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>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE MARCH 12,
[Call to Order: Invocation- Pastor, Denzil Cheek, Church of the Brethren Ministries, Pledge of Allegiance; Agenda Review]
2024, CAROLINE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING, WHICH IS NOW IN ORDER.THIS MORNING WE HAVE OUR INVOCATION BY PASTOR DENZIL CHEEK OF THE CHURCH OF THE BRETHREN MINISTRIES OVER IN RIDGELY.
THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SO IF EVERYONE CAN PLEASE RISE.
>> LET US PRAY. LORD JESUS, WE KNOW THAT YOU BRING MERCY, LOVE, GRACE, AND HOPE TO EACH ONE OF US IF WE ASK.
YOU'RE THE ONLY HOPE FOR BEING FREE FROM THE EVILS THAT IS NOW PRESENT IN OUR COUNTRY.
WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING GIVING HONOR AND PRAISE TO YOU FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED US WITH.
YOU ARE THE SOURCE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD IN ALL OF US AND THE SOURCE OF ALL THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT WE RECEIVE EACH AND EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GIFTS AND TALENTS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO EACH OF US, YOUR HUMAN CREATION.
WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSINGS AND PROTECTION UPON THOSE WHO ARE SERVING OUR COUNTRY AROUND THE WORLD AND ALSO OUR LOCAL POLICE AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER HERE THIS MORNING AND WE ASK THAT YOUR BLESSINGS BE ON THIS MEETING AND ON EACH PERSON THAT'S GATHERED HERE TO LISTEN OR TO SPEAK.
WE ASK THAT YOU HELP TO GUIDE AND DIRECT THIS MEETING SO THAT IT WILL BE FULL OF WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, PRODUCTIVITY, AND CERTAINLY, RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR HELPING THE COMMISSIONERS TO ACCOMPLISH EACH ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT IS SCHEDULED BEFORE THEM THIS MORNING, AND ALSO FOR THE BUDGET BEING COMING IN THE FUTURE.
LORD, GUIDE THEM AND HELP THEM TO REACH THE GOALS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ALL PEOPLE IN CAROLINE COUNTY.
>> YOU TOO. DURING THE MARCH 5TH, 2024 COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING,
[9:05 President’s Closed Session Report Out]
THE BOARD HELD A CLOSED SESSION TO CONSULT WITH COUNSEL TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE UNDER GENERAL PROVISION 3-305B, PARAGRAPH 7, NO ACTIONS WERE TAKEN.ATTENDEES WERE THE THREE COMMISSIONERS, KATHLEEN FREEMAN, DANIEL FOX, MARY BERNESKI, STEWART BARROLL, CYNDY WATTS, AND KING BURNETT.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
[Public Comment]
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IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? NONE BEING SEEN, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS THE CAROLINE COUNTY 250TH ANNIVERSARY PROCLAMATION WITH MR. CHAD DEAN,[Caroline County 250th Anniversary Proclamation]
WHO'S HERE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION AS A MEMBER OF THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY COMMITTEE. SO THANK YOU.>> FIRST, I WANT TO SAY HOW THANKFUL I AM FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
THIS WAS VERY ENJOYABLE TO PUT TOGETHER AS HAVE ALL THE 250TH-ANNIVERSARY EVENTS SO FAR, WE'RE LOOKING TO PLAN AND EXECUTE MANY MORE IN THE FUTURE.
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S PUT THE WORDING OF THIS PROCLAMATION ON THE RECORD.
WHEREAS IN PRAGMATIC ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF A DESIRE FOR LATE COLONIAL DWELLERS AND PLANTERS NEAR AND ALONG THE BANKS OF THE CHOPTANK RIVER, TUCKAHOE CREEK, AND MARSHY HOKE CREEK TO DULY ENJOY MORE CONVENIENT ACCESS TO THE SERVICES OF A COUNTY SCENE, AND WHEREAS IN ENTHUSIASTIC GRATITUDE OF THE HONORABLE WILLIAM RICHARDSON OF GILPIN POINT, WHO AS A MEMBER OF THE MARYLAND HOUSE OF DELEGATES INTRODUCED LEGISLATION IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE COLONY ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 1773, TO CREATE CAROLINE COUNTY FROM PORTIONS OF DORCHESTER AND QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY.
WHEREAS IN JOYFUL APPRECIATION OF THE COLONIAL LEGISLATURE FOR ENACTING THE CAROLINE COUNTY BILL ON DECEMBER 15TH, 1773, ALLOWING THE INSTRUMENTS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO BE COORDINATED WITH ALL DUE HASTE, AND WHEREAS IN DIGNIFIED COMMEMORATION OF THE GAVELING OF CAROLINE COUNTY INTO EXISTENCE WITH THE FIRST COMMISSIONER MEETING AND COURT SESSION ON MARCH 15TH, 1774 AT MELVILLE'S WAREHOUSE, AND WHEREAS IN SOLEMN TRIBUTE TO THOSE LOCALS WHO HAVE SINCE ACCEPTED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DEVELOPING AND DEFENDING THE RURAL TRADITIONS OF CAROLINE IN ALL OF ITS SPLENDOR VIA AGRICULTURAL AND COMMERCIAL PURSUITS, LARGE OR SMALL, THROUGH DIVERSE FAITH TRADITIONS, AS SELFLESS MILITARY PERSONNEL, AS EDUCATORS AND PUBLIC SERVANTS OF ALL KINDS, AS DOCTORS AND OTHER HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, AS NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ACTIVISTS, AUTHORS, ARTISTS, ENTERTAINERS, AND ATHLETES, IN ADDITION TO MYRIAD OTHER INSPIRED CALLINGS AND VOCATIONS.
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED THAT WE, THE COMMISSIONERS OF CAROLINE COUNTY, PROCLAIM MARCH 15TH, 2024 TO THE OFFICIAL COMMENCEMENT OF THE CELEBRATION OF THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THIS VENERATED PLACE, AND ENCOURAGE ALL THE ROYAL FRIENDS OF THE GREEN GARDEN COUNTY TO REFLECT ON, PARTICIPATE IN, AND SUPPORT THE MANY PLANNED EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES OF OUR JUBILEE YEAR.
IN RECOGNITION AND SUPPORT OF THE MANY LOCAL VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY IN THE PAST AND PRESENT TO PROVIDE HISTORICAL INTERPRETATION AND ENJOYMENT FOR ALL. THANK YOU.
>> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE NAMES OF THE FIRST COMMISSIONERS?
>> THEY ARE MENTIONED IN THE SPEECH THAT PRECEDES THE PROCLAMATION ON FRIDAY.
>> [LAUGHTER] I BELIEVE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL THAT HAS BEEN AROUND THAT LONG. [LAUGHTER]
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
DID YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?
>> JUST BEHIND OR FRONT OF THE [INAUDIBLE].
IF YOU COULD JUST OPEN IT UP AND HAVE THE.
>> NEXT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE MR. KEN KOZEL, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF SHORE REGIONAL HEALTH. IS THAT CORRECT?
[University of Maryland Shore Regional Health Update]
>> KATHY DEOUDES, CHAIR, KEITH MAGMAHUM BOARD MEMBER, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING. IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER.
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GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE. AT THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION, WE TALKED ABOUT BLESSINGS.PERSONALLY, I CONSIDER IT A BLESSING TO BE HERE TODAY WITH YOU.
YOU HAVE BEEN PARTNERS, YOU HAVE BEEN FRIENDS OF SHORE REGIONAL HEALTH SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A DOZEN YEARS.
I JUST GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE TO HELP IMPROVE THE HEALTH CARE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.
TODAY, OUR INTENT IS TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH REGARD TO THE REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER.
BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO JUST STEP BACK FOR A FEW MINUTES AND JUST SHARE SOME OF THE RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD AND THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME OF THE VOLUMES THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY WITH SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER.
WE PUT A BRIEF POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TOGETHER FOR YOU.
AS A CEO, HAVE POWERPOINT, WE'LL TRAVEL.
BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
I KNOW WE'RE TIGHT ON TIME, BUT I'LL GO THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICKLY.
WE'LL START WITH THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> THIS IS ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY SHORT MEETING FOR US BY OUR STANDARDS SO FAR. [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S INDEED JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS.
WELL, I WILL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, BUT PLEASE STOP ME ANY TIME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
A QUICK AGENDA. WE'LL JUST GO OVER THE STATUS OF HEALTHCARE IN AMERICA TODAY.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SHORE REGIONAL HEALTH AND HOW WE'VE BEEN TRANSFORMING CARE OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS OR SO ON THE MID-SHORE, AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE EASTERN REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER.
RURAL HEALTH CARE. YOU CAN SEE THE SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE STATISTICS.
IT'S PRETTY DAUNTING WITH RURAL HEALTH CARE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WHAT YOU'LL NOTE IS THAT 191 RURAL HOSPITALS HAVE CLOSED SINCE 2005 AND THERE ARE OVER 600 AT RISK FOR CLOSURE TODAY.
THAT'S A PRETTY DAUNTING TASK.
YOU CAN SEE THAT MANY OF THOSE HOSPITALS ACROSS THE US HAVE STOPPED PROVIDING SERVICES AND HAVE REALLY CHANGED THE WAY THEY PROVIDE CARE AND THAT'S HAD A PRETTY DRAMATIC EFFECT ON HEALTH CARE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
BUT WE AT SHORE REGIONAL HEALTH HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO PREVENT THAT IN OUR REGION.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED MANY DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS THAT CONTINUE TO PROVIDE HEALTH CARE LOCALLY, BUT ALSO PROVIDE THE HIGHER LEVEL, MOST EXPENSIVE CARE ON A REGIONAL BASIS.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A QUICK MAP OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND AND WHERE YOU SEE THE GREEN COUNTIES OUTLINE, THAT'S WHERE THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND MEDICAL SYSTEM HAS A PRESENCE IN THE STATE.
WE REPRESENT ABOUT 25% OF THE HEALTH CARE OF ALL HEALTH CARE IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND.
TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE BOX, AND THAT'S WHERE SHORE REGIONAL HEALTH PROVIDES PRIMARY SERVICES TO OUR REGION.
WE COVER THE FIVE COUNTIES OF THE MID-SHORE.
YOU CAN SEE WE COVER FROM KENT DOWN TO DORCHESTER COUNTY.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BLOW-UP OF THAT FIVE-COUNTY REGION.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF WHY WE'RE CONSIDERED RURAL, OUR PRIMARY SERVICE AREA COVERS OVER 2,000 SQUARE MILES OF DISTANCE, BUT WE ONLY HAVE 172 RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY SO WE ARE CONSIDERED RURAL FOR THE CARE THAT WE PROVIDE.
THIS SLIDE REALLY FOCUSES ON SOME OF THE TRANSFORMATIVE HEALTH CARE THAT WE'VE PROVIDED OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS.
YOU CAN PICK YOUR FAVORITE COUNTY AS YOU GO AROUND THE CIRCLE THERE AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'VE OFFERED OR CREATED AS PART OF TRYING TO PREVENT CLOSURES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO ENHANCE HEALTH CARE LOCALLY, BUT ALSO CREATE THAT REGIONAL APPROACH TO THE HIGHER LEVELS OF CARE.
I REALLY WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND TO CALL OUT THIS SLIDE AND SHARE WITH YOU SOME STATISTICS ON CAROLINE COUNTY THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER HERE.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST FORAYS THAT WE HAD IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT WAS TOUGH GETTING INTO PRIMARY CARE.
AFTER HOURS AND WEEKENDS WAS IMPOSSIBLE.
I'M SO PLEASED TO SHARE THAT JUST IN THE PAST FISCAL YEAR, AND WE'LL CALL THAT FISCAL '23, 16,282 URGENT CARE VISITS AT OUR URGENT CARE FACILITY HERE IN DENTON.
THAT IS THE BUSIEST URGENT CARE CENTER WE HAVE OF THE 12 THAT WE'VE GOT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND MEDICAL SYSTEM.
IT IS SEEING PATIENTS SIX DAYS A WEEK AND REALLY PROVIDING GREAT CARE.
IN FISCAL '24, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 6, 7 MONTHS OF DATA, BUT ALREADY WE'RE OUTPACING LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS BY AT LEAST 1,000 MORE VISITS THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
LET'S TALK ABOUT DIAGNOSTIC SERVICES FOR A SECOND.
X-RAYS LABS, REHABILITATIVE SERVICES OFFERED IN THE COMMUNITY.
FOUR THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED X-RAYS, 37,000 LABORATORY TESTS HAVE BEEN PERFORMED HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY.
SIXTY-ONE HUNDRED REHAB VISITS ALONE IN OUR REHAB FACILITY.
INCREDIBLE DIAGNOSTIC AND SUPPORT AND CLINICAL SERVICES.
LET'S TALK FOR A SECOND ABOUT PRIMARY CARE VISITS.
WE'VE GOT PRIMARY CARE IN THE DENTON MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.
TWELVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SIX PRIMARY CARE VISITS LAST YEAR, AND WE'RE ON PACE THIS YEAR TO HAVE OVER 15,000 PRIMARY CARE VISITS IN OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN DENTON AND CAROLINE COUNTY.
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DIABETES 1,800 VISITS, OBGYNS, 212 OBGYN VISITS, 171 PULMONARY VISITS WITH OUR SPECIALISTS IN PULMONOLOGY, AND 329 VISITS FOR UROLOGY.OUR SPECIALISTS, OUR PRIMARY CARES, ARE SEEING PATIENTS ACTIVELY IN OUR MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, OUR URGENT CARES ARE DOING PHENOMENALLY WELL, AND IT'S JUST PROVIDING GREAT LOCAL CARE FOR OUR COMMUNITY HERE.
AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED ACUTE CARE OR IF YOU NEED HEALTHCARE SERVICES, OR EMERGENCY CARE SERVICES, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO COME TO THE EASTON FACILITY FOR THAT REGIONAL CARE.
PRETTY EXTENSIVE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH SOME PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED AS WELL.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT WE PROVIDE, BUT IT'S ABOUT CREATING PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN OUR REGION AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE JUST SOME OF THE KEY PARTNERS HERE THAT WE HAVE IN THE MID-SHORE REGION THAT IMPACT THE CARE THAT WE PROVIDE THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR RESOURCES OF WORKFORCE, AND I KNOW YOUR COUNTY SUPPORTS CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE FINANCIALLY AND IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO OUR REGION BECAUSE NOW IT'S NOT ONLY FOR NURSING CARE BUT IT'S ALSO FOR LABORATORIES, FOR X-RAY TECHS, FOR SURGE TECHS.
THEY ARE A PRIMARY RESOURCE FOR WORKFORCE FOR OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHER CHOPTANK COMMUNITY HEALTH, CRITICAL PARTNER OF OURS, PROVIDING PRIMARY CARE, DENTAL CARE, AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES IN OUR REGION.
PARTNERSHIPS ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND WE RELY ON THOSE PARTNERSHIPS TO EXPAND THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT WE PROVIDE.
THESE ARE EVEN SOME OF THE ENHANCED SERVICES THAT WE'RE OFFERING TO ENHANCE THE LEVEL OF HEALTH CARE THAT WE OFFER.
WE KNOW THAT WE NEED MORE PRIMARY CARE IN THIS REGION, SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK HARD TO CONTINUE TO ADD PRIMARY CARE THROUGHOUT THE FIVE COUNTIES OF THE MID-SHORE.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE IS A RESIDENCY PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH DR. BRUCE JARRELL ON.
DR. JARRELL IS A RESIDENT OF CAROLINE COUNTY.
HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND, BALTIMORE AND HE IS WORKING HARD TO HELP US BRING PRIMARY CARE RESIDENTS TO THE EASTERN SHORE.
MUCH NEEDED, GREAT PARTNERSHIP, GREAT COLLABORATION.
GERIATRICS; HAVING A SPECIALIST HERE FOR OUR AGING POPULATION.
HUGE INVESTMENTS IN WOMEN'S HEALTH.
WE KNOW THAT WOMEN'S HEALTH IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE ARE SOME MAJOR INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO ENHANCE THE CARE AND DELIVERY OF MOM AND BABY WHEN THEY'RE AT THE HOSPITAL IN EASTON.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE NOW 24/7 365. OB HOSPITALISTS.
THESE ARE PHYSICIANS ON-SITE IN OUR HOSPITAL TO HELP WITH THE DELIVERY PROCESS.
ANESTHESIA AS WELL, AND PEDIATRIC HOSPITALISTS PRESENT IN OUR HOSPITALS 24/7 TO HELP WITH THE DELIVERY PROCESS.
WE'RE INVESTING IN CANCER CARE WITH THE GYN ONCOLOGISTS AND WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING OUR AFFILIATION WITH THE GREENEBAUM CANCER CENTER IN MARYLAND.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST CANCER PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTRY.
THEN SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES IN NEUROSCIENCES AND VASCULAR CARE AS WELL, SO MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS, CONTINUING TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THE HEALTH CARE OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
NOW WE'LL TAKE THE PLANE DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT THE REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER QUICKLY.
JUST TO ACCLIMATE YOU TO WHERE THE SITE WILL BE IS ON THE FAR RIGHT OF THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE ROUTE 50.
AT THE TOP, YOU SEE THE TALBOT COUNTY COMMUNITY CENTER ON ROUTE 50.
IF YOU'RE HEADING FROM THE BAY BRIDGE TOWARDS OCEAN CITY, YOU'LL PASS THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON YOUR RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
IF YOU MAKE THAT ENTRANCE TODAY INTO THAT COMMUNITY CENTER PARKING LOT, THAT WILL BE THE HOSPITAL ENTRANCE PARKING LOT MOVING FORWARD.
WE OWN THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
YOU CAN SEE THE RED CIRCLE THERE IN THE CENTER, THAT WILL BE THE CENTER ENCIRCLES THE HOSPITAL.
IT'LL BE DIRECTLY IN THE CENTER OF THAT CIRCLE.
WITH THE HOSPITAL, YOU CAN SEE SOME ENABLING STEPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO GET THE SITE READY.
THE GREEN LINE, IT'S RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH THE CENTER WHERE THE HOSPITAL WILL BE LOCATED IS ROUTE 662.
WE'LL HAVE TO RELOCATE THAT AROUND THE CIRCLE.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THE HOSPITAL WILL BE AND IT'S GOT PLENTY OF ACREAGE TO EXPAND AND MOVE SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE IN EASTON TODAY ONTO THAT CAMPUS OVER TIME. NEXT SLIDE.
JUST A BLOCK DIAGRAM OF A SIX-STORY BUILDING WITH EVERYTHING FROM BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TO REHAB, INPATIENT BEDS, ICUS, OBSTETRIC CARE, AND OF COURSE, ALL OF THE MED SURGE INPATIENT CARE THAT'S NEEDED FOR HEALTH CARE.
FOR ACUTE CARE, WE'LL ALSO HAVE SEVEN OPERATING ROOMS, TWO CATH LABS, AND ONE ELECTROPHYSIOLOGY LAB ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
THEY'LL BE THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AND THE OBSERVATION ROOMS. IN TOTAL, THERE'S 149 BEDS IN THIS FACILITY.
TWENTY-NINE MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE STATE OF MARYLAND.
THE NEW HOSPITAL WILL HAVE 147 BEDS.
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YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN BY MEDICAL, SURGICAL, ICU REHAB, PSYCHIATRIC BEDS, AND WE ARE LICENSED FOR 118 TODAY.NEXT SLIDE. SOME GREAT NEWS HAPPENED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
WE ACCOMPLISHED TWO MAJOR FEATS IN THE PURSUIT OF BUILDING THE NEW HOSPITAL IN EASTON.
THE FIRST WAS THAT WE RECEIVED THE CERTIFICATE OF NEED APPROVAL FROM THE STATE OF MARYLAND.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS FAR IN OUR JOURNEY TO BUILD A NEW HOSPITAL HERE IN EASTON, TO GET STATE APPROVAL FOR THE HOSPITAL.
NOT ONLY DID THEY GIVE US UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR THE HOSPITAL, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE ASKED FOR WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF BEDS AND ORS, AND ER TREATMENT ROOMS, ET CETERA, WERE ALL APPROVED.
WE REALLY TRIED TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER SOURCE IN THE FIVE-COUNTY COMMUNITY FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES, SO WHEN WE'RE BUSY, WE NEED TO HAVE THE SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE PATIENTS.
WHAT YOU ALSO SEE ON THIS SLIDE IS SOME OF THE COST BREAKDOWN OF THE NEW FACILITY.
IN TOTAL, IT'S ABOUT $540 MILLION.
ALSO IN JANUARY, WE RECEIVED GREAT NEWS FROM GOVERNOR WES MOORE AND THE STATE OF MARYLAND.
WE ASKED THE GOVERNOR TO PUT $100 MILLION IN HIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE NEW HOSPITAL IN EASTON.
WE FOUND OUT ON JANUARY 17TH THAT THE GOVERNOR DID IN FACT INCLUDE THAT IN HIS BUDGET.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TESTIFYING TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE AS WE SPEAK TO KEEP THAT MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL 25 AND FOR THE REST OF THE FUNDS THROUGH FISCAL 28.
BUT THE TOTAL IS 100 MILLION THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS PLEDGED FOR OUR PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SOURCES OF OTHER FUNDS WILL BE COMING FROM TO ABSORB THE COST OF $540 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT.
I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT THE SECOND AREA ON THAT SLIDE, AND THAT'S PHILANTHROPY AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FUNDING.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO RAISE $50 MILLION IN LOCAL PRIVATE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT'S A BIG DEAL. IT'S THE BIGGEST PROJECT.
I THINK THE MIDSHORE IS GOING TO SEE FOR DECADES TO COME.
WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO RAISE AS MUCH AS WE CAN. NEXT SLIDE.
HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. I MENTIONED 100 MILLION FROM THE GOVERNOR.
THE LEGISLATURE WILL VOTE ON THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET ON APRIL 1ST.
WE EXPECT TO HEAR HOW THAT GOES RIGHT AFTER THAT VOTE.
BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL AND OPTIMISTIC THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL KEEP THE BUDGET AS THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED.
THE CERTIFICATE OF NEED HAS BEEN APPROVED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
WE RECEIVED MHCC SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RATE NEGOTIATION WITH THE HEALTH SERVICES COST REVIEW COMMISSION AS WE SPEAK.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED AN INCREASE IN RATES TO OFFSET THE COST OF INTEREST AND DEPRECIATION FOR THE HOSPITAL.
THAT NEGOTIATION WILL TAKE PLACE, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL RESOLVE IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.
IF THINGS GO TO PLAN, THEN WE HAVE ALSO STARTED THE FUNDRAISING FOR THE $50 MILLION FOR LEAD GIFTS FOR THIS PROJECT.
NEXT SLIDE. A QUICK TIMELINE AS TO WHERE WE ARE AND HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GET A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND.
AS YOU CAN SEE, BOARD APPROVAL STARTED IN 2022, CON APPROVED IN JANUARY OF 2024.
THIS SPRING, AGAIN, THE HSCRC RATE DECISION IS EXPECTED.
WE'LL GO TO THE UMMS BOARD IN THE SUMMER OF 2024.
WE'RE HOPING AT THE JUNE UMMS BOARD MEETING, WE'LL ASK KEITH MCMAHON AND THE REST OF THE UMMS BOARD TO APPROVE OUR PROJECT.
IF WE RECEIVE APPROVAL, THEN WE'LL START ENABLING THE PROPERTY THIS SUMMER, WE'LL START MOVING SOME DIRT AROUND AND GETTING THE PROPERTY READY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THEN BY THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR OF 2025, WE'LL START THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
IT'LL TAKE ABOUT THREE YEARS TO BUILD AND A LITTLE BIT OF ENABLING FROM SPRING TO SUMMER, BUT WE EXPECT TO OPEN IN SUMMER OF 2028.
NEXT SLIDE. THEN THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES.
THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE HOSPITAL ON THE NEW CAMPUS. NEXT SLIDE.
FRONT ENTRANCE, IF YOU'RE WALKING IN FROM THE PARKING LOT ON THE FRONT ENTRANCE INTO THE MAIN HOSPITAL ENTRANCE. NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS THE BACK ENTRANCE WHERE EMS WILL PROVIDE DROP OFFS FOR PATIENTS NEEDING EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE FRONT LOBBY.
AGAIN, IF YOU COME IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE, YOU'LL SEE THE FRONT LOBBY WHERE YOU'LL BE GREETED AND ESCORTED TO YOUR DESTINATION. NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS AN ARTIST'S RENDERING OF ONE OF THE NURSING UNITS ON THE FLOOR WHERE YOU'LL SEE WIDER SPACES, ALL PRIVATE ROOMS IN THIS FACILITY.
WE'VE GOT OVER 20 SEMI PRIVATE ROOMS TODAY AND THAT'S REALLY CAUSING A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH PATIENT FLOW AND PATIENT MOVEMENT.
THESE WILL BE ALL PRIVATE ROOMS. IN THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT ROOM LOOKS LIKE.
NICE WIDE ROOMS, ALL ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY IN THE ROOMS. SPACE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS TO COME VISIT, EQUIPMENT, PLENTY OF SPACE TODAY.
YOU CAN'T EVEN GET A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND A FAMILY MEMBER IN A ROOM AT TIMES.
THIS EVEN ALLOWS FOR FAMILY MEMBERS TO SPEND THE NIGHT WHEN APPROPRIATE. NEXT SLIDE.
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IN SUMMARY, RURAL HEALTH CARE IS FAILING, BUT NOT ON THE EASTERN SHORE AND NOT ON THE MIDSHORE IN MARYLAND.BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT AND THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE IN BOTH LOCAL AND REGIONAL HEALTH CARE.
I CAN'T THANK YOU AGAIN ENOUGH FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP IN HELPING US PROVIDE THE RIGHT CARE, THE RIGHT LOCATIONS, ESPECIALLY HERE IN CAROLINE COUNTY AND IN DENTON.
THE REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER WILL BE THE LARGEST, MOST IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR ACUTE HEALTH CARE IN THE REGION.
IT REALLY IS BECAUSE OF THE UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD THIS FACILITY.
WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WITH ALL THE THINGS WE'VE DONE, WE WON'T BE ONE OF THOSE STATISTICS THAT I MENTIONED EARLY ON AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO THRIVE.
NOT ONLY SURVIVE AS A HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY AND A REGIONAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, BUT THRIVE FOR DECADES TO COME.
THAT'S OUR PLAN, THAT'S THE UPDATE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE STATUS OF HEALTHCARE ON THE SHORE.
>> WELL, IT'S BEEN A LONG RIDE AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.
AMONG MANY REASONS, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I'VE HUNG AROUND IS TO TRY TO SEE THIS, GET TO THIS POINT.
YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
I'M THRILLED TO SEE THAT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS HERE ABOUT UTILIZING THE URGENT CARE CENTER FOR EMERGENCY PATIENTS.
WE HAVE OUR EMS PEOPLE IN THE BACK.
THAT WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRANSPORTS THAT ARE MADE.
TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OF OUR AMBULANCE, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT OUR AMBULANCE SYSTEM FROM WHEN WE DID THE DEAL THAN ANYBODY.
BUT I THINK PART OF THAT HOLD UP FOR US HAS BEEN OUR TRANSPORTATION.
WE CAN GET PEOPLE THERE, BUT IF I'M CORRECT, THE PROBLEM IS GETTING THEM HOME ONCE ARE RELEASED.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE A SOLUTION IN THE PAST FOR URGENT OR EMERGENCY TRANSPORTS WHEN IT WILL WORK.
THE OTHER ONE IS PERIODICALLY WE HEAR ABOUT MOVES IN EITHER THE LEGISLATURE OR SOMEWHERE AT THE STATE LEVEL ABOUT THE MEDEVAC UNITS.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'RE IN PLACE AND GOING TO REMAIN.
IS THERE ANY TALK ABOUT THOSE? EVERY SO OFTEN THIS WILL CROP UP AND PEOPLE WILL GET VERY ANGRY AND VERY UPSET ABOUT THAT. DO YOU KNOW?
>> I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY ABOUT THE INVESTMENTS IN THE MEDEVAC PROGRAM.
TO THE CONTRARY, IT CONTINUES TO BE A FOCUS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND MEDICAL SYSTEM WITH SHOCK TRAUMA.
WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND SHOCK TRAUMA SERVICES AND GO IN FRONT OF THE LEGISLATURE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO EXPAND OUR SERVICES THERE.
TO THE CONTRARY, IT CONTINUES TO BE THE SHINING BEACON, I THINK, FOR SHOCK TRAUMA CARE CENTER.
>> EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THAT WILL CROP UP AS PART OF A REORGANIZATION OR SOMETHING.
WE CAN'T DO THAT ON THE SHORE.
YOU CLARIFIED THE BEDS BECAUSE THERE'S THIS URBAN LEGEND GOING AROUND THAT THIS FACILITY WILL HAVE LESS BEDS THAN YOU HAVE NOW, SO THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE MORE BEDS.
>> TWENTY-NINE MORE BEDS IN THIS FACILITY.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE COULD HAVE ASKED FOR 400 BEDS, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET APPROVED FOR THAT.
THE STATE HAS VERY SPECIFIC CALCULATIONS AND VERY SPECIFIC METRICS FOR WHAT THEY WILL ALLOW TO BUILD BECAUSE THE FUNDS COME FROM THE STATE FOR THE MOST PART.
WE PUSHED THE ENVELOPE THOUGH WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE COULD BUILD.
THE STATE PUSHED BACK AND THAT'S WHY IT TOOK A YEAR TO GO THROUGH THE CON PROCESS, BECAUSE WE KEPT PUSHING FOR MORE EMERGENCY BEDS, MORE INPATIENT BEDS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE TIMES OF THE YEAR WHERE WE'RE FULL.
WE HAVE BEEN FULL FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS AT OUR FACILITIES.
WE PUSHED, THEY PUSHED BACK, WE PUSHED BACK FURTHER AND THEY AGREED TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT THAT IS A STATE DECISION FOR HOW MANY.
WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT THEY UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED OUR REQUEST.
>> ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OUR STAFF IS TURNAROUND TIME FOR EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS.
I READ THOSE, KATHY'S IN THE BACK,
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SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE HOLDING OUR OWN WHEN IT COMES TO TURNAROUNDS AS FAR AS THE TIME TO GET THE PATIENT IN TO A BED.OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL HELP I ASSUME.
THE PLAN WOULD BE TO EVEN EVEN DECREASE THOSE THOSE TURNAROUND TIMES.
>> YES. THE STATE LOOKS AT THREE ELEMENTS FOR TURNAROUND TIME.
HOW LONG IS IT TAKING FOR THE HOSPITAL ER TO ACCEPT THE PATIENT FROM THE EMS PROVIDER.
AT THE SHORE, WE'RE AMONG THE BEST IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND IN THAT REGARD.
OUR NUMBERS ARE TYPICALLY LESS THAN 30 MINUTES PER DROP OFF, 90% OF THE TIME.
THE SECOND MEASURE IS THOUGH, FROM THE TIME THAT PATIENT IS SEEN BY A PROVIDER UNTIL THE TIME THEY'RE DISCHARGED HOME OR TO THEIR NURSING FACILITY OR WHATEVER, AGAIN, SURE IS AMONG THE BEST IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND FOR THOSE TIMES AS WELL.
THE THIRD TIME THOUGH IS THE TIME IT TAKES FROM THE ARRIVAL TO THE ED TO GETTING A BED AND BEING IN A BED IN THE HOSPITAL.
SURE IS AMONG THE WORST IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND FOR THOSE TIMES.
IT IS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE FACILITY WE HAVE, THE SEMI PRIVATE ROOMS THAT WE HAVE, THE CHALLENGES WITH THE HVAC SYSTEM THAT RESULT IN US CLOSING DOWN ROOMS BECAUSE IT'S TOO HOT OR TOO COLD.
YOU NAME IT. IT'S AN OLD BUILDING.
IT CREATES SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES AND THE FACILITY ITSELF IS NOT EFFICIENT AND FUNCTIONAL.
BUT OUR CHALLENGES, LARRY, WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON THOSE TIMES NOW.
WE CAN'T WAIT TO THE NEW FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THOSE TIMES.
WE'VE GOT A CONCERTED EFFORT TO REDUCE THEM, BUT IT'S AN UPHILL CLIMB, QUITE HONESTLY.
THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT BORDERS IN THE ER PATIENTS WAITING TO GET UPSTAIRS TO GET A BED.
THAT'S REAL. WE'RE EXPERIENCING IT TODAY, BUT OUR TEAM IS WORKING HARD TO TRY TO RESOLVE THAT WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES THAT WE'VE GOT.
>> OVER THE YEARS I'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE.
I THINK THAT THE POSITION THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN, AND I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK AT IT FROM MY STANDPOINT, IS HAVING A FACILITY, YOU KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BUILD A NEW ONE, HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEND IN THIS ONE? I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU'VE BEEN AND I THINK YOU'VE PROBABLY DONE AS WELL AS COULD BE EXPECTED IN THAT SITUATION.
NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT THIS LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL WITH THE CON PROCESS, I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS, EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE I STAND ON THAT PROCESS, BUT I THINK WE CAN LOOK FORWARD HERE.
I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO TAKE A REVISION IN GETTING PEOPLE THERE.
WHAT ROUTES DO WE TAKE? WHAT'S THE BEST ROUTE TO GET SOMEONE TO THIS NEW LOCATION? EVERYONE WILL HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT.
BACK WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS 15 YEARS AGO, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ABOUT 35% OF YOUR PATIENTS THAT CAME THERE WERE FROM CAROLINE COUNTY. HAS THAT CHANGED?
>> NO. THAT'S STAYED PRETTY CONSISTENT.
FORTUNATELY, THERE IS SOME TIME TO WORK ON THOSE ROUTES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH THE STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND OUR LOCAL AND STATE AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROUTES ARE AS EFFECTIVE AS THEY CAN.
BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT IN THE BUSY SUMMER MONTHS, TRAFFIC ON 50 IS PRETTY TOUGH TO GET AROUND.
>> TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE TOUGH TO GET AROUND BUT I THINK THE ROUTE NOW TO GET WORK TO YOUR CURRENT LOCATION IS GETTING TOUGHER AND BUSIER AS WELL.
>> I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, BUT I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ASK DO WE HAVE ANY PLANS FOR THE CURRENT BUILDING?
>> NOT YET. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REALLY TRYING TO GET THE FINAL APPROVAL FOR THE BUILDING OF THE NEW HOSPITAL FIRST AND FOCUS OUR ENERGIES THERE.
WE ARE DOING A FAIR MARKET VALUE ASSESSMENT OF OUR PROPERTY, SO WE'LL HAVE THE INFORMATION OF WHAT IT'S WORTH FROM A FAIR MARKET VALUE PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK AFTER WE GET THE APPROVALS AND WE START ENABLING THE SITE IS WHEN WE'LL START TALKING ABOUT NEXT STEP WITH THE EASTON HOSPITAL.
BUT WE'LL HAVE THE DATA AT LEAST, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MAGNITUDE WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
IT IS AN ASSET OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND MEDICAL SYSTEM AND IDEALLY, WE'D WANT TO CREATE THE GREATEST RETURN BECAUSE THAT RETURN WILL GET INVESTED INTO THE NEW HOSPITAL. THAT'S THE PLAN.
>> WELL, CERTAINLY, THANK YOU AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS THROUGH THE YEAR, CERTAINLY KEITH.
WAYNE CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY.
WE HAD A GOOD TALK AND CERTAINLY DR.
GERALD IS A TREMENDOUS ASSET AND TREMENDOUS HELP TO US.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS REPORT.
>> THANK YOU. AS ARE EACH OF YOU.
I KNEW I FLEW THROUGH THE $100 MILLION FROM THE GOVERNOR'S PLEDGE PRETTY QUICKLY BUT IT WAS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE EASTERN SHORE DELEGATION SAID, THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT ON THE EASTERN SHORE.
IT WAS BECAUSE EACH COUNTY SAID,
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THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THE GOVERNOR'S SUPPORT WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT.I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE FIVE COUNTIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT CONTRIBUTING TO THE NEW HOSPITAL.
CHUCK CALLAHAN FROM TALBOT COUNTY IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WE'LL ASK FOR SOME FUNDING SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
IF YOU CAN PUT THAT IN YOUR BUDGET, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
BUT JUST KNOW THAT WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO BECAUSE OF YOU AND AS A PARTNER OF YOURS AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT.
>> JUST ANSWER ABOUT ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE OTHER COUNTY. THANKS FOR THAT.
BUT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU, KEN, ON YOUR STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO THE HOSPITAL AND YOUR BOARD AND YOUR STAFF BECAUSE THE YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE HERE, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF NAYSAYERS SAYING KEN IS NEVER GOING TO GET THE CON, KEN IS NEVER GOING TO GET THE CON.
BUT TO YOUR ATTEST, YOU JUST STAYED STEADFAST AND YOU JUST FOCUSED ON IT AND GOT IT DONE.
I COMMEND YOU ON THAT BECAUSE I DID HEAR A LOT OF NEGATIVE BUT THAT'S AWESOME.
I WANT TO COMMEND COMMISSIONER PORTER BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT HEALTH CARE AND UPGRADED IT TO CAROLINE COUNTY OVER THE YEARS AND THAT'S FANTASTIC.
ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS RETENTION OF DOCTORS.
I TRY NOT TO GO TO DOCTORS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY AS AGE HIT'S ME, IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS.
I WAS HEARING LIKE, HEY, I'VE BEEN GOING TO THIS DOCTOR, NOW HE'S GONE AND THIS ONE'S GONE.
CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE ON THE RETENTION PROCESS ON WHY SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE ON THE SHORE.
IS IT IS IT A MONEY THING? JUST MAYBE YOU CAN ELABORATE.
>> SURE. IT IS HARD TO KEEP PROVIDERS ON THE SHORE.
SOME DON'T COME TO THE SHORE BECAUSE THERE IS NO SPOUSAL EMPLOYMENT.
I THINK THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE.
BUT THOSE THAT DO COME, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM.
THE RURAL LIFESTYLE JUST DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THEIR PARTICULAR INTERESTS.
THAT'S WHY I THINK THINGS LIKE THE RESIDENCY PROGRAM ARE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT GETS PROVIDERS WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE SHORE.
YOU EXPERIENCE THE SHORE HERE AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE KEEP PROVIDERS MUCH MORE OFTEN WHEN THEY COME TO THE SHORE AND SPEND TIME HERE AND KNOW THE LIFESTYLE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET WHEN THEY START SEEK EMPLOYMENT.
BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE. USUALLY IT'S NOT A SALARY THING BECAUSE WE OFFER COMPETITIVE RATES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TO KEEP PROVIDERS ON THE SHORE.
BUT WE'RE ALSO SEEING THOUGH, IS THAT THERE'S AN AGING POPULATION OF OUR PROVIDERS AND THEY'RE RETIRING.
IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO FIND THAT NEXT GENERATION OF CARDIOLOGISTS, ORTHOPEDIC PROVIDERS.
FORTUNATELY, THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE NEW HOSPITAL AND THE FACT THAT WE RECEIVED STATE APPROVAL, IT'S REALLY HELPING US IN THAT RECRUITMENT EFFORT ALREADY.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND YET, BUT ALREADY WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE FRUITS OF THAT BENEFIT.
I WANTED TO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR YOUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
MY TESTAMENT AND MY HARD WORK AND FOCUS IS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS MADE THIS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AS WELL.
THROUGH KATHY'S LEADERSHIP AND KEITH WAS OUR BOARD CHAIR AS WELL.
BUT KEITH HAS SERVED ON THE ARMS BOARD AND HE REPRESENTS THE EASTERN SHORE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND MEDICAL SYSTEM.
WITHOUT KEITH AND KATHY DRIVING THIS VISION AT THE BOARD LEVELS, WE WOULD NEVER BE AS FAR AS WE ARE TODAY SIR.
>> THE ORIGINAL MEMBER OF THE HEALTH TASK FORCE?
>> WE ARE THE ONLY RURAL HEALTH SYSTEM WITHIN THE 14 HOSPITAL SYSTEM, THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND MEDICAL SYSTEM.
I HAVE QUITE FRANKLY BEEN SURPRISED TO THE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM THAT BOARD.
BUT I THINK THEY RECOGNIZED WE'RE UNIQUE.
THEY ALSO RECOGNIZED THE LEADERSHIP OF KEN AND HIS SENIOR LEADERSHIP TEAM AND THEY TRULY BELIEVE IN KEN AND INSHORE REGIONAL HEALTH.
>> WELL, IT TAKES A TEAM. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING INDIVIDUALLY SO TEAM IS WHERE IT'S AT. WITH THE COUNTIES.
ARE THEY SOLID COMMITMENTS FROM OTHER COUNTIES? I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING FROM US YET BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE TODAY OBVIOUSLY, BUT SOLID FINANCIAL CREDIT FROM OTHER COUNTIES?
>> WE HAVE RECEIVED A PLEDGE FROM QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY.
THEY THEY ANNOUNCED THEIR PLEDGE AT THEIR LAST MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
TALBOT COUNTY IS JUST DOTTING THE EYE AND CROSSING THE T ON THE AMOUNT AND THE TIMING FOR THEIR PLEDGE.
WE ARE HERE TODAY. WE WILL BE AT KENT COUNTY AND DORCHESTER COUNTY IN THE COMING WEEKS.
>> I KNOW THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO COMMISSIONER PORTER.
JUST A LOT OF THINGS WAY WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN
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NEGOTIATION THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TO YOU HAVE TO LINE UP TO MAKE A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO YOU.I'VE TALKED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS.
BUT I MEAN, I'M I SUPPORT THE PROJECT 100%.
FINANCIALLY IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SEE HOW OTHER THINGS PLAY OUT TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE.
ONE BEING THE BLUEPRINT WHICH EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT AND WE JUST COMMITTED TO CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE TO THE BUILDING.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN PULLED BACK FROM THE GOVERNOR.
SO, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT COULD HELP IN CERTAIN SITUATION.
BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU TODAY. I MEAN, YEAH, YOU GUYS HAVE JUST TOOK A BOND SIDE AND YOU JUST KEPT FOCUS AND I TAKE SLOT FROM IT.
>> WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.
>> I JUST WANT TO THAT OVER THE YEARS I HAVE COME TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE PASSION AND ENGAGEMENT ON YOUR BEHALF IN PROVIDING YOUR CITIZENS WITH TOP NOTCH HEALTHCARE AND ACCESS TO IT.
I WANT TO LET I APPRECIATE THAT.
I HAVE A SPECIAL APPRECIATION FOR THAT AS ALMOST 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY, THE OTHER COUNTY THAT DOES NOT HAVE A HOSPITAL.
AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW AS THE BOARD CHAIR, KEN WILL TELL YOU AND KEITH WILL TELL YOU THE ENTIRE TIME I'M A MEMBER ON THE BOARD.
I FIND PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO MENTION OUR SHARED AND SPECIAL SITUATION WITHOUT A HOSPITAL IN OUR COUNTIES, THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR EMS AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT CAROLINE AND QUEEN ANNE.
SO, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE YOUR BACK, I UNDERSTAND.
WE CARE ABOUT ALL OF OUR COUNTIES.
I DO UNDERSTAND THEY JUST OPENED AN URGENT CARE IN QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
AND WE ARE SEEING NUMBERS NOT APPROACHING DENTON AT THIS POINT BUT CLOSE TO IT BECAUSE WE HAD NOTHING EXCEPT A CBS MINUTE PLAN.
>> YEAH, OUR SITUATION IS UNIQUE.
I MEAN, PER CAPITA WE PULL IN A LITTLE LESS THAN $2,000 PER RESIDENT.
SO WE ARE BY FAR THE POOREST COUNTY OF THE FIVE, AS FAR AS OUR TAX BASE AND TAXABLE BASE.
THE NEXT ONE BEING DORCHESTER, WHICH PULLS IN ABOUT 2,400 PER CAPITA.
THEN YOU SEE A BIG JUMP TO KENT AT 3,100 PER RESIDENT AND TALBOT 3,400 AND QUEEN ANNE'S AT 3,600 PER RESIDENT.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE HERE LOCALLY.
AS COMMISSIONER BARKS WAS TALKING ABOUT, I THINK A BIG PART AND YOU CAN TAKE THIS BACK TO TALBOT COUNTY AND SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES TO OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY CONTRIBUTE, AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT, WOULD BE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE LANDFILL EXTENSION.
IF WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT DEAL, WHERE THE SAVINGS FROM THE LANDFILL EXTENSION STAYS HERE IN CAROLINE, I WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT MAYBE USING SOME OF THOSE SAVINGS INCURRED TO PUT ONTO THE HOSPITAL.
WE STRUGGLE. LIKE I SAID, I JUST WENT OVER OUR PER CAPITA WHERE WE PULL IN TAX BASE.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT OUR DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AS A WHOLE TAKES UP ABOUT 11.4% OF OUR BUDGET.
THAT'S THE LARGEST BY FAR OF THE FIVE COUNTIES.
THE NEXT CLOSEST WOULD BE QUEEN ANNE, AT ABOUT 9% OF THEIR BUDGET.
I'M SORRY, TALBOT SPENDS ABOUT 9% OF THEIR BUDGET ON DES QUEEN ANNE'S, THESE ARE ROUGH NUMBERS.
IS AROUND 7.7% OF THEIR BUDGET, SO WE'RE AT 11.4 BY FAR IT EATS UP A LOT OF OUR SPENDING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, AND THAT'S BECAUSE ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTS EITHER GO TO DOVER, EASTON, OR SEAFORD, AND IT'S A PRIORITY.
IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY FOR PREVIOUS BOARDS.
IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THIS BOARD.
IT'S ON I THINK THE KEY RESPONSIBILITIES OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
COUNTY, IS THE DESIGN OF THIS FACILITY PRETTY EASILY EXPANDABLE? BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO SEE POPULATION GROWTH, I THINK.
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND THE SORT ANSWER IS YES.
WE'VE GOT CAPABILITIES OF EXPANDING OUR EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT SPACE, WHICH IS WHERE WE SEE MOST OF THE VOLUME.
THERE ARE LOCATIONS ADJACENT TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE WE COULD ADD TOWERS IF WE NEEDED TO.
IT'S EXPENSIVE, DON'T GET ME WRONG, AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER RIGOROUS PROCESS FOR APPROVAL.
BUT YES, IT DOES HAVE EXPANSION CAPABILITIES IN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FACILITY? Y
>> WHEN WAS THE CURRENT FACILITY BUILT?
>> DIFFERENT PARTS, DIFFERENT TIMES.
SOME OF IT IS OVER 100 YEARS OLD.
THE MAIN BULK OF THE HOSPITAL WHERE WE SEE IN PATIENTS WAS IN THE EARLY '50S.
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AND THEN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT RENOVATION, THE MOST RECENT, WAS IN 2006.IT GOES FROM 100 YEARS TO THE MOST RECENT AT ABOUT 15,18 YEARS.
>> I'LL JUST MENTION REAL QUICKLY ABOUT THE FUNDING CONTRIBUTIONS AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE HEARD BEFORE.
BUT THE BLUEPRINT, IT'S HAMSTRINGING US.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER COUNTIES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S A TERRIBLE PROGRAM.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY A FAILURE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
WE KEEP PUMPING MONEY INTO THIS, WE KEEP COMING UP WITH THESE NUMBERS.
AND EVERY YEAR WE HAVE OUR FINANCE PEOPLE WHO SIT THERE AND WAIT FOR SOME UNELECTED BUREAUCRAT SOMEWHERE TO TELL US WHAT OUR NUMBER IS GOING TO BE THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND.
THAT HAS A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT ON THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND FOR, THAT TAKES AWAY FROM PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, CONTRIBUTIONS WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.
BUT THOSE FUNDS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COLLECT ARE BEING TAKEN BY THIS ONE ISSUE THAT PEOPLE JUST CONTINUE TO BLINDLY KEEP FOLLOWING.
LIKE WE KEEP FOLLOWING THIS THING THINKING IT'S GOING TO WORK.
IT'S FRUSTRATING TO ME, I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING TO THEM AS WELL TO SIT HERE AND SEE THINGS THAT COME DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE THINK THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR HEALTH.
YOU AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
YOU CAN BUILD EVERYTHING YOU BUILD IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR HEALTH AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU CAN GO GET HEALTH CARE.
NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. REALLY IT DOESN'T, BUT WE CONTINUE TO SEE THESE BUDGET MANDATES THAT ARE FORCED ON US.
THAT ARE ERODING OUR ABILITY TO CONTRIBUTE, TO SPEND MONEY ON THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
I'M NOT SAYING EDUCATION IS NOT IMPORTANT.
THIS IS MONEY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PAYING.
UNTIL SOMEBODY CAN COME TO THIS CONCLUSION AND REALLY START STANDING UP, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME.
I'M THE MACO REPRESENTATIVE AND I KEEP BRINGING THIS UP AND I KEEP TALKING ABOUT THESE BILLS THAT WERE PASSED THAT REALLY DON'T MATTER.
WHY AREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT THIS? I KNOW IT'S A LEADERSHIP THING, AND I KNOW ALL THE POWERFUL PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF IT.
I DON'T CARE. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT HURTS NOT ONLY THIS SITUATION, BUT IT ALSO, THINGS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR AND INVEST IN FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.
>> WE APPRECIATE [OVERLAPPING] YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMITMENT [OVERLAPPING] FOR PROVIDING GOOD HEALTH CARE HERE ON THE SHORE.
>> GOOD SEEING YOU. THANK YOU.
>> LET'S TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK HERE.
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THE MEETING IS NOW BACK IN ORDER.[Lori Bishop & Charlotte Brown, Board Member, Caroline County 4-H Park]
OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS LORIE BISHOP AND CHARLOTTE BROWN,[Discussion of 4-H Park FY2025 Budget Requests]
BOARD MEMBERS FOR CAROLINE COUNTY 4H.DISCUSSION OF THE 4H PARK FY 2025 BUDGET REQUEST. GOOD MORNING.
>> I'M HOPING THAT YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK THAT I SENT IN. YOU DO?
>> GOOD. NUMBER 1, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WILLIAMS FUND THAT WE HAVE
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THAT WAS SET UP MANY YEARS AGO.WE HAVE ACTUALLY JUST BASICALLY FINALLY BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE FUNDS.
IT WAS WITH THE EXTENSION AND WITH BEING ABLE TO JUST WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AT COLLEGE PARK THAT WAS [OVERLAPPING].
>> ONCE THEY FINALLY GOT A LADY IN THERE, SHE PASSED AWAY, SO THEN THEY HAD TO REDO EVERYTHING AGAIN.
AND IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE WITH PAUL AT THE EXTENSION HAS BEEN A BIG HELP TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
WE'VE ACCUMULATED A RAKE A BIT IN INTEREST BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE CAN [OVERLAPPING].
>> SPEND. THE PRINCIPAL HAS TO STAY.
>> YES. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE DREW TWO DIFFERENT DRAWS THIS PAST SUMMER FROM THEM TO BE ABLE TO UPDATE THE STAGE AT THE FOUR EDGE PARK AND PUT IN MORE ELECTRIC FOR THE VENDORS THERE, WHICH WE NEEDED REALLY BAD BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING VENDORS LOSE ELECTRIC OUT TO THE FARE.
>> IN THE STAGE AREA, THE FARE BOARD, PUT THAT IN WITH SOME OF THE MONEY THEY'VE DONE THROUGH THEIR FUND RAISING.
>> WHAT WE'VE DONE IS GIVEN YOU THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN TO NOW TRY TO BUILD ON TO THE EXISTING BUILDING OUT THERE TO HELP WITH THE EXTENSIONS STORAGE, OUR STORAGE, AND ALSO TO BE ABLE TO PUT BATHROOMS BACK THERE INSTEAD OF THE ONLY BATHROOMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE AT THIS POINT, WHEN YOU STAY BACK THERE IS TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE WILLIAMS BUILDING [OVERLAPPING] OR THE MAIN BUILDING.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO ALSO PUT SHOWERS THERE SO THAT ALSO WHEN THE FAIR PEOPLE STAY IN THERE, THAT THERE IS ACTUAL BATHROOMS AND SHOWERS THERE.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY THAT WE'VE STARTED TO GET.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM MARY DELL AG, THAT'S FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WE'RE GOING TO DIP INTO TO THIS FUND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WHICH WE HAVE 121 IN THERE.
>> BUT WE WERE ALSO HOPING THAT MAYBE WE COULD PROPOSE A LITTLE BIT ON YOU ALL PART TO BE MAYBE THE SEPTIC OR THE WELL THAT WE COULD GET A LITTLE BIT OF HELP IN THE PROJECT.
>> SO YOU HAVE 121,000 AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S AFTER THE ELECTRIC UPGRADES AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
>> WE CAN ONLY TAKE A DRAWL OFF OF THAT MONEY ONCE A YEAR.
>> COLLEGE, WHEN WE DID THE UPGRADES THIS PAST YEAR, THEY SUBMITTED A CHECK TO THE VENDOR, SO THERE WAS NO MIDDLEMAN OR ANYTHING, SO COLLEGE PARK WROTE THE CHECK TO THE VENDOR AND WOULD SEND PAUL AN EMAIL LETTING HIM KNOW THAT IT HAD BEEN SENT AND PAUL FORWARDED TO US.
>> HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT YET ON SEPTIC LOCATION?
>> I'VE DONE WELL IN SEPTIC VERIFICATION, THEY APPROVED.
WHAT WE PROPOSED IS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE UPGRADED THE SEPTIC SYSTEM FOR THE WILLIAMS BUILDING, AND SO WE PUT A NEW TANK AT THE WILLIAMS BUILDING, IN THE LEACH FIELD, SO WE HAD ONE OF THE BIG CONTRACTORS COME OUT AND WHAT HE PROPOSED IS THAT WE USE THE EXISTING LEACH FIELD THAT WE JUST PUT IN AND HE PROPOSED THAT TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THAT.
I'VE DONE THAT, I'VE SUBMITTED THE PLANS FOR THE BCD PLANS WITH BUILDING WAIT ON THAT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON WHAT WAS GOING TO BE STORED IN THE BUILDING.
I I FOLLOWED UP TO BE NON HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.
SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE RESPONSE TO THAT BUILDING.
>> WOULD THIS REQUIRE A NEW WELL OR WOULD THIS JUST BE RUNNING A WATER LINE.
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>> IT WOULD REQUIRE A NEW WELL.
>> SO THE EXISTING WELL THAT FEEDS THE BACK OF THE PARK WHERE THE CAMPSITES ARE, IT'S A NON POTABLE WELL, SO THE PLAN IS TO PUT IN A NEW WELL THAT WOULD FEED THAT BUILDING AND CAMP SITES AS WELL.
>> I'M TRYING TO PICTURE WHERE THIS BUILDING IS.
>> IT'S DOWN TO THE LOT STOCK FARM.
IT'S THE TRIG FIRST AND FORWARD.
>> EACH HAS A MAP IF IT HELPS YOU.
>> IT'S ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE FAIR OFFICE.
>> IT WOULD STRETCH OUT THE BACK OF THAT BUILDING.
>> THERE WE GO. SO WHAT DO YOU USE FOR STORAGE NOW?
>> IT IS A VERY SMALL AREA IN THAT BUILDING.
SUPER SMALL, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE PUT STUFF IN THE FARM MUSEUM.
>> SOMETIMES IN THE HORSE BURNS.
>> SOMETIMES IN THE HORSE SOMETIMES IN THE HORSE BARNS WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF STORAGE OUT THERE AND THE EXTENSION IS ALSO RUNNING INTO THAT PROBLEM.
THE EXTENSION DOESN'T HAVE ANY STORAGE.
SO THAT WAS THE WHOLE BIG DISCUSSION OF THIS BUILDING IN THE GET GO WAS THE STORAGE IN GENERAL.
AND THEN WE WERE LIKE, WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME BATHROOMS THERE.
>> WHEN YOU DO HAVE THE FARE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE USUALLY YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL STAY THERE DURING THE WEEK?
>> I HAVE ABOUT 18 CAMP SPOTS AND 18 CAMPERS.
>> SO YOU THINK THIS WOULD HELP EXPAND IT IF YOU COULD DO THIS?
>> IT WOULD BECAUSE WE WON'T LET THE KIDS GO UP TO THE MAIN BUILDING.
WE TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO DO BUDDY SYSTEM OR THEY HAVE TO SOMEBODY HAS TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IF THEY GO UP TO GET SHOWERS.
AND ALSO, I KNOW WHEN THEY PEOPLE RENT IT FOR THE HORSE SHOWS OUT THERE THAT THEY HAVE, AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE BATHROOM SITUATION, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES JACK HAS ISSUES WITH THE BATHROOM WITH A HORSE SHOWS OUT THERE, TOO, WHICH THEN YOU WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO OPEN UP THE MAIN BUILDING.
>> SO WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FROM US?
>> WELL, WE WERE WE WERE HOPING THAT WE COULD ASK YOU FOR MAYBE THE SEPTIC IN THE WELL OR AT LEAST SOME OF THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TOO SURE THAT THE 121 IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR ALL THIS.
>> YOU SUBMITTED YOUR BUDGET REQUEST, IS THIS INCLUDED IN THAT?
>> NO. WELL, I DIDN'T REALLY PUT A BUDGET REQUEST PER SE.
IN THIS I WAS JUST TELLING YOU WHAT WE HAD AVAILABLE THE FUNDS, BUT I DON'T THINK ALL OF THE QUOTES ARE IN THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM TO ME.
>> I THINK JAMIE JUST PUTS THE BUDGET REQUEST TOGETHER RIGHT.
BEFORE EACH PARK BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER WITH RECREATION AND PARKS, AS WELL AS FINANCE.
SO JAMIE AND I SIT DOWN, TYPICALLY GO THROUGH AND PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER, AND I THINK THAT'S BEING PRESENTED INCLUDED IN,.
>> SO THIS WOULD BE CAPITAL, BUT I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
NOT REALLY AN OPERATING IMPROVEMENT.
>> WELL, YOU HAVE TO GO TO A WET SEASON TEST THERE.
>> THEY'RE SAYING THE FIELD DRAINS ARE GOOD.
>> WHAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT?
>> PROBABLY 20,000 I WOULD GUESS.
>> I MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
>> WE HAD NO PREVIOUS CONVERSATION DID WE DO?
>> AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT'S NOT THAT MUCH.
>> I THINK THE WELL, PROBABLY 12,000 AND THEN EIGHT TO RUN FIVE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT A WELL IS NOW.
>> SO THIS WOULD GO UNDER CAPITAL RATE, YOU'RE SAYING?
>> TYPICALLY, YES, WE WOULD DO THIS HUNDRED CAPITAL REQUEST.
>> WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE THIS A MONTH AND A HALF AGO WHEN WE STARTED THE BUDGET PROCESS AND COULD HAVE ADDED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE FULL PROCESS.
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I FEEL I'D BE REMISS NOT TO SAY THIS AS WE'RE SITTING HERE.THE FOUR AGE PARK AS A WHOLE IS A COUNTY OWNED ASSET AND IS RUN THROUGH RECREATION AND PARKS.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE ESSENTIALLY EXPEND ALL THE MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF THE PARK, AS WELL AS HANDLE THE RENTALS THROUGH RECREATION OFFICE.
EACH YEAR WE SPEND ANYWHERE $25-30 THOUSAND ON THE PARK, FOR UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE.
A NEW BUILDING WOULD ADD TO THAT BECAUSE OF UTILITIES.
YOU'RE EXPANDING THE SEPTIC, YOU'RE EXPANDING, SERVICES.
>> EVEN IN STAFF, WE DO CONTRACT ONE PART TIME CONTRACTUAL EMPLOYEE THAT ASSIST WITH THE RENTALS, ASSIST WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN AND OUT OF THE PARK, IN JUST ANY ON IN THINGS THAT THE MARKET TEAM REQUESTS THAT INDIVIDUAL TO DO.
I BELIEVE I GAVE YOU GUYS THE FULL BREAKDOWN OF THE PAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> RENTS ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN '24, LOOKS LIKE MAYBE. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT?
>> OR IS THIS A OLD NUMBER, THIS 2024 NUMBER?
>> THAT ACTUALLY IS A GOOD NUMBER.
>> AS OF TODAY. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE OBVIOUSLY MONTHS TO GO THROUGH.
OUT OF CURIOSITY, THE MONEY THAT WAS EXPENDED FROM THE WILLIAMS FUNDS OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, YOU SAID THE EXTENSION SERVICE PAID THOSE DIRECTLY TO THE VENDOR.
>> WAS ANYTHING DISCUSSED WITH RECREATION OR THE COUNTY ABOUT THAT?
>> WELL MARK COMES TO OUR MEETINGS.
>> THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS IF WE'RE EXPENDING OVER CERTAIN AMOUNTS.
I MEAN, IT IS AGAIN A COUNTY OWNED ASSET, SO THERE ARE THINGS WE LEGALLY HAVE TO REPORT AND UPDATE WITH OUR ASSET AND SERVICES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] HOW WOULD YOU LIKE US TO DO THAT? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE US THEN TO COMMUNICATE BETTER?
>> I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND COME UP WITH A PROCESS TO DO THIS.
>> INSURANCE COVERAGE, I GUESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INSURANCE COVERAGE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ASSETS AS A WHOLE OR DO WE WORK TO ASSETS, YOU HAVE TO UPDATE THE VALUE, YOU HAVE TO UPDATE [OVERLAPPING].
>> FOR OUR ACCOUNTING, REPORTING TO THE STATE, FOR OUR AUDITS TO IT.
>> I'M NOT SAYING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WOULD FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY.
BUT THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE'RE SPENDING 12,000 13,000 THEY'RE NOT SMALL, NOMINAL THINGS.
>> WELL ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
IF WE SPEND OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO A PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR, THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE YOU HAVE TO GET BIDS.
>> THE WILLIAMS FUND IS SEPARATE.
>> THE MONEY WAS COMING FROM THE WILLIAMS FUND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GET BIDS.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHO TOLD US THAT.
>> I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FALL FROM THE EXTENSION WHO TOLD US THAT.
>> YEAH, THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THEIR PROCUREMENT, I WOULD SAY.
RIGHT, DANNY? WOULD THAT FALL UNDER THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND'S PROCUREMENT PROCESS?
>> TO GET US OUT OF IT? I WOULD SAY SO.
>> I REQUEST THAT NOT OUT OF THE BE INCLUDED.
AGAIN, IT'S A COUNTY BUILDING.
>> THE ONLY THING IS IT'S NOT UNIQUE JUST TO THEM.
LITTLE LEAGUES DO THE SAME THING, BUILD CONCESSION STANDS, BUILD PARKING LOTS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DONE BY THE VARIOUS NONPROFITS GET REPORTED.
>> THIS PART IS ALL NEW TO US BECAUSE.
>> YOU DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE FUNDS?
>> YEAH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ACCESS AT ALL TO THESE FUNDS.
SO THAT IS NEW AND SO IF WE NEED TO REPORT THAT, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PRINCIPAL IS ON THE WILLIAMS FUND? WHAT THE INVESTMENT WAS THAT THEY PUT IN THERE?
>> THAT'S THAT'S THE INTEREST THAT IS COMPILED OVER THE YEARS THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO RIGHT NOW, AND THEN THERE'S A FUND SITTING THERE?
>> I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH THAT WAS.
>> I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE ACTUAL CORPUS AMOUNT WAS WHAT WAS PUT THAT CAN'T BE TOUCHED 199 THAT IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
>> I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT CORPUS MEANT.
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>> THAT'S A NEW ONE. I LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY.
>> SOMETIMES CALLED PRINCIPLE.
>> YEAH. I GUESS IF MARK IS NOT OUR LIAISON TO BE ABLE TO THAT, THEN DO WE NEED YOU IN ON ALL OF THAT TO BE ABLE TO.
YOU JUST NEED TO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT FROM US TO BE ABLE TO WORK AMPLY TOGETHER.
>> YEAH. I WOULD SAY IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT DEALS WITH FINANCE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY FINANCE SO THAT WE.
>> I WOULD JUST REPORT ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR PLAN FUNDING OR REQUESTS TO THEM.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT OVER FROM PAINTING THE FLOOR OR ANY PREVIOUS YEARS IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAD ALLOCATED? JAMIE DID WE DO THE ABATEMENT OF THE RANGE OR IS IT NOT?
>> APRIL FOOLS THAT BUT ACTUALLY NOT.
>> IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
AS IT AS IT STANDS, THERE WILL BE SOME RESIDUAL LEFT.
IT'S ALREADY ALLOCATED OR WE COULD REALLOCATE THAT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHATEVER WAS LEFT IN THAT PROFIT.
>> 24, 25,000 WHAT WE'RE THINKING, IT'S BY HAPPENSTANCE.
>> THAT WAS THAT'LL BE FROM THE LEAD ABATEMENT.
THE FLOOR PAINTING IS DONE ON NIGHT.
>> LOOKS FANTASTIC. YEAH. THAT WAS A BIG IMPROVEMENT.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY.
YOU'VE GOT A SUM OF MONEY THAT YOU CAN PUT YOUR HANDS ON TO DO THE BUILDING EXTENSION AND YOU WANT YOU NEED MONEY TO PICK UP THE WELL IN SEPTIC.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT BUT YOU KNOW THE RANGE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND, LET'S SAY 25,000.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH UTILIZING THE LEFTOVER MONEY OR IF WE HAVE TO MAKE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY WOULD BE, AS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY, THIS IS OUR BOOK AND IF IT ISN'T IN THIS BOOK, THEN WE DON'T CONSIDER IT.
THERE'S ENOUGH TO CONSIDER IN HERE AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST THAT WOULD BE A FUTURE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, IF YOU HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OR IF YOU HAVE A BUDGET REQUEST, IF YOU GO THROUGH PARKS AND REC, IT'S GOT TO BE MENTIONED, IT'S GOT TO BE PUT IN HERE SO WE CAN SEE IT.
THE BIG THING IS, AS DANNY WAS TALKING ABOUT, IS THE ADVERTISEMENT AND ALL THE STATUTORY THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND JUST TRANSPARENCY.
>> I'M NEW TO THIS TOO, I'M LEARNING ALL THAT AS WELL.
BUT ANYWAY, DANNY, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS IF WE JUST REALLOCATED THAT OVER? TO THE LEFT OVER?
>> YEAH. SO TYPICALLY WITH CAPITAL LIKE THAT WHEN WE FINISHED UP THE PROJECT, WE CAN BRING BACK THE LEFTOVER REMAIN SUM IN A CONVERSATION LIKE THIS.
THEN YOU GUYS CAN GIVE DIRECTION AND A MOTION TO ALLOCATE THAT TO ANOTHER SET OF PROJECT.
IF WE CAN DO THIS BEFORE WE STRIKE 25 BUDGET.
>> YOU WOULD JUST ROLL IT INTO FUND BALANCE AND THEN PULL IT BACK OUT OF FUND BALANCE TO DO IT?
>> WHAT'S YOUR OUR TIME FRAME? WELL, I THINK THE BUILDER CAN START MOST ANY TIME.
HE HAS TO GET THE TRUST IS MADE JUST BECAUSE OF THE PICTURE OF THE BUILDING HE'S ATTACHING IT TO.
>> I WILL SAY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUILDING. A BUILDING.
I MEAN, AGAIN, BACK TO CONVERSATION, THAT IS AN ASSET THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BOOK.
I MEAN, I WOULD PREFER THAT WE'D BE THE ONES TO PROCURE IT AND EXPENSE IT, SO I HAVE IT ON LINE BOOKS TO CAPITALIZE.
IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
IT WE WOULD HAVE TO RECEIVE THREE QUOTES.
IT GOES OVER 40,000 IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SEALED BIDS.
>> WOULD THAT BE ONLY FOR THE SEPTIC AND THE WELL OR I MEAN.
FIGURE $1,000 SO IF IT'S THE BUILDING THAT IT'S THE WELL, IT'S THE SEPTIC.
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>> EVEN THOUGH THE MONEY'S NOT COMING FROM THE COUNTY.
>> EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT BEING PAID BY THE COUNTY?
>> I KNOW IT'S A COUNTY PROPERTY AND THEY RUN IT.
>> WE DO THIS WITH GRANTS AND ANYTHING FUNDING FOR IT.
IT'S EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
>> THEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO HOLD UP ON THIS PROJECT AND WE CAN'T GO WITH MARY DELL AG.
WE HAVE TO GET THREE MORE BIDS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> THEN ONCE WE GET OUR FREE BIDS, DO WE NEED TO COME BACK TO ALL OF YOU TO APPROVE THEM?
>> THAT PROCESS WOULD GO THROUGH FINANCE.
>> IF IT'S UNDER 40,000 IT CAN BE SIGNED OFF WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE BOARD.
IF IT COMES OVER 40, WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS WHAT TYPE OF SEALED WHAT WAS THE MADE OUTPUT?
>> IT WOULD PROBABLY BE UNDER 40.
IT WOULD JUST BE ONE OR TWO OTHER CALLS TO OTHER VENDORS.
I KNOW WE'VE USED A COUPLE AND HOUSE THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY AND GET A PRICE ON, AND THEN THAT COULD BE SIGNED OFF AT EITHER ATHLETES LEVEL FOR A PROJECT.
I DON'T ENVISION ACTING MORE THAN TWO WEEKS TO THE PROCESS TO MAKE A PHONE CALL AND TRY TO GO TO MORE POINTS.
>> WELL, THIS, DANNY, I DON'T THINK I QUITE WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT EITHER BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OUR MONEY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'VE GOT TO RUN IT THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
YEAH. IF WE TAKE THE VALUE AND WE AT LEAST KNOW WHAT THE VALUE IS, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'VE GOT TO ADD THIS STEP.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO NECESSARILY DO NOW ON THE 25.
I THINK ANYTHING WE DO THERE, WE NEED TO OUT OF THAT.
BUT IF THE BUILDING, IF THEY WANT TO PULL IT OUT OF WILLIAMS FUND, IF WE HAVE NO, SAY, CONTROL NOT LISTED ON IT, THEY WANT TO COME IN.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION AND WHAT'S COME IN AND GIVE US A STRUCTURE ESSENTIALLY, I DON'T KNOW.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR LINE OF THOUGHT HERE, THAT IF IT'S AN INDEPENDENT SOURCE, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WILLIAMS FUND IS.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S A TRUST OF SOME SORT AND SOMEBODY LEFT IN A ESTATE.
>> AND THE WILLIAMS WANTS TO PAY FOR IT DIRECTLY TO KEEP EVERYTHING OFF?
>> BUT JUST REPORT US THE FINAL SET VALUE.
BUT I THINK WE NEED A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THIS IS THE VALUE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE DID THROUGH THE FUND.
>> IF THE COUNTY IS CUTTING THE CHECK FOR, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
IF THE WILLIAMS IN THE EXTENSION WANT TO TAKE THAT BURDEN, THEY'LL NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND, WHATEVER THERE IS, WE'RE CUTTING THE CHECK.
WE'LL HAVE TO DO THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I THINK PLANNING CODE SHOULD REVIEW THE PLANS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE ANY ISSUE WITH THE STRUCT OR FIRST STATE, WHOEVER OUR INSPECTION AGENCY SHOULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY IS FINE WITH THIS CONSTRUCTION METHOD. BECAUSE IT IS.
THAT'S COVERED SO AS LONG AS LONG AS THAT'S COVERED THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THIS IS, A SUITABLE MEETS ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT LIKE AN AG BUILDING, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.
AS LONG AS WE'RE REVIEWING IT AND GOING OVER THAT, THEN I SAY, LET THE FOUR H BOARD PROCEED.
AND THEN WE KNOWING THAT THE 25,000 WE'LL HAVE TO BID, THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO GET THREE PRICES.
>> WILL WE RUN THAT THROUGH? WE'LL HAVE TO RUN IT THROUGH YOUR OFFICE TO PUT THE BIDS OUT FOR THE SEPTIC [INAUDIBLE] SO YOU CAN DO THAT.
YOU CAN PUT AN RFP OUT FOR THAT.
>> I CAN GET TO OTHER WELL QUOTES TO OTHER.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE A COPY OF THE TRUST DOCUMENT?
>> WE'VE HAD IT. I THINK WE'VE GOT IT.
>> I'M FINE WITH THE SEPTIC AS WELL AND I AGREE WITH YOU WITH THE WILLIAMS FUND.
IT'S BEEN THERE AND YOU GUYS HAVE MONEY TOO.
>> AND THAT'S ALL THE MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, SO MORE.
>> BUT THEY'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FIFTH YEAR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OUR AUDIT RATING IS VERY GOOD, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES, SO WE JUST DON'T WANT ANY HICCUPS AT ALL.
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THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, THE AUDIT.>> THAT'S THE STUFF THEY COME IN AND LET DID YOU RUN THIS THROUGH YOUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS? WAS IT ALL REPORTED? DO YOU HAVE ASSETS, YOU KNOW, THAT AREN'T REPORTED? SO YEAH.
>> WELL, WE KNEW THAT THAT PART THAT YOU GUYS WERE GOING THAT WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO THREE BIDS.
BEFORE EACH BOARD HANDLES CLEANING AND STUFF OR IS IT COUNTY STAFF THAT WOULD DO THAT?
>> JACK PRETTY MUCH DOES ALL THAT.
>> JACK TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING. HE'S PARTICULAR. HE'S VERY GOOD.
>> I THINK JACK DOES A LOT TOO.
>> HE'S PRETTY AMAZING. HE'S PRETTY GREAT ASSET TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.
>> THE ONLY THING THAT WE ALSO WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS OUR BOARD'S TERMS. AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR ADJUSTMENTS IN THE PAST.
NOT TOO LONG AGO WE HAD TO SHRINK THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD JUST FOR GETTING PEOPLE TO COMMIT.
EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD IS COMMITTED TO THE PARK BOARD.
SO WE WERE ASKING IF THERE WAS ANY WAY WE COULD LENGTHEN THE TERMS TO KEEP THE MEMBERS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HAVE TO GET NEW MEMBERS.
>> IT WAS SUCH A STRUGGLE TO GET PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER OR DO BE ON ANYTHING ANYMORE.
>> HOW MANY MEMBERS IS THE BOARD NOW?
>> WE'VE TRIED TO, WHEN BIDDY WAS ON THE TERMS REALLY GOT AWAY FROM EVERYONE.
BUT YES, WE'VE TRIED TO STAGGER THEM.
BUT THERE ARE ONLY THREE YEAR TERMS, CONSECUTIVE THREE YEAR TERMS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE GO OFF VERY SOON IN THE NEXT YEAR AND TWO YEARS, WE WOULD LOSE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
>> I THINK THE SIMPLEST THING TO DO FOR ME WOULD BE TO HAVE YOUR BOARD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF WE'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO APPROVE.
THE THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE YOUR BOARD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CONSIDER.
>> WHAT IS THE NOW IS IT IN TWO-FOUR YEAR TERMS?
>> IT'S TWO, THREE-YEAR TERMS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ALMOST ADMINISTRATIVE ON YOUR PART TO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO YOU'D WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO A CODE JAM.
>> I CAN'T REMEMBER, JAMIE, DO YOU KNOW IF THE TERMS ARE IN A RESOLUTION?
>> IT'S IN THE RESOLUTION FROM 2017.
>> IT'D BE A SIMPLE AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION.
>> RESOLUTION SO IT'S NOT LEGISLATIVE.
>> I MEAN, IF IT JUST REQUIRES OUR APPROVAL, IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR US BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT GOING ON THAT.
SO IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND UNLESS I HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S I'M HAVING A PROBLEM.
>> YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE CURRENT NUMBER MEMBERS, YOU JUST WANT TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> I MEAN, HONESTLY, THE WHOLE BOARD IS VERY HAPPY WITH DOING TEN YEAR TERMS. EVERYONE ON THE BOARD IS VERY WILLING TO DO THAT.
WHICH WE'VE NOT HAD THAT BEFORE. NO.
>> IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION? I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION, WE CAN WORK ON IT.
>> YES. THEN THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> A MAXIMUM A MAXIMUM OF TEN YEARS.
IS THERE A MAXIMUM NUMBER NOW? IS THAT WHERE THE PROBLEM IS?
>> NO. IT'S JUST THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO OFF AFTER YOUR SECOND TERM.
>> WE'LL JUST LIFT THAT. I WOULD LEAVE THE TERMS THE SAME THREE YEARS AND WE'LL JUST LIFT THE REQUIREMENT TO DROP OFF.
>> OR WOULD JUST LEAVE IT YOUR FOUR YEAR TERMS AND JUST THREE YEARS HAVE TO STOP, YOUR SECOND TERM SO YOU WANT TO STOP.
>> WE'D HAVE TO REAPPOINT. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO REAPPOINT EVERY THREE YEARS.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO ANY LONGER THAN THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED A TERM LIMIT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF YEARS.
>> I WOULDN'T LEAVE IT TO TEN YEARS.
>> TEN YEARS IS A LONG WHILE I MEAN [LAUGHTER]
>> MIGHT BE CRAZY AS A BED BUG IN TEN YEARS, YOU MIGHT NOT WANT ME ANYWHERE NEAR THIS SEAT, RIGHT? [LAUGHTER] THE RATE I'M GOING. [LAUGHTER]
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>> I'M THERE, I THINK. [LAUGHTER] WHAT DO WE DO? CAN WE DO THAT OR DO WE NEED THEM TO COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO NOW?
>> I CAN DRAFT IT AND JUST SUBMIT IT.
>> JUST DO IT THROUGH A RESOLUTION.
>> JUST LIFT THE TERM LIMIT, THAT'S ALL.
>> THAT'S ALL WE NEEDED TODAY.
>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.
>> YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK, IN A MINUTE?
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>> THE MEETING IS NOW BACK IN ORDER.
[Legislative Session: Third Reading & Potential Enactment]
>> [OVERLAPPING] THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
[Legislative Bill #2024-003, Chapter 175 – Zoning – Solar Energy Systems]
>> I MOVE. WE GO TO LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> AYES HAVE IT. NOW IN LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
WE HAVE OUR THIRD READING AND POTENTIAL ENACTMENT OF LEGISLATIVE BILL NUMBER 2024-003 TO COUNTY ATTORNEY, MR. BERYL.
>> [NOISE] THANK YOU, SIR. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN ACT TO REPEAL SUBSECTIONS A, B1 AND B3A AND B OF SECTION 175-46, SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEMS OF THE CODE OF PUBLIC LOCAL LAWS OF CAROLINE COUNTY, MARYLAND, AND REENACT THE SAME WITH AMENDMENTS CHANGING THE SITING REQUIREMENTS TO NOT ALLOW COMMERCIAL SOLAR TO BE CITED ON CERTAIN AREAS OF PARCELS WHERE TVR'S HAVE BEEN LIFTED.
ADDING ADDITIONAL SCREENING DESIGN STANDARDS TO BE REVIEWED BY A LICENSED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, CHANGING THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS TO INCLUDE SETBACKS FROM ROAD RIGHT OF WAYS AND PROVIDING FOR A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED SETBACK FROM ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER VIA A SETBACK MODIFICATION AGREEMENT.
THE HISTORY OF THIS UNLESS CRYSTAL WANTS TO TAKE OVER HERE,
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THIS HAS BEEN EARLIER FORM BEFORE YOU LAST YEAR AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED IT TWICE.IT WAS REMANDED BY YOU BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE REQUIRED SETBACKS AND OTHER MODIFICATIONS.
THEY DISCUSSED YOUR CONCERNS, THEY RECOMMENDED SOME CHANGES.
THE SETBACK SECTION, WHICH IS 175-46B3A WAS MODIFIED TO INCLUDE THE 200 FOOT SETBACK TO BE MEASURED FROM ROAD RIGHT OF WAYS, NOT JUST ADJOINING PROPERTY LINES AS THE CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.
AN ADDITIONAL SENTENCE WAS ADDED TO THE SETBACK SECTION THAT SPECIFIES THAT INTERIOR PARCEL BOUNDARY LINES FOR SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEMS, WHICH ENCOMPASS MULTIPLE PARCELS, ARE NOT REQUIRED TO MEET THE 200 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT.
ALSO, THE SETBACK MODIFICATION LANGUAGE WAS UPDATED TO GIVE ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER THE ABILITY TO GRANT A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED 200 FOOT SETBACK MODIFICATION AGREEMENT.
THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED ALL THESE SETBACKS AND MODIFICATIONS AND HAVE RECOMMENDED TO YOU PASSAGE OF THE BILL IN ITS PRESENT FORM.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO ENACT IT TODAY, IT'S ANTICIPATED EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD BE APRIL THE 26TH.
>> THANK YOU. WE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE AMENDMENT, BUT WHEN THIS WAS FIRST INTRODUCED IN THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAD A COUPLE.
>> YEAH, CONCERNED ABOUT THE SETBACK.
>> JUST TO EXPAND ON WHAT STEWART HAD SAID ABOUT THE SETBACK MODIFICATION, THE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE ONLY ALLOWED ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS OF RESIDENTIAL ZONE PARCELS TO ASK FOR THAT MODIFICATION AND WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO ALL ZONING DISTRICTS.
WHETHER IT WAS RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL, THEY COULD STILL ASK FOR THAT SETBACK REDUCTION.
THEY CAN ASK ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, CAN WE REDUCE THAT TO 50 FEET? IS THERE A MINIMUM, COULD THEY THEORETICALLY REDUCE IT TO ZERO?
>> NO, IT WOULD HAVE TO STILL MEET THE CURRENT BUILDING RESTRICTION LINE SETBACKS.
>> OKAY. IT COULD NOT BE GRANTED?
>> I'M SORRY, IF IT'S CROSSING THE PARCELS BECAUSE THEY'RE MULTIPLY OWNED YOU ERASE THAT SETBACK.
BUT WE WOULD STILL REQUIRE THE MINIMUM BUILDING RESTRICTION LINE SETBACKS.
>> FOR SCREENING OR WHATEVER SCREENING CONSIDERATION?
>> BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL.
>> WELL, RIGHT. BUT IT CANNOT BE REDUCED ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, SO IT'S GOING TO BE 200 FEET [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT LEGISLATIVE BILL 2024-003.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ENACTMENT SAY AYE.
>> AYE. UNANIMOUS THE AYES HAVE IT.
BILL WAS ENACTED, AS OF WHAT DATE?
>> I WOULD MOVE WE GO BACK TO REGULAR SEC.
>> MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> AYE. AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU, CRYSTAL.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, CORRECTIONS?
>> THERE'S A BILL UPDATE HERE.
>> OH, I'M SORRY, I SKIPPED OVER YOU. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER PORTER AND JENNIFER RIDLEY WITH A LEGISLATIVE SESSION UPDATE.
[2024 Legislative Update]
THANKFULLY WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FINISHED WITH THE CALLS.
WE ARE BASICALLY DOWN TO STILL WORKING ON THE DAF BILL.
I JUST RECEIVED INFORMATION HERE AT 8:53 FROM STEVE WISE THAT HE HAS ASKED SENATOR READY TO HOLD OFF ON THE VOTE UNTIL WE GET AN OPINION FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ON PREEMPTION.
THAT IS THAT I HAD HEARD THAT THE BILLS WERE COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE AND THAT THERE HAD BEEN LANGUAGE THAT THE LOWER SHORE COUNTIES HAD ASKED FOR.
BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, IF WE GET THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S LANGUAGE AND THEN WE SHOULD BE COVERED BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS.
BUT THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THE COUNTY CANNOT BE
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PREEMPTED BY THE STATE WHEN IT COMES TO SITING OF STORAGE FACILITIES, AND THAT'S THE MOST CRUCIAL PART OF THE BILL TO US.SO IT'S BEEN A LONG HAUL, BUT WE'LL GET THERE.
THE OTHER BILLS THAT WE ARE CONCENTRATING ON AT THIS POINT ARE THE SOLAR BILLS.
THERE THERE IS SOME MOVEMENT ON THOSE BILLS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE FULL INFORMATION ON THEM RIGHT NOW.
>> WE THINK OUR EFFORTS ARE PAYING OFF?
>> I THINK SO. SO I SHOULD HAVE A BETTER REPORT ON THAT WHEN I POSSIBLY NEXT WEEK WHEN I CALL IN.
IF NOT, IF WE I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY.
I THINK SESSION IS OVER, IS IT APRIL 8 OR SOMETHING? BUT IT'S WINDING DOWN.
LUCKILY, WE SPENT, WAS IT SEVEN HOURS WAITING TO TESTIFY? I THINK IT WAS CLOSE TO SEVEN HOURS TO TESTIFY ON THIS BILL LAST TUESDAY, WE RUSHED OUT OF HERE TO GET THERE BY 1:00, AND I THINK IT WAS AROUND SEVEN O'CLOCK BY THE TIME WE GOT TO TESTIFY.
BUT WHAT YOU GOT TO DO? BUT I THINK THAT THIS BILL IS MOVING.
I THINK IN ITS FINAL FORM, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT IT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE WHICH YEAH, CERTAINLY NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO A DEEPER DIVE ON BILLS THAT WERE PASSED AND HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE BAFFER AS FAR AS IT'S GOING TO RELATE TO THE DISPARITY.
THAT'S OUR REPORT. THANK YOU, JEN, FOR YOUR HELP ON THIS AND WE ARE NOT DOING THE BILL REVIEW CALLS ANYMORE ON THURSDAYS, SO WE'VE FOCUSED ON THESE BILLS, THE SOLAR AND DAF.
I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE, WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE OUR OPINION.
BUT THEY'RE GOING TO FALL WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO FALL SO THAT'S MY REPORT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PORTER.
>> GOOD HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? WELL NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS, ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?
>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE TRIAL BOARD I CERTAINLY THANK JUDGE WISE.
THAT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS HELP.
IS THE TRIAL BOARD A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OR IS IT JUST CALLED WHEN THERE'S A NEED FOR IT TO HEAR A SPECIFIC CASE?
>> HE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS VIRTUALLY OR DO YOU THINK, WOULD IT HAVE TO BE?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT QUESTION'S EVER COME UP.
MY IMPRESSION IS THAT THIS WOULD BE LIKE THE OLD TRIAL BOARDS UNDER THE LEOBR WHICH WOULD BE IN PERSON.
>> [NOISE] I'M SURE HE'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HE MAY
[Consent Agenda:]
ALREADY BE HERE AT SOME TO SOME OF THE TIME, BUT HE'LL BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO US SO THANK YOU.THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
>> YOU GOT ANYTHING? THE TRUCK DON'T RUN THAT WERE SURFING?
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I WAS OUT THERE LAST MONDAY THAT IT WAS ONE THAT HAD BEEN PARKED AND LEFT FOR A WHILE.
>> I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[County Administrator’s Report]
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.
>> THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO BRING UP TODAY IS THAT WE MET YESTERDAY.
I THINK IT WAS YESTERDAY. IS THAT YESTERDAY WITH COMCAST, THE CABLE FRANCHISE AGREE TO THIS?
>> WITH COMMISSIONER READING AND ATTORNEY STEWART BARROLL TO JUST DISCUSS RENEWING OUR CABLE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, WE'VE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SO I DON'T HAVE A REPORT OUT OR SUGGESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT WE HAVE STARTED THAT CONVERSATION.
>> IT SOUNDED LIKE WE CAN CHARGE UP TO A 5% TAX ON THE TELEVISION SUBSCRIPTION,
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AND THAT'S WHAT THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS US TO DO, TO TAX AND COLLECT FEES, I GUESS MUCH LIKE WE DO WITH TELEPHONE, BUT THERE'S NO NEED FOR A FRANCHISE SUBSCRIPTION THROUGH TELEPHONE, CORRECT?>> BECAUSE THE STATE COLLECTS THAT AND THEN REIMBURSES US.
>> THIS IS THE WAY WE COLLECT IT DIRECTLY.
I THINK, DANNY, I DON'T KNOW, CAN YOU PULL HOW MUCH WE'VE BEEN GETTING? THEY SAY IT'S BEEN TRENDING DOWN.
>> IT HAS. THE BUDGET NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO FOR OUR FLIGHT 25 BASED ON THE TREND IS ABOUT $170,000.
>> THEY SAID WE GOT 158 LAST YEAR.
>> WE GET TWO PIECES, SO COMCAST BEING THE LARGEST AND THEN WE'VE RECEIVED THE SECOND ONE FROM BRIEF LINE WHICH WAS FORMERLY THE LAND BROADBAND.
>> 170 OF THOSE TWO TOGETHER. I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A LOT.
>> WE JUST FOUND OUT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
>> I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE IN CAROLINE.
WHERE ARE THEY AT? HILLSBOROUGH MUST BE QUEEN IN HILLSBOROUGH.
>> THIS IS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE HAVING TOO.
SURE. STACY AND I ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A PACKET OF WHAT WE HAVE IN FINDING AS FAR AS THE PAVEMENTS, WHAT COMES FROM THE PERMITS, AND WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH THE GROUP. SEE, YOU HAVE THAT.
>> APPARENTLY, WE HAVE A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH THEM SOMEWHERE THEN TOO, RIGHT?
>> I'M LOOKING FOR ONE IN OUR FILE AND CANNOT FIND ONE.
BUT THAT'S NOT STATING THERE WASN'T ONE LEGAL.
>> WE'LL DO OUR OWN SEARCH TODAY.
>> THEN WE ALSO CHARGE A 25 CENT PER HOUSEHOLD FEE TO AND THEN A 5% I GUESS IT'S LIKE A SALES TAX MUST BE ON THE SUBSCRIPTION.
WELL, KEEP US POSTED ON THAT ONE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A FIRM TO DO A REVIEW OR WHAT.
>> CHARGING YOU MORE TO WATCH ORIOLE GAMES, THAT'S ONE.
>> WELL, I MEAN, WE DID WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY RESEARCH ON IT YET BECAUSE WE JUST FOUND OUT YESTERDAY.
BUT WE THINK DORCHESTER, WHAT THEY SAID, THEY DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.
WE HAVEN'T VERIFIED IT, BUT ANYWAY.
ANYTHING ELSE, DANNY DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
>> THIS FRIDAY IS ANOTHER MITCHELL LANDFILL MEETING OR I BELIEVE WE'RE FINALIZING THE PROPOSED POST FEE ANALYSIS BY THE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE CONSULTANT AT QUEDENS COUNTY HIRED.
SO HOPEFULLY, POST FRIDAY WILL BE SCHEDULING OR COMING UP WITH SOME DATES TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH EACH BOARD FOR EACH COUNTY.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THAT INFORMATION.
>> I THINK FOR ME YOU CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S A NONSTARTER IF IT'S ANYTHING LESS THAN 4.6 BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GUYS ARE.
>> I HAVE TO SEE WHERE HE GOES [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE CAN LOOK AT IT. BUT I'M KIND OF WITH YOU. YEAH.
>> WELL, 103 YOU CAN SAY IS A NONSTARTER UNLESS IT'S 4.6 OR MORE.
>> THAT'S FRIDAY, SO I HAD THAT ON MY LIST AND THAT'S WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT'S DOING IT.
>> THIS IS [INAUDIBLE] AND WE'RE FOLLOWING A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
>> SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU, KATHLEEN.
YOU'RE GOOD. COUNTY COMMISSIONER URBAN DISCUSSION PERIOD.
>> I DON'T HAVE MUCH BUT I CAN GIVE A SHOT.
[County Commissioners Open Discussion Period]
JUST AN AVAMPLE TUESDAY FOR LARRY AND TRAVIS FOR THE SENATE TESTIFYING.>> YEAH, IT WAS A STRESSFUL WAITING BETWEEN LARRY AND TRAVIS.
JUST ONE MINUTE, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO NEXT MINUTE, WERE STAYING NEXT MET, WE'RE GOING.
>> THAT WAS RIGHT AT THE VERY END.
>> I'M WATCHING VIRTUALLY [OVERLAPPING] THEN COME BACK?
>> DID YOU SAY OUR FACIAL EXPERIENCE [OVERLAPPING]?
>> I HAD WE HAD SOME EACH ONE OF US HAD CONVERSATION WITH CERTAIN DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
YOU GOT TO A LITTLE BIT, LARRY ALREADY KNOWS THE ASPECT OF WHAT GOES ON BUT I DID.
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IT WAS LEARNING EXPERIENCE FROM ME BECAUSE I GOT TO TALK TO YOU A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, TO SEE WHAT THEY DO AND THEIR SIDE OF IT AND HOW THEY WORK OVER THERE SO IT WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE AS ALWAYS.I WENT TO THE MITCHELL REGIONAL COUNCIL MEETING ON THURSDAY.
OF COURSE LARRY WAS THERE AND THAT WAS JUST A TYPICAL UPDATE ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY FUND EVERY YEAR.
IT WASN'T NOTHING THAT'S REALLY CHANGED ON THAT END OF IT.
JUST LOOK FOR THIS FRIDAY WE HAVE THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY 250TH ANNIVERSARY FOR THE COUNTY, AND I JUST HOPE LARRY HAS A GOOD VACATION NEXT WEEK.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SPORT.
>> YESTERDAY I SENT A EMAIL TO DANNY AND FINANCE STAFF ABOUT KIND OF A DIRECTIVE POLICY TO FIRE COMPANIES FOR THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO GET TO DISPERSE THE, IS IT 504 OR 508.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THEY INCLUDE COUNTING MONEY.
THERE IS BASIC DOCUMENTATION THAT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL FIRE COMPANY.
I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE DOING IT, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE WHO ARE WHO ARE FALLING BEHIND ON THE SCHEDULE AND IT'S CRUCIAL FOR US TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING REITERATING THE DATES OF WHEN THIS INFORMATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR HIM AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHASE PEOPLE AROUND TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
I THINK IF WE PUT IT IN WRITING, GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE THE DATE SO THAT THEY CAN POST IT AND KEEP TRACK OF IT.
THAT'S SHOULD HELP THEM AS WELL.
I KNOW THE PEOPLE DOING THIS ARE VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WITH THE STATE WHERE THEY WOULD COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOCATE THAT MONEY.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT OURSELVES OR THE COMPANIES IN THAT POSITION.
I WENT BACK THROUGH E MAILS YESTERDAY TRYING TO CATCH UP A LITTLE BIT, AND DANNY HAD SENT AN EMAIL BACK, I DON'T KNOW, A FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT ROAD QUESTION, ABOUT ROAD OVERLAY SCHEDULE.
ARE YOU ARE WE CLEAR ABOUT THAT AT THIS POINT ABOUT WHICH ROADS WERE WE'RE GOING TO OVERLAY AND WHICH ROADS WE'RE GOING TO TOWNSHIP.
>> THIS PER MINUTE BECAUSE IT COMES AND DIRT ROADS, YEAH.
>> LEADS INTO THE CONVERSATION WITH DIRT ROADS.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON TREE TRIMMING AS WELL, I SAT DOWN WITH BRIAN NORTH AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION POST WHEN WE MET THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE DIRT ROADS, ABOUT TRYING TO GET A SCHEDULE TOGETHER FOR THIS UPCOMING SPRING SO WE CAN SPEND THE BUDGETED MONEY.
BRIAN HAD PROVIDED THE LIST THAT I HAD SENT AN EMAIL.
THAT WAS A LIST OF ROADS THAT HE WAS TOLD THAT YOU THREE HAD WORKED WITH RYAN ON TO COME UP WITH FOR THIS YEAR'S SCHEDULE.
WE WERE SEEKING ANY COMMENT IN SIGHT, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO CHANGE, MODIFY TO THAT.
IF NOT, WE WILL GO AHEAD WITH THAT SCHEDULE AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT.
AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. TREE TRIMMING.
I KNOW COMMISSIONER PARTS HAD SENT A COUPLE ROADS THAT WERE IN.
>> STAMPEDE OR THE OTHER DAY.IT LOOKED LIKE THEY STARTED IT BUT I DON'T A WILLISTON, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE THEY FINISHED UP.
IF THEY SAID THEY'RE DONE, I DON'T SEE WHERE THEY WERE DONE.
>> I KNOW THEY WERE WORKING ON I THINK THE LAST TWO ROADS THAT WERE ON THE LIST, WHICH MAY BE THOSE TWO I CAN HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH.
>> BUT WE STILL HAVE ABOUT, I'D SAY 165,000 LEFT TREE TRIMMING ONCE WE GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE LAST ONES.
AGAIN, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ROADS THAT COME TO MIND, I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS PROBABLY HAS SOME THEMSELVES THAT THEY WOULD COULD BRING UP, BUT IF YOU THREE HAVE ANY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO E MAIL ME ROADS AS WELL IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP.
THIS IS THE TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO PLAN THAT FOR THE SPRING AND WHEN THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> 11 SUBSTATION HAS CREATED A LOT OF POTHOLES ON SUBSTATION, THERE ONE SEEMS TO TURN ON SUBSTATION.
I DON'T EVEN USE SUBSTATION, I USE THE DIRT ROOTS BECAUSE I'M PROUD OF MY DIRT ROOTS, BUT SUBSTATIONS SO YOU CAN TURN ON IT'S A MAJOR POTHOLE WHERE ALL THE TRACK TRAILERS HUGGING.
THERE ARE SEVERAL POTHOLES AS YOU GO DOWN THE ROAD.
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I MEAN, THEY'RE ABOUT TO KNOCK YOUR FRONT END OUT OF LINE.>> ARE THEY ON THE SHOULDER [OVERLAPPING]?
>> WELL, THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE SHOULDER BUT THE OTHER TWO ARE IN THE MIDDLE.
I LOOKED AT THAT TILE JUST A DAY ON WHERE YOUR BROTHER LIVES.
>> I HAD SOMEBODY [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE OTHER END OF THE KNIGHT BOX, ONCE YOU CROSS OVER BURSVILLE, YOU GET THE COUPLE OF HOUSES ARE TOGETHER, THAT SECTION THERE.
I THINK LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AND WHAT WE HAVE LEFT, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY TWO POTS.
WE HAVE HOT MIX AND THEN WE HAVE THE TAR AND CHIP POCKETS.
I KNOW PRIOR TO THE HOT MIX WE WERE LOOKING TO DO CERTAIN REALLY PROBLEM AREA.
>> I TALKED TO BRIAN LAST WEEK ABOUT KNIGHT BOX THE SECTION BETWEEN WHITE'S LANE AND RIGHT THERE AROUND WHITE'S LANE.
I THINK KNIGHT BOX IS PROBABLY THE WORST ROT IN THE COUNTY.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT I MEAN IT'S ALLIGATOR AND THERE'S HOLES IN THE CENTER OF IT.
YEAH. I THINK AT LEAST ONE SECTION OF IT NEEDS TO BE PAID FULL WIDTH AND WE'VE DONE SHOULDER PATCHING.
IS THAT NIGHT BOX, AM I TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT?
>> OUTSIDE OF GREENSBORO THERE DOES IT COME OUT RIGHT BY KNIGHT BOX CUTS SO THAT IS NIGHT BOX.
>> IT RUNS RIGHT PAST WHITE LANE [OVERLAPPING]
>> BRIAN AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT KNIGHT BOX.
THE ROAD AS A WHOLE IS ONE OF THE ROUGHER WANTS.
>> WE CAN'T PAVE THE WHOLE THING.
>> WE WOULD WIPE OUT PRETTY MUCH THE BOT.
>> I DON'T THINK THE WHOLE THING NEEDS IT.
I THINK THE APPROACH THAT THEY'VE TAKEN WHERE THEY PASSED THE SHOULDER ON THE FIRST PART, BUT I THINK ONCE WE GET UP CLOSER TO MITCHELL ROAD.
WHEN YOU GET CLOSE TO MITCHELL, I THINK THAT SECTION FROM MITCHELL AT LEAST PASS WHITE LANE IS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PAVED COMPLETELY PROBABLY [OVERLAPPING] SHEPHERD [OVERLAPPING].
>> IF YOU GUYS HAVE THAT LIST, FEEL FREE TO RESPOND BACK AND EMAIL TO THAT CHAIN OR A NEW ONE TO ME, AND I'LL WORK WITH BRIAN TO GET SOME OF THESE ADDED TOGETHER [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE WE'LL TAKE A LOOK.
>> I THINK THAT SECTION OF KNIGHT BOX NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE PAVING LIST, [OVERLAPPING] AND PROBABLY ELEVATE IT TO THE TOP.
>> YOU'RE SAYING GREENSBORO TO WHITE'S LANE?
THE END OF LAST PATCHING SEASON, WE DID PART OF KNIGHT BOX.
PROBABLY UP TO GARLAND ROAD, WHERE GARLAND ROAD COMES IN, I THINK IT EVEN PASSED IT.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET TO SPRING BRANCH, IN THAT AREA, OR IT MIGHT BE PAST KIBLER ROAD, IT GETS REALLY BAD.
I THINK IT'S IN BETWEEN SPRING BRANCH, TO CREEK THERE, AND KIBLER ROAD.
I THINK THE ROAD GETS BAD, AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PAVED.
>> THEY GO SO FAST DOWN THAT ROAD BECAUSE IT'S A STRAIGHT SHOT.
>> IT'S GETTING A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC HAUL AND STUFF TOO.
[OVERLAPPING] ONE OF THE DEATH PITS TOO.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THAT ONE AREA IS DETERIORATING.
>> KIBLER ON THE ONE YOUR POINTS, AND THEN IT ENDS UP BEING BAKER ON THE RIGHT THERE, SO THAT OPEN SECTION.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE SUBSTATION? IT JUST NEEDS SOME SHOULDER PATCHING.
>> IT NEEDS SOME SHOULDER PATCHING AND JUST TO CUT-OUT SOME PATCHING, THAT'S ALL.
>> THEN TURN TIP OVER IT, MAYBE?
>> I GUESS NO. JUST SHOULDER PATCHING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO. I'M GOOD WITH WHAT YOU GUYS GOT.
>> I GUESS RIVER ROAD. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT ROAD, THAT HOBBS ROAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN BAD.
>> IT'S BEEN BAD FOR TEN YEARS.
>> THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF US HERE NEED TO BE LIKE CENTRAL AVENUE BECAUSE IT'S USED SO MUCH.
BUT I GUESS WE'LL WAIT UNTIL RIVER ROAD, UNTIL WE GET THAT TILE DONE.
FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL TO 404 IS UNREAL.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE GETTING CLOSE THOUGH.
WE'RE GETTING CLOSE ON BIDDING THAT.
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE THAT THING CAN TAKE.
>> I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE ENGINEER TO PICK A DATE SO WE CAN PICK THE DATES FOR THE BIDS AND SCHEDULED WORK AND START GETTING THAT CIRCULATED.
SO THE BOE IS AWARE, ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT IMPACT THAT STRUCTURE ARE AWARE THERE.
>> BECAUSE SOME OF THEM POTHOLES I THINK, IF IT GETS ANYMORE IT WILL BE THE DIRT.
>> YES, BIG AND DEEP POTHOLES.
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[LAUGHTER] I DODGE ON MY WAY OVER THERE.>> YEAH, I KNOW. IT'S TERRIBLE.
>> IT'S IN THE QUEUE. [LAUGHTER] WELL, IF WE GET THIS LANDFILL THING NEGOTIATED, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOT OF THAT MONEY AND REPAVE A LOT OF THE ROADS IN THAT AREA JUST TO TRY TO HELP THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE.
FOR THE ADDED INCONVENIENCE, FIX THE ROAD THROUGH.
>> SOME PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION HAS TO DO WITH THEM REPAVING SOME ROADS TOO, RIGHT?
>> I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT DIRECTLY AROUND.
>> THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AS WELL.
>> THE ONE THAT COMES DIRECTLY IN, YEAH.
>> SO THE PLAN [OVERLAPPING] WOULD BE UNTIL YOU.
>> TAKE THIS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DATE OF THIS EMAIL WAS, BUT CAN YOU RESEND IT?
>> CENTRAL AVENUE HAS BEEN DONE. THAT ONE'S DONE.
>> THIS WAS THE [OVERLAPPING] LIST.
>> THE BOARD AND RYAN HAD WORKED ON PRIOR TO START OF THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NOBLE ROAD.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER RYAN WORKING ON IT.
I THINK RYAN MIGHT HAVE PUT IT TOGETHER, BUT NOBLE ROAD, SHORE HIGHWAY TO DELAWARE.
>> I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE IN A WHILE.
>> WE PASSED IT. WE'VE DONE SOME PASSING [OVERLAPPING] ON THAT.
>> IT HAD SOME WORK DONE BUT IT'S BEEN AWFUL TO HAVE THERE LIKE BEFORE.
>> I CAN HAVE BRIAN GO THROUGH, [LAUGHTER] CHECK-OFF SPOTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON THE LIST.
THAT WAY WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING OR [OVERLAPPING] CONFUSING THAT.
>> THEN I'LL RECIRCULATE THAT WITH THE BOARD, THEN YOU GUYS CAN EMAIL ME DIRECTLY BACK.
>> THEN WE WERE GOING TO DIRT AND TURN TO JONES CORNER.
>> WOOLFORD [OVERLAPPING] FOR THE FIRST STEP.
>> WE SAT DOWN WITH THE ENGINEER.
I IMAGINE HE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL PICK DATES TO ADVERTISE FOR A BIT, AND GO THROUGH THAT.
>> THERE'S THE ONE MORE ROUTE WE HADN'T.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I HAD TWO TO START, AND THEN THERE WAS A LIST OF TEN THAT I BELIEVE WAS CIRCULATED.
>> WE HAD BACK ROAD, BUT THEN WE PULLED IT OFF.
>> YEAH. I KNOW BEE TREE WAS ON THERE, BUT THAT WAS A LONG, LONG ROAD.
>> I THINK WE DO WITH [OVERLAPPING] A COUPLE SHORT ONES.
>> ALL DIDN'T GO THROUGH THAT.
>> I'M THINKING IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS FROM [NOISE] THE FIRST TWO, WE CAN DO MORE OF A BULK ADVERTISEMENT AND KNOW WHAT TYPE OF WORK WE'RE GOING TO GET FOR THIS. AWESOME.
>> KATHLEEN, HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ON THE REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER? DID DID WE GET THAT SUBMISSION IN OR NO?
>> THERE IS A COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS MEETING WITH THAT GROUP OF ADMINISTRATORS ON MONDAY.
I SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING, AN UPDATE NEXT WEEK.
>> ON THAT TOPIC, MAY I BRING SOMETHING UP?
>> AS I BELIEVE YOU KNOW, I DRAFTED ENABLING LEGISLATION TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CREATION OF AUTHORITIES BY MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.
THE UNOFFICIAL GROUP THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS INCLUDES PEOPLE FROM MACO, AS WELL AS THE STATE AND ALL THREE COUNTIES.
I THINK THEY'RE STILL WAITING FOR CAROLINE TO HAVE SENT THAT BILL OUT.
I HAD SENT IT TO THE WARDEN IN QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY WHO IS THE CHAIR, AND ALSO I BELIEVE HE SHARED IT WITH THE QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
>> BUT YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE WAITING ON QUEEN ANNE TO SEND IT OUT.
>> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO APPARENTLY.
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO AN AGREEMENT AMONG THE THREE COUNTIES TO GET THIS PROCESS STARTED.
I GUESS MY REQUEST TO YOU ALL IS THAT I GO AHEAD AND SEND OUT THE DRAFT, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY I THINK THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD GO.
I THINK THAT WAS THE MAJORITY VIEW IS THAT IN THE END YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ENABLING LEGISLATION.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WONDERING, WHERE IS IT? BECAUSE WE PROMISED THAT WE WOULD DO IT.
WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEND IT OUT.
>> I AGREE. IT SHOULD BE AN AUTHORITY.
>> YOU'RE SAYING IT CIRCULATED TO KENT COUNTY AS WELL, AND THE STATE?
>> I THINK AUTHORITY IS A WAY TO GO.
IT'S ITS OWN ENTITY, BUT IT'S FUNDED.
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IT'S MORE OF A LEGAL.>> IT ALSO KEEPS US OUT OF ALL THE LITIGATION AT THE REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER ITS GOING TO ENGENDER.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU WANT TO CIRCULATE IT. LARRY, WILL YOU GET THAT?
>> JAMIE, BOB, YOU GUYS GOT ANY UPDATES ON ANY OF THE MONEY WE'VE GOT TO GET SPENT BEFORE NOVEMBER, CHOPTANK MARINA AND DENTON INDUSTRIAL PARK?
>> THE CITY GOT THE TREES. WE STARTED PLANTING THE TREES OUT TO NORTH COUNTY PARK.
>> I GOT THAT ON THE LIST TOO. YOU'RE CHANGING THE SUBJECT.
>> I'M SORRY. [LAUGHTER] I JUST GOT TO HAND IT TO HER.
I WAS TRYING TO GIVE HER A PUSH EVERY DAY.
>> FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE ENGINEERING IS COMING ALONG FINE.
>> HE HAD ELECTRICIAN OUT THERE ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, TRYING TO DETERMINE THE BEST APPROACH FOR THE ELECTRICAL UPGRADES AND NOW IT'S JUST ME.
I'M TRYING TO GET THROUGH LEGISLATION AND PUTTING BACK TO BED BEFORE I HIT UP DNR TO SEE IF WE CAN START SPENDING EARLY.
>> DID WE GET CONFIRMATION THAT WE HAVE THAT? WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE BUDGET IS PASSED, RIGHT?
>> NO, BUT IT'S IN THERE AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S A SPECIAL FUND.
>> THAT IS FROM 18, 19 DAYS AWAY FROM HAVING THE BUDGET.
>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] ONCE THAT BECOMES, WHAT I'LL CALL A LITTLE MORE MEMORIALIZED, THEN I'M GOING TO PUSH DNR TO SEE IF WE CAN'T SPEND EARLY.
>> WHEN DO YOU THINK GEORGE WILL HAVE IT READY TO BID AS HE SAID, THE ENGINEER?
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE IT WOULDN'T BE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS, STILL WAITING A LITTLE BIT ON ARMY CORPS FOR US.
THAT PERMIT HAS BEEN IN QUEUE FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE THEY'VE LUMPED ALL THOSE PROJECTS TOGETHER.
>> SO WE DON'T HAVE THE DREDGING [OVERLAPPING] PERMIT?
>> I HAVE THE DREDGING PERMIT. I DON'T HAVE THE WORK IN THE BASIN YET BUT [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S COMING.
THE ENGINEER EMAILED ME YESTERDAY, AND HE DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS TO DO THEIR BLESSING.
>> ON THE POND, CLEANING OUT THE DREDGE SPILL [OVERLAPPING] POND?
>> WE WERE WORKING IN THE BASIN.
HOW ABOUT THE CLEANING OUT THE DREDGE POOL?
>> IT'S SUPPOSE TO START IN APRIL.
>> NOW YOU TALK ABOUT NORTH COUNTY [LAUGHTER]
>> I JUST SEE THEY PLANNED AND START PLANTING TREES.
>> THE LARGE SCALE PLANNING FOR FOR THE STREET RESTORATION.
>> ONE QUESTION I HAD ABOUT NORTH COUNTY PARK, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, WAS THE ENTRANCE WAY.
I KNOW WE HAD A BLESSING JUST TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT? THE ENTRANCE WAY.
>> WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT I THINK.
>> MAYBE NOT NEXT WEEK, BUT THE WEEKEND.
>> I HAVE SOME CLARITY FROM YOU FOLKS ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO.
>> DENTON INDUSTRIAL PARK, WE'RE JUST WAITING ON LANE ENGINEERING TO GET THAT DONE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING RECENTLY.
HE WAS SAYING HE WOULD HAVE THAT READY TO BID IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
IT SHOULD BE GETTING CLOSE ON THAT BECAUSE THAT MONEY HAS GOT TO ALL BE SPENT DOWN BY NOVEMBER 5.
>> AS BEING COMBINED OF RESPECT BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
>> THE TOWN OF DENTON DID PASS, I GUESS EXCEPT THE MOU YOU HAVE THAT GEN ASSIGNED MOU UNAMENDED IS OUR UNDERSTANDING.
WE NEED SOMETHING ELSE TO WORK ON.
WE GOT NOTHING ELSE TO WORK ON.
WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP? SO WE WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE AND SIGN.
>> I WAS ON THE NEXT NEXT AGENDA.
>> THEN IT ASSUMING IT GETS APPROVED, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET IN A SURVEYING FIRM TO WORK ON THE SUBDIVISION.
NOW, WOULD THAT HAVE TO COME OUT ACCOUNTING FUNDS OR PROGRAM OPEN SPACE CAN'T DO THAT.
THE ENGINEERING, THEY CAN DO IT.
>> I TRY TO GET I TRIED TO COERCE THEM INTO DOING IT OUT OF ACQUISITION FUNDS, BUT SINCE WE'RE NOT PURCHASING IT ALL IN ONE WITH PROGRAM OPEN SPACE FUNDS THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.
IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN DONE PRIOR TO IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF FOR DEVELOPMENT.
[02:10:02]
>> WE NEED TO PUT A LEGISLATIVE REQUEST IN NEXT YEAR TWO TO FREE UP SOME OF THAT ALLOCATION OR WHAT YOU CALL THE PURCHASING POT.
I THINK IF WE'VE GOT ENOUGH PROPERTY, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE ALL OF OUR PROGRAM OPEN SPACE FUNDS FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
RIGHT NOW, 25% HAS TO GO FOR PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL PROPERTY,75%.
>> WELL, PLANNING AND PURCHASING.
I DID HAVE A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH THE RETIRED DIRECTOR OF MARYLAND RECREATION PARKS ASSOCIATION ABOUT THIS VERY TOPIC.
IRONICALLY, HE'S RETIRED FROM MRPA.
BUT HE WAS ALSO A RETIRED DIRECTOR FROM ACROSS THE BRIDGE IN A COUNTY THAT HAD ALL THE MONEY.
FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ACQUISITION FUNDS.
THEY WERE THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM.
HE STATED THE CAUTIONARY TALE WAS, WAS TWO FOLD.
NUMBER ONE BEING THAT THAT'S BASED OUT OF A REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAX OR THE CAUTIONARY TALE TO STILL HAVE A FOCUS ON ACQUISITION BECAUSE OF THAT.
THERE WAS ALSO THE CAUTIONARY TALE OF WHEN YOU OPEN THAT LEGISLATION, IT IS ALSO SUBJECT TO WHAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO WHERE SOME OF THAT MONEY MOVED ELSEWHERE IN THE BUDGET.
THERE'S BEEN, I GUESS, CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS FOR MANY YEARS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT ARGUMENT, BUT ALSO THE FEAR THAT.
>> WELL THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING WELL, WE'RE SEEING LESS BECAUSE THERE'S LESS TRANSFERS OF PROPERTY.
>> WELL, THEY HAD RATED THAT FUND MANY YEARS AGO.
THERE'S AN ENTIRE GROUP DEDICATED TO TRYING TO LOBBY TO GET THOSE FUNDS REPLACED, BUT THEY HAVE NOT MET THE NUMBER THAT WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM THOSE FUNDS YEARS AGO.
>> THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF RATING ALONG HERE.
>> I KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS, IT'S ONE SIZE FITS ALL STATE GOVERNMENT.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE MORAL AUTONOMY WE HAVE, THE BETTER WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY.
WE OWN ACRES AND ACRES AND ACRES.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE I MEAN, THAT THAT'S MY OPINION.
I THINK YOU NEED TO GET RID OF SOME WE OWN TOO MUCH.
>> THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO FORCE US TO BUY MORE WITH THIS FUNDS AND I MEAN, THAT'S MORE PROPERTY THAT COMES OFF THE TAX ROLLS.
IT'S MORE PROPERTY THAT WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN.
>> THAT DON'T GO INTO COMMERCIAL.
>> I THINK ADDITIONALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS, EVEN IN LIEU OF PURCHASING MORE, WOULD BE OPENING THAT POT OF MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.
WE GET THE MONEY TO BUILD. SHINY NEW.
WE GET THE MONEY TO PROCURE MORE LAND.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS MONEY THAT ALLOWS US TO CARE AND FEED WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BUILT.
LAST YEAR'S FISCAL BUDGET ALLOWED THE STATE PROPERTIES TO SPEND MONEY ON MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, AND THEY NEVER OPENED THAT UP TO COUNTIES OR MUNICIPALITIES IN THE SAME WAY.
>> WE'VE GOT THAT MOU, WE'LL HAVE THAT ON TO KEEP YOUR EYES PEELED FOR THAT NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN START MOVING.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR SUBDIVISION.
JUST TAKE IT OUT OF CONTINGENCY?
>> YEAH. PROBABLY WITH THIS TYPE OF COST.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'D BE MUCH, IT'S JUST A SURVEYING AND THE RECORDING OF THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN ANY DESIGN CAN COME OUT OF PROGRAM OPEN SPACE CERTAINLY.
>> MOST COUPLE OF PROPERTIES WE'VE HAD TO DO.
I THINK WE'RE ONLY A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLAR ONCE IT GETS TRANSFERRED FOR LEGAL RECORDING, ALL OF THAT.
>> YEAH. WE CAN START MOVING ON THAT AFTER WE APPROVED THE MOU, BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING PRESSURE ON US.
KYLE AND DENTON LITTLE LEAGUE AND ALL THEY WANT FIELDS SO I KNOW, BUT WE GOT TO KEEP IT MOVING.
PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR TOMORROW NIGHT IS THE ONLY THING WE REALLY HAVE ON THERE IS A CLEARING HOUSE FOR THE TOWN OF GREENSBURG GRELOCATING THAT PUMP STATION OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
>> JAMIE WE HAVE YOU BEEN TRACKING THE BILL ABOUT AUTHORIZING PROGRAM OPEN SPACE FOR SOLAR?
ONE OF MY PEERS AND MYSELF, BIGGEST HEARTBURN OVER THAT IS THE FACT THAT DNR FOR YEARS AND
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YEARS HAS REALLY STIPULATED WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE CELL TOWERS, ETC.>> ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE JUST REALLY HAD TO ADDRESS, AND THE NOTION THAT NOW PROGRAM OPEN SPACE PURCHASED PROPERTIES WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR SOLAR.
WE FELT LIKE IT WAS AN OVERREACH FROM THE SOLAR COMPANIES AND EVEN IN THE STATE TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP MORE SPACE FOR THESE FARMS TO TAKE PLACE.
PARTICULARLY WHEN THE MERE DESIGNATION OF PROGRAM OPEN SPACE IS FOR US TO FOSTER RECREATION, DEVELOPMENT, OR CONSERVATION PROPERTIES.
THEY'VE USED SOME INTERESTING LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO GREEN BUILDING /FARMS. FROM LAST I HEARD, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR DNRS INPUT FOR THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY THE PURVEYOR OF ALL OF THOSE FUNDS AND THE AGENCY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THESE DESIGNATIONS.
SO I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM OUR WEEKLY CALLS MORE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.
>> I GUESS I WOULD EXPECT THAT MANY OF MY PEERS HAVE THE SAME HEARTBURN THAT WE, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE HERE IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHY IT'S NOT THE BEST DECISION.
>> WELL, SO YOU'RE TAKING MONEY THAT WAS WHERE THE FUNDS TO ACQUIRE WAS GENERATED BY TRANSFER TAX THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DESIGNATED FOR OPEN SPACE.
IT'S ANOTHER CAVE INTO THE SOLAR PEOPLE IS WHAT IT IS.
I MEAN I WILL TELL YOU THAT 40% OF THE BILLS THAT ARE INTRODUCED ARE CAVE INS TO SOLAR COMPANIES.
I MEAN, JUST GO DOWN THE LIST.
>> BECAUSE IT BECAUSE IT HAD NOT SEEN A GREAT DEAL OF TRACTION.
WAS WHY I HAD TO REALLY BROUGHT IT FORWARD.
>> BUT WE WERE TRACKING IT THROUGH MACON.
>> IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT HERE?
[Public Comment]
NONE BEING SEEN.I WILL ENTER A MOTION TO GO IN
[Closed Session: To Consider the Acquisition of Real Property for a Public Purpose and Matters]
CLOSED SESSION TO CONSIDER THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY.>> FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR MATTERS DIRECTLY RELATED TO PUBLIC BUSINESS UNDER AUTHORITY OF 2014 MARYLAND CODE STATE GOVERNMENT 3-305, PARAGRAPH THREE.
>> MOTION AND SECOND, WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE COMMISSIONER PORTER.
>> MR. BREEDING, AYE. MR. BART?
>> AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.