Mar 05, 2024 County Commissioners Meeting

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MIC] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO THE MARCH 5TH, 2024 CAROLINE COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING, WHICH IS NOW IN ORDER.

THIS MORNING WE HAVE OUR INVOCATION BY PASTOR HINES OF ETERNAL LIFE MINISTRIES OF DENTON, AND THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

GOOD MORNING, PASTOR. IF EVERYONE CAN RISE.

GRACIOUS GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR BLESSING US TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.

WE THANK YOU, DEAR GOD, FOR ALLOWING US TO COME HERE TO HANDLE THIS IMPORTANT WORK.

LORD, I PRAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT YOU BLESS THESE COMMISSIONERS.

GIVE THEM WISDOM, DEAR GOD, TO MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF CAROLINE COUNTY.

BLESS THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, DEAR GOD, AND BLESS THE CITIZENS, DEAR LORD, SO THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER SO THAT ALL OF US CAN BE REFLECTIONS OF YOUR GLORY.

IN JESUS NAME ALLOW YOUR ORDER AND BEAUTY WOULD REIGN FOREVER BEFORE YOUR THRONE, TO BE PRESENT IN THIS MEETINGS THIS MORNING, IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SAYS I HAVE A CLOSEOUT REPORT TO READ.

DOES ANYONE HAVE THAT? SHE LEFT. GO GET IT.

I DON'T SEE IT. DO YOU SEE IT IN YOUR PACKET? NO. WE CAN READ IT LATER, I GUESS.

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IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING? ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC?

[Public Comment]

FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS SHANNON HANNAWALD AND WARRIORS OF THE EASTERN SHORE WITH A PROCLAMATION FOR MARCH ENDOMETRIOSIS AWARENESS MONTH

[Proclamation: March Endometriosis Awareness Month in Caroline County]

SO GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU HERE THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AGAIN.

CAROLINE COUNTY, MARYLAND PROCLAMATION ENDOMETRIOSIS AWARENESS MONTH.

WHEREAS AN ESTIMATED 200 MILLION PEOPLE WORLDWIDE HAVE ENDOMETRIOSIS.

ONE IN EVERY TEN WOMEN HAVE ENDOMETRIOSIS.

IT IS [INAUDIBLE] WHICH THERE IS NO KNOWN CURE.

AND WHEREAS ENDOMETRIOSIS IS A CHRONIC ILLNESS INCREASING IN EPIDEMIC RATES, WHICH CAUSES FATIGUE AND INFERTILITY, DEBILITATING PAIN AND WOMEN OF ALL AGES AND RACES.

AND WHEREAS ENDOMETRIOSIS CAN ONLY BE DIAGNOSED THROUGH LAPAROSCOPIC SURGERY AND THERE IS NO CURE FOR ENDOMETRIOSIS, ONLY TREATMENT.

WHEREAS PATIENTS WITH THE ILLNESS WITH THIS ILLNESS OFTEN MUST LEARN TO LIVE WITH WIDESPREAD PAIN THROUGHOUT THEIR BODIES, EXTREME FATIGUE AND DAILY EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL ISSUES AND OTHER AUTOIMMUNE DISORDERS.

AND WHEREAS IT IS NECESSARY THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE LACK OF MEDICAL RESEARCH, EDUCATION, AND AWARENESS OF A DISEASE THAT AFFECTS SO MANY WOMEN IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS ENDOMETRIOSIS IS PRESENT IN CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS EIGHT AND YOUNG WOMEN, WHICH POSE UNIQUE CHALLENGES FOR THIS POPULATION WHO SUFFER NOT ONLY FROM THE SYMPTOMS OF THIS ILLNESS, BUT ALSO FROM THE LACK OF UNDERSTANDING AND THE LACK OF SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE.

WHEREAS EMPLOYERS SHOULD SUPPORT THEIR EMPLOYEES WITH ENDOMETRIOSIS BY MAKING ADAPTIONS TO THE WORK ENVIRONMENT SO THAT PEOPLE WITH ENDOMETRIOSIS CAN CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AT WORK AND NOT BE FORCED TO FILE FOR DISABILITY.

AND WHEREAS THE ENDOMETRIOSIS ASSOCIATION, THE LOCAL SUPPORT GROUP, ENDO WARRIORS OF THE EASTERN SHORE AND OTHER GROUPS AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE JOINED TOGETHER TO PROMOTE ENDOMETRIOSIS AWARENESS AND SUPPORT, INCLUDING IMPROVED EDUCATION, DIAGNOSIS, RESEARCH AND TREATMENT.

AND WHEREAS, UNDERSTANDING THIS ILLNESS WILL HELP GUARANTEE HOPE FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUALS.

NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CAROLINE COUNTY, DO HEREBY SUPPORT THE NATION IN PROCLAIMING MARCH 2024 AS ENDOMETRIOSIS AWARENESS MONTH IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

THANK YOU, SHANNON, FOR BRINGING THIS AWARENESS TO CAROLINE COUNTY AND AROUND.

ME BEING ONE I'VE, I KNOW THE EFFECTS OF THIS THROUGH A FAMILY MEMBER AND IT'S PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WE'LL NEVER KNOW THE SUFFERING THAT THEY GO THROUGH W ITH THIS DISEASE.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

THE COURTHOUSE HAS LIT IT YELLOW FOR THE MONTH OF FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH AS WELL.

AND I'LL THANK YOU FOR THE RIBBONS.

AND MARCH 15TH, I BELIEVE, IS THE OFFICIAL DAY.

WELL, IT'S MY THIRD.

I MADE IT UP THREE YEARS AGO.

OKAY. THAT IT WAS GO YELLOW FOR ENDO DAY.

SO IT WILL BE THE THIRD ANNUAL GO YELLOW FOR ENDO DAY.

AND WE HAVE EVERY YEAR MORE PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPATING.

THIS YEAR WE HAVE THE ENTIRE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

DR. SIMMONS IS ACTUALLY HAVING THE ENTIRE SCHOOL SYSTEM PARTICIPATE.

OKAY. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, YOU GUYS.

I WANT TO FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

THIS IS THE FOURTH YEAR THAT I'VE DONE THIS, AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AMAZING AND SUPPORTIVE, AND JEN HAS BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH.

AND HAVING THE COUNTY LIGHT UP YELLOW MEANS MORE TO ME AND THE OTHER WOMEN IN THE COMMUNITY THAN I COULD POSSIBLY EXPLAIN.

THE FIRST YEAR THAT I DID IT, I KIND OF JUST WENT OVER WHAT ENDOMETRIOSIS WAS THE SIGNS, THE SYMPTOMS, THE TREATMENTS.

THE SECOND YEAR, I SHARED MY STORY.

HOW WE HAD TO GO THROUGH INFERTILITY TREATMENTS AND ALL OF THE SURGERIES THAT I HAD GONE THROUGH AND THE BABY THAT WE HAD LOST.

LAST YEAR, I WENT THROUGH HOW IT WAS A WHOLE BODY DISEASE BECAUSE IT AFFECTS YOU PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY AND MENTALLY.

THERE ARE MANY WOMEN THAT COMMIT SUICIDE THAT HAVE ENDOMETRIOSIS BECAUSE IT TAKES, ON AVERAGE, ABOUT EIGHT YEARS TO GET A DIAGNOSIS.

AND YOU KIND OF GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU START TO WONDER IF IT IS IN YOUR HEAD AND IF YOU ARE CRAZY.

AND I DID ATTEMPT TO COMMIT SUICIDE WHEN I WAS 17.

BECAUSE I HAD SPENT FIVE YEARS WITH THE DOCTORS TELLING MY PARENTS I WAS LYING, AND IT WAS TO THE POINT WHERE I FELT EXTREMELY ALONE AND I STARTED TO FEEL LIKE IT WAS IN MY HEAD. AND WHAT WAS THE POINT OF EVEN FIGHTING BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO ME? THIS. THIS YEAR MY THEME IS KIND OF ADVOCATE FOR YOURSELF.

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ENDOMETRIOSIS ISN'T LISTED YET AS AN AUTOIMMUNE DISORDER.

HOWEVER THE DOCTORS AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE WORKING ON THAT.

BUT IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH A LOT OF AUTOIMMUNE DISORDERS SUCH AS LUPUS, CROHN'S, THYROID DISORDER, ADDISON'S DISEASE.

ENDOMETRIOSIS IS A FAMILY AND FRIENDS DISEASE.

IT AFFECTS EACH PERSON WHO HAS THE DISEASE AND EACH PERSON THAT LOVES AND CARES ABOUT THAT PERSON.

I HAVE HAD TO MISS MORE THINGS THAN I WOULD LIKE TO ADMIT.

BECAUSE OF THE PAIN THAT I WAS IN.

AND IT'S HARD TO TELL THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TO SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO BE AT.

AND EVEN THOUGH THEY UNDERSTAND.

IT'S STILL KIND OF DEBILITATING MENTALLY.

THIS LAST YEAR, I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CROHN'S, AND IT WAS KIND OF LIKE STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN.

I WAS IN THE ER MULTIPLE TIMES.

I HAVE BEEN ADMITTED IN THE HOSPITAL EVERY MONTH FOR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS, FOR 3 OR 4 DAYS, SO THAT THEY COULD GET THE CROHN'S UNDER CONTROL.

THEY DID FINALLY START ME ON AN INFUSION THAT WILL HOPEFULLY WORK.

BUT I HAD A DOCTOR IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM THAT TOOK ME BACK TO WHEN I WAS 16 YEARS OLD.

HE WALKED IN THE ROOM.

HE DIDN'T SAY HI.

HE DIDN'T ASK HOW I WAS.

HE DIDN'T ASK WHY I WAS THERE.

HE SAT DOWN IN THE CHAIR AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID, ENDOMETRIOSIS IS PAINFUL, BUT IT'S NOT THAT PAINFUL AND IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY CONDITION.

AND I KIND OF SAT THERE FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE I HONESTLY KNEW THAT IF I SAID WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE WAY OUT OF LINE.

SO I GOT MYSELF TOGETHER AND I LOOKED AT HIM AND I TOLD HIM THAT ENDOMETRIOSIS IS AN EMERGENCY CONDITION AND IT IS EXTREMELY PAINFUL.

AND I TOLD HIM THAT I HOPED HE NEVER HAD A DAUGHTER BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WISH THAT PAIN ON ANYONE.

AND WATCHING THE PEOPLE THAT YOU LOVE GO THROUGH THAT IS JUST AS AWFUL AS GOING THROUGH IT YOURSELF.

AT FIRST I CRIED WHEN HE WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM AND IT LITERALLY TOOK ME BACK TO A VERY BAD PLACE WHERE I WAS WHEN I WAS 16, WHEN I KIND OF FELT LIKE, WHAT WAS THE POINT? WHY AM I DOING THIS? AND THEN I GOT ANGRY AND IT KIND OF RELIT THE FIRE, BECAUSE IF ANY OF MY NIECES.

MARGIE HAS THREE OF THEM.

IF IF THEY HAD BEEN LAYING IN THAT BED, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TACKLED THAT DOCTOR IF HE HAD TALKED TO THEM LIKE THAT.

IT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE, I KNOW, TO ADVOCATE FOR MYSELF, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT.

AND A LOT OF I MEAN, MARGIE KNOWS BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH.

BUT A LOT OF PARENTS WILL PROBABLY DO WHAT MY PARENTS DID WHERE THE DOCTOR SAID, WELL, WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING.

SHE'S FINE. SO SHE'S MAKING IT UP.

AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE TO ME FOR ANYONE TO BE TREATED LIKE THAT.

BUT THE FIRE THAT GETS LIT IN ME IS BECAUSE OF ALL OF MY NIECES, THE ONES THAT I HAVE THROUGH BLOOD AND THROUGH LOVE.

AND AS LONG AS ME STANDING HERE TALKING TO YOU AND TALKING TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS ALL OVER THE STATE, IF THAT HELPS ONE PERSON, THEN I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES.

NOT EVEN JUST FOR ENDOMETRIOSIS, BUT FOR ANYTHING.

YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR YOURSELF, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT ANYTHING IS GOING TO GET DONE.

MY OTHER THING IS DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER, BECAUSE IF YOU WERE TO WALK PAST ME, I DON'T.

I MEAN, I LOOK LIKE A REGULAR 40 OR 40 YEAR OLD WOMAN THAT HAS NOTHING WRONG WITH HER.

IF WHAT WAS WRONG ON MY INSIDE WAS ON MY OUTSIDE, EVERYBODY WOULD PROBABLY STAY TEN MILES AWAY FROM ME.

IT'S REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC ILLNESSES TO EXPLAIN IT TO OTHERS WHEN THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE AGAIN, I LOOK PERFECTLY FINE.

SO NOBODY'S GOING TO THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH ME.

SO IF SOMEONE SAYS TO YOU THAT THEY DON'T FEEL GOOD OR THAT THEY HAVE A CHRONIC ILLNESS, ASK QUESTIONS.

TELL THEM THAT YOU SUPPORT THEM, THAT YOU HAVE THEIR BACK, THAT YOU WILL DO WHAT YOU CAN TO HELP THEM.

I ALWAYS LIKE TO END WITH THE QUOTE, GOD GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS I CANNOT CHANGE, THE COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS I CAN, AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. ONE OF MY NIECES BROUGHT THIS QUOTE TO MY ATTENTION, AND I FEEL IT EXPLAINS IT PERFECTLY.

ENDO WARRIORS, UNFORTUNATELY CANNOT CONTROL THE PAIN BEING GIVEN BY ENDOMETRIOSIS.

BUT WE CAN HAVE THE COURAGE TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF THIS DISEASE AND HOW IT AFFECTS US AND OTHERS IN THE FUTURE.

SO AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, ON MARCH 15TH IS MY THIRD ANNUAL YELLOW DAY.

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OR YOU CAN EMAIL IT TO ME OR POST IT ON YOUR PAGE AND JUST TAG THE ENDO WARRIORS OF THE EASTERN SHORE.

I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THE MORE YELLOW, THE BETTER, BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT MORE WOMEN IN THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE SUPPORT AND THAT THEY ARE NOT ALONE.

SO I HONESTLY, I COULD SAY THANK YOU A MILLION TIMES, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY CONVEY HOW GRATEFUL I AM TO HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN TO ME AND TO THE OTHER WOMEN IN THE COMMUNITY.

WELL, GREAT JOB ADVOCATING FOR THIS, THIS CAUSE REALLY IMPORTANT CAUSE, AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY.

WELL I DID I TOLD MATT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, AND HE TOLD ME I WASN'T ALLOWED BECAUSE I WOULD GET ARRESTED.

ADVOCATE FOR NOT ONLY YOURSELF BUT FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN A FEW YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS.

AND EACH TIME YOU'RE MORE IMPRESSIVE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

EVERYBODY WEAR YELLOW THAT DAY? YEAH, I GAVE HER A FLIER.

SHE'S GOING TO SEND IT OUT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANKS, SHANNON.

MY FAULT. IT WAS BURIED IN MY PACKET.

SO DURING THE FEBRUARY 20TH COMMISSIONER MEETING, THE BOARD MET IN CLOSED SESSION FOR THE FOLLOWING TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE UNDER

[President’s Closed Session Report Out]

AND TO DISCUSS THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, OR ASSIGNMENT OF A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL UNDER AUTHORITY 2014 MARYLAND CODE.

STATE GOVERNMENT 3-305B SECTION 1 ATTENDEES WERE THE COMMISSIONERS KATHLEEN FREEMAN, STEWART BARROLL, DANIEL FOX, MARY BERNOFSKY, AND CINDY WATTS.

SO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ROBIN CAHALL, HEALTH OFFICER, CAROLINE

[Discussion of Health Department FY2025 Budget Requests]

GOOD MORNING ROBIN. GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU. SO OUR SUBMITTED BUDGET REQUEST FOR FY 25.

THE TOTAL IS $597,893.

THAT REPRESENTS A 2% INCREASE FROM FISCAL YEAR 2024.

NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED IN TERMS OF THE REQUEST FROM LAST YEAR, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WE'VE STRUCTURED OUR SUMMARY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY FOR FY 25.

LAST YEAR WE HAD ASKED FOR FUNDING FOR SECURITY AT THE HAP'S BUILDING, WHICH IS I CANNOT THANK YOU GUYS ENOUGH FOR THAT.

IT'S BEEN TREMENDOUS THERE.

OUR DEPUTY HAS JUST BEEN A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO TO OUR CREW AT THE HAP'S BUILDING.

LAST YEAR WE ASKED FOR IT SPECIFICALLY IN THE IN THE LINE ITEM AS SECURITY.

THIS YEAR, WE BROKE IT DOWN INTO ADMINISTRATION.

WE ALSO INCLUDED A SLIGHT INCREASE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, WHICH REPRESENTS OR 2% ARE ANTICIPATED, 2% SALARY INCREASES. AND THEN MEDICAL ADULT DAYCARE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE SHIFTED FUNDS AROUND TO INCREASE THEIR BUDGET.

THEY RECEIVE VERY LITTLE FUNDING.

AND WE REALLY NEED TO WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT, ON THAT PROGRAM.

NOT ONLY TO RIGHT NOW, THE FUNDING THAT WE DO RECEIVE AND, AND OUR FEE FOR IT IS A FEE FOR SERVICE PROGRAM, THE FUNDING THAT WE DO RECEIVE ESSENTIALLY GOES SPECIFICALLY TO SUPPORT CLIENTS.

WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT OUTREACH SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE CLIENTS ON BOARD, INCREASE OUR FEE FOR SERVICE.

THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE ALSO ADDED A VERY SMALL LINE ITEM.

IT'S A LITTLE OVER $5,000 FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING HEALTH DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION.

WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT OUR MEDICALLY ASSISTED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.

OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE THERE'S VERY STRICT ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT PROGRAM.

AND OCCASIONALLY WE'LL HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO FALLS OUT OF ELIGIBILITY VERY IT CAN IT CAN BE ONE

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THE NEXT DAY, LIKE THE DAY BEFORE THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO GO, THEY CHECK IT AGAIN.

AND WHEN THEY CHECK IT AGAIN, THEY'VE FALLEN OUT OF ELIGIBILITY FOR THIS.

IT'S CALLED A QUALIFIED MEDICARE BENEFIT.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE CAN'T TRANSPORT THOSE PEOPLE.

AND OCCASIONALLY IT'S SOMEONE WHO RELIES ON US TO GET THEM TO DIALYSIS OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE HAVE CARS THAT ARE THERE THAT DO NOT BELONG TO MAT TRANSPORTATION.

SO WE'VE PUT THIS VERY SMALL LINE IN THERE JUST AS AN EMERGENCY.

SO THAT ONE OF OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES CAN ACTUALLY TRANSPORT THAT INDIVIDUAL BY CAR WHERE THEY NEED TO GO IF THEY'RE SCHEDULED.

SO IT'S EXCLUSIVE TO THOSE WHO HAVE FALLEN OUT OF ELIGIBILITY FOR MAT RIGHT AT THIS VERY MOMENT.

BUT WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD BASELINE FOR ESTABLISHING A MORE ROBUST HEALTH DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.

SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD WE IMPLEMENTED THIS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE T HIS WEEK.

SO THE, THE FUNDING ACTUALLY SUPPORTS.

SUPPORTS THE STAFF MEMBER WHO'S GOING TO DO THE TRANSPORTING.

SO THEY'RE PAID FOR OUT OF THIS LINE ITEM AS OPPOSED TO THE MAT BUDGET.

WE ALREADY HAVE A TRACKING MECHANISM IN PLACE.

IT'S CALLED TRAN TRACK. SO WE CAN WE CAN SEE EXACTLY HOW MANY TIMES THAT'S HAPPENING.

SO WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE LEFT OUR COMMUNICABLE DISEASE PROJECTED AS A LITTLE OVER $22,000.

WE HAD INITIALLY THOUGHT ABOUT REMOVING SOME OF THAT, BREAKING IT DOWN BECAUSE WE ALSO GET GRANT FUNDS FOR THAT.

BUT WE WE DON'T GET A LOT OF GRANT FUNDS FOR TB PREVENTION.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ABOUT $6,000 THAT WE RECEIVE FOR TB PREVENTION.

AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR TB PREVENTION AT THE LEVEL THAT IT IS, MAYBE RAISE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO, YEAH.

AND AS YOU, GOVERNOR MOORE'S FY 25 PROPOSED BUDGET ALLOCATES $2.1 MILLION IN CORE FUNDING TO CAROLINE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE STATE MATCH.

SO THE THE COUNTY IS STILL REQUIRED.

IT'S A LITTLE OVER I.

22%. MAYBE IT'S CLOSE TO 22%.

AS THE COUNTY'S REQUIRED.

AND WITH THE AMOUNT THAT I'VE INCLUDED, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE EXACTLY HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE OVER, BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE WERE OVER THE REQUIRED BY A LITTLE OVER $5,000.

OUR WE'VE ASKED FOR WE'VE INCREASED FOR OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH CLINICS.

WE'VE CONSISTENTLY HAD FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY FOR OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR.

WE INCREASED THAT BY 2% AS WELL TO $49,683.

THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE $597,893 AMOUNT.

WE RECEIVE ABOUT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $10.2 MILLION IN GRANT FUNDING COLLECTIONS.

THAT INCLUDES STATE, GENERAL, FEDERAL AND THEN AS WELL AS THE COUNTY FUNDING.

SO YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? THE SO THE PEOPLE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHO AREN'T FALL OUT OF THE MAT TRANSFER OR MAT FUNDING AVAILABILITY CAN CAN THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY STILL BE USED FOR THAT TRANSPORTATION AFTER THEY FALL OUT OF THAT PROGRAM OR.

NO. SO SO THIS IS NOT MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT.

IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH WITH THE OPIOID SITUATION OR SUBSTANCE USE.

THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC.

IT'S MEDICAID ASSISTANCE.

TRANSPORTATION. SO A DIFFERENT MAT.

YES, A DIFFERENT MAT.

I MEAN, SO THE MEDICALLY ASSISTED THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP.

YEAH. IT'S ACTUALLY MOUD NOW WHICH IS OKAY DIFFERENT.

YEAH IT'S A DIFFERENT ACRONYM.

SO NOW IT'S MOUD, YES.

BUT WE WOULD I MEAN, IF THAT CAME UP, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW TALK TO DANNY ABOUT.

SO THIS IS THIS IS FOR ELDERLY OR WELL FOR ANY YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO BE MEDICAID ELIGIBLE.

YEAH. AND IT IS VERY STRICT CRITERIA THAT THEY MEET.

AND IT HAS TO THE TRANSPORTATION THAT THEY RECEIVE THROUGH MEDICAID ASSISTED TRANSPORTATION HAS TO BE THE LAST RESORT.

LIKE THERE'S NO LIKE NO ONE IN THE HOME HAS TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE TO THEM.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS, THEY'RE SCREENED ON A REGULAR BASIS.

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OKAY. GOTCHA. HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HEARD ANY MORE ABOUT THIS NEW FUNDING FORMULA FOR FUNDING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS THAT HAS SUPPOSEDLY CROPPED UP OUT OF NOWHERE? AND. YEAH I'M ALSO I THINK WE'RE HEARING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POTENTIALLY SHIFTING MORE OF THE COSTS ONTO THE COUNTIES, HAVE YOU HEARD? WELL SO THE FUNDING FORMULA THAT THEY CURRENTLY USE AND I DID I DO SIT ON THAT REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THE THE COURT, IT'S CALLED THE CORE FUNDING REVIEW COMMITTEE.

THE FORMULA THAT THEY USE IS BASED AT 1997 LIKE IT'S BEEN.

IS IT IN CODE? IT IS.

YES. IT ALSO IT RELIES A LOT ON THE COUNTIES.

IT RELIES ON SOME FIGURES THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BESIDES THE TAX BASE.

LIKE THAT'S NOT YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW THESE PERCENTAGES WERE FORMULATED.

I CAN SEND YOU THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE HISTORY OF IT MACO DID A REALLY GOOD REPORT.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE AGO.

BUT IT IT HAS NOT CHANGED.

IT'S THE EXACT SAME FORMULA THAT THEY'RE USING.

SO FOR SOME COUNTIES, THAT COULD VERY WELL BE THAT IT INCREASES THE PERCENTAGE THAT A COUNTY IS REQUIRED.

BUT THEN FOR OTHER COUNTIES, IT MIGHT BE IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT IF THEY'RE CHANGING, CHANGING THE WAY THE FORMULA WORKS OR WHAT THEY'RE BASING THE FORMULA ON.

I HAVEN'T HEARD WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION IN A LITTLE WHILE.

I KNOW THAT THEY ARE THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT.

I CAN DIG INTO IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S AT A STANDSTILL.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S STILL THERE.

IT'S JUST THERE PROBABLY SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP RECENTLY THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE TO THE FRONT LINE.

BECAUSE WHEN AS A WHOLE, WHEN THE HEALTH OFFICER, WHEN THE HEALTH OFFICER'S GROUP HAS THIS DISCUSSION, THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY BUDGET SUPPORTS NOT ONLY THE REQUIRED MATCH, BUT OVER THE REQUIRED MATCH.

AND IT'S NEVER IT'S NOT REALLY BEEN AN ISSUE.

AND THEN THERE ARE SOME OTHERS THAT THEY, THEY STRUGGLE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET FUNDING IN REGARDS TO THAT.

SO I THINK THAT WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR WHAT THE STATE DID LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF THE REQUIRED MATCH AND HOW IT WAS CALCULATED WAS A BENEFIT.

IT WAS A IT WAS A GREAT INCREASE THAT WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EXPECTED IT WAS ABOUT $110,000, I THINK.

BUT IT NEEDED TO HAPPEN SO THAT IT COULD KIND OF BRING BRING UP THE COUNTY BUDGET COMPARED TO THE CORE OR THE STATE FUNDED MATCH AS WELL IN COMPARISON. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, AND YOU STILL HAVE TO REMEMBER OUR WHAT WE REQUEST THIS THIS IS A VERY EVEN THE, THE CORE FUNDING ITSELF IS A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECEIVES.

WE ARE STILL ABOUT 85 TO 90% GRANT FUNDED.

SO AND WE CONTINUE TO TO LOOK FOR FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SPEAKING OF MOUD OUR PLAN FOR FY 25, BECAUSE THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OOCC, WHICH IS NOW OORR THAT OFFICE WILL BE FINISHED THE END OF JUNE, WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY PUT ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS.

WE'VE BUILT THEM INTO OUR CURRENT GRANTS SO THAT WE WON'T WE WILL NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT, THAT GRANT OR ASK FOR AN EXTENSION OR OR ASK FOR MORE FUNDING BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THAT WAS OUR FALLBACK WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO COME, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH DANNY ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN ORDER FOR US TO MAINTAIN THAT.

BUT JESSICA HAS DONE JESSICA AND THE FISCAL STAFF FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AT BUILDING THAT INTO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WHICH WE KIND OF SAID THAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING. LIKE, LET US, YOU KNOW, LET US GET THERE.

AND AND WE DID IT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THEY AND I THINK I SENT YOU GUYS THE MESSAGE ABOUT OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ADMINISTRATION GRANT WAS INCREASED BY ABOUT $300,000, SO.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

YEAH, SURE. I JUST WANT TO SAY A GREAT JOB YOU'VE DONE, ROBIN.

THANK YOU. CONTINUE TO DO WITH YOUR BUDGET AND JUST THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN GENERAL.

JUST I JUST THINK YOU ARE AN ASSET TO US.

AND FOR SOME REASON, I JUST.

I JUST FEEL THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW.

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I QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT MY DUCKS ARE IN A ROW, BUT.

YEAH, I LOVE THAT PLACE.

I LOVE, YOU KNOW, I LOVE BEING HERE AND DOING WHAT I DO.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KEEP ALL THE ACRONYMS STRAIGHT.

YEAH, WELL. IT TOOK ME A LITTLE WHILE TO GET IT.

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY.

I JUST GOTTA I GOTTA GOOGLE TOO.

AS SOON AS I GET ONE DOWN, THEY CHANGE IT SO.

SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE FROM THE LAST EMAIL WE GOT, YOU'RE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HAVING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

MY MEETING FRIDAY WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.

I MEAN, I IT WAS A VERY CANDID CONVERSATION.

AND I ADDRESSED THE COMMUNICATION ISSUE.

I FEEL LIKE I GOT THROUGH, AND I NOW HAVE A CONTACT.

SO WE'LL SEE. THIS IS VERY EARLY ON IN THE EVALUATION PLAN, PERIOD.

I HAVE 90 DAYS.

I SHOULDN'T SAY I HAVE 90 DAYS.

THE ENTIRE GROUP, MEANING MDE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

WE HAVE 90 DAYS TO, LIKE, REALLY DIG IN AND AND MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

I HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH KATHLEEN FOR TOMORROW.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO REALLY PROGRESS ON IS GETTING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RUNNING WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE MEETING ON FRIDAY AS TO, YOU KNOW SOME OF THE LOGISTICS PIECE OF IT, LIKE HOW, YOU KNOW, IS MDHS DO IT, WHICH IS THEIR IT COMPONENT GOING TO APPROVE THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS.

BUT I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A GOOD JUSTIFICATION AND YEAH, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

IT'S YOU KNOW, YEAH, I THINK THE MORE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS IS GOING TO BE CRUCIAL.

ABSOLUTELY. FOR YEARS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY WANT TO GO TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT THERE HAS TO BE APPROVAL FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PEOPLE.

YEAH. THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME BUILDING.

LET'S FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

WELL, AND I ALSO THINK THAT THAT QUALITY CONTROL PIECE THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT INTO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IS NECESSARY.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD LEAD ON IT.

I MEAN THE IDEA ABOUT THE OUTREACH THAT NEEDS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOLLOWING A PROJECT TO TO SOLICIT SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT ALSO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED, I THINK IS IS GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE I DON'T WANT TO SAY EYE OPENING, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO LIKE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO YEAH, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH I APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS DANIEL FOX, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE DISCUSSION ON AN EMERGENCY STORM DRAIN PROJECT AT DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.

[Discussion of Emergency Storm Drain Project –Department of Public Works]

KEVIN AND BRIAN HAD BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR PIPES ACROSS THE PROPERTY THERE HAS HAD SOME FAILURES ON IT.

SO WE HAD ASKED KIND OF KEVIN AND TEAM TO PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL OR SOME TYPE OF IDEA OF A CORRECTIVE ACTION SO I CAN LIKE, KIND OF KEVIN SPEAK TO THAT IF HE WANTS ON WHAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH AND THEN THE ESTIMATED COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

OKAY. WHAT WE HAVE IS A 54 INCH CMP, APPROXIMATELY 275FT IN LENGTH, THAT THE BOTTOM IS FAILING IN IT.

OKAY. [INAUDIBLE] APPROXIMATELY 275 FOOT.

THAT'S JUST MEASURING OFF GOOGLE.

YEAH. AND THE SIDE WALLS SEEM TO BE FINE AND THE TOP SEEMS TO BE FINE.

JUST THE BOTTOM OF IT'S DETERIORATED.

WE TRY. WE HAD MR. ROOTER COME AND TRY TO RUN A CAMERA THROUGH IT, BUT THERE'S ABOUT 12IN OF SEDIMENT IN THE BOTTOM OF THE PIPE, AND IT'S LIKE QUICKSAND.

THE CAMERA CAN'T CAN'T CRAWL THROUGH IT.

SO I WENT AHEAD AND CONTACTED A OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR ABOUT RELINING IT AND WHAT THE PROCESS HAD TO BE DONE.

AND IT DOES HAVE TO BE CLEANED FIRST.

THEN THEY'LL RUN A CAMERA THROUGH IT, AND THEN THEY'LL DECIDE WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE RELINED.

THE APPROXIMATE JUST A, YOU KNOW, A BUDGET NUMBER FOR THE.

FOR THE RELINING.

IS $875 PER LINEAR FOOT COMES OUT TO BE A ROUGH ESTIMATE ROUGH ESTIMATE OF $240,625. SO THIS IS NOT JUST RELINING THE

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THE PIPE IS APPROXIMATELY 12 TO 15 FOOT IN THE GROUND.

SO SINCE SHE'S THE AND THIS IS NOT A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET WE'RE OBVIOUSLY WORKING ON THE FY 25 BUDGET AS WE SPEAK.

BUT THIS IS KIND OF CREATING SOME ISSUES IN THE YARD.

SO WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO BRING THIS UP NOW AND TRY TO GET A GAME PLAN INSTEAD OF WAITING TO JULY 1ST TO TRY TO SECURE FUNDING AND A NEW BUDGET.

KEVIN, DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE ON HOW MUCH THE PIPE WOULD BE IF WE WE'RE GOING TO THE COST JUST THE PIPE FOR THE PIPE ITSELF.

I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS A THIS IS A CATCH BASIN, OR IT'S FROM THAT STREAM THAT COMES FROM ACROSS FIFTH STREET THERE. [INAUDIBLE] AND THE PROBLEM WAS WITH, WITH IF WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO REPLACE THE PIPE, THERE'S SEVERAL ISSUES. THE DEPTH OF THE PIPE.

YOU HAVE THAT BIO RETENTION POND THAT IT RUNS RIGHT NEXT TO.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO AFFECT THAT.

THAT GUARDRAIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN AND JUST A DISRUPTION IN THE YARD.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK EVERY LINE IS DEFINITELY THE BETTER OPTION.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY TO ME.

OH, NO. YEAH. NO.

WE MIGHT, DEPENDING ON THE COST OF THE PIPE.

I THINK YOUR INSTALL IS PROBABLY JUST NAPKIN MATH.

YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AROUND 80 GRAND AND EQUIPMENT AND LABOR TO DIG IT.

MAYBE 100.

SO IF YOU SAY 100.

IT MAY BE CHEAPER.

I WAS THINKING IT'D BE CHEAPER TO RELINE, BUT IT MAY BE CHEAPER TO RUN NEW.

WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR RELINING [INAUDIBLE]? I'VE NEVER SEEN IT DONE.

I KNOW THE STATE'S BEEN DOING A LOT OF IT, BUT I GUESS THEY GO IN AND CLEAN IT, JET IT OUT.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BYPASS PUMP SO NO WATER IS FLOWING THROUGH THE PIPE, I'M SURE.

AND I GUESS THEY'VE RUN SOME TYPE OF MACHINE IN THERE SPRAYS PLASTIC POLYMER OR PUMPS IT THROUGH AND IT SWELLS.

IT SWELLS UP IN THE PIPE, BLOWS IT UP.

YEAH. THEY ACTUALLY DRAG LIKE A SOCK THROUGH AND THEN INFLATE IT WITH AIR AND IT BLOWS UP LIKE A BALLOON.

YEAH. AND THEN SETS UP.

THAT'S RUSTED. BUT THIS WOULD BE A I MEAN, A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES DO IT ON SEWER, LIKE 8, 10, 12 INCH.

THIS HAS GOT TO BE MASSIVE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A BIG PIPE.

YEAH. SO SO KEVIN CAN PULL FIGURES ON WHAT IT WOULD COST TO GET THE PIPE ITSELF FOR THE FULL LENGTH. WE CAN CERTAINLY CIRCULATE THAT IN THE EMAIL ONCE WE GET IT.

AND IF WE HAVE A COST COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO.

I THINK THE BIG, BIG THING NOW FOR US IS, IS THIS A PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH AND TACKLE NOW, OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO INCORPORATE INTO YOUR FY 25 BUDGET AND START IN JULY? I VOTE TO TACKLE IT NOW.

I MEAN, IT'S I THINK MY PERSONAL OPINION WITH SINKHOLES IS YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WHAT'S THERE LIKE OTHER STUFF, YOU KNOW.

AND IT COULD IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU WAIT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT RIVER ROAD, IF YOU WAIT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SECOND TIME THIS HAS FAILED.

YEAH. I MEAN, A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

AND WE PUT A BAND-AID ON IT.

I MEAN, I CAN PUT ANOTHER BAND-AID ON IT NOW.

I GET A COUPLE MORE YEARS OUT, BUT WHO'S TO SAY THE NEXT SPOT IS NOT GOING TO FAIL NEXT WEEK? RIGHT. SO. RIGHT. YEAH.

WAITING.

I MEAN IT'S A STREAM.

IT'S A BLUE LINE STREAM THAT AT MINIMUM THAT FLOWS THROUGH IT.

YEAH. WE COULD CERTAINLY CHECK.

MY WORRY WITH THAT WOULD BE TIMING, OBVIOUSLY, TO TRY TO GET A GRANT OR SOME TYPE OF RIGHT FUNDING.

A LOT OF TIMES THAT TAKES A A YEAR PROCESS TO GET THROUGH DESIGN AND THEN APPLICATION.

SO WE WE HAVE FUNDING.

I MEAN, PROBABLY TEN YEARS AGO WHERE WE REPAIRED, I GUESS, PART OF THE PIPE.

BUT THE ONLY GRANT FUNDING, AT LEAST WE WERE ABLE TO WORK THAT IN BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER NONSTRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND THE STREAM RESTORATION.

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RIGHT. WELL GET US A COST ON ON THE PIPE.

I WOULD DO ACP,ADS.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR SUPPLIER.

THAT IS NEXT ON MY LIST RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. TRYING TO GET THIS FLOORING STRAIGHTENED OUT AT HAP'S.

[INAUDIBLE] THANKS.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS, KEVIN. THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS, DANNY.

THANKS, KEVIN.

ALL RIGHT. LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.

VICE PRESIDENT PORTER.

YEAH, I THINK WE ARE WINDING DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THE BILLS.

[2024 Legislative Session Update]

AND I THINK AS WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE BILL THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IN ANNAPOLIS IN CLOSED SESSION.

BUT I SHARE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE LANGUAGE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WE ARE HEADED OVER THERE TO, TO TESTIFY ON THIS BILL, BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK WE'VE GOT THE FINAL AMENDMENTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T CONGRESS WHERE YOU PASS SOMETHING AND THEN READ IT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S IN IT.

WE WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS WITH THIS, WITH THIS BILL.

AND THEN I THINK WE'RE SCHEDULED TO GO BACK OVER ON FRIDAY AND TESTIFY ON DELEGATE GRACE BILL.

SO THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE I THINK WE ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND AND MAYBE GET OVER THERE A LITTLE BIT EARLY TODAY.

AND SIT DOWN WITH THE DELEGATE, WITH THE SPONSOR, AND WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE LANGUAGE AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE.

SO THE OTHER THE OTHER BILLS DEALING WITH THE PER MEGAWATT CHARGE IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE DELEGATE, WITH THE SPONSOR, WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THAT.

OKAY. AND CARVE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS WE WANT AND THE ONE WITH ZONING, WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED VERY STRONGLY NOT TO TESTIFY IN PERSON ON THAT BILL, BUT THAT THAT IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE SHOULD REALLY TAKE A STRONG LOOK AT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BASICALLY PREEMPT ZONING WHEN IT COMES TO SOLAR.

AND WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DO THAT.

OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THE BILLS ARE WE ARE NOT MEETING TO REVIEW BILLS ANY LONGER ON WEDNESDAYS OR THE RURAL COUNTY BILLS.

SO I THINK EVERYTHING IS WINDING, PRETTY MUCH WINDING DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'VE BEEN INTRODUCED THE HEARINGS ARE BEING HELD.

BUT THOSE, I THINK ARE THE MAIN ONES THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY WE SHOULD PROBABLY TACKLE.

YEAH. SO THAT'S MY.

ALL RIGHT. AND THE BILL COMMISSIONER PORTER IS TALKING ABOUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS, 911 IS THE, WELL, THE SOLAR ENERGY, THE ONE.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE WE JUST NEGOTIATED A PILOT FOR LIKE $8,600 A MEGAWATT.

THIS BILL WOULD CAP THE AMOUNT OF TAX PER MEGAWATT THAT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT COULD, COULD CHARGE AT $2,500 A MEGAWATT. SO IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT TO CHARGE PER MEGAWATT ON THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.

NOW, I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON HOW CLOSE IT IS TO A TRANSMISSION LINE, BECAUSE IF IT'S A SOLAR ARRAY, NATURALLY HAS TO CONNECT TO A TRANSMISSION LINE AND THEY'VE GOT TO RUN MILES OF CABLE IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEN YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T AFFORD AS MUCH.

OR, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE LAYOUT IS LONG AND NARROW, WHERE THEY HAVE MORE SCREENING AND MORE FENCE TO INSTALL, THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE, YOU KNOW, THE COST PER MEGAWATT UP.

SO THEY COULDN'T SUSTAIN A HIGHER TAX BURDEN.

BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THAT.

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MAYBE THEY WOULD ONLY GO ON PARCELS THAT ARE MORE, YOU KNOW, SQUARE IN NATURE SO THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH SCREENING AND AS MUCH SO IT COULD IT COULD BE LOOKED AT AS A, A TOOL TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE SOLAR RAYS ARE, ARE SITED IN AREAS THAT ARE VIABLE OR MORE VIABLE SO.

WELL, I THINK THE PROBLEM THE POINT IS FOR ME THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE GREEN ENERGY AND I THINK THAT WE'RE BEING FORCED, YOU KNOW, ON ONE HAND WE'RE BEING TOLD, NO, YOU GOT TO HAVE THESE AND WE'RE GOING TO PREEMPT YOU, WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THIS, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH TAX REVENUE YOU CAN COLLECT.

IT'S JUST GONE TOO FAR.

I MEAN, LOOK, IT IT SHOULDN'T BE THE CONCERN OF THE STATE, HONESTLY.

IT SHOULD BE I MEAN, WE ARE ALL BIG PROPONENTS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND FREE ENTERPRISE.

AND TO ME, IF IF A SOLAR COMPANY IS GOING TO COME TO THIS COUNTY, WE SHOULD NEGOTIATE THE REVENUE STREAM.

WE SHOULD WE SHOULD NEGOTIATE WITH THEM WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.

AND WE SHOULD HAVE ZONING AND PLANNING.

YOU KNOW, INFORMATION IN OUR, IN OUR REGULATIONS THAT'S GOING TO CONTROL WHERE THEY GO.

SOMEBODY ON THE WESTERN SHORE SITTING OVER THERE SHOULD NOT BE TELLING US WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE CAROLINE COUNTY IS.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS.

SO SORRY.

I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT, BUT I DON'T CARE.

AND SO THEY'RE COMING TO OUR COUNTY.

THEY'RE AFFECTING THE THE LIVABILITY.

THEY'RE AFFECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS COUNTY.

WE SHOULD HAVE CONTROL.

JUST LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER STORAGE OF THE THE MATERIAL MATERIAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT LATER.

SO IF NOT, WHAT ARE WE? GETTING ALL DRESSED UP AND SITTING UP HERE FOR.

YEAH. IF WE'RE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CONTROL OF THESE THINGS, WE SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE BE HAVE TO JUST LET THE STATE CONTROL IT ALL.

YEAH, WELL I'M NOT I'M NOT DOING THAT.

SO WE'LL FIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT.

WE ALWAYS DO.

WE ALWAYS WILL. BUT THEY CAN.

I'LL LISTEN TO THEIR SIDE.

BUT. YEAH, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO OURS TOO SO.

ALL RIGHT, MR. BARTZ, YOU GOT ANYTHING? YEAH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. CONSENT AGENDA.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS, COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

[Consent Agenda:]

THE AGRICULTURE LEASE, IS THIS AN EXISTING LEASE THAT'S BEING RENEWED? THIS IS THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S BEING AMENDED TO REMOVE THE ACREAGE THAT IS IT'S IT WAS PURCHASED WITH OPEN SPACE FUNDS, SO IT'S AMENDED TO REMOVE THOSE ACRES.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A CLAUSE IN HERE THAT SAYS WE YOU HAVE TO GET APPROVAL BEFORE YOU PUT CERTAIN SOIL AMENDMENTS ON? I THINK WE NEED TO ADD THAT IN.

AND THAT THE OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS DONE PRIOR TO.

YEAH. BUT YEAH.

CAN WE DO THAT AND BRING IT BACK? DOES IT HAVE TO BE DONE THIS WEEK? I HAVE A FAIRLY LAYPERSON QUESTION.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? WELL, THERE SHOULD BE A NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT IS BEING THAT IS IN PLACE FOR WITH THE FARMER.

SURE. SO I GUESS PROBABLY THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO FIND OUT WOULD BE WHAT HIS NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AND HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO TELL US THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT PLANS ARE MORE CONFIDENTIAL THAN ANY NUCLEAR CODES THAT WE HAVE ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO THE PERSON TILLING THE GROUND IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADVISE US STEWART, I WOULD THINK, OR WE WOULD REQUEST THAT HE WOULD TELL US

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SO IS THIS IS THIS AN EXTENSION OR SO WE HAVE A REDUCTION OF ACREAGE OKAY.

THAT WE'RE IT'S IT'S MIDSTREAM OF HIS.

SO WE PROBABLY CAN'T CHANGE IT YET.

WE'RE PROBABLY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S RENEWAL TIME.

THEN WE'RE JUST AMENDING ACRES.

YOU ALREADY GOT A LEASE WITH US, RIGHT.

WE'RE JUST REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF ACRES THAT HE'S TILLING.

RIGHT. SO WE ALREADY HAVE A LEASE WITH HIM.

YEAH. WE'RE JUST TAKING ACRES FROM HIM BECAUSE HE CAN NO LONGER BE USED BECAUSE OF PROJECT OPEN SPACE.

RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO ADD IN THERE THAT YOU CAN'T USE DAF.

I THINK THAT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT OUR COUNCIL TELLS US, I THINK THAT ANY LEASE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH ANY FARMERS ON COUNTY LAND, WE EITHER ADD THAT PROVISION.

[INAUDIBLE] SO AND I'M TALKING ABOUT CERTAINLY NOT JUST STORAGE, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT APPLICATION AS WELL.

YEAH. WE'RE JUST I DON'T THINK WE DO IT ON THIS BECAUSE WE'RE JUST REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH HIM.

SO TECHNICALLY WE'RE SAYING, HEY, YOU HAD THIS AMOUNT OF ACRES, NOW WE'RE PULLING THIS FROM YOU AND WE'RE DOING IT.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAND LEASE AGREEMENT WE'RE TAKING RIGHT FROM HIM.

SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT IN THIS INSTANCE.

BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD.

BUT I THINK AT ANY TIME YOU CAN ASK FOR HIS NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT PLAN BECAUSE YOU ARE THE OWNER OF THE LAND.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S YOUR LAND.

SO THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT WITHOUT RESEARCHING IT.

I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH.

YEAH THAT MAKES SENSE LANDOWNER.

YOU'D HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

RIGHT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE NEXT TIME WE DO AN RFP OR FOR LEASES OF COUNTY LAND, THAT WE INSERT THAT PROVISION IN THE RFP.

SO IT'S NOT A BAIT AND SWITCH OR A HEAVY HANDED MOVE AT THE VERY LAST SECOND.

OKAY. SO YOU KNOW, THIS GOING FORWARD, I, I'D SAY I MEAN AFTER WE GET THIS HEY WE WANT YOUR WE WANT YOUR NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT PLAN, OKAY.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT OKAY, WE CAN JUST SEND HIM A LETTER SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE REQUEST YOUR NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT PLAN, RIGHT? YOU CAN.

THE ONLY CAVEAT I SEE IS THAT IT WOULD THEN PERHAPS BECOME A PUBLIC RECORD WHICH COULD BE OBTAINED THROUGH A PIIA REQUEST.

GOTCHA. AND IT MAY BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE FARMER IN SOME WAY.

SO WE'LL JUST WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ADDED IN.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD IT IN THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR LAND, THE TAXPAYERS LAND, NOT OURS.

SO. THAT'S.

YEAH, THE THE DAF PUBLIC HEARING MINUTES, I THINK ON PAGE 11, THE LAST FULL PARAGRAPH, LINE THREE, IT SAYS TRACED BY TO DAF. I THINK IT SHOULD BE TRACED BACK TO DAF.

AND THEN ON PAGE 12, PARAGRAPH 5, LINE 2 YOU HAD COMMISSIONER PORTER WAS REFERRED TO AS MISS PORTER. I THINK SHE CHANGED IT TO MR..

SO, YEAH.

BUT THOSE WERE THE TWO MINUTES CHANGES THAT I HAD.

SO OTHER THAN THAT I GUESS I DO HAVE TO ADD SOMETHING HERE ON THIS. DANNY, WE ARE.

I KNOW YOU GOT IT IN THIS THING HERE, BUT WE ARE TAKING THEM TO AUCTION, RIGHT? [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS GOOD. WELL, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE AMENDED DAF PUBLIC HEARING.

MINUTES CHANGES THAT I DISCLOSED.

SECOND. OKAY, MOTION.

AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE.

AYES HAVE IT. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.

[County Administrator’s Report]

THE SIPES ROAD CAMERAS THAT HAVE BEEN IN QUESTION FOR, I GUESS, A WHILE NOW.

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I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP, FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE, WE HAVE BEEN TAKING A LOOK AT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AVAILABLE IN THE TOWN OF DENTON FOR A SPACE THAT WE COULD RELOCATE OFFICE OF LAW, HUMAN RESOURCES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT SURE WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

WE CERTAINLY HAVEN'T HAD A FINAL DISCUSSION ON ALL THE SPACES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.

BUT THAT'S STILL A MOVING TARGET, I THINK.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A COURTHOUSE SECURITY ASSESSMENT DONE LAST WEEK.

LAST WEEK. YES.

[INAUDIBLE] I WOULD SAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESULTS YET.

THERE'S NO REPORT THAT'S BEEN SENT BACK TO US.

I'LL JUST SAY THAT I THINK WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

THE REPORT WILL PROBABLY COME BACK WITH MANY RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THINGS WE CAN DO DIFFERENTLY.

AND THOSE RANGE FROM SIGNAGE TO MORE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, INCLUDING THE PARKING SITUATION OUT BACK, WHICH HAS, FOR THE TIME BEING, BEEN PUT ON THE BACK BURNER.

BUT SOMETHING THAT I STILL HAVE ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO DO.

AND TWO OTHER THINGS LESLIE [INAUDIBLE] AND THE PLANNING AND CODES DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN REVIEWING IN DEPTH THE PR REPORT FOR WEST DENTON RELATED TO THE ANNEXATION AND EXTENDING SEWER OUT THERE.

SHE FOUND THAT THERE WERE SOME PROPERTIES THAT I THINK WERE INADVERTENTLY MISSED IN THE REPORT, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO BE INCLUDED.

SO SHE'S WORKING WITH BOB [INAUDIBLE] FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THEY HAVE A MEETING TODAY.

AND MACRON AND SCOTT GETCHELL FROM THE TOWN OF DENTON TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THAT REPORT.

SO THAT'LL BE ANOTHER.

WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED OUT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'VE CLOSED OUT THAT PURCHASE ORDER.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH FINANCE TO GET THE GET THE CHANGES MADE ON THAT.

SO AND THEN THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION MR. GLENN DOWLING FROM DENALI CONTACTED ME YESTERDAY REGARDING THE MORATORIUMS AND WITH EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN WITH THE RAIN THAT WE'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW AND THEIR ABILITY TO EMPTY ALL OF THE STORAGE FACILITIES THAT THEY HAVE IN CAROLINE COUNTY BY MARCH 8TH TO COMPLY WITH OUR MORATORIUM.

HE SAID THERE WERE 2 TO 3.

WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.

HOWEVER, I THINK BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION THEY ARE GOING TO APPLY THE MATERIAL TO THE FIELDS AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE. PROBABLY WON'T MEET THE MARCH 8TH DEADLINE, BUT THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT BE HAULING ANYTHING EXTRA IN.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING TO APPLY THAT STORED MATERIAL AND THEN THEY'LL BE DONE UNTIL NOVEMBER 1ST WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE.

THANK YOU, KATHLEEN. OH, AND I THINK DANNY HAD SOMETHING QUICK AND SO.

STACY AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON BUDGET, AND ANY OF THE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAD FROM THE ROUNDTABLE AND NOTES THAT WE WANTED ADDED INTO THE SPREADSHEET, AS WELL AS THE ONLINE VERSION.

SO ADVERTISEMENT HAS GONE TO THE PAPER FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL BE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING HERE IN THIS ROOM, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PAST, WHERE WE'VE GONE TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

WITH THAT, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP DURING THE ROUNDTABLE WAS SPECIFICALLY ON THE FIRE COMPANIES.

AND JUST KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT MOSTLY STACY TAKES WITH THEM GOING THROUGH ON THEIR STATE REPORTING AND COUNTY REPORTING AS WELL.

SO WE HAD SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL WITH THAT INFORMATION AND KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH EACH YEAR TO FACILITATE THAT.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW FURTHER FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.

BUT THAT'S I DO.

YES. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE THIS AS CLEAR AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, THAT THE REPORTING THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE INDIVIDUAL FIRE COMPANIES, WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHASE PEOPLE AROUND TO GET THAT INFORMATION. THE MONEY THAT COMES FROM THE STATE IS TO THEIR BENEFIT.

AND I WOULD I WOULD ACTUALLY EVEN LINK THE COUNTY MONEY THAT WE GIVE TO THAT TO THOSE REPORTS.

I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO TO OUR STAFF TO HAVE TO GO TRY TO SEARCH FOR THIS INFORMATION.

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I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY, BUT YOU KNOW, THE THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THEM TO RECEIVE THEIR [INAUDIBLE] MONEY SHOULD BE PROVIDED ON TIME IN THE FORM THAT IT THAT IT IS REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED. IF IT ISN'T, IT'S THE MONEY'S NOT THERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

WE DO NOT HAVE I KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FIRE COMPANIES TO WORK WITH.

I THINK WE WORK WITH THEM TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, BUT IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THAT INFORMATION IN THE COMPANIES THAT ARE NOT GETTING IT IN.

I THINK THEY SHOULD BE NOTIFIED OF THAT IMMEDIATELY.

SO. OKAY.

THANK YOU. DANNY THE OTHER THING WAS, DID WE HAVE ANYTHING IN FOR OUR LOBBYISTS TO COUNCIL? WE DID. SO I WENT BACK AND DID A REVIEW AND WITHIN THE COMMISSIONER'S BUDGET THERE IS A CONTRACTUAL SERVICE LINE ITEM.

OKAY. THAT WAS LEFT TO THE TUNE OF $50,000 ON THAT LINE.

OKAY. YEP. ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS GOOD. AND THAT GOOD? YEP. AND I ASK I ASKED DANNY THE OTHER DAY.

WE DID SOME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN HERE.

WHAT? JUST FROM MY CURIOSITY, WHAT OUR MOE NUMBER WOULD BE IF WITHOUT THE BLUEPRINT.

SO, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WOULD THE NUMBER BE IF IF BLUEPRINT WASN'T IN PLACE? SO YOU'RE YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT, I THINK, OR WE KIND OF TRIED TO FIGURE IT OUT TAKING A LOOK.

AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER BREEDING HAS LOOKED AT THIS AS WELL.

SO WHEN THEY PROVIDE IT THE THE FORMAT FOR FUNDING AT THE VERY RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS MASSIVE SPREADSHEET, THERE'S TWO COLUMNS.

THEY HAVE ONE THAT'S LABELED FY 25 MAINTENANCE OF OF EFFORT.

AND THEN THERE'S YOUR LOCAL SHARE CONTRIBUTION.

SO PRIOR WE WERE ALWAYS UNDER THE MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT, WHICH SHOWS ABOUT, IF I RECALL $15.8-$15.9 MILLION.

AND THEN NOW WE'RE ON THIS LOCAL SHARE WHICH IS TAKING US TO $17.8.

SO I WAS GOING TO INQUIRE WITH THE COMPTROLLER AT THE BOARD OF ED AND MAKE SURE WE WERE UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT FROM THE MEETINGS.

BUT THOSE ARE THE THE TWO COLUMNS THAT HAVE ABOUT A $2 MILLION SEPARATION BETWEEN THEM.

SO THE MOE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS COULD BE COMPLETELY BUT THE MOE WAS THE PRIOR, THE PRIOR YEAR, PLUS AN AMOUNT THAT WAS THAT WAS CALCULATED FOR NEW ENROLLMENT FOR NEW.

RIGHT. SO SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, I YEAH, I THINK THAT'S EVEN MORE REASON TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE UNLESS ENROLLMENT WENT DOWN, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM.

EXACTLY. SO, SO YEAH, I HAVE AN EMAIL THAT WE'LL BE SENDING TO AARON TO KIND OF ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BETWEEN THE TWO COLUMNS, BUT.

RIGHT. YEP. ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS. COUNTY COMMISSIONER, URBAN DISCUSSION PERIOD.

[County Commissioners Open Discussion Period]

LARRY. LARRY, WE WE TESTIFIED.

[INAUDIBLE] IT WAS LAST WEEK ON THE WEDNESDAY DAF BILL.

BILL NYE SEEMS LIKE A MONTH AGO, HOUSE BILL 991.

AND I ALSO TESTIFIED VIRTUALLY ON THE DISPARITY GRANT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO TRIED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE GOT A LOT WEALTHIER.

BUT I MEAN, SO IT WAS I THINK I WE WAITED FOUR HOURS TO TESTIFY TWO MINUTES.

SO PAR FOR THE COURSE, BUT BUT WE WERE ABLE TO I HOPE TO MAKE SOME POINTS ON THAT AS PART OF THE AS PART OF THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET RECONCILIATION BILL.

WE ATTENDED THE WE ALL THREE ATTENDED THE LINCOLN REAGAN DINNER, AND WE ALL THREE WENT UP TO GREENSBORO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO READ BOOKS TO KIDS.

AND KUDOS TO COMMISSIONER BREEDING, HIS WIFE, RACHEL, WHO I THINK DID A REALLY GOOD JOB PULLING THAT TOGETHER.

I PULLED I, I SELECTED A BOOK THAT HAD ONE LINE ON EACH PAGE.

SO SO IT WAS AND AND THE BONUS WAS THAT I GOT TO READ TO THE CLASS WHERE MY GRANDSON IS THE INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANT.

SO THAT WAS PRETTY COOL.

THAT'S THE ONLY TIME HE WOULD TALK TO ME WHEN I WAS UP THERE.

[01:05:02]

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

TO TO ELABORATE ON COMMISSIONER PORTER WITH THE READING.

I GOT TALKING TO READING TWO BOOKS.

SO YOU DID SUCH A GOOD JOB.

YEAH, IT WAS ACTUALLY, IT WAS A GOOD TIME.

THE KIDS, THEY WERE THEY WERE JUST A JOY.

I HAD A GREAT GREAT TIME DOING IT.

THE THE LAST WEDNESDAY WE WENT TO ANNAPOLIS.

I GOT TO EXPERIENCE COMMISSIONER PORTER IN ACTION IN MACO AND AND MR. BREEDING, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DOES IT, BUT I JUST COMMEND LARRY FOR HIS LEGISLATIVE WORK.

JUST I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU'LL BE GLAD WHEN THE END OF THE MONTH'S OVER AND IT'LL BE DONE ALL WRAPPED UP, AND I CAN JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK DEDICATION ON THIS FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS ON THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL I GOT.

ALL RIGHT. MY WIFE DID PICK OUT, I THINK, THE LONGEST TONGUE TWISTER BOOK SHE COULD POSSIBLY PICK OUT FOR ME. BUT ANYWAY, I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH SAY IN THE MATTER.

SHE DID A GREAT JOB. YEAH.

SHE DID. AND THANK YOU GUYS BOTH FOR SUPPORTING THAT AND GOING UP AND DOING IT.

I WAS LAST WEEK I WAS CONTACTED BY MARK JONES, AND HE REQUESTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR HIS REAPPOINTMENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

DO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS WITH THAT? NO, I DO NOT. OKAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET STAFF TO GET US A LETTER TOGETHER AND MAYBE PUT IT ON THE NEXT CONSENT AGENDA FOR FOR MARK.

I THINK HE'S DONE A VERY GOOD JOB.

YEAH. YEAH.

SO HE WAS.

HE WAS LOOKING FOR THAT.

DON'T SEE.

I THOUGHT I HAD SOMETHING ELSE ON HERE.

WELL, I GUESS NOT.

MUST NOT HAVE BEEN THAT IMPORTANT.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I'D LIKE TO SAY PASTOR HINES, THE CHURCH IS HAVING A FISH FRY.

YES. YEAH. WHEN IS THAT? JUST SO YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WILL KNOW.

WELL, WE'RE HAVING ONE ON THE 8TH AND THE BIG ONE IS GOING TO BE ON THE 29TH OF MARCH. OKAY. GOOD FRIDAY.

SO YOU GOT ONE MARCH 8TH, WHICH IS THIS FRIDAY.

YES. OKAY.

YES. ALL RIGHT. WHAT TIME IS THAT? FROM 11 UNTIL SOLD OUT.

ACCORDING TO SUMMERFEST, IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG.

NO.

YES, SIR. AND YOU'RE UP HERE ON MARKET STREET? YES. 807 MARKET STREET.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

[Public Comment]

LEGAL ADVICE UNDER AUTHORITY, 2014 MARYLAND CODE STATE GOVERNMENT 3-305B, SECTION 7.

[Closed Session: To Consult with Counsel to Obtain Legal Advice]

MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL VOTE.

AYE AYE AYE.

ALL RIGHT. UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. TAKE A BREAK. YEP.

YEP. ABSOLUTELY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.