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DO YOU. WANT TO GO? DID YOU WANT TO DRAIN INTO THAT GUY? ALL RIGHT. YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED THERE? MAKING A MOVE. HIS TAGS BACK.YEAH. WITH NO PERMITS OR SOMETHING.
HE IS VERY ARROGANT. HE DENIED HIM.
HE SAID IT'S GOING TO COST HIM, LIKE, $1 MILLION.
THAT ON ME. I READ THE ARTICLE.
HE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE LIVED HERE ALL OUR LIVES.
I'M DOING EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY.
AND HE COMES IN HERE AND DOES WHATEVER HE WANTS.
HOW ABOUT YOURSELF? PRETTY GOOD.
IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE I'VE SEEN YOU.
I KNOW, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING? UPSTAIRS. YOU GOT ME CHAINED TO THE DESK.
THEN I WOULDN'T LIKE TO MISS OUR MEETING THIS WEEKEND.
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OH, YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH.I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WHAT? DO WE HAVE TO PUSH THE BUTTON? IF YOUR GREEN LIGHT'S ON. YOU'RE GOOD.
OKAY. IT'S A LITTLE AFTER 530, SO WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED.
WELCOME TO THE MEETING OF THE CAROLINE COUNTY AGRICULTURAL PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD.
OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE GREG HARRIS, IAN MITCHELL, BRIAN SADOFF, JAMIE STAFFORD.
BETH BEALS IS OUR BOARD ADMINISTRATOR, AND OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT IS AN OWNER'S LOT REQUEST FROM LEONA ROBINSON.
AND IT WAS PLACED UNDER EASEMENT IN 1990.
THERE ARE NO EXISTING DWELLINGS ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
MRS. ROBINSON IS THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE EASEMENT.
SHE'S REQUESTING ONE OWNER'S LOT ON THE PROPERTY, AND THERE HAS BEEN NO PRIOR REQUEST FOR ANY LOT.
AND I HAVE A MAP SHOWING WHERE SHE'S REQUESTING THAT.
AND FROM YOUR IF YOU APPROVE THIS, THEN THIS WOULD GO FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO BE APPROVED. OKAY.
NOW, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S TWO ACRES.
IT'S JUST WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT THE LOCATION.
I DON'T I HAVEN'T MAPPED IT OUT OR ANYTHING.
THAT'S JUST WHERE THEY SELECTED.
SO EVERYTHING WOULD WOULD DID THE PERC TEST AND IF APPROVED, WHERE TO IF THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR IT.
THEY LOOK AT THINGS THAT HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT OF AG, WHICH SAID THERE'S NOT MUCH.
IT'S ON. IT'S 104 ACRES, IT'S 104 ACRES AND IT'S ON THE DIRT ROAD OFF IT.
SO I'M ASSUMING THE ACCESS WOULD BE OFF THE DIRT ROAD THERE.
SO IF YOU APPROVE IT, YOU WOULD JUST NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THEN.
MOTION. NO. NO MOTION TO APPROVE.
THEY VOTE. THERE WERE TWO. THERE WERE SEVERAL.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NOW THE NEXT ITEM IS BY STATE FEEDERS, ANAEROBIC DIGESTER.
AND I BELIEVE MR. SCHIFF IS HERE IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP TO THE TABLE.
IF YOU DON'T MIND FLIPPING THAT MICROPHONE ON TO.
ANAEROBIC DIGESTION IS A WELL KNOWN PROCESS WHERE WASTE BREAKS DOWN AND PRODUCES BIO GAS IN THE FORM OF METHANE, WHICH CAN BE RECOVERED AND CLEANED FOR FOR USE IN VARIOUS FORMS. AND AFTER SPEAKING WITH HANNAH TURNER, WHO IS THE LEAD ADMINISTRATOR AT MOUTH, THE STATE OFFICE IT APPEARS THAT THE REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA CRITERIA TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD. SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND LET MR. SCHIFF EXPLAIN WHAT HE'S WANTING TO DO TO THE BOARD AND IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
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OKAY. WELL, IF THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, WE HAVE BEEF CATTLE THERE, ABOUT 3000 BEEF CATTLE PRODUCING WASTE EVERY DAY.AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE A BETTER USE OF THAT, OF THAT PRODUCT AND THEN MAKE IT MORE USER FRIENDLY PRODUCT FOR LAND APPLICATION. THE BIO THE ANAEROBIC DIGESTER WOULD BE USED TO PRODUCE METHANE.
SOME OF THAT METHANE WOULD BE USED TO OPERATE A A GENERATOR TO PRODUCE ELECTRIC.
AND THEN SOME OF IT WILL BE USED FOR METHANE TO REPLACE PROPANE NATURAL GAS.
ACTUALLY, WE WOULD USE THE METHANE TO RUN THAT BOILER THAT PRODUCES THE STEAM, PRODUCES THE FEED.
AND AND AS WE BUILD A PROGRAM, IF THERE'S EXTRA METHANE, LOOK INTO TRUCKS TO BURN IT ALL IN AN EFFORT TO CREATE CARBON CREDITS.
WE WE DO BUSINESS BOTH IN OUR GRAIN BUSINESS AND IN OUR LIVESTOCK BUSINESS WITH LARGE COMPANIES.
AND THEY'RE ALL LOOKING FOR CARBON CREDITS FROM THE FROM THEIR CUSTOMER BASE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
WOULD YOU BE SELLING ANY OF THIS OR WOULD YOU BE USING IT ALL YOURSELF? THE ENERGY.
OUR GOAL IS TO USE ALL DOWN HERE.
SO IT WOULD STAY ON THE FENCE.
REALLY, AT THAT FARM, THERE'S NOT A METHOD TO MARKET THE ENERGY.
SO WE WOULD BE RETAINING THE ENERGY WITHIN THE COMPANY.
YEAH. PROBABLY TRANSITIONING TO SOME GRAIN DRYING ON SITE.
YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. CHEF. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF 100%.
ONE OF THE QUESTION I HAVE ON THIS IS, IS THIS THE SAME OR DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT THEY'RE HAVING A MEETING ABOUT IN RIDGELY THAT ON P-VINE OR RUDE A DAF TANK? NOW THAT THAT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
TOTALLY DIFFERENT. THAT IS JUST SIMPLY TAKING PRODUCT FROM THE CHICKEN INDUSTRY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR GOAL IS FOR THAT.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHO'S APPLYING.
ARE THEY ACTUALLY TRYING TO PUT A DIGESTER THERE? YEAH. WELL A DAF TANK OKAY.
THEY'RE HANDLING DEATH AND THEN PROBABLY END OF LIFE.
WE DO STORE DEATH IN OUR DELAWARE FEED YARD AND LAND APPLY THAT RIGHT.
YEAH. BUT WE ARE WE ARE NOT FALLING UNDER ALL THAT CHAOS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT.
RIGHT. MR. CHIEF I HAVE A QUESTION.
I'M MATT KACHINSKY. I WORK UP IN THE PLANNING CODES OFFICE.
SO DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE STAFF ON YOUR FARM HERE AT THIS LOCATION IN MARYLAND? ON THIS FARM. THE NET FARM? YEAH. NO.
DO YOU PLAN ON DOING THAT FOR THE DIGESTER? THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF INTRODUCING THAT AT SOME MINOR LEVEL.
OKAY. TO MAKE THE THE DIGESTER MORE EFFICIENT.
ALSO SOME PRODUCT YOU HAVE TO BRING IN SOME SUGAR PRODUCT.
YEAH. TO MAKE THE FERMENTATION PROCESS WORK.
AND THAT COMES FROM LIKE A BREWERY TYPE ENVIRONMENT.
SO IT'S A MIXTURE OF PRODUCTS THAT MAKES THE DIGESTION MOST EFFICIENT.
SO CAN YOU RUN THE DIGESTER JUST ON THE COW MANURE ALONE, OR IS IT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO BRING IN SOME EXTRA MATERIAL TO TO DO THAT? I'M NOT SURE.
YEAH. THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE OR NOT, OR IF THIS BOARD IS AWARE OF THE MORATORIUM THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS PLACED ON FOOD WASTE, RESIDUAL STORAGE AND DAF STORAGE.
CURRENTLY, THERE'S A MORATORIUM IN EFFECT.
THAT MORATORIUM IS ON ONE PARTICULAR OPERATOR, NOT ON THE COUNTY.
WELL, IT'S IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY OUTLINED TO BE ON ONE OPERATOR, BUT IT IS.
WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON MAKING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT, WHICH WILL MORE THAN LIKELY BE INTRODUCED ON TUESDAY AT THE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER'S MEETING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON ON USING DAF HERE ON THIS SITE, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE UNDER A MORATORIUM FOR THAT.
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SO WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH MDA AND MDA TO, TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS.SO I HAVEN'T HAD DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH MOUTH LIKE BETH HAS.
YOU CAN ALWAYS MODIFY THE OPERATION TO DO THAT.
BUT CURRENTLY WE JUST DON'T HAVE REGULATIONS TO TO ALLOW IT.
THAT WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY TO YOUR FARM OPERATION AND WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
BUT NOT NOT CURRENTLY WITH, WITH DAFF OR ANY OTHER FOOD RESIDUALS.
SO WE'LL BRING THAT UP TO THE BOARD.
AND HANNAH FROM AL STATED THAT IF SINCE THE COUNTY HAS A MORATORIUM ON THAT THEN THIS AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE THAT CURRENT NOW WITH THIS PLAN, THEN IT CANNOT GO IN FRONT OF THE BOARD WITH UNTIL THAT IS THE MORATORIUM IS LIFTED JUST TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.
OKAY. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS LIKE, ARE YOU GOING TO GO AHEAD? AND SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO DAF CURRENTLY AS IT'S RIGHT NOW? I GUESS THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN QUESTION.
I FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS IT'S NOT AN OPTION.
SO I NEED TO PURSUE THE ECONOMICS OF JUST THE STEARMAN.
BUT BETH IS IT LIKE THIS BOARD.
IS IT LIKE WITH THE BCA WHEN YOU CAN APPROVE SOMETHING WITH EXCEPTIONS AND YOU NOTE THAT, CAN YOU, CAN YOU DO THAT FOR THIS UNTIL THE COUNTY DETERMINES WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE DAF, WE CAN APPROVE THIS AND SAY, HEY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF RIGHT.
IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT YOU WANT TO GO.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT COULD MAYBE HAPPEN ON TUESDAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXTENSION.
SOMETHING WILL TAKE PLACE ON TUESDAY.
I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT THAT WILL BE.
SO TJ, WOULD YOU WANT US TO VOTE ON THIS NOW WITH THE RESTRICTIONS? OR WOULD YOU RATHER SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON TUESDAY? OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE DAF COMPONENT AT ALL? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I MEAN, IF WE VOTE ON THIS AND WE PUT RESTRICTIONS, THEN TUESDAY, A WHOLE NOTHER GROUP OF LAWS OR WHATEVER COME OUT WHERE WE ARE, THEN ARE WE BACK VOTING AGAIN LATER DOWN THE ROAD? IF IF HE'D LIKE TO USE DAF IN THIS OPERATION, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS TUESDAY.
NOW YOU KNOW YOU COULD DO A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL THAT NO DAFF BE USED.
OKAY. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
JUST SO YOU CAN STILL WORK ON THAT PROCESS AND START WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, FINALIZING SOME SITE PLANS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, EVERYTHING ELSE WILL ALREADY BE IN PLACE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT MATERIALS YOU CAN YOU CAN BRING IN.
YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT FALLS IN THE COUNTY.
YEAH. AND THAT THAT COMPONENT CAN BE ADDED LATER AS NEEDED OR NECESSARY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DEAF, UNTIL FURTHER INFORMATION IS FOUND OUT FROM THE COUNTY ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE. THAT'S IT.
THAT WAS EASY. I TURNED THAT OFF.
YOU CAN GO RIGHT OUT THAT WAY.
YEAH. GOOD SEEING YOU. OTHER UPDATES FOR MOUTH.
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THE NEW CYCLE IS GETTING READY TO COME OUT.THE APPLICATION PROBABLY THE END OF JANUARY.
ALL THE BOARD ADMINISTRATORS FOR THE PROGRAM WERE MEETING NEXT WEEK.
SO AFTER THAT MEETING, I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'LL SEND THE APPLICATION OUT.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE.
OH. ARE YOU AWARE OF THE THE CHANGES IN OUR PLANNING CODES OFFICE WHERE KATHLEEN FREEMAN IS NOW THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND CRYSTAL DADDS IS NOW THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING CODES.
SO EVERYBODY'S KIND OF MOVED UP.
THAT'S IT. YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? NOPE. NO.
IF YOU WANT, I PRINTED COPIES OF THAT RESOLUTION FOR YOU.
YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S IN EFFECT RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S A MEETING ON THE 23RD ABOUT THAT.
RIGHT. THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? MOTION. OKAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.