCOHOL.

THEY'RE LEAVING THE PROPERTY.

AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK ON TO THE BUSINESS.

AND ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, I'M KIND OF GETTING THE FEELING FROM YOU WHEN YOU OPEN A RESTAURANT, YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LIQUOR LICENSE, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME, LIKE THROUGH ALL THESE HOOPS, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S A HEADACHE.

YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I'D RATHER JUST DEAL WITH THE FOOD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? RIGHT. BUT MOST, MOST OF THE TIME, WITH YOUR TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT, IT WILL BE YOUR ALCOHOL WILL BE FOR PEOPLE THAT SIT DOWN, RIGHT? NOT. OH.

I CALLED YOU ON MY WAY HOME.

I ORDERED DINNER FOR ME AND MY WIFE.

OH, BY THE WAY, I WANT A BOTTLE OF CHARDONNAY TO GO WHILE I'M GOING OUT OF THERE.

UM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY THAT THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GO.

IT'S MORE FOR YOUR CLIENTELE THAT'S SITTING DOWN, EATING YOUR DINNER.

SO, MR. STEVENSON, IF YOU WANT.

TO COME IN AND TALK TO BETH AND ME.

WE CAN SIT DOWN AND GIVE YOU ALL THE PAPERWORK, GO THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS YOU'LL BE REQUIRED TO DO FOR A PERMANENT LIQUOR LICENSE, AND THAT WAY. WE CAN GIVE YOU THE BOARD'S MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEADLINE DATES ARE TO GET EVERYTHING IN AND WHAT THE PROCESS WILL BE.

FOR WHEN YOU'RE READY TO APPLY.

AND WHAT ELSE YOU CAN DO IS I KNOW TREY WILL OFFER TO COME OUT.

TREY ALREADY BEEN OUT.

TREY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU CAN COME OUT AND HE CAN GIVE YOU A LIST OF, HEY, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO. THIS IS WHAT YOU THIS IS WHERE YOUR LICENSE HAS TO BE.

YOU KNOW, YOUR LICENSE HAS TO BE DISPLAYED.

THIS IS HE CAN GIVE YOU THAT LIST OR WHATEVER.

SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT UP AGAINST THE WALL.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GOT TO DO? I TEACH I TEACH THE TIPS CLASSES.

I GO OVER THE COUNTY RULES.

I GO OVER HOW TIPS WANTS TO BE.

[01:00:01]

I GO OUT, I DO THE INSPECTION FIRST.

INSPECTION IS JUST A LEARNING THING.

HEY, MAKE SURE YOU CORRECT THIS BY THE NEXT TIME.

THE NEXT TIME WE GO OUT, HEY, WE EXPECT IT TO BE CORRECTED IF YOU INSPECT IT WHEN YOU COME THROUGH.

BECAUSE I CHECKED FOOD SERVICE FACILITY COMING.

SO, LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU INSPECTING? LIKE? OKAY, I DO THE ALCOHOL.

I'M THE ALCOHOL INSPECTOR.

SO, WHAT ARE YOU COMING AND LOOKING FOR? I MAKE SURE THAT YOUR TIPS TRAINED.

YOU HAVE A TIPS TRAINED PERSON THERE.

I MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE RECORDS.

EMPLOYEE RECORDS, UM, YOUR ALCOHOL RECORDS.

THERE'S SEVERAL INSTANCES.

UH, DO YOU HAVE A MENU? UM, DO YOU HAVE PROPER SIGNAGE? UH, ARE YOU SERVING IN THE HOURS THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SERVE? UM, I TEST YOU WITH UNDER 21 PEOPLE.

UM, THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS I DO.

I WORK WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL; I WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

I WORK WITH THE ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND CANNABIS COMMISSION AS WELL.

SO, I DO REALIZE THAT.

THAT YOU DO FEEL AS A BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS CHECKED.

AND WE DO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT SINCE IT'S A SMALLER COUNTY, WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY BUSINESSES, SO SOMETIMES YOU'RE NOT CHECKED AS MANY AS OTHER PLACES.

BUT WHEN INSTANCES HAPPEN, THAT BRINGS ME OUT MORE TIMES.

UM, SO YOU'RE CHECKED BY ME, YOU'RE CHECKED BY THE FOOD INSPECTOR, YOU'RE CHECKED BY THE STATE ALCOHOL TOBACCO COMMISSION.

UM, SAME THING WITH LIQUOR STORES.

SO, EVERYBODY, I HAVE A LIST THAT I GO DOWN WITH EVERYBODY.

IT'S COMPUTER GENERATED AND EVERYTHING.

YOU'LL HAVE TO KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS.

YEAH. FROM WHERE YOU PURCHASE ALL YOUR ALCOHOL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP YOUR REPORTS AND EVERYTHING.

BECAUSE WHEN HE COMES IN, HE'S GOING TO ASK TO SEE THEM BECAUSE THE ALCOHOL HAS TO MATCH THE RECEIPTS.

THAT'S WHY I SAID IF YOU IF I CAME IN AND YOU SHOWED ME RECEIPTS FOR.

THAT'S A BIG THING. LIKE YOU HAD 26 CASES OF BUD LIGHT.

BUT I FOUND THAT YOU HAD CORONA IN THERE.

WHERE DID THE CORONA COME FROM? AND YOU SAY, WELL, IT WAS HERE WHEN I GOT HERE.

WELL, I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T THERE WHEN I GOT THERE.

UM, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY YOU COULD GO TO DELAWARE AND BRING ALCOHOL FROM DELAWARE, AND YOU'VE AVOIDED TAXES.

YOU GO TO.

SO, I CAN'T HAVE LIQUOR ON THE PREMISES AT ALL RIGHT NOW.

YOU CAN HAVE ALCOHOL THERE, BUT YOU CAN'T SELL IT.

YOU CAN'T BE SELLING IT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY I TOLD YOU THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

I SAID BUT HAVE THAT EVENT AND I COME, AND THAT ALCOHOL IS THERE ON THE PREMISE.

THAT'S A VIOLATION BY ME AND THE STATE OF MARYLAND.

BUT IT'S LIKE, MAN, WHY WOULD YOU COME IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ALCOHOL SERVED AT THAT POINT? BE FINE. BUT YOU'RE HERE FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE, RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT IF I DIDN'T, IF I LET YOU GO AND I SAID, HEY, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

AND THEN I COME AND GIVE YOU A VIOLATION, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAD.

WHY? WHY DIDN'T I TELL YOU WHEN YOU WERE HERE? RIGHT? OR I GO THERE, DO AN INSPECTION, SMILE ON YOUR FACE, AND THEN I WRITE YOU A VIOLATION.

THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAD AT ME, RIGHT? SO MAYBE YOU CAN JUST COME IN ANY TIME AND DO AN INSPECTION ANYTIME.

I CAN SEARCH ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY.

SAME. YEP. RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT. WELL, IF YOU GET A LIQUOR LICENSE, IF I GET A LIQUOR LICENSE.

OKAY. I'M JUST.

I'M JUST. I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, I SAID, HEY, IF THEY DECIDE TO GIVE YOU ONE TODAY, COOL.

IF NOT, HEY, YOU KNOW IT FOR WHEN YOU OPEN THE EVENT WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR STORE.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF BUSINESS.

I WANT TO SEE BUSINESS. I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE FEDERALSBURG EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO AND HAVE A GOOD TIME.

I DO. SO, I COULDN'T GIVE AWAY ALCOHOL.

NO. IF YOU HAD A LICENSE? NO. NOT EVEN AT A PRIVATE EVENT? NO. NO TOASTING AT 12:00.

NO CHAMPAGNE OR ANYTHING.

SO, AND THEN THAT IT FALLS OUT OF MY HAND AND GOES INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S HANDS.

RIGHT. SO, AND THAT'S AN ARRESTABLE OFFENSE, RIGHT? I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS.

YEAH. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, HEY, YOU CAN CALL ME.

NO, YOU'RE IN LEARNING MODE.

YOU CAN CALL ME ANY TIME.

THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN, I TELL YOU.

YEAH. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE.

THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

IT'S ONLINE COPY, BUT THERE'S ALSO ONLINE CALL THAT PHONE NUMBER ANYTIME YOU WANT, AND IT WAS A MESS.

AND I BELIEVE IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.

THERE'S A LOT TO IT. AND IT'S NOT JUST HERE.

IT'S ON THE STATE LEVEL. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE'S LIVES.

AND I MEAN, YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN YOU SAID, CAN I GIVE IT AWAY? YOU CAN NEVER ADVERTISE FOR FREE ALCOHOL.

OR GIVE FREE OR GIVE FREE.

YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T ADVERTISE OR ANYTHING, SO YOU JUST ALWAYS GOT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

LIKE IF YOU'RE ADVERTISING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN'T ADVERTISE FREE ALCOHOL LIKE A GIVEAWAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

LIKE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT BEER PONG AND BARS AND LIQUOR STORES.

IT'S ILLEGAL. IT'S ILLEGAL. ANY GAME TO PROMOTE DRINKING IS ILLEGAL.

THERE'S A LEARNING PROCESS, AND I'M SURE THAT EVER CHANGING FOR THE COUNTY IS THIS SMALL.

THE LAW, THE MARYLAND STATE ONE, THAT LAW.

AND I SWEAR THAT YOU WOULD SPEND THE NEXT TWO YEARS READING THAT THING.

UM, BUT THAT'S.

I'D RATHER HELP YOU THAN IF I WAS YOU.

[01:05:02]

I'VE GOT TO BRING IN HERE, AND EVERYBODY'S MAD.

I DON'T WANT THAT. I WANT YOU TO SUCCEED.

SO, IF YOU DO OPEN YOUR BUSINESS, YOU WANT TO CALL ME? I'LL COME OUT AND WE'LL GO OVER IT.

YOU KNOW WHAT THINGS I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT YOU KNOW.

WHAT HAVE I SEEN IN OTHER BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA AND IN THE COUNTY THAT THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH AS WELL? SO, WE DON'T WANT BUSINESSES TO FAIL.

WE WANT BUSINESSES TO SUCCEED AND PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO SOMEWHERE, DRINK RESPONSIBLY.

AND I WANT YOU TO COME UP.

YEAH. HEY, I'M RIGHT UPSTAIRS IS MY PHONE NUMBER.

CALL ME AND I'LL COME OUT.

DID Y'ALL GET MY LICENSE NOW? SO, MR. STEVENSON, YOU CAN GO ON OUR WEBSITE AND PRINT OFF A COPY OF THE BOARD'S RULES AND REGULATIONS.

SO, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE, YOU CAN.

AND IF YOU WANT TO COME IN AND TALK TO BETH AND I, WE CAN SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO YOU'LL KNOW EVERYTHING YOU NEED AND GOT TO KEEP YOU ALL CLOSED.

OKAY? I KEEP YOU GUYS IN YOUR GOOD GRACES.

YOU HAVE GOT TO.

SO EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIPS COURSE AND YOU JUST WANT TO SIT IN ON ONE AND NOT BE CERTIFIED, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

YEAH, BECAUSE I NEED TO SIT DOWN TOO, BECAUSE I MIGHT NOT ALWAYS HAVE A BAR.

YEAH. IF YOU WANT THE COURSE, HEY, I'LL TEACH IT.

AND IF YOU JUST WANT TO SIT IN, I'LL TEACH IT.

OKAY. NO PROBLEM, MAN.

BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT.

BAD NEWS FIRST.

BAD NEWS FIRST.

WE'RE GOING TO.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE THE LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THE GALA [INAUDIBLE] FOR NEW YEARS.

MAINLY BECAUSE THE APPLICANT NOT SHOWING UP.

WE HAD A LIST OF THINGS THAT IF WE APPROVED IT, WE WERE GOING TO ASK TO GET TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY GET YOUR LICENSE.

BUT WITH THE APPLICANT NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE IT.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE BUT TO DISAPPROVE IT.

I SECOND THAT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE DISAPPROVE THIS TEMPORARY LICENSE FOR MINORS DREAM ALLIANCE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL APPROVED.

ALL OPPOSED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

I APPRECIATE IT. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

WE REALLY DO. WE REALLY DO.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BUSINESS TURN INTO SOMETHING, MAN, I REALLY DO.

I DON'T HAVE A WORRY IN THE WORLD.

I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT LITTLE TOWN OUT.

GOOD. YEAH.

SO, DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THEM AND TO GET YOUR BALL ROLLING ON YOUR APPLICATION.

HOW LONG WOULD THAT PROCESS GENERALLY? SO, ONCE YOU GET ALL OF YOUR PAPERWORK TOGETHER AND YOU GET SUBMITTED, IT'S REQUIRED TO BE IN 30 DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING DATE.

WE ADVERTISE THAT IN THE NEWSPAPER.

YOU'LL COME IN FOR YOUR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD.

AND DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU HAVE ALL YOUR DOCUMENTS WHEN YOU COME IN OR YOU STILL HAVE A REMAINING FEW, MAYBE YOU'RE WAITING ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A FOOD PERMIT, OR TO GET YOUR SALES AND USE TAX LICENSE OR BUSINESS LICENSE.

WE DON'T ALWAYS EXPECT YOU TO HAVE THOSE WHEN YOU COME IN.

IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE. THE MORE YOU HAVE, THE BETTER.

NOT COMING IN UNTIL I HAVE EVERY.

SO, THEY WOULD GIVE YOU AN APPROVAL EVEN THOUGH THAT NOTHING OR NOBODY.

YEAH. SO, WHAT THEY WOULD DO WOULD BE IF THEY APPROVE IT, YOU MEET ALL THE CRITERIA.

THEY WOULD GIVE YOU 30 DAYS TO FINISH UP THE DOCUMENTS AND GET YOUR LICENSE.

YEAH. AWESOME.

GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU AND I HOPE THE GALA STILL IS A HIT AND EVERYBODY HAS A GREAT TIME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD, I KNOW, BUT I MEAN WE DO SINCERELY HOPE THAT IT'S A FUN A GOOD FUNDRAISER.

THANK YOU. I SAID, SOMETIMES THERE'S WAYS THAT YOU KNOW.

HEY, SAY GET AROUND IT.

BUT THERE'S WAYS WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.

AND WE'VE DONE THOSE THINGS.

BUT NOT CERTAIN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.

RUNNING A ONE-NIGHT EVENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK NO MATTER WHERE YOU'RE AT.

DELAWARE, MARYLAND, PENNSYLVANIA.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. I KNEW THE ANSWER WHEN I CAME IN HERE, AND I STILL HAD TO.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE, A LOT OF TIMES THEY LIKE IF THEY THROW A ONE-DAY EVENT, THEY'RE GOING TO LIKE RENT A HALL, THE VFW, THE LEGION'S, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE AND THEN YOU'RE RENTING THE HALL.

BUT THAT TAKES AWAY FROM PROFIT, TOO.

AND YOU'RE ALSO TRYING TO GET PEOPLE AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO YOU I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO HAVE IT THERE BECAUSE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SAY, HEY, WHEN HE OPENS UP, WE'RE COMING BACK.

[01:10:01]

SO. LIKE TREY WAS SAYING, IT WOULD BE THIS.

THIS WOULD BE A GOOD EVENT TO HAVE HAD AT ONE OF THE FIREHOUSES.

MIGHT ALREADY BEEN BOOKED UP, SO IT MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE.

I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I GOT MY OWN VENUE THIS TIME, I'M TIRED.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S GENERALLY HOW I GO ABOUT DOING THINGS.

YEAH, RENT OUT THE VENUES, BUT ONCE YOU GET YOUR OWN VENUE IT'S DIFFERENT YOU WANT TO USE.

YEAH. WHETHER IT'S FOOD OR ALCOHOL THERE'S STEPS AND RULES EVERYWHERE MAN.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S JUST LIVING IN TODAY'S WORLD.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

SURE. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING YOU NEED, MAN, JUST CALL THAT NUMBER.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE SUPER SODA CENTER

[Super Soda Center Federalsburg- Request to Remove Licensee]

DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THAT TODAY? FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WHAT THEY WERE.

A LETTER IN THEIR PACKAGE.

THE LETTER SHOULD BE. SO, YOU HAD REQUESTED A LETTER.

FROM THE LICENSE HOLDER THAT WAS WISHING TO BE REMOVED.

IS IT IN THE BOOKMARKS? I CAN'T FIND IT. DO YOU HAVE IT? YEAH. I'M ON IT NOW, GREG.

UH, READ GOOD WAYS.

THAT IS TOWARDS THE BACK OF PAGE 33.

I'M GETTING THERE. THERE IT IS.

NO LONGER A MEMBER OF THE LLC.

WELL, WE FINALLY GOT SOMETHING IN THERE.

YEAH. THEN WITH MR. THORNTON'S LETTERHEAD ON IT.

SO, WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE HIS REMOVAL TO APPROVE THE REMOVAL.

OKAY. LET ME MAKE IT.

YEAH. UM, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMOVAL OF MR. BROWN FROM THE SUPER CENTER OF FEDERALSBURG.

UM, BEANS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER WITH HIS SIGNATURE AND ON THE LETTERHEAD OF MISTER THORNTON'S LAW OFFICE.

I SECOND THAT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THAT WE HAVE APPROVED THE REMOVAL OF MARVIN TYRONE BROWN.

FROM THE SUPER SODA CENTER.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. NEXT, WE HAVE THE CAROLINE COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY

[Caroline County Historical Society- Event Date Change]

THE CHANGE, THE DATE.

LOOKS LIKE. YEAH.

SO, KATHY MACKEL REACHED OUT.

YOU HAD APPROVED THEM FOR A ONE-DAY TEMPORARY LICENSE FOR THEIR ANNUAL CHRISTMAS PARTY.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAD SOME ILLNESSES.

SO, ACTUALLY IT WAS DUE TO THE ILLNESS OF THEIR CATERER.

SO, THEY HAD TO CANCEL THE EVENT, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER THE 8TH, AND THEY'VE RESCHEDULED IT FOR JANUARY 27TH.

SO JUST NO CHANGE.

NO CHANGES, JUST A CHANGE.

DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT OR JUST TO APPROVE THE DATE CHANGE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR A DIFFERENT DATE OR A RAIN DATE OR ANYTHING.

SO, AND THIS IS ONE THAT JUST IT'S CONTINUALLY HAPPENING EVERY YEAR.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, DATE CHANGE FROM DECEMBER 8TH TO JANUARY 27TH OF 2024 FOR THE CAROLINE COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY'S ANNUAL CHRISTMAS PARTY.

I SECOND IT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THE DATE CHANGE FOR THE.

CARROLL COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY'S CHRISTMAS PARTY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SO MOVED. OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS AN INSPECTOR'S REPORT.

[Inspector's Report]

NO, THAT'S FOR THAT'S GOING FURTHER.

SO I WON'T GET TOO MUCH INTO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW, CANNABIS COMING OUR WAY.

NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

I FIGURED AS SOON AS THEY AS SOON AS THEY PASSED IT AND EVERYTHING I SAID THAT'S GOING TO GET THROWN ON THE LIQUOR BOARD.

I CAN SEE THAT COMING.

YEAH. IT'S DEFINITELY COMBINED WITH THE ALCOHOL COMMISSION AT THE STATE LEVEL.

[01:15:01]

I FIGURED IT WAS COMING THIS WAY, BUT IT'S NOT THAT YOU KNOW OF YET.

NOT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY INVESTIGATION, BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT ONE OF OUR ESTABLISHMENTS WAS NOT ONE OF OUR ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT SOMEONE LOCAL THAT'S BEEN DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY POSSIBLY SHOULDN'T, ALLEGEDLY.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE FURTHER INVESTIGATED, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK WITH ME ON THAT.

AND WE'LL PROBABLY BRING YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THAT REALLY TERRIBLY SOON.

UM, ALSO, I'VE DONE INSPECTIONS AT U-5, THE SMITHVILLE AND DOVER BRIDGE LOCATION, THE COW BARN, THE LEGION, LUCKY CORNER, SHORT STOP, AND PRESTON MIKE'S CORNER LIQUOR STORE, MOMMY'S PRESTON SUPER SODA, DENTON LIQUORS, RED LIGHT, UH, LICK THEIR TASTING BAR AND BEVERAGE.

GOOSE CREEK SUNSET PEDDLERS WHO HAVE ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WILL BE CLOSING.

THEY HAVE TURNED IN THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE.

I'VE WORKED WITH THEM A COUPLE OF DAYS THIS MONTH ON THAT.

UH, SO ALL THE ALCOHOL HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THERE ORIGINALLY FOR OUR FALL FESTIVAL.

UH, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, I WENT TO ALSO THE RIDGELEY WINTERFEST THAT HAD.

A COUPLE OF STATE PERMITS THAT WE WORKED ON TOGETHER.

SO, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, JUST CONTINUALLY GOING ON, I ALSO TALKED TO TIPS.

I TOLD YOU PREVIOUSLY THAT TIPS WAS BOUGHT OUT.

THEY'VE HAD SOME ISSUES.

I HAD A VERY IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH THEM, UH, AND GOT ALL MY TIPS CARDS, GOT EVERYBODY FOR EAR END BROUGHT BACK IN.

I APOLOGIZE TO THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK SO LONG, BUT EVERYBODY DOES NOW HAVE THEIR CARDS.

AND I EXPLAINED TO THEM, THIS IS THE PROCESS, AND THIS IS THE LENGTHS THAT I WENT TO GO GET THOSE CARDS, WHICH TOOK QUITE A FEW HOURS.

SO, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY FOR CAROLINE COUNTY, BUT THAT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY.

A FEW OF THE COUNTIES IN MARYLAND HAVE DONE IT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST STAYING WITH TIPS, BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S FINANCIAL.

YEAH. SOME OF THE LARGER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE A LOT BIGGER STAFF HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK SUCCESSFULLY WITH THE ATC TO GET THEIR OWN ALCOHOL AWARENESS TRAINING COURSE APPROVED.

WHO'S THE ONE THAT MONTGOMERY, I THINK.

IS IT? WHO TEACHES THAT ONE? IT'S NOT MONTGOMERY.

COME ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

YEAH, IT'S SOMEBODY OVER THERE.

BUT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN APPROVED COURSE THROUGH THE ATC, AND IT IS A LOT OF WORK TO GET THAT APPROVED, TO GET SOMETHING APPROVED.

BUT ALSO, I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT MR. PLUTCHIK TOOK MY CLASS AND PASSED.

SO, HE NOW HAS HIS CARD.

SO YES, TREY'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE ATC WITH WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH.

THE TOWN OF RIDGELEY WAS.

ADVERTISING THAT THEY WERE HAVING FOOD TRUCKS AND ALCOHOL AT THEIR WINTERFEST EVENT.

WE WERE LIKE, WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE A LICENSE.

AND IT WAS ODD THAT THEY DIDN'T APPLY BECAUSE THEY HAD JUST COME IN FOR THAT ONE RECENT EVENT.

THEY WERE HERE THEY WEREN'T AWARE THEY NEEDED A LICENSE FOR.

AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, THAT'S JUST ODD THAT THEY WERE JUST HERE, AND THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR THAT LICENSE AS WELL.

SO, BETH REACHED OUT TO THEM, AND THEY HAD SAID WE DIDN'T NEED A LICENSE.

WHEN WE CONTACTED THE BOARD'S OFFICE LAST YEAR, WE WERE TOLD, BECAUSE THEY WERE USING THEIR OWN LICENSE, THAT THE TOWN DIDN'T HAVE TO GET ONE.

WELL, OKAY, SO WHAT IT TURNED OUT IS ANY BREWERY, DISTILLERY OR WINERY.

THEY ARE LICENSED THROUGH THE STATE, AND THEY ARE PERMITTED TO DO CERTAIN OFF PREMISE PROMOTIONAL EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT UNDER THAT STATE LICENSE. AND A COUPLE YEARS BACK, A LOT OF THE COUNTIES WERE COMPLAINING TO THE STATE THAT THESE WINERIES ARE COMING INTO THE COUNTY.

THEY'RE HOLDING EVENTS, THEY'RE ADVERTISING ALCOHOL.

WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OUR LOCAL INSPECTORS DON'T KNOW ARE THEY APPROVED BY YOU OR ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THIS? SO IT WAS CREATING PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE HAD NO NOTIFICATION FROM THE STATE.

SO THEY DID WORK THAT OUT WITH THE ATC THAT THEY SUPPLY US EVERY I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WEEKLY OR MONTHLY OR SOMETIMES IT'S EVERY OTHER WEEK THEY'LL SEND OUT A LIST OF ALL EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE ON RECORD, BECAUSE I GUESS THE THOSE BREWERIES, WINERIES, DISTILLERIES, THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE STATE WHEN THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT.

AND THEN THAT LIST, WE CAN JUST GO IN THERE BY COUNTY AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE.

AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THEM IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

SO, IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL WHOEVER THOSE, BECAUSE IT ENDED UP BEING A BREWERY AND A A BREWERY AND A WINERY AND THEY WEREN'T ON ANY OF THE LIST WE'D RECEIVED BECAUSE WE HADN'T GOTTEN ANYBODY FROM CAROLINE COUNTY.

SO, TREY WENT OUT AND CALLED THE ATC BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF LAST MINUTE.

WE HAD TO CALL, AND I THINK THE PERSON WHO WAS THEIR DATABASE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

THEY WERE OUT OF TOWN. WHATEVER WAS HAPPENING, THEY COULDN'T VERIFY THAT DAY.

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IT'S UNDER THE STATE.

BUT TREY DID STOP BY AND THE WINERY, THEY WERE THERE.

IT WAS BROKEN. SPOKE WINERY, THEY WERE THERE WITH THEIRS.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE BREWERY? UH, CHECKER POINT.

IT'S BASICALLY A SPOT OR CHECKER POINT.

THEY WERE THERE, BUT CHECKER POINT THEMSELVES WEREN'T THERE.

THEY HAD HIRED ANOTHER PERSON TO SERVE FOR THEM, WHICH WAS KIND OF WE WEREN'T SURE ABOUT.

SO TREY CIRCLED BACK THE FOLLOWING WEEK WITH THE ATC.

TURNS OUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE NOTIFICATION FOR EITHER OF THOSE EVENTS.

THEY WEREN'T THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR CAROLINE.

AND THEN THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE PERSON WHO WAS SERVING FOR CHECKERSPOT, WHICH WAS DELMARVA CRAFT, WHO YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THAT NAME A COUPLE TIMES THIS YEAR BECAUSE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE USED THEM TO DO THEIR ARTISAN MARKET AND TOWN OF FEDERALSBURG USED THEM TO POUR FOR THEM, AND TREY DID WAS ABLE TO VERIFY HE DID HAVE THE SOLICITOR'S PERMIT THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE.

I THINK WHEN YOU WENT TO RED LIGHT LIQUORS WHEN HE WAS THERE FOR WAS IT RED LIGHT LIQUORS? NO, THAT WAS FEDERALSBURG.

IT WAS FEDERALSBURG. WHEN YOU WENT THERE.

HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS SOLICITOR'S PERMIT, BUT HE'S TAKEN CARE OF THAT NOW.

BUT THERE'S STILL SOME QUESTION WITH THE STATE AS TO IS HE EVEN ALLOWED TO DO THIS? SO, LIKE I SAID, AS OF LAST YEAR, STATE LAW THAT THEY HAVE TO LET THE ATC KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING THESE EVENTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THEY HAVE TO LET US KNOW, BUT THE ATC DOES IT OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF THEIR HEART.

AND YOU JUST COMMON COURTESY TO LET US KNOW THAT THAT WAS GOING ON.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY TOWN ORIGINALLY WAS HOLDING AN EVENT.

WE TRY TO SUPPORT THEM ANY WAY WE CAN, AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK SO FAST.

UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM, UM, OR ANYTHING THEY DID WRONG.

IT'S COMES BACK ON THE BREWERIES AND THE WINERIES, SO THAT THAT TOOK QUITE A FEW HOURS FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AS WELL.

UM, BUT IT WAS AN INTERESTING CASE.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HOPING.

YEAH. SO IT WAS NO FAULT OF THE TOWN.

THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO GET ANY LICENSE.

AND THEY WERE CORRECT.

THAT BREWERY AND WINERY, IT WAS THEIR OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE FOLLOWING THEIR LICENSE WITH THE STATE.

BUT AFTER CIRCLING BACK WITH THE STATE, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY FOLLOWED THE PROCESS.

SO BOTH THE BOTH WINERY AND BREWERY TOLD ME THAT THEY TOLD THE STATE.

THE STATE SAID OTHERWISE.

SO WHEN THEY.

WHEN THEY ANNOUNCE IT TO THIS ATC OR WHATEVER.

DOES THE ATC DO IT LIKE A KNEE JERK REACTION AND SEND IT OVER TO THE COUNTY? IT GETS PUT IN, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR COUNTY.

IT GETS PUT INTO A FILE AND EMAILED RIGHT TO US.

BUT LIKE IT'S A IT'S A SPREADSHEET.

SO YOU DO GET SOMETHING.

YEAH, WE GET SOMETHING.

I MEAN THEY SHOULD GIVE YOU SOME KIND OF NOTIFICATION.

HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE JUST GOT THE LAST ONE WE GOT WAS ON THE 11TH, AND IT'S JUST AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET.

I'LL PULL IT UP HERE. AND IT'LL HAVE DATE RECEIVED.

THE NAME OF THE WINERY, BREWERY OR DISTILLERY, THE ADDRESS WHICH COUNTY THEY'RE IN AND THE TYPE.

AND ALMOST ALWAYS IT'S A PLAN.

PROMOTION IS WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THEY'LL HAVE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.

SO WE CAN JUST EASILY LOOK ON THERE AND SORT BY COUNTY TO LOOK FOR ANYTHING FOR CAROLINE, WHICH EVERY TIME WE GET THESE WE DON'T EVER SEE ANYTHING FOR CAROLINE.

SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT JUST STICKING TO THE COUNTY.

WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THESE BUSINESSES WITH THE STATE.

WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THESE EVENTS BECAUSE THE STATE HAS COME UP WITH ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT LICENSES FESTIVAL PERMITS, STATE OF MARYLAND PERMITS, CATER PERMITS.

I MEAN, IT GOES ON AND ON.

UH, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES RESEARCH TO FIND OUT THESE EVENTS ARE GOING ON, WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE.

AND I TRY TO TALK TO THESE BUSINESSES BEFORE THE EVENT TOOK PLACE.

AND THEY TOLD ME, THEY TOLD TALK THE STATE, TALK TO THE STATE OTHERWISE.

AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK CLOSELY ON THIS.

SO I SAID BETWEEN TIPS AND THAT THAT TOOK A GOOD AMOUNT OF MAN HOURS.

I SAID, THERE'S JUST MORE. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THERE'S MORE THAN JUST OUR LITTLE COUNTY RULES.

I MEAN, THE COUNTY RULES ARE A GUIDELINE.

MHM. RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, I HAVE ONE THING I WANT TO BRING UP JUST BECAUSE.

NO. YOU CAN'T. YEAH, I'M GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

UM, NO. THE COLLISONS FROM CALBOURNE.

EVENTS. IT'S ONE BAD THING ABOUT BEING IN THE PUBLIC EYE.

SOMETIMES, UM, THEY WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE IT WHERE THEY CAN.

COW BARN EVENTS CAN HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE.

UM, BUT CRYSTAL HAS TOLD ME THAT WE.

IT'S ALREADY HAD THIS DISCUSSION, AND IT DOESN'T SUIT THEIR.

WHAT THEY WANT. SO, UM, I'M BASICALLY JUST RELAYING THE INFORMATION THAT SHE'S.

CAME IN TO WORK AND HIT ME UP THERE.

SO YES, IF YOU REMEMBER, SHE CAME IN BEFORE THE BOARD AND DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO.

YOU HAD ASKED HER TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COSTS WERE GOING TO BE, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE INVOLVED.

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AND I MET WITH BOTH SHELLY AND DEBBIE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT A LIQUOR LICENSE WOULD ENTAIL, WHAT WAS INVOLVED, AND SHE DECIDED NOT TO CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BOARD BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT AWARE THAT IF SHE GOT A PERMANENT LICENSE.

SO IF WE GOT LEGISLATION CHANGED TO CREATE A TYPE OF LICENSE FOR AN EVENT VENUE THAT ONCE SHE WAS A PERMANENT LICENSE HOLDER, SHE COULD NOT ALLOW ANYBODY TO COME THERE AND BRING THEIR OWN ALCOHOL. AND SHE'S LIKE, WELL, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HURT MY WEDDING BUSINESS BECAUSE THAT'S MY BIGGEST, YOU KNOW, MONEYMAKER FOR MY, MY RENTALS IS WHEN I HOST WEDDINGS. AND SHE, I SAID, NO, YOU WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE TO SELL AND PROVIDE THE ALCOHOL IF YOU HAVE THAT LICENSE.

AND SHE SAID, I DON'T THINK I WANT TO GIVE THAT UP TO THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO BRING THEIR OWN.

SO THE CONVERSATION KIND OF JUST ENDED AFTER THAT.

SHE HAD MADE THE DECISION.

SHE DIDN'T THINK SHE WANTED TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BRING A CONVERSATION WITH HER.

IN YOUR ONE DAY? YES, BUT SHE DIDN'T.

DIDN'T SHE HAVE A HALL RENTAL? RIGHT. AND THEY TURNED AROUND.

THEY WERE SELLING ALCOHOL. YES, YES.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE HAD SUGGESTED TO LOOK INTO WAS, YOU KNOW, CONTACT YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY, SEE HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT, YOU KNOW, HER INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING IF SHE WERE TO BECOME A LICENSE HOLDER AND THAT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE CONVERSATIONS AFTER THAT.

SHE NEVER REACHED BACK OUT.

HONESTLY. AND SHE WANTED SHE WANTED TO KNOW IF SHE COULD COME.

AND I SAID NO, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S TOO LATE TO PUT YOU ON THE AGENDA.

UM, I THINK SHE.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM HER, I DON'T THINK THE EVENTS VENUE IS PAYING OUT THE WAY THAT THEY WERE HOPING, AND SHE WAS JUST LOOKING FOR OTHER WAYS.

SHE SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HOST PAINT NIGHTS OR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, AND PROVIDE WINE OR THINGS ALONG THAT LINE.

UM, BUT I JUST TOLD HER I WOULD BRING IT UP, AND BASICALLY I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT ALL THIS WENT DOWN BEFORE.

SO WHEN I FOLLOW UP WITH HER, I'M GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD.

AND YOU DID.

YOU CHOSE NOT TO PURSUE IT.

YES. BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE MET WAS HER DELI, MYSELF AND DEBBIE.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAD DISCUSSED WHEN WE MET WAS ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE TOLD HER THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE SIMPLER WAS TO APPLY FOR THE STATEWIDE CATERERS LICENSE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD SHE WOULD THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE HER THE ABILITY THAT IF THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WANTED HER TO COME DO ALCOHOL FOR AN EVENT, SHE COULD DO THAT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO THERE WAS NOTHING PREVENTING HER FROM CATERING HER OWN EVENT ON HER OWN PROPERTY, BUT SHE WOULD HAVE THE ADDED BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO GO OFF SITE IF SHE WANTED TO.

AND THAT WAY YOU'RE JUST CATERING FOR AN EVENT.

IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE A BUSINESS THAT'S OPEN ON A DAILY BASIS PROVIDING ALCOHOL, THEN PROBABLY IT'S NOT THE BEST FIT TO GET A PERMANENT LICENSE.

MAYBE SEEK THE THE CATERERS LICENSE.

AND THAT WAY, EVEN IF YOU CATER YOUR OWN EVENT ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED AND YOU STILL HAVE THAT ADDED BENEFIT OF GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE IF SOMEBODY WANTED YOU TO, I THINK IT'S AND SHE WAS GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT.

SO WE GIVE HER THE INFORMATION ON, YOU KNOW, THE COST WITH THE AND THERE'S THE STATE HAS TWO CLASSES.

THEY HAVE A LIMITED AND THEN A STATEWIDE LIMITED IS YOU CAN YOUR LICENSE GIVES YOU LIKE THREE CONTIGUOUS YOU KNOW COUNTIES. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THE SHORE AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE, ALL RIGHT, I JUST WANT TO DO CAROLINE TALBOT AND QUEEN ANNE'S.

THE LICENSE IS CHEAPER BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO DO THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU CAN JUST DO THE FULL BLOWN ANYWHERE IN THE STATE.

I THINK I WILL I WILL REMIND HER OF THAT.

I DON'T YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'S SHE'S BEEN CALLING THE OFFICE PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE BETTER FIT.

YEAH, I THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB TO DO WORKING WITH THESE BUSINESSES THAT WANT TRY TO DO THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE SALON CHANGE OR THE DELIVERY LIKE SO.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT THIS ON.

SHE HEARD ABOUT THE SALON CHANGE.

RIGHT. AND WHEN WE CAN I THINK WE DO.

BUT JUST LIKE TODAY, WE TRY TO THINK OF THE TOTALITY OF EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T THINKING OF WHEN THEY OPENED A BUSINESS.

I MEAN, OPEN A BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN 24, SEVEN OR WHATEVER COMPARED TO A ONE DAY EVENT.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

SO I MEAN, JUST OPENING THE EYES TO THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT THINKING OF SO THEY DON'T GET JAMMED UP AT THE LAST MINUTE.

SO I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.

I'M DONE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE.

YES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE CLOSE THE MEETING. I SECOND IT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE CLOSE THIS MEETING FOR THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS FOR WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 20TH, 2023 AT 11 A.M..

RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.