Mar 19, 2024 County Commissioners Meeting

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[Call to Order: Invocation- Pastor, Dan Gedman, Global Methodist Church of Denton, Pledge of Allegiance; Agenda Review]

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ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, PASTOR GEDMAN.

DURING THE MARCH 12TH, 2024 COMMISSIONER MEETING, THE BOARD MET IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER GENERAL PROVISION 3-05 B,

[9:05 President’s Closed Session Report Out]

THE ATTENDEES WERE COMMISSIONER BARTZ, COMMISSIONER, PORTER, COMMISSIONER BREEDING, STEWART BARROLL, KATHLEEN FREEMAN, DANIEL FOX, JENNIFER REIBLY, AND JAMIE BEACHY.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO OPEN THE MEETING THIS MORNING?

[Public Comment]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS DANIEL FOX, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND STACY STEWART, GRANT COORDINATOR.

[Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Workshop]

THANK YOU. FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET WORKSHOP.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

THIS MORNING, STACY AND I ARE HERE TO REVIEW AND START WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING OUR FIRST WORKSHOP OF OUR FY 2025 BUDGET.

ALL THE MEETINGS UP TO THIS POINT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR BUDGET OUTLINES PRETTY MUCH ADVERTISING ALL THE REQUESTS THAT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES HAVE MADE.

SO WE'RE COMING TO OUR FIRST MEETING WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY START TO GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE AND START TO MAKE DECISIONS AND NARROW OUT ANY OF THE ABOVE THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO TRIM. WE WOULD LIKE TO START WITH CAPITAL FIRST, SEE HOW FAR WE GET THROUGH THAT TODAY AND IF THERE'S ANY APPETITE POSSIBLY GOING TO OPERATING, BUT I THINK CAPITAL IS GOING TO BE THE, THE BIG ONE WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH IN FRONT OF YOU.

WE HAVE PROVIDED BOTH SHEETS AND A PRINTOUT.

AND ON THE BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO DO KIND OF A LIVE UPDATE AS WE GO THROUGH.

SO FOR CAPITAL WE START EACH YEAR OFF WITH OUR ESTIMATED REVENUE.

CAPITAL IS A LITTLE UNIQUE.

IT GETS FUNDED BY TWO SEPARATE SOURCES ONE BEING TRANSFER TAX THAT IS COLLECTED HERE THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT GETS PASSED ON TO THE COUNTY.

WE'RE ESTIMATING $800,000 IN TRANSFER TAX FOR NEXT YEAR.

THE OTHER, LARGER PORTION OF THE CAPITAL FUNDING IS WHAT WE CONSIDER OUR CAPITAL ALLOCATION FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

SO CORRESPONDING ON THE GENERAL FUND WORKSHEET, YOU SHOULD SEE A CAPITAL ALLOCATION TOWARDS THE BACK END OF THE DOCUMENT.

AND THEN THAT NUMBER IS FLUID AND COMES OVER HERE.

AGAIN DEPENDING ON HOW WE FALL WITH CAPITAL VERSUS OPERATING, THAT NUMBER CAN GO UP AND DOWN BETWEEN THE TWO BUDGETS.

BUT WE TRY TO STAY CONSISTENT OF WHAT WE DID WITH PRIOR YEARS.

SO THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW IS AT 5,750,000 LEAVING SIX, SORRY, $6,550,000 FOR OUR STARTING REVENUE FOR CAPITAL BUDGET.

WITH THAT, WE'LL START AT THE TOP KIND OF GO DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT.

AND I CAN PUT COMMENTS OR ANYBODY'S THOUGHTS INTO THE SPREADSHEET AND GO FROM THERE.

AND I DO WANT TO ADD TO CAVEAT BEFORE WE START HERE, THAT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF REVENUE.

QUESTIONS AS FAR AS DISPARITY, GRANT, WILL THAT BE FUNDED IN THE BERTHA BOARD OF ED NUMBER? WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR FULL PROPERTY TAX AFTER THE WAS THAT A DEPARTMENT OF ASSESSMENT SNAFU WHERE THEY DIDN'T SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THERE'S STILL SOME REVENUE.

HIGHWAY USER.

HIGHWAY USER, WE'RE PRETTY SURE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE HIGHWAY USER I THINK.

YEAH. SO YEAH.

BUT THAT IS STILL UP IN THE AIR.

YEP. YES.

SO YOU KNOW, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

SO AND AGAIN, THIS IS OUR FIRST KIND OF GO THROUGH OF THIS, WE'LL HAVE, I THINK THREE OTHERS BEFORE WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH AN ADVERTISED PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WILL GO TO A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

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THIS IS KIND OF FIRST RENDITION, AS YOU SAID.

SO. OKAY.

SO AT THE TOP OF OUR SHEET, WE START WITH OUR ADMIN DEPARTMENTS.

FIRST REQUEST WE HAVE IS FROM OUR IT DEPARTMENT THAT HAS REQUESTED A SECURITY INCIDENT EVENT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AT $70,000.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR IS THAT WHAT'S THE IS IT ONCE WE GET THIS CHRIS IS THERE RECURRING COST LIKE THE RECURRING CALLS SHOULD PROBABLY BE, PROBABLY ABOUT HALF THAT A YEAR.

AND WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING FOR SOFTWARE NOW THAT HAS A RECURRING COST.

SO THERE WILL BE SOME.

RIGHT. YEAH. I'M CONFIDENT YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT.

SO THIS IS REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING SOFTWARE.

OKAY. YEP.

I HAVE IT IN MY BUDGET.

SO. COMMISSIONER PORTER.

YEAH, IT'S IN MINE TOO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. JOHN.

NEXT IN THE LINE WE KIND OF HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN A YELLOW IS A HR EMPLOYEE SOFTWARE.

WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING INTERVIEWS AND TESTING OF DIFFERENT SOFTWARE PROVIDERS.

WE DON'T HAVE A FIRM COST ON THIS YET.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A MONTHLY COST OR IT WOULDN'T BE A LUMP SUM COST.

AND THAT WAS A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER THIS WOULD BE MORE OF AN OPERATING COST VERSUS CAPITAL, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY BILL.

I KNOW PAYCOM OFFERS A SOLUTION, WHICH WE CURRENTLY USE FOR PAYROLL, THAT WOULD HAVE TO GET BUILT INTO THE OPERATING JUST ON THE WAY THEY BILL IT.

SO OURS IS AN ANNUAL COST ABOUT 23,023.

YEAH. SO WE WANT TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION, BUT AS WE GET UPDATED INFORMATION, WE'LL COME BACK AND UPDATE A NUMBER, WHETHER IT'S AN OPERATING OR CAPITAL.

OKAY. AND WOULD THAT BE A REPLACEMENT SOFTWARE OF A CURRENT.

NO. SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE NOW.

OKAY. NEXT ON OUR LIST, WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.

THEY HAVE TWO REQUESTS THIS YEAR.

ONE IS FOR DIGITAL CAMERA REPLACEMENT, AND THEN THE SECOND IS A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE TO REPLACE A TAHOE.

THE TAHOE HAS APPROXIMATELY 185,000 MILES.

THE DIGITAL CAMERAS.

THIS IS AN ONGOING REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE TO UPDATE THE CAMERAS AT THE JAIL.

WE'VE BEEN INVESTING ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO $40,000 EACH YEAR.

JUST AS WE CATCH UP WITH SOME, OTHERS ARE STARTING TO PHASE OUT, SO.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SPEND THAT DOWN.

YEAH, THEY DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB EACH YEAR OF GETTING THAT SPENT DOWN.

OKAY. UPDATING THEM.

WARDEN, HOW MANY MILES A YEAR ARE YOU PUTTING ON ON A VEHICLE ON THE TAHOE? TAHOE IS.

SO THOSE WERE NOT OUT THERE.

THOSE WERE VEHICLES THAT WERE DEADLINED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

YEAH. TO BE TURNED IN.

WE HAD 2007 AND 2006.

SO THAT PRETTY MUCH WERE OUT OF SERVICE.

YEAH. SO WE TOOK THE TAHOES UNTIL WE COULD GET SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY DO RUN.

YEP. AS FAR AS IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MILEAGE FOR US, IT'S ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRANSPORTS AND A VEHICLE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET RELIABLE INMATES.

WELL, THE FOR EXAMPLE, THE EXPLORERS, THE BACK SEAT AREA IS GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER AS YOU PUT THE CASES IN.

SO YOU UP FIT THE VEHICLES.

NOW YOU IT'S HARD TO GET A PERSON, YOU KNOW, OVER FIVE, SEVEN IN THE BACK SEAT COMFORTABLY.

AND EVEN WITH DRIVING WE HAVE SEVERAL GUYS WHO'S OVER, YOU KNOW, SIX, TWO, SIX THREE, SIX, SEVEN, SIX, EIGHT.

THEY CAN'T EVEN FIT IN THE EXPLORER COMFORTABLY.

RIGHT? SO WE WERE SLATED TO GET EXPLORERS, BUT INSTEAD OF EXPLORERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TIRES BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO SPACE FOR TRANSPORTING INMATES AND FOR.

THE DRIVERS. ALL RIGHT.

WAS THERE WAS THERE ANY MONEY IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR FOR ANY VEHICLES THERE? NO, NOT FOR CURRENT.

OKAY. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT VANS.

WE HAD THOSE VANS. AND THEN YOU DECIDED TO KEEP.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH. SLATED TO GET NEW VEHICLES.

YEAH. SO OUR VEHICLES WERE NEVER REALLY REPLACED.

YEAH. WE'RE JUST TEMPORARILY USED TO RECEIVE TAHOES WITH UPWARD OF 160, 70,000 MILES.

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DID THE CAMERAS DESPERATELY.

I MEAN, DID THEY DESPERATELY NEED TO BE REPLACED? CAN WE DO THE VEHICLE, NOT THE CAMERAS.

WELL, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CAMERA PROJECT WAS ALREADY APPROVED FOR THE PREVIOUS BUDGET.

BUT THE THING ABOUT CAMERAS, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN INCIDENT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE CAMERAS.

RIGHT? AND THOSE WERE OLD ANALOGS.

A LOT OF CAMERAS. THE CAMERAS WERE REPLACING OUR OLD ANALOG.

SOME DON'T WORK, PERIOD.

SO WE HAVE BLIND SPOTS IN THE FACILITY.

SO. ALL RIGHT, WHAT HAVE WE DO? THIS. CAN YOU LIVE WITH THIS? THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS A EXPLORER WITH 108,000 MILES OR 118.

IF WE GIVE YOU A NEW TAHOE AND YOU GET THAT FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, CAN YOU GET RID OF ALL THREE OF THE TAHOES YOU GOT? AND THEN YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TWO VEHICLES OVER THERE.

YOU'D HAVE A BRAND NEW TAHOE, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE THAT EXPLORER AS A BACKUP.

WELL. BECAUSE YOU GOT TWO, RIGHT? YOU NEED TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE UNRELIABLE.

THE OTHER TWO? YES. LET'S.

HOW ABOUT WE GIVE UP TWO TAHOES AND JUST KEEP ONE OF THE OLDER TAHOES FOR BACKUP? BECAUSE WE STILL NEED A TRAINING VEHICLE.

OKAY, LIKE WHEN WE GO TO ACADEMY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE STILL NEED VEHICLES TO RUN AROUND.

YEAH, AND THEY GAVE US A RAV4, BUT IT'S SMALL.

VERY SMALL. YOU GOT BIG GUYS WORKING OVER THERE? YEAH. SO.

ALL RIGHT. I'M FINE WITH THE TAHOE.

SO WE'RE GOING.

YES. YOU GOT THREE TAHOES.

NOW LET'S JUST. YES, SIR.

YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE UP TWO TAHOES, LEAVE ONE FOR A SPARE AND GET A NEW TAHOE.

SO HOW MANY? HOW MANY MILES ARE ON THE OTHER IS ON THE OTHER TAHOE? 155, ONE MAYBE 65 AND 180.

IT'S JUST PROBABLY TIME TO GET RID OF THAT TOO.

OKAY. AND THEY WERE ALL.

THEY WERE ALL BROUGHT OVER FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

YES, YES.

I'M GOOD. AND WE'VE ALREADY SENT THEM TO THE SHOP.

I MEAN, TWO OF THEM WE'VE SENT TO THE SHOP TWICE ALREADY.

YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE. I'M GOOD.

OKAY. THANKS, LARRY.

BOTH. LARRY, WHERE ARE YOU AT WITH THE TAHOE REPLACEMENT VEHICLE.

SO WE'RE GOING WITH THE CAMERA REPLACEMENT AND THE TAHOE FOR 100 TOTAL 120 GRAND.

YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WARDENS SITTING IN THE BACK.

THEY'RE DRIVING A HARD BARGAIN.

I HEAR YOU. SO NEXT ON OUR LIST, WE HAVE OUR DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.

JUST WANT TO NOTE, WE HAVE TWO REQUESTS ON HERE THAT YOU SEE ZERO GENERAL FUND COSTS.

THE FIRST BEING THE AMBULANCE.

WE HAVE A NOTE THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT $390,000 FOR AN AMBULANCE THIS YEAR.

THE BLS COMMITTEE HAS COMMITTED TO FUND THAT PURCHASE.

SO THERE IS NO GENERAL FUND DOLLARS NEEDED.

BUT WE'D LIKE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SO WE KNOW WE'RE STILL ON THAT REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE.

THE NEXT IS THE NINE ONE CENTER DISPATCH CONSOLES THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE AT THE TUNE OF ABOUT $250,000.

THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ON HERE, DES HAS PUT PRIORITY ORDER ON THEM FROM 1 TO 5.

ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS OR..

I'M GOOD FOR THE FIRST THREE THAT LARRY TRAVIS DID.

OKAY. LUCAS.

THREE STRETCHERS AND THE STAIR CHAIRS DOWN TO THE BOTTOM.

THE MOUNT CHARGERS FOR ALMONDS AND IPADS.

YES. WHAT MARK, WHAT DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IPADS THERE NOW? OR SO WE CURRENTLY DO.

AND CHRIS CAN TELL YOU, THEIR, THEY WERE BOUGHT BY THE BLS COMMITTEE.

THEY'RE COMING TO THEIR END OF LIFE.

WHEN WE GET APPROVED FORCE CURRENTLY THE WAY THEY INSTALLED THEM IS THEY'RE IN THE VEHICLE WITH SORT OF A VERY UNSECURE MOUNT.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF THEM THAT HAVE HAD ISSUES BUT PLUGGED INTO THE CIGARETTE LIGHTER.

WHAT THIS WILL DO HOW THIS MAKES AN ACTUAL CHARGING UNIT, THE UNIT STAYS CHARGED ALL THE TIME OFF THE VEHICLE SO IT'S MORE RELIABLE, IT'S NOT DYING, IT'S NOT COMING

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SO WE'LL GET A CREW FORCE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THAT EVERY DAY TO SELECT A STATUS BUTTON, WHETHER WE'RE RESPONDING, WE'RE ON SCENE.

SO HOW MANY TOTAL WAS THAT FOR 29,000.

NINE. NINE.

YEAH. NINE CHARGERS, NINE IPADS.

AND ONE. OKAY.

THE IPADS IS WHAT? SO THESE ARE NOT THE IPADS.

THESE ARE JUST MOUNTS AND CHARGERS.

IT'S BOTH LARRY. IT'S BOTH.

IT'S THE TOTAL PACKAGE.

DID YOU HEAR THAT GOAL.

WELL THE IPADS PROBABLY WHAT 18, $15-1,800? 13. 19 APIECE, SO IT'S 23,000 IS THE FIRST..

JUST FOR THE IPADS..

IT GAVE ME JUST FOR THE IPADS.

YEAH. THE CHARGING UNIT IS ACTUALLY THE CHEAPER PART.

THAT'S THE CHEAPEST PART. YEAH, IT'S ABOUT $600 A UNIT.

BUT I MEAN, THE OTHER OPTION IS IF WE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO RUN CREW FORCE.

THE OTHER OPTION IS WE GO PANASONIC, WHICH CHRIS CAN TELL YOU IS ABOUT PROBABLY 4 OR $5000.

AND THAT'S NOT MOBILE, RIGHT? YEAH, IT WOULD BE MOBILE.

YEAH. AND THEN DELL JUST CAME OUT WITH ONE, BUT IT'S I MEAN IT'S LOOKING AT THREE GRAND.

SO, SO PRETTY MUCH YOU'RE AT THE POINT WHERE IT'S YOU GOT TO MAKE A DECISION ON DO ONE OR THE OTHER.

YEAH. I MEAN, THE POINT OF IT IS, IS THAT THIS BOARD LAST YEAR APPROVED CREW FORCE, WHICH WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH TYLER CAB NOW TO ROLL THAT OUT. YEAH.

AND BUILD THAT OUT. SO IT ALMOST IS A NECESSITY FOR THE OKAY TO WORK.

I MEAN, WE COULD MAKE IT WORK ON WHAT WE HAVE, BUT IT'S YEAH, IT'S NOT THE MOST IDEAL SITUATION.

YES. SHE'S THE BEST SOLUTIONS PERSON.

I'M OKAY WITH IT.

I THINK I'M FINE.

OKAY. MR. PORTER, WHERE ARE YOU AT ON THE THE IPADS? YEAH, I GUESS HE'S GOT.

YEAH. I MEAN, THE PROBLEM IN TODAY'S WORLD, BUT JUST I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE WAY TECHNOLOGY IS, THEY GET YOU THIS YEAR, AND THEN NEXT YEAR THEY'RE GOING TO GET YOU ON SOMETHING ELSE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST SUBSCRIPTION AFTER SUBSCRIPTION BECAUSE IT'S ALL CLOUD BASED AND IT'S NEVER GOING TO END.

I MEAN. HOW MANY MILES WILL WE HAVE ON THIS AMBULANCE WHEN IT GETS REPLACED? OOH. WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BRAND NEW AMBULANCE THAT'S IN DENTON ALREADY HAS ABOUT 50,000 MILES ON IT.

OKAY. YOU'RE NOT SURE WHERE THIS ONE WILL BE? IT'LL BE.

I GUARANTEE IT'D BE NORTH OF 250,000.

OKAY. THEY'VE BEEN 250 PLUS FOR WHEN WE'RE GETTING RID OF EVERY YEAR THAT WE'RE ON THIS.

OKAY? ONE EVERY. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BUYING ONE EVERY YEAR.

YEAH. SO I THINK WHAT WE HAD KIND OF TALKED EVEN GOING BACK TO 6 OR 7 YEARS AGO WITH SCHEDULING THESE ONE A YEAR KEEPS THEM, LIKE I SAY, PHASING OUT ABOUT 250 PLUS EACH YEAR.

YEAH. SO OKAY.

THAT'S WHY WE TRY NOT TO STACK THEM UP TOO MUCH SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT COVID KIND OF PUT US BEHIND.

YEAH, I KNOW WE GOT TWO AND ONE YEAR OR SOMETHING.

2 OR 3 OR SO, I'M STILL BEING TOLD THAT IT'S AT LEAST A TWO YEAR ROUTE BUILD.

SO IT'S IT MAKES IT REAL DIFFICULT TO PROJECT HOW MANY MILES YOU CAN BUDGET FOR IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY BUDGETING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE WON'T SEE FOR TWO YEARS.

OKAY. AND I.

TERRIBLE. WHILE WE'RE ON THE AMBULANCE, I'LL THROW MY PITCH OUT FOR THIS, TOO.

SO THE BLS COMMITTEE IS FUNDING THE PURCHASE THIS YEAR? THIS WOULD BE OUR SECOND OR THIRD, THIRD YEAR FOR THE ESPP MONEY? SO THE COUNTIES NOW HAVE THE OPTION TO APPLY FOR THIS ESPP FUNDING, WHICH IS A SUPPLEMENT TO MEDICARE AND MEDICAID BILLING.

CAROLINE COUNTY WAS ONE OF THE FIRST AND ONLY COUNTIES THAT DID THE APPLICATION.

AND WE RECEIVED WAS THAT 400,000 OR SO THIS YEAR, STACEY, AND THEN STACEY TWIGG FROM DES DID THE FULL APPLICATION. IT'S VERY INTENSIVE.

A LOT OF THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE NOW PAYING A THIRD PARTY TO DO THIS FOR THEM.

WE WERE AWARDED AGAIN THIS YEAR TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 797 99, 580, JUST SHY OF $800,000.

SO THAT FUND, WHICH WAS MONEY THAT WE NEVER RECEIVED BEFORE.

SO TWO PEOPLE BETWEEN [INAUDIBLE] STACY AND THE OTHER STACY KIND OF DO THE FULL LIFT ON THAT.

AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO PURCHASE LIKE THIS THROUGH THAT.

SO. WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW, LIKE IF SOME OF THE OTHER EQUIPMENT COULD GO THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY NEED THE AMBULANCE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF.

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ON TO FACILITIES.

OKAY. FACILITIES.

THIS YEAR STACY WENT THROUGH AND ACTUALLY SEGMENTED THEM BY BUILDING.

AND THEN HER AND KEVIN WENT AND PUT THE PRIORITY ORDER FOR EACH BUILDING LOCATION.

SO AT THE TOP YOU HAVE DPW MAIN BUILDING, WHICH IS THE WILMA STREET SOLID WASTE COURTHOUSE AND SO ON.

I GUESS WE'LL KIND OF GO BUILDING BY BUILDING AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO GO THROUGH.

SO THE FIRST BEING THE DPW MAIN BUILDING THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS THE REPLACEMENT OF AIR COMPRESSOR AND THEN UPGRADE SHOP LIGHTING.

THEY HAVE A SPRAYER UNIT FOR ONE OF THE MOSQUITO SPRAYERS REPLACING EXTERIOR DOORS.

YEAH. I'LL LET YOU GUYS KIND OF READ THROUGH THAT.

THE AIR COMPRESSOR? YES, SIR.

WHAT IS IT MAINLY USED FOR? I'M NOT I KNOW, I KNOW TOOLS AND SHOP, BUT I MEAN, WHAT IS IT? I MEAN, IN TODAY'S WORLD, EVERYTHING IS CORDLESS WHEN WE COME TO, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY TRUCK TIRES, I WOULD HAVE TO GUESS.

CORRECT. I KNOW THEY'RE RUNNING ALL THE IMPACTS.

I KNOW CERTAIN LIFTS RUN ON THE COMPRESSOR AS WELL THAT THEY'RE USING TO LIFT VEHICLES.

HOW OLD IS THAT AIR COMPRESSOR? I DON'T DO NOT KNOW, SIR.

WE CAN. THE ONLY THING I CAN DO WITH IS THE MOSQUITO SPRAYER.

OKAY, I SAY NO ONE EVER.

TO ME. OKAY.

SO YOU'RE ON THE 25,000 FOR THE MOSQUITO SPRAYER.

I HAD THE COMPRESSOR IN I THINK.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. YEAH.

I WANT TO SAY I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY OUT THERE, AND I THINK IT WAS NOT PUMPING THE TIRES UP.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS TAKEN A WHILE OR WHAT, WHAT WAS GOING ON? WE CAN CERTAINLY. I JUST WANT I JUST WENT BY THEIR PRIORITIES.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I'LL DEFER TO YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT THE 12 FOR THE LIGHTING, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

OKAY. YEAH.

I DID NOT HAVE THE LIGHTING.

I ALSO HAVE YOU LOOKED AT AIR COMPRESSOR? I DID NOT ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT, BUT.

ALL RIGHT, SO YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN OR YOU WANT IT OUT FOR RIGHT NOW? JUST QUESTION MARK FOR ME.

OKAY. BUT YOU GOT THESE TWO GUYS, SO YOU.

YEAH. YOU DON'T NEED MINE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LIGHTING.

YEAH. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

AND THEN I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING UNTIL THE WASTE OIL TANK WITH CONTAINMENT.

NOT. MY THING IS I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH IT UNTIL WE GET AN ENGINEER PLAN AND WHAT WE'RE DOING DOWN THERE.

I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING. OKAY? YEAH. I MEAN, WE APPROVED MONEY.

THERE'S. THERE'S $200,000 SITTING THERE, AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT AT ALL TO MAKE ANY.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT. NO, NO.

NEVER MADE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT TO DO ANYTHING.

YOU KNOW. SO I'M NOT I SAY NO ON ALL THAT.

SO. OKAY. THE REPLACEMENT SPRAYER FOR MOSQUITO COMMISSIONER BREEDING AND PORTER.

ARE YOU BOTH OKAY WITH THE 25 ON THAT? YES. OKAY. YEAH.

THANK YOU. YEP. YEAH.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER.

SO THE WASTE OIL TANKS, THEY'RE AT THE HODO'S.

THEN I THOUGHT IT WAS AT THE SHOP, BUT IT'S BROKE UP NOW.

OKAY. THEY HAVE IT UNDER SOLID WASTE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO CLARIFY SPECIFICALLY WHICH LOCATION THAT WOULD BE AT, I CAN ASK.

WOULD HE CONTINUE? AND THAT'S THE SCENE THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH PUTTING A NEW SCENE IN BARRIER, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, OR I THINK IT WILL BE MORE THAN TWENTY GRAND.

TIME YOU. WELL, IT MIGHT BE A STAINLESS STEEL CONTAINMENT OR JUST A STEEL CONTAINMENT BOX.

AND THEN THE TANK SITS INSIDE OF THE NEW FOR ALL OF IT.

OKAY. WHAT WE'RE DOING ALL RIGHT.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO SENSE OF.

WELL, UNTIL WE GET ENGINEERING IN A PLAN.

I KIND OF AGREE WITH YOU SO.

WELL, AND I THINK, YEAH, I JUST I DO TOO.

I SAY TAKE THAT OUT UNTIL WE, TILL WE HAVE A PLAN.

OKAY. SO WE'RE NO ON ALL THE SOLID WASTE STUFF.

AND I THINK WE ARE HOPEFULLY GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE A SECTION OF THE MELVILLE..

RIGHT.. LOCATION AT THE HODO..

TO BE ENCLOSED.

SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, IT MIGHT BE PERFECT TIME TO DO A HOLISTIC LOOK AT ALL THE HODOS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE MONEY THAT'S ALREADY SET ASIDE AND GO FROM THERE.

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NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO CONTINUE THE BRICK QUOINING AND REPAIRS.

I KNOW THERE ARE SOME OLDER SECTION UP TOP, AS WELL AS THE CHIMNEY THAT HAS SOME MAJOR CRACKS AND DAMAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.

CLOCK TOWER REPAIRS.

SO, AS YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW, LAST YEAR WE HAD A ALLOCATION FOR $150,000 FOR THE CLOCK TOWER.

WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH FACILITIES.

THEY FEEL 300,000 IS MORE OF THE NUMBER TO ACCOMPLISH FIXING THE CLOCK TOWER.

SO THIS 150 WOULD BE ON TOP OF THE 150 THAT WAS GIVEN LAST YEAR.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY FEEL, I MEAN, HAVE THEY HAD SOMEBODY COME OUT AND LOOK AT THAT? I DO NOT KNOW.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I SAY NO. OKAY.

YEAH. I MEAN WE CAN'T BE ASKED TO KEEP PUTTING MONEY IN THESE LINE ITEMS AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM STILL BE THERE THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN NOT KNOW THE AMOUNT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I MEAN, THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER JOB DONE BY SOMEBODY ON ON GETTING ESTIMATES ON THESE THINGS.

I MEAN, FIRM ESTIMATES THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, TO BUDGET 150,000 AND BE TOLD, OH, IT'S CLOSER TO 300.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.

I MEAN.. I THINK IF I COULD I THINK PART OF OUR CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE NO DIRECTOR IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, SO.

NO, THIS IS RIGHT THERE.

BUT I MEAN, RIGHT.

SO THIS STEMS FROM LAST YEAR, KATHLEEN, BECAUSE WE PUT 150,000 IN THERE AS TAXPAYER MONEY AND WE MEANING TAXPAYER MONEY.

YOU DON'T SAY, WELL WE FEEL THAT IT MIGHT BE SO AND SO I, I MEAN I COULD GO TO SOMETHING ELSE.

I MEAN I AGREE, I'M JUST MY POINT I GUESS WAS JUST THAT THEY MAY HAVE GOT A NEW ESTIMATE OR SOMETHING.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.

RIGHT. AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO BEAT DPW UP TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW.

YEAH. I'M NOT. THAT'S OKAY.

THIS IS BUT BOTH THINGS.

BUT BOTH THINGS GO BACK TO THE SOLID WASTE AND TO THE CLOCK TOWER AND SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF THERE'S BEEN PUTTING MONEY IN FOR, FOR JUST PUTTING MONEY IN THE KITTY.

AND IT'S JUST SITTING THERE.

RIGHT. WE'VE GOT 200,000 IN THE HODOS RIGHT NOW THAT IS JUST SITTING THERE.

RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ALLOCATED TO THE COURTHOUSE THAT HASN'T BEEN SPENT FOR THE CLOCK? WE PUT 150 LAST YEAR.

OKAY. THE CLOCK IS THE ONLY THING.

WE HAD A COUPLE WITH BRICK QUOINING, DOOR REPLACEMENT.

ALL OF THAT'S BEEN DONE.

BUT THE CLOCK IS THE BIG ONE.

OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THE REPOINTING.

I MEAN, IF IT'S IF IT NEEDS IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER AND IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE IF THAT'S A FIRM NUMBER THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO COVER THE COST. WITH THE BRICK POINT, WE DID HAVE A COMPANY HERE THAT STARTED THE PROCESS OF THE BUILDING.

AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO PROVIDED THE QUOTE TO FINISH THE REST LAST YEAR.

RIGHT. CORRECT. SO WELL THAT NUMBER I'M A LOT MORE.

YEAH. AND LOOK MY I'M, I'M, I HAVE IT IN MIND I'M, I'M, I'M WILLING TO GIVE THE 90,000 FOR THE BRICK POINTING.

BUT WE'VE GOT THE MONEY.

WHY DON'T WE SAVE ON THE MOBILIZATIONS AND JUST DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE INSTEAD OF PIECEMEALING IT TOGETHER? THEY WERE ALREADY HERE LAST YEAR.

WHY DIDN'T WE DO? PRICE WENT UP.. THE WHOLE THING WHEN THEY WERE HERE.

WE HAD THE MONEY LAST YEAR TO DO IT.

THAT'S LIKE THE FRUSTRATING PART.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT NOW, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO DO STUFF THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BRICK POINTED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IF IT'S A MATTER OF WE'RE GOING TO CALL SOMEBODY BACK NEXT YEAR, LET'S BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE AND SAY, HEY, LET'S JUST DO A CHANGE ORDER WHILE YOU'RE HERE, SAVE ON THE MOBILIZATION AND JUST GET IT DONE.

YEP. THEY'RE HERE.

RIGHT. THE SCAFFOLDING.

WE GOT EVERYTHING UP RIGHT.

YOU GOT TO COME BACK AGAIN.

I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING TIME AND LABOR TO PUT THE SCAFFOLDING UP.

THAT'S FACTORED INTO THE PRICE.

IT'S ALREADY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN RIGHT.

SO MY QUESTION IS ARE WE GOING TO SEE BRICK POINTING AGAIN NEXT YEAR? I'M SAYING YES, WE ARE.

IF WE ARE, LET'S DO THIS YEAR'S AND NEXT YEAR'S TOGETHER, AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

YEAH, LIKE I SAID. BUT WE'LL MEET WITH THE TEAM THERE AND GET THAT ANSWERED.

OKAY. SO I WOULD SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH MORE NEEDS TO BE BE BRICK GOING UP? HOW MUCH MORE BRICK POINTING DO WE NEED TO DO TO DO TO COMPLETE THE JOB? YEP. RIGHT NOW, I GUESS IF WE GOT TO COME BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT PUTTING MORE MONEY IN THIS LINE ITEM, LET'S DO IT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BEFORE WE CUT THEM LOOSE.

BUT ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GETTING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, LIKE, SAY, REACH OUT TO THEM AND GET A I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID A FULL ASSESSMENT ON THE.

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BUT DID ARE YOU ARE ABLE TO 90,000 FOR THE BRICK AND 90.

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE I SAY NO OKAY WITH THE CLOCK TOWER.

BECAUSE HERE'S MY REASON.

UNTIL WE GET A ANSWER ON THIS SECURITY ASSESSMENT I SAY NO.

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING. I'M NOT.

I SAY NO AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WELL, THE CLOCK TOWER, WE GOT IT.

I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF THE SYMBOL OF CAROLINE COUNTY OUTSIDE OF THE SEAL.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THING DOESN'T FALL INTO A PILE ON US.

BUT. YEAH.

AND I THINK OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE INITIAL 150,000 THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR THERE.

WE CAN START TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAVE A PLAN AND MAYBE PULL OUT A CONTINGENCY OR SOMETHING.

AND IF WE COME IN AND IT'S GOING TO BE 250, WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION AT THAT TIME OF WHERE THAT EXTRA 100 MAY COME FROM.

YEAH. I MEAN, WE STILL I MEAN, WE START TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT.

THEN IT LEAKS AND WE GOT ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON.

SO, I MEAN, THE EXTERIORS OF THESE BUILDINGS NEED TO BE A TOP PRIORITY.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND WORK TOWARDS GETTING A I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE.

A NUMBER UNTIL WE GET A FULL ASSESSMENT.

I MEAN, OKAY, WELL LET'S WELL, LET'S JUST GO WITH THE 90,000 FOR RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. I HAD I HAD THE HVAC SYSTEM FOR IN THIS ROOM TO SEPARATE THE HALLWAY.

I THINK A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN THE TEMPERATURE CONTROL IN THIS ROOM IS BECAUSE THE UNIT OUT IN THE HALLWAY IS TIED INTO THIS SYSTEM. THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE 12,000 WAS GOING TO SEPARATE THESE SYSTEMS? YES. IS THAT IS THAT A FIRM NUMBER? I MEAN, IS THAT AN ESTIMATE TO DO THAT? NO, AN ESTIMATE THAT WAS ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST THOUSAND.

YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS FIRM.

OKAY. YEAH.

I, I WOULD AGREE WITH DOING THAT.

I'M WE SPEND A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME IN THAT ROOM AND HOW TAXPAYERS IN THERE AS WELL.

I THINK I'M WILLING TO GO WITH THE 12 TO DO THAT.

OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT I'M GOOD.

YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE 12 OKAY OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT 90,000 FOR BRICK POINTING AND THEN 12,000 FOR THE HVAC SYSTEM TO.

SO BACK TO THE CLOCK TOWER.

SO IF IT'S, WE COULD PROBABLY FIND FUNDS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE OR SOMETHING, OR.

OKAY. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

AND WE'RE RUNNING SO FAR, HEALTHY CONTINGENCY IN THIS YEAR.

SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET PRICED IN FY 23, WE MAY DIP INTO THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.

OKAY. SO I DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING FOR RESTROOMS. I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT CARPET IN ADULT DAYCARE.

HAVE YOU BEEN. THAT WAS ON LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THE TILES.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM ABOUT IT.

THEY REPLACED THE TILE FLOOR LAST YEAR, AND THIS IS TO REPLACE THE CARPET FLOOR, I BELIEVE THIS TIME.

CORRECT. DON'T TAKE IT.

ADULT DAY CARE. YEAH, THEY REPLACED A PORTION OF IT LAST YEAR.

AND THEN THIS IS TO REPLACE THE OTHER.

SO ALL THE TILE WILL GO INTO THE SAME FLOORING THAT IS LIKE IN OUR SIDE AND UPSTAIRS THE LIGHT.

AND THEN. YES.

THIS WOULD BE THE CAR. I PUT IT, I PUT IT IN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

BUT I'M FLEXIBLE ON THAT.

I'D LIKE TO GO OVER AND LOOK AT IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE AND IT DIDN'T JUMP OUT AT YOU.

NO, NO.

I KNOW THE FLOOR IN THE OFF SHORE AGENT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE LIST LAST YEAR, AND THEN WE PULLED IT BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVING OVER THERE, AND THEN THAT FELL APART, TOO.

SO. I HAVEN'T BEEN OVER TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WITH THE USE IT GETS IN THERE, IT PROBABLY WILL BE DUE SOON, IF NOT NOW.

SO WE REPLACE THE TILE IN THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T REPLACE THE CARPET IN THERE.

AND THE DOG. YEAH. SO ACTUALLY AS WE SPEAK, THEY'RE PLANNING AND WORKING THROUGH REPLACING ALL THE TILE.

SO THERE AGAIN WE'RE THERE.

SO. SO WE CAN MARK THIS AS A QUESTION AND FOLLOW UP.

ONCE YOU GUYS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? I LIKE TO GO OVER THERE. I'M SURE I'M LIKE, LARRY, I'M SURE IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

LET'S PENCIL IT IN FOR RIGHT NOW AND PUT A QUESTION MARK NEXT TO IT.

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THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I'M ASSUMING WE'VE GOT AN ESTIMATE ON IT.

YEAH, THAT DOES SOUND LIKE A LOT FOR CARPET, BUT YOU KNOW.

BUT DO YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR? I DON'T KNOW, UPPER SHORE AGENT NEEDED SOMETHING AND WE PULLED IT BACK BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO MAYBE REDO IT, BUT NOBODY SAID I'M ABOUT OFF SHORE AGENT THIS YEAR.

SO IT MAKES I'M GOING TO PUT A QUESTION MARK.

SO WE'LL GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT IT.

BUT LET'S PENCIL IT IN FOR RIGHT NOW.

DO WE HAVE A QUESTION ON SOMETHING ELSE.

YEAH. AIR COMPRESSOR. IF WE GOTTA LOOK INTO THAT ONE DAY AIR COMPRESSOR BACK AT AT THE SHOP.

YEAH. OKAY.

AND THEN SO THE COMPACTOR, DID WE FIND OUT? DOES THAT COMPACTOR WORK? I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO CALL OUT TO THEM AND FIND THAT OUT.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY WE LEAVE IT OUT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. UNTIL WE FIND OUT IF THERE'S, LIKE, MAJOR ISSUES WITH IT OR SOMETHING.

YEP. I'M FINE. I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN DCT.

HOW ABOUT YOU, FRANK? ANYTHING? NO.

MR.. PORTER.

NO, NO, NO.

IT HVAC REPLACEMENT.

I DID HAVE THAT DONE THAT.

IS THAT. YEAH.

AND I THINK THAT SYSTEM'S BEEN IN 8 TO 10 YEARS.

OKAY. AND I THINK IT'S THE LAST.

AND I DON'T QUOTE ON THIS.

IT'S THE LAST OF THE TROUBLESOME HVAC UNITS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY CURRENTLY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT, MR. PORTER. OKAY. ARE YOU GOOD? YEAH I'M OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. DID YOU SKIP THE DES SNOW STOPS.

DES SNOW STOPS.

I DID NOT HAVE THAT.

DID YOU? THIS IS AT THE FEDERALSBURG STATION.

AND DENTON. OKAY.

LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SNOW.

KNOCK ON SOMETHING TO BREAK THE WINDSHIELD ON THE AMBULANCE.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THEM THINGS LIKE, REMEMBER WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IF YOU WAIT, YOU KNOW.

I'M GOOD WITH. I'M GOOD WITH THE SNOW STOPS.

OKAY. GOOD, COMMISSIONER PORTER.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD. OKAY.

THE ONLY REASON THE REASON BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY AN EMS STATION IS.

AND IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH, WELL, THIS IS AN EMS STATION.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY DIDN'T INSTALL THEM WHEN THEY BUILT THE BUILDING, BUT THAT'S THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER STORY.

I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT. I GUESS PUT ME DOWN TO.

OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I JUST.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TWISTING MY ARM DOWN HERE.

STOP KICKING ME, MAN.

I MEAN, IF I DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KICK ME.

ALL RIGHT, HOW IT MAKES OVERLAY TURNSHIP.

HUMANE SOCIETY. AND WE'RE HUMANE SOCIETY.

NO, OH HUMANE SOCIETY.

SORRY. PAINTING THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.

I HADN'T SEEN, I DON'T.

I'LL RIDE OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK.

OKAY. YEP.

QUESTION MARK ON THAT ONE.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT ONE BLANK.

QUESTION MARK. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY GOT THE STONE OUT THERE YET? THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

THEY HAVE NOT TOLD ME THAT IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

ALL RIGHT, HERE THEY ARE.

MAKE A NOTE. ALL RIGHT.

INFRASTRUCTURE, HOT MIX OVERLAY.

SO I HAD 1.5 MILLION.

COMMISSIONER PORTER HAD 2 MILLION.

THE NUMBER THAT WAS PUT IN THE BUDGET ESSENTIALLY WAS A COPY OF LAST YEAR'S OKAY NUMBER.

WHICH WAS THE CONTINUATION OF THE THE MILLING AND PATCHING OUT OF CERTAIN ROUGH AREAS.

AND THEN THE 1.5 TAR CHIP ORIGINALLY WAS GETTING US, I BELIEVE, 60 MILES.

OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PRICE INDEX AND THINGS GOING UP, I DON'T THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET 60.

BUT WE DIDN'T SPEND ALL THE PATCHING.

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SO RIGHT NOW WHEN ARE THEY COMING BACK? WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO START. SO THE CONVERSATION I HAD HONESTLY YESTERDAY WITH THE ROAD SUPERINTENDENT AND TEAM EWING, WHO IS OUR CONTRACTOR FOR THAT. THEY SAID THEY COULD START NEXT WEEK.

OKAY. SO THEY'RE WORKING TO PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET DONE. WELL, I JUST THINK THEY THEY STRUGGLED TO GET THE 2 MILLION SPENT LAST YEAR, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO OVERWHELM.

YEAH. THE NEW DEPARTMENT COMING IN, AND WE DO HAVE THE ARPA MONEY THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SPEND DOWN FOR THE DIRT ROAD THAT'S THEY HAVE A GOOD BIT OF PROJECT.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER STUFF GOING ON.

SO IN PUBLIC WORKS.

I'M FINE WITH THAT.

TRAVIS AND FRANK, I MEAN, I'M FLEXIBLE.

WHATEVER YOU GUYS THINK IS THE BEST NUMBER.

I'M GOING ON TRAVIS ON THIS ONE.

LARRY. HE HE KNOWS I JUST.

THAT'S FINE. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S NO NEED PUTTING IT THERE IF THEY CAN'T SPEND IT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY COULDN'T SPEND IT.

TWO THEY COULDN'T SPEND THE TWO LAST YEAR.

SO. YEAH, I MEAN, DO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY WHAT THEY SPENT LAST YEAR.

WAS IT. I WOULD HAVE TO.

YEAH. BUT IT WASN'T YOU KNOW THERE WAS SOME LEFT OVER A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

DEFINITELY SOME. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. WELL LET'S GO. LET'S GO 1.5 AND 1.5 THERE.

YEAH, I'M. I'M ON THAT ONE.

ALL RIGHT. ONE FIVE.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT SECTION WE HAVE IS PUBLIC WORKS EQUIPMENT.

ON THE LEFT SIDE UNDER DEPARTMENT WE HAVE BROKEN DOWN ROADS, CENTRAL SHOP AND BUILDINGS.

RHODES HAS TWO SIX WHEEL DUMP TRUCKS, TRACTOR WITH A MOWER ROLLER, RUBBER TIRE EXCAVATOR, AND THEN A PORTABLE TRENCH BOX. AND AGAIN ON THE SIDE.

THEY HAVE PLACED THEIR PRIORITY OF THOSE ITEMS. SO THE DUMP TRUCKS HAVE SOME AGE ON THEM.

BUT WE'VE GOT EQUIPMENT THAT OLD THAT WE USE EVERY DAY TOO, AND IT GOES EVERY DAY.

SO MY OPINION IS THEY CAN MAKE OUT WITH THOSE DUMP TRUCKS.

WITH THAT LOW MILEAGE, THOSE TRUCKS SHOULD GO OVER 200.

EASY. YEAH.

IF THEY NEED TO TAKE THEM AND GET SOME WELDING WORK DONE ON THE BODIES, THEN I'D RECOMMEND WE GET SOME WELDING WORK DONE.

BUT WE CAN KEEP THOSE TWO TRUCKS IN SERVICE.

THAT WAS MY OPINION THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, WHERE THEY GET THEM, SANDBLAST IT, AND THEN THEY GET THEM PATCHED AND WELDED UP.

YEAH. THAT SO I'LL BRING THAT UP TO THEM AND WE CAN PLAN TO HAVE THAT DONE IF THE REQUEST IS NOT TO DO THOSE TWO.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I AND THAT'S WHERE I AM ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW, I THINK COMMISSIONER PORTER HAD ONE IN.

YES. YEAH.

I'M GOING TO I'LL DEFER TO TRAVIS, TO YOU AND FRANK ON THESE YOU GUYS KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS STUFF THAN ME.

SO ABOUT THE TRACTOR, I MEAN, IS THAT WHERE ARE YOU AT WITH THE TRUCK TRUCKS? ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY. NO.

YOU'RE GOOD. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YES, I'M GOOD WITH NO.

OKAY. THE TRACTOR I DID NOT HAVE IN MY BUDGET.

WE'VE GOT A NEW ONE WE JUST ORDERED.

YES, WE JUST HAD.

AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO. WE SUPPOSED TO GET TWO.

WE ONLY GOT. WELL, YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT.

YEAH, THEY THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD ANOTHER TRACTOR TO GET.

YES. SO IN THIS YEAR'S FY 24 BUDGET WE HAD A TRACTOR THAT HAD NOT BEEN PROCURED.

SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW SO WE CAN REPLACE THIS ONE WITH THE CLUTCH AND TRANSMISSION ISSUES.

THEY ORIGINALLY HAD TWO ON HERE THAT HAD ISSUES.

SO WE REMOVED ONE OFF THINKING THAT THIS ONE WOULD REPLACE ONE.

BUT THERE IS A SECOND THAT THEY'RE RELAYING HAS ISSUES.

SO HOW LONG DID YOU CALL AND SEE HOW LONG THE NEXT ONE'S GOING TO BE BEFORE WE GET IT IN? WE GOT A QUOTE ON IT.

NO, I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IF THEY PUT A TIME FRAME ON HOW LONG THAT ONE WOULD KNOW.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO ORDER TWO LAST YEAR AND THEY ONLY ORDERED ONE.

YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEY DON'T KNOW THE TIME.

SO IT'S TOOK A YEAR TO GET THAT ONE.

I JUST I THINK WE NEED TO LET THE NEW DEPARTMENT HEAD GET IN THERE AND EVALUATE WHAT'S GOING ON.

THAT'S WHY THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD ON THE LIST OF IN THIS EQUIPMENT FOR ROADS WAS THE ROLLER.

I REALLY FEEL LIKE TO HELP WITH DIRT ROAD MAINTENANCE.

IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO HAVE A MACHINE TO COMPACT THE DIRT ONCE IT'S PUT ON THE ROADS, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE WINTER TIME.

I THINK IN THE WINTER WHEN WE DO GET WINDOWS WHERE WE CAN SCRAPE THE ROADS, THEY CAN RUN UP AND DOWN THEM WITH THE ROLLER AND THEN COMPACT THEM SO THAT THE MOISTURE DOESN'T GET IN

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SO WHAT ABOUT THE EXCAVATOR UP ON THE ROLLER? OKAY. I'M A NO, ON THE EXCAVATOR AS WELL FOR RIGHT NOW.

IF WE'RE GOING TO GET AN EXCAVATOR, I.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE THE LARGEST RUBBER TRACK MACHINE.

I DON'T THINK WE WANT THIS RUBBER TIRED MACHINE.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO HAVE TRACKS, RUBBER MOUNTED TRACKS.

I DON'T THINK THE.

SPEED AT WHICH THIS THING IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND THE COUNTY.

THEY'RE NOT MEANT FOR, LIKE GRADE ALL TYPE APPLICATIONS.

THEY'RE MEANT FOR, YOU KNOW, MORE BEING ON ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO FIT FOR WHAT MY OPINION.

SO BETTER OFF JUST TO KEEP THE TO GET A TRACTOR AND JUST GET A BOOM OVER THE NOT A BOOM MOWER BUT A TREE TRIMMER.

WELL THEY MAKE ATTACHMENTS FOR FRONT END LOADERS.

YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT IT ON, YOU KNOW TO FOR MOWING BUT AND OKAY, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

LET'S HOLD OFF ON THAT. LET'S HOLD OFF AND DO A LITTLE MORE EVALUATION ON ON THAT ONE.

NOT THE NEW DIRECTOR.

YEAH, YEAH.

I SAY DOING A TRENCH BOX BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CONTRACT.

I NEED TO CONTRACT IT OUT.

SO ARE YOU. SO YOU'RE GOOD WITH A ROLLER? YES. ALL RIGHT.

YEP. I'M GOOD WITH ALL THAT.

LARRY, TAKE THE EXCAVATOR OUT.

YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.

YES. THE NEXT TWO VEHICLES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED OR ARE BOTH CENTRAL SHOP VEHICLES BOTH ARE 2007 CHEVY SILVERADOS.

JUST ONES HALF TON ONES, THREE QUARTER.

I KNOW MILEAGE ON THEM IS ABOUT 130,000 EACH.

THEY BOTH HAVE SOME MAJOR RUST ISSUES.

THEY ARE BOTH WELL USED.

YEAH. I HAD I HAD REPLACING BOTH OF THEM, BUT.

OKAY. THEY WERE PRETTY BAD OR USING THEM.

WELL, THERE ARE 2007 WITH 130,000 ON THEM.

YEAH. AND HONESTLY, KIND OF TO THE WARDEN'S POINT, THESE TWO VEHICLES AS WELL AS THE VEHICLES HE HAD IN LINE, WERE NEXT IN LIST FOR THE ENTERPRISE REPLACEMENT WHEN WE PUT THE HALL ON THAT.

SO AT THAT POINT, THESE TWO WERE THE HIGHEST TWO PRIORITY VEHICLES IDENTIFIED, I BELIEVE, AT THE TIME.

FOR THE NEXT REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE, JUST DUE TO THE WEAR AND RUST THAT THEY BOTH HAVE, THEY ARE DEFINITELY WELL USED.

THAT'S FINE.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER PORTER, YOU GOOD WITH THEM? OKAY. YES, YES.

THEN WE'VE GOT ZERO TURN MOWER AND ANOTHER TRACTOR.

THIS IS AT FACILITIES? YES. SO THIS IS THE FACILITY TRACTOR AND MOWER THAT THEY HAVE.

AND YOU USE THROUGHOUT THE TRACTOR IS A 98.

THAT'S. IS THAT THE ONE THAT WAS SITTING OUT BACK HERE WITH THE SIGNS BOLTED ONTO THE ROLL BAR? YEAH. GIVE ME A LITTLE SHADE.

YEAH. I HAVE BOTH OF THOSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU AT.

PROBABLY A NO. OKAY.

YOU KNOW, FOR RIGHT NOW.

OH NO. OKAY.

RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THE TRACKER.

YES. THE 2015 ZERO TURN.

YEP. AND THE JOHN DEERE 4198.

HOW MANY HOURS ARE ON THE 4100? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THEY DID NOT PUT THAT DOWN WHEN WE DID THIS LIST.

SO MANY HOURS IS ON THE MOWER.

I LIKE THE HOURS ON THE MOWER.

HOW MANY HOURS ON THE THIS IS STILL SITTING OUT BACK? NO, NO WE CAN GET BOTH OF THAT.

YEAH. SO IS THE MOWER A DIESEL OR IS IT GAS? PRETTY SURE IT'S A GAS.

WELL, WE BOUGHT THAT BACK IN AUGUST 15TH.

SO I DON'T RECALL US BUYING ANY.

ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE GAS. WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE CUTTING? I THOUGHT WE HAD MOST OF THAT CONTRACTED OUT.

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AND 4100 TRACKER FOR.

WE CAN SNOW.

I GUESS THEY DO SNOW I THINK THEY I SEE THEM PUSH THE SIDEWALKS OUT HERE WITH IT.

CORRECT. I THINK THEY DO CLEARING I MEAN PARKING LOTS HERE.

I MEAN THE COUNTY THEY CAN USE COUNT THE ONES AT THE DPW.

ARE THEY ALL SPOKEN FOR? I'M A NO RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. PUT ME.

I'LL GO, GO AHEAD.

I'LL BE A NO AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANKS.

PUT ME DOWN AS A NO.

OKAY. OKAY.

ON TO RECREATION AND PARKS.

YOU'RE UP. JAMIE. BACK HERE.

SHE'S. SHE'S BEEN BACK THERE LIKE.

SO, I HAD PROGRAM OPEN SPACE.

I HAD THAT FUNDING IN COMMISSIONER PORTER, WHERE WERE YOU AT ON THAT ONE? I HAD THAT IN AS WELL.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER BARTZ.

I'M GOOD. GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THE SUB LAMINATING PRINTER.

I WAS IN ON THAT.

YEAH, SO WAS I.

YOU'RE SENDING IT OUT RIGHT NOW TO GET THE BANNERS AND STUFF PRINTED? OKAY. SO A COUPLE YEARS THAT WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF.

ABSOLUTELY. PROBABLY. AND WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING PROBABLY TWO YEARS.

OKAY. SO I'M IN ON THAT ONE.

WHAT'S THE. THEY'RE GOOD FOR WHAT? GOOD WHILE OUR LIFESPAN ON THEM I WOULD IMAGINE ABOUT 7 OR 8 YEARS OKAY.

DEPENDING ON YEAH VOLUME I MEAN YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO USE THEM THAT MUCH BUT.

BUT ENOUGH, ENOUGH.

RIGHT. AND IN FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, TO MY PARTNERS IN THE ROOM SOMETHING THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS CAN USE.

RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE STINGY WITH IT.

AS MUCH AS WE USE PLAYING COATS.

BARTER. YEAH.

IT'S TIME TO SHARE OUR STUFF TOO.

OKAY, I'M GOOD WITH THAT ONE THEN.

COMMISSIONER PORTER, YOU STILL GOOD WITH THAT? YES. OKAY.

MR. BARTZ.

YEAH. THE PRINTER? YEP. YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THREE QUARTER TON TRUCK.

SO WHAT I HAD WAS GETTING A HALF TON TRUCK JUST FOR.

BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A THREE QUARTER TON A COUPLE, THREE QUARTER TONS NOW.

OKAY, SO I WOULD SAVE A LITTLE BIT.

I HAVE 55,000 FOR A HALF TON.

I PREFER NOT TO BE SHORT BED, THOUGH.

YEAH. OH 55.

GET THAT. PUT THE BOX ON THAT.

THAT WAS THE NUMBER WE HAVE FOR DPW.

THE DPW ONE.

IT'S PROBABLY IT'S NOT A SHORT BED.

I THINK IT'S A SINGLE CAB LONG BED.

YEAH. OKAY. WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT FOR PICKING UP STUFF AND RUNNING AROUND.

SO OKAY, WE CAN PROBABLY MOVE IT THE SAME FOR THE LONG BED.

YOU DON'T NEED A CREW CAB.

NO. YEAH. OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD.

I CUT IT DOWN TO 55,000 FOR A HALF TON.

THAT'S FINE. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

OKAY. SO YOU HAVE A TRACKER TO FINISH YOUR MOWER.

YOU HAVE A TRACKER NOW, RIGHT? YOU SAID FINISHING MOWER, LARGER DECK MOWER.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE WERE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO DECIDE WHAT EQUIPMENT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE.

WE HAVE A, WE HAVE AN OLD NEW HOLLAND WITH A FINISHING MOWER.

WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE ATTACHMENTS THAT GO BEHIND MOWERS AND OR A LARGE 96 INCH DECK ZERO TURNS.

SO WE'RE STILL SPECKING OUT WHAT MAY WORK.

AND THAT'S MAINLY FOR FOUR EACH TURN.

YEAH. MOWER HUSTLER MAN, I HATE TO SEE THE PRICE TAG ON THAT.

IT'S IN THERE.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S IN THAT PRICE RANGE UNDER SAY CONTRACT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOROS AS WELL, 35,000.

OH, OKAY. I'M THINKING.

NEVER MIND. I'M THINKING SOMETHING ELSE.

I'M SORRY. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH.

SO I HAD IT IN MIND, BUT.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO A, I'M GOING TO SAY A BETTER JOB BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS.

I KNOW JAMIE AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT SOME VARIOUS THINGS AND TRYING TO LEND MOWERS, TRACTORS AND REALLY SHARING. OBVIOUSLY THE STUFF ISN'T RUNNING 24 SEVEN, SO IF THERE'S A FAIL OR SOMETHING WE CAN'T CONTRACT OUT OR..

[02:00:01]

AND AS WE BRING ON 70 ACRES AT NORTH COUNTY PARK, IF WE CAN FIND THE MEANS TO DO THAT IN-HOUSE, EVEN THE MARYDEL, NORTH COUNTY WE CURRENTLY DO, SOUTH COUNTY, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SAVE MONEY OVER THE LONG HAUL.

I'VE ALWAYS ASSUMED, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HIRE AN EMPLOYEE, SOMETIMES I KNOW IT'S GOOD TO HIRE, BUT WHEN YOU HIRE AN EMPLOYEE AND YOU HAVE ALL, YOU ADD ALL THE EXTRA CAVEATS TO THAT, IT DOESN'T OFFSET CONTRACTING OUT SOMETIMES.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OH YEAH.

YOUR TIME, YOU PAY, YOU KNOW, DRIVING UP THERE AND ALL THAT.

YOU KNOW CONTRACTOR, HE'S GOING TO GO AND GET IT DONE AND BE DONE.

MEAN, I'M HAPPY EITHER DIRECTION.

BUT IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PICKING THESE UP AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO SOME OF THEM AND SAVE SOME MONEY.

YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO NEED EQUIPMENT TO DO THE WORK.

RIGHT. SHE THOUGHT I HAD IT IN MIND.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FACILITIES BUILDINGS COULD USE IF THEY NEEDED IT, YOU KNOW WITH US, IT'S PROBABLY TOO BIG.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN WHAT YOU WANT TO FINISH YOUR MOWER.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY CUT IT LIKE REGULAR GRASS TO KEEP IT MANICURED.

MANICURED MORE, MORE SO THAN CHOP LIKE.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE A STEINER THAT FACILITIES WOULD LOVE.

STEINER. YEAH, THEY HAVEN'T MADE THEM IN A LONG TIME.

THEY MAKE THEM. THEY STILL DO.

THEY STILL MAKE THEM. THEY'RE ALL THE GOLF COURSE, ALL THE GOLF COURSES, USUALLY WITH ALL THE ATTACHMENTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T TEAR THE, THE, THE GREENS UP AS BAD..

BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK, SO THEY DON'T CARE.

WELL. YEAH.

I MEAN, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL SITTING IN THE SHOP.

YEAH, YEAH.

SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

WHERE ARE YOU AT, LARRY? ON THE FINISH.

I'LL GO WHATEVER, I'LL GO WITH WHATEVER YOU GUYS THINK I'M FINE.

I'M GOOD WITH YOU. I'M GOOD.

GO AHEAD. YOU GOOD WITH IT? 35, ALL RIGHT.

YOU SUCKED ME IN, JAMIE.

I GOT YOU THE KUBOTA LAST YEAR.

FINISHING MOWER THIS YEAR.

ALL RIGHT, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO SAY NO ON THE BOBCAT.

YEAH, I'M A NO ON THE BOBCAT, TOO.

COMMISSIONER PORTER, GOOD WITH THAT.

NO. OKAY.

NO. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT, WE HAVE THE LOCAL BOE.

WE HAVE PHASE TWO OF THE NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL ROOF REPLACEMENT, AS WELL AS A PARTIAL ROOF REPLACEMENT AT PRESTON ELEMENTARY.

THE NUMBER THAT IS PROVIDED IN THE SHEET IS THE COUNTY LOCAL SHARE FOR THOSE PROJECT.

SO THE STATE DOES PICK UP THE LARGE PORTION OF THAT.

THIS IS JUST OUR MATCHING PIECE.

SO I'M GOOD WITH THOSE.

COMMISSIONER PORTER.

YEP. GOOD.

MR. BARTZ, YOU GOOD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ON THE LIST, WE HAVE CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE.

WE PUT A PLACEHOLDER IN FOR THIS YEAR FOR WHAT WE WERE INITIALLY TOLD WAS GOING TO BE OUR FY 25 SHARE OF THE QUEEN ANNE'S TECHNICAL BUILDING.

SO FAR, WE HAVE NO INDICATION THAT THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO BE FUNDED FOR THIS YEAR BY THE STATE.

SO THAT WOULD RELEASE OUR OBLIGATION FOR THIS YEAR.

SO IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DON'T ASSIGN ANYTHING AT THIS POINT AND WAIT TILL THE PROJECT GETS FUNDED ON THE STATE LEVEL TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

I TRUST YOU. I WAS ON A A CALL YESTERDAY THAT MACO HAD THAT INDICATES THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME OF THE CUT, SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WAS CUT THROUGH THE CADE FORMULA.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESTORE SOME OF THAT, BUT THERE WILL BE NO CAPITAL.

SO I WOULD NOT SUGGEST WE TIE THE MONEY UP ON THIS YEAR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

JAMIE, REAL QUICK BACK.

DO YOU HAVE A TRAILER THAT CAN HAUL THIS? YEAH. EIGHT FOOT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I JUST.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.

THANKS, LARRY. COMMISSIONER PORTER.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO WE'RE WE'RE JUST GOING TO PASS ON THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT WAS JUST THE DESIGN PORTION OF THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. SO WE HAD DESIGN AND THEN I HAD A NOTE ON HERE FOR FY 26 IF THIS WENT THROUGH, WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTION OKAY.

CONSTRUCTION WAS LIKE 3.8 MILLION.

OKAY. WE'LL PAUSE ON THAT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

[02:05:01]

I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE RESEALED, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PAVED.

I AGREE, I THINK SEALCOAT, BUT..

SEALING. WHAT'S THAT LARRY? I'M GOOD WITH RESEALING AS WELL.

OKAY, SO THEY GET IT IF THEY CAN GET VERY VISIBLE.

YEAH. I MEAN, THE THE PARKING LOT, IT'S STARTING TO HAVE SOME CRACKS AND STUFF, BUT IT DOESN'T.

IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE TO ME FOR THE AIDS THAT'S ON IT.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO GET REPAID FOR 30 GRAND ANYWAY.

SO THIS WOULD BE IT HAD A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ON IT WHILE THEY WERE DOING THE RENOVATION.

YEAH. SO I THINK I THINK SEALING WOULD BE FINE.

YEAH, I THINK SEALCOAT RESTRIPED PROBABLY, IF I HAD TO GUESS, PROBABLY 15.

YEAH. OKAY.

YEAH. WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DEBBIE SO SHE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY AND OKAY.

AND DO THAT TOO. JAMIE, I JUST HAD A FRIEND TEXT ME THAT'S LISTENING TO THE MEETING.

YEAH. THEY SAID CHECK INTO A TRACTOR CALLED VENTRAC.

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THEM? YEP. THEY DON'T.

I'VE NEVER LOOKED INTO THEM, BUT THANK YOU.

V-E-N-T-R VENTRAC.

I GUESS YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE STEINER, AND THEY HAVE ALL THE ATTACHMENTS, SO.

OKAY, SO DO WE WANT TO PENCIL ANYTHING IN THERE? WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT BLANK RIGHT NOW FOR DENTON BRANCH.

COMPLETELY UP TO YOU GUYS.

IF WE WANT TO PENCIL IN 15 UNTIL WE HEAR SOMETHING.

YEAH, PUT IT PUT IT IN 15, AND THEN WE'LL REVISIT IT.

IT MIGHT COME IN 7 OR 8 THOUSAND.

I DON'T, I'M JUST GUESSING OFF OF, I'VE HAD IT DONE ON A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE.

SO I'M JUST SPIT BALLING.

IT'S PRETTY PRETTY. YEAH WE, WE'VE DONE PARKING LOTS.

I THINK IT CAN BE PROBABLY LESS THAN 15, BUT I WOULD LEAVE 15 IN THERE AS A PLACEHOLDER.

OKAY. THE NEXT SECTION WE HAVE IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THIS YEAR WE HAD COMBINED AND SHOWED BOTH ANIMAL CONTROL AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN ONE BLOCK.

SO THE FIRST FOUR VEHICLES WE HAVE ARE REPLACEMENT TAHOES.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE ANIMAL CONTROL TO REPLACE THE OTIS TRANSIT.

SO FIVE VEHICLES IN TOTAL MILEAGE FOR EACH IS IDENTIFIED IN THE NOTES TO THE RIGHT.

AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, THE ONE TAHOE IS A K9 UNIT, WHICH HAS A LITTLE HIGHER COST FOR UPFIT FOR ITEMS THAT HAVE TO GO IN THAT VEHICLE. I'M FINE WITH IT ALL THAT.

OKAY. INCLUDING ANIMAL CONTROL? YEAH. OKAY. LARRY, YOU WERE GOOD ON EVERYTHING.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE ANIMAL CONTROL VEHICLE, YOU OKAY WITH THAT, ADDING THAT? YEAH, I'M. I'M GOOD WITH IT.

I'M GOOD WITH ALL OF THEM.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. WHAT'S THE GRAND TOTAL, DAN? SO? THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

WHAT DID WE HAVE THAT COMMISSIONER BARTZ HAD THAT THE OTHERS DID NOT.

I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M ON. THE AIR COMPRESSOR, I HAD YOU AS A PAUSE ON THAT.

I GOT YOU. ON THE HIGH END, WHICH HAD AN AIR COMPRESSOR, WE HAVE TOTAL EXPENSES SHOWING AT $4,757,500.

AGAIN, WE'RE SHOWING MONEY IN AT 6,550,000, WHICH SHOWS TO THE GOOD ABOUT 1.792.

BUT THAT CAN CHANGE.

YEAH. YES.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPITAL.

SO MY SUGGESTION IS, IS THAT WE IF WE DO THIS WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR EITHER DETENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION OR OFFICE EXPANSION SOMEWHERE OR MAYBE BLACKTOP.

YEAH. A CAPITAL A MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND OF SOME SORT.

YEAH. SO THE, THE GREAT THING WITH CAPITAL AND KIND OF HOW WE MODEL THIS.

SO ANYTHING THAT IS EARMARKED FOR ANY OF THE CATEGORIES, WE CONTINUE TO ROLL AND BUILD THAT FUNDING.

SO IF THERE ARE LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING UP ON THE HORIZON TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER BREEDING WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DETENTION CENTER, MORE THAN LIKELY

[02:10:04]

WE COULD CERTAINLY EARMARK BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS AND START TO SET MONEY ASIDE FOR THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO HAVE A LARGE ASK IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

I DIDN'T GIVE ANYTHING.

I'M I'M GOOD WITH THE 15 FOR THAT.

YEAH, I'LL GO AND I'LL DO IT.

WELL LET'S LOOK AT IT.

WE'LL GO LOOK AT IT. WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON IT.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SET IN STONE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH. OKAY.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, STACY AND I WILL REACH OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE NOTED FROM TODAY AND TRY TO GET A RESPONSE BACK TO THE BOARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I GOT THREE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO LOOK AT.

I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE AIR COMPRESSOR PAINTING THE EXTERIOR OF THE HUMANE SOCIETY BUILDING.

YEP. AND THE ADULT DAYCARE CARPET.

I WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE THREE THINGS BEFORE I LOCK IN, FOR SURE.

WHAT'S THAT NEW NUMBER, THEN? SAME AS OURS FOR.

NO. I'M JUST. YEP.

SO EXPENSES $4,757,500.

OKAY. SO WE WILL SAVE THAT COPY.

WE'LL CIRCULATE IT OUT WITH THE BOARD.

OKAY. POST THIS MEETING AND GOING INTO NEXT WEEK'S BUDGET DISCUSSION, ARE WE.

YOU GO WITH CAPITAL.

WE'RE GOOD THERE. YOU'RE GOOD THERE, LARRY, BEFORE.

YES. OKAY. YES.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, HOLD ON.

SO I'LL CALL FIVE AFTER THIS.

CAN'T GO YET. SO DEBBIE'S RETIRING THE END OF THE YEAR AT THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO TYPICALLY, WHEN WE SEE RETIREMENT OF KEY INDIVIDUALS WITH A LOT OF YEARS, WE SEE REDUCTIONS IN THE BUDGET.

YES, BECAUSE PAYROLL TYPICALLY THERE'S A REDUCTION.

CORRECT. TYPICALLY THE THE NEWER DIRECTORS AND THE COUNTY'S CIRCUMSTANCE A LOT OF TIMES ARE BROUGHT IN FOR LESS OF A SALARY THAN THE 30 YEAR EMPLOYEE.

SO YOU DO HAVE INTERNAL SAVINGS THERE.

OKAY. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT HOW THAT RESTRUCTURING IS HAPPENING.

CERTAINLY. BEFORE WE BEFORE I VOTE, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE A I THINK THEY ASK.

IT'S A PRETTY GOOD ASK CONSIDERING THE RESTRUCTURING THAT'S TAKING PLACE.

SO. WE'LL MAKE A NOTE AND TALK TO DEBBIE AND WE'LL BRING UP THE PARKING LOT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S EASY ENOUGH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS GOING INTO NEXT WEEK'S BUDGET? DISCUSSION ON OPERATING COMMISSIONER PORTER OR NO, NOT AT THIS POINT.

I HAD I PROBABLY I WILL HAVE BUT BUT NOTHING TO BRING UP RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. MR. BARTZ OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FIVE IF WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, STACY.

[02:20:30]

[02:20:34]

[2024 Legislative Session Update]

AND I JUST PUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY WERE ADOPTED IN THE HOUSE OR SENATE OR THEY'RE LOOKING LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO DIE, WHICH IS SOME OF THE INTEL WE GOT FROM THE LOBBYISTS.

SO. OKAY, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, I ON THE CALL YESTERDAY, WELL, ACTUALLY, IT WAS THE CONDUIT PODCAST FROM MICHAEL SANDERSON AND KEVIN CONNALLY, BUT IT'S USUALLY PRETTY INFORMATIVE.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE ASSESSMENT SNAFU THAT THEY HAD, THERE IS A BILL NOW THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO CORRECT THAT. SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN I'M GOING TO JUST SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL SEE ANY REDUCTION IN REVENUE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT ANYWAY.

BUT I DON'T I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE CORRECTED WITH A BILL THAT'S GOING TO BE FAST, FAST TRACKED THROUGH THE LEGISLATION.

OKAY. THERE DID NOT SEEM THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE ANY APPETITE AT THIS ASSESSMENT ON BLUEPRINT.

THE TRUE BELIEVERS ARE STILL TRUE BELIEVING AND THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK AND THEY THINK IT'S FAIR.

AND THERE JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY, ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT ABOUT MAKING ANY ADJUSTMENTS.

THE FEELING WAS THAT THE REDUCTION, THERE'S BEEN A GOOD REDUCTION BECAUSE OF AN ERROR THAT WAS MADE IN CALCULATING MEDICARE AND MEDICAID.

AND THERE WAS ANOTHER BUDGETING ERROR THAT WAS MADE THAT JUST KEEPS PUTTING THE STATE DEEPER AND DEEPER.

SO WHEN THESE THINGS START TO HIT AND THEY'RE ESTIMATING IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND 2027.

YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS THE STATE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO BLUEPRINT.

AND THAT'S WHEN THERE MAY BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN ANTICIPATE UNFORTUNATELY.

THE GAS BILL HAS PASSED OUT OF BOTH HOUSES.

WE DID GET A AN OPINION FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

I THINK THAT ALL GOT THAT THAT GOT SENT TO EVERYBODY YESTERDAY.

STEVE SENATE AND STEWART, I'M ASSUMING STEWART IS THERE.

THE FEELING WAS THAT WE WOULD WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL VERSION OF THE BILL THAT COMES OUT, BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE ARE STILL SOME LANGUAGE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND SENATE BILL, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL BILL SAYS, BEFORE WE GO AS FAR AS ANY KIND OF COMMENTS OR SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE, I THINK STEVE AND I'M ASKING FOR STEWART TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I THINK THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, BILL, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION WAS PRETTY GOOD.

AND I THINK I'M CURIOUS, STEWART ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT LANGUAGE? YES. I'M SURPRISED I TURNED IT AROUND AS QUICKLY AS THEY DID, BUT IT WAS SHORT AND SWEET.

YEAH. I THINK HOWEVER, WE CAN MEMORIALIZE THAT SOMEWHERE.

PAINT IT ON THE WALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE NEED TO HAVE THAT GOING FORWARD.

BUT AS A NON ATTORNEY, IT SOUNDED I WANTED THE ATTORNEYS TO AGREE ON THAT.

SO YESTERDAY WAS CROSSOVER DAY, WHICH I GUESS MEANS THAT ANY BILLS THAT DO NOT WERE NOT CROSSED OVER HAVE PROBABLY A SLIM CHANCE OF PASSING.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE BILL THAT WAS GOING TO AFFECT OUR ZONING ON CAPABILITY ON SOLAR IS NOT GOING TO GO, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD.

[02:25:07]

I THINK IT WAS MAYBE FRIDAY, SO, WE'VE CROSSED THAT HURDLE WITH THE BPW.

THE FINAL THING WOULD BE THEY KEEP SENDING ME THESE INVITATIONS FOR THE FINAL MACO MEETING TOMORROW. IT'S THE [INAUDIBLE] CONFERENCE STARTS AT 11.

GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO, BUT IT'S THE FINAL LEGISLATIVE MEETING.

IT IS AT THE MACO OFFICE.

AND THEN THEN THEY HAVE A SMALL LUNCHEON AFTER THAT.

SO, TRAVIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR AND FRANK'S SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE.

IF EITHER ONE OF YOU CAN GET CAN GET THERE.

YEAH. I'M GONNA TRY TO GET OVER THERE FOR THAT TOMORROW, SO.

OKAY. OKAY.

BOOKED UP. OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT ON THAT END.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR THE UPDATES.

LARRY. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ON THE CANNABIS RESTRICTION? DID I, I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEWHERE THAT THAT BILL WAS NOT GOING ANYWHERE EITHER.

AS FAR AS CONTROL THE WHERE WE HAD TO TREAT IT LIKE WE WOULD A LIQUOR STORE OR..

ABOUT THAT BILL, THAT WAS THE THAT BILL WAS THE SAME SPONSOR AS THE SOLAR SITING BILL.

SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I'LL TRY TO CHECK IT FROM HERE, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. AND THEN THE $2,500, A MEGAWATT CAP, THAT BILL THAT WAS GETTING AT LEAST REMOVED FROM THAT BILL, I THINK.

RIGHT. ISN'T THAT WHAT WE HAD HEARD? I BELIEVE THAT, YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. GOOD.

SO HOPEFULLY SOME OF OUR EFFORTS ARE PAYING OFF.

SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK SO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? GOOD. GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS, LARRY.

THANKS, LARRY. YEP.

OKAY ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, CORRECTIONS WITH ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[Consent Agenda:]

THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE MEETING YESTERDAY AT THE SAME TIME.

SO LET'S JUST STICK TO WHAT'S LISTED ON HERE.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE.

GO AHEAD. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M SORRY. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR MARCH 19TH, 2024.

OKAY. SECOND.

OKAY. MOTION AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PORTER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. SO MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY. ONE.

YEP. LET ME JUST GO BACK ONE SECOND.

I DON'T KNOW, ON THE BURIAL SITE BOARD.

I MAY RECUSE MYSELF.

MY BROTHER IS UP FOR APPOINTMENT ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW, I'LL DEFER TO STEWART ON THAT, WHETHER I NEED TO RECUSE OR NOT.

I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS.

HE DOESN'T GET PAID, SO, OKAY, HE'S DOING IT FOR FREE.

SO I WOULD SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. OKAY.

YOU'RE NOT IN THE, YOU'RE NOT IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS, ARE YOU, LARRY? NOT YET.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, I'M GOING TO ADD AN ACTION ITEM.

NOW, WE WE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TOWN OF RIDGELY YESTERDAY, INCLUDING COMMISSIONER HURLEY.

DAVID CHRIS OVER THERE.

AND, THEY WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO A TEMPORARY AGREEMENT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED TO THE TOWN OF RIDGELY BY THE CAROLINE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SO, STEWART, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGREEMENT FOUNDATION FOR IT.

WELL, THE RIDGELY THE TOWN OF RIDGELY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED, AND SOMEONE HAS TO PERFORM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES THERE. IN THE MEANTIME, WE THE FUTURE OF THAT DEPARTMENT IS NOT SETTLED.

[02:30:06]

AND THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH IS BASED UPON ONE THAT WAS USED FOR THE TOWN OF PRESTON COVERAGE IN 2019. SO THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN UTILIZED IN THE PAST, AND WHAT THE KEY PARTS OF IT ARE, THAT BASICALLY THE SHERIFF IS AGREEING UPON REQUEST OF THE TOWN OF RIDGELY, WHICH THIS IS REALLY DOCUMENTING THE REQUEST.

PLEASE COVER OUR TOWN AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS.

AND, OF COURSE, THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE DEPUTIES PUTTING IN OVERTIME WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL, BUT THIS SETS FORTH THE BILLING ARRANGEMENTS WHERE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL KEEP TRACK OF THE HOURS THE DEPUTIES PUT IN TOWN OF RIDGELY IS STARTING OFF WITH A REQUEST FOR 35 HOURS PER WEEK OF COVERAGE.

THIS MAY GO UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT FOR NOW, WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

AND THE COUNTY IS BASICALLY A SIGNATORY.

THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE SIMPLY SHOWING THEIR CONSENT AND AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL ASSIST THE SHERIFF.

YOU KNOW, WHICH YOU'RE DOING ANYWAY IN HIS NORMAL DUTIES, ASSIST THE SHERIFF IN CARRYING OUT THE EXTRA DUTIES FOR THE TOWN OF RIDGELY.

AND EITHER SIDE CAN TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT UPON 30 DAYS NOTICE.

THE STATE POLICE, BY THE WAY, ARE NOT SIGNATORY TO THIS, BUT THE STATE POLICE ARE ALSO ASSISTING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN PROVIDING LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES IN THE TOWN OF RIDGELY. OKAY.

KATHLEEN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING FROM THE MEETING YESTERDAY? I THINK STEWART COVERED IT. YEAH, I THINK SO.

SO IT DOES HAVE A SIGNATURE BLOCK HERE FOR ME.

AND AS ALWAYS, I DON'T WANT TO SIGN ANYTHING WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL.

SO I'M ASKING COMMISSIONER PORTER, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK THIS OVER, CORRECT? I HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME NOW.

YEAH, OKAY, I DO HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS, TRAVIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YEP. THE 35 HOURS, ARE THEY SET FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME, LIKE DURING THE DAY OR IS IT JUST 35 HOURS? I MEAN, IS IT DURING THE DAY OR EVENING OR HAS THAT BEEN DETERMINED? THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF 9 TO 1, I BELIEVE THAT WAS FOR THE LONGER TERM, RIGHT.

THE 35 HOURS INITIALLY, I DON'T RECALL ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SPECIFIC TIME COVERED.

THE ONLY THING I RECALL.

YEAH, THE ONLY THING I RECALL IS THAT SHERIFF BAKER SAID IT WOULD BE ONE SHIFT PER DAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO THEY WOULD.

SO I BELIEVE LIEUTENANT BAKER WAS EXPLAINING THAT IT DEPENDS ON WHEN OFFICERS GO ON AND OFF OF SHIFTS, THAT THEY WOULD GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FIVE HOUR BLOCKS POST SHIFT SO THEY WOULD BE ROTATING FIVE HOUR BLOCKS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK TO GET TO THE 35.

THE TOWN IS AND THE TOWN IS TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT TO DO MORE IF THEY DO DECIDE TO, YOU KNOW, TO GO WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, 16 TO 20 HOURS A DAY.

CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THIS IS A QUESTION THAT CAN BE ANSWERED MAYBE OFFLINE, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT NONE OF THE CASES THAT WE HAVE PENDING BEFORE THE PAB OR INVOLVE ANY RIDGLEY OFFICERS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE ANSWERED NOW OR NOT, BUT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT IT CAN BE ANSWERED.

WE DO HAVE ONE CASE.

CAN YOU COME FORWARD, MARY? THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU. SORRY.

WE DO HAVE ONE CASE PENDING INVOLVING RIDGELY OFFICERS IN FRONT OF THE PAB.

INITIALLY, FEDERALSBURG POLICE WAS GOING TO INVESTIGATE THAT CASE, AND THEY HAVE SINCE DECIDED TO WITHDRAW FROM THAT.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING AT 1:00 TODAY WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE ABOUT THE TAX DIFFERENTIAL.

[02:35:01]

YEAH. WHAT WE'VE PRELIMINARILY KIND OF DISCUSSED IS IT'LL DEPEND ON HOW MUCH COVERAGE THEY OBTAIN FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THROUGH PAYING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS TO HOW MUCH THE TAX DIFFERENTIAL CALCULATION FOR THEM WILL BE.

SO DANNY IS AND HIS TEAM ARE WORKING ON AND STACIE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

SO. OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

AND TRAVIS, THANK YOU.

I KNOW YOU PUT TIME INTO THIS.

I APPRECIATE IT WHILE I'M DOWN HERE GOOFING OFF, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A THIS WAS AN EXTRA DUTY.

BUT THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND FOR EVERYBODY'S TIME AND PULLING THIS TOGETHER IN A QUICK WAY.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY DID A VERY GOOD JOB.

YEAH, THE SHERIFF AND AND COMMISSIONER HURLEY OVER AT RIDGELY HAVE YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST THERE KIND OF AS A BYSTANDER.

WE JUST WERE THERE TAKING THE INFORMATION IN, AND THEY'VE WORKED, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE WORKED HARD TO GET THROUGH THIS ISSUE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE OFFERED OUR SUPPORT ANY WAY WE CAN.

SO OF COURSE, I DO WANT TO ADD.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. I WANT TO ADD, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, JUST FOR ANYBODY LISTENING.

SO THE AGREEMENT IS 35 HOURS ON THIS INTERIM BASIS UNTIL RIDGELY CAN SORT OF FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANY CALLS THAT COME IN TO 911..

RIGHT.. WOULD NOT BE RESPONDED TO AFTER THE 35 HOURS.

THAT'S JUST THE 35 HOURS OF ACTIVE PATROL.

BUT CALLS STILL RESPONDED TO 24 SEVEN.

YES. SO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE MARYLAND STATE POLICE ARE ROTATING THE CALLS BACK EVERY OTHER CALL.

SO RIDGELY IS CONTINUING TO BE SERVED.

THIS WOULD JUST HAVE A DEPUTY INSIDE THE INCORPORATED LIMITS OF THE TOWN YOU KNOW, TO RESPOND FASTER OR BE ON PATROL. SO, YEAH, I HAD ONE OTHER KEY PROVISION AND THAT IS THAT THE UPON REQUEST.

AND THEY HAVE MADE THAT REQUEST OF THE SHERIFF THAT HE WILL SECURE THE OFFICES OF THE TOWN'S POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM UNAUTHORIZED ENTRY. HE WILL ACCEPT PHYSICAL POSSESSION OF ALL WARRANTS, CRIMINAL SUMMONS, EVIDENCE AND PROPERTY WITHIN THE TOWN'S POLICE DEPARTMENT SO AS TO PRESERVE ONGOING AND OPEN INVESTIGATIONS AND ALLOW FOR THE PROCESSING OF SUCH WARRANTS THAT MAY EXIST.

SHERIFF AGREES TO ASSIGN STAFF TO AUDIT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PROPERTY AND SECURE ANY FIREARMS AND OR AMMUNITION AS NECESSARY.

SO THUS, THE REASON WHY WE CREATED THIS ACTION ITEM AND GOT IT ON TODAY.

SO WE CAN GET THIS FINALIZED, HOPEFULLY, AND GET THE SHERIFF ON ABOUT DOING HIS DUTIES THERE.

SO HE'S SAYING HE LOST US.

OH. CAN YOU HEAR US? HELLO? HELLO.

WE HAVE YOU BACK. OKAY.

OKAY. SO WE WANT TO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AGREEMENT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES BETWEEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMISSIONERS ORIGINALLY.

SECOND. OKAY.

MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.

[County Administrator’s Report]

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LEVEL OF DETAIL ON HIS VISIT YET, OTHER THAN HE DOES INTEND TO MEET WITH THE BOARD.

AND HIM AND HIS CABINET DO WANT TO SEE SOME SIGHTS IN CAROLINE COUNTY, SO JEN IS WORKING ON THAT.

TARA OVER AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAD ALSO SENT SOME INFORMATION.

THEY'LL BE HELPING WITH DETERMINING SOME SITES.

AND THAT'S REALLY ALL WE KNOW YET.

SO IT'S KIND OF SHORT NOTICE.

AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM IS DANNY AND I DID MEET WITH THE OTHER COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS ABOUT THE LANDFILL JUST GOING OVER THE BUDGET, WHETHER WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE LANDFILL HERE, IF IT GOES TO QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY.

WE HAVE A FULL REPORT, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN SHARED.

DID WE SHARE THAT WITH THEM AN EMAIL YET? OKAY, SO WE HAVEN'T SHARED THAT YET.

WE HAVE A FULL REPORT ON THE TWO AND FOUR, THREE AND FIVE AND FOUR AND SIX NUMBERS.

AND SPEAKING WITH THE OTHER COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS I GUESS THERE'LL BE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON THOSE NUMBERS.

[02:40:07]

SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ABOUT THAT? NO, I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR POST MEETING OF ALL THAT'S DISCUSSION.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH OUR BOARD.

BUT JUST WANTED TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON WHERE WE ARE.

FOR DISCUSSION. THAT WAS APRIL.

THAT WAS APRIL 15TH.

DO WE HAVE A TIME? APRIL 5TH.

SO I'M HAVING A CALL WITH THE OFFICE TODAY, SO I WILL GET ALL OF THOSE DETAILS, PUT ON YOUR CALENDAR AND WORK THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

IT DOES SOUND LIKE THEY PLAN TO BE HERE ALL DAY.

YES. YOU'RE SAYING FOR THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, LARRY? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY.

GOVERNOR. OKAY. SO TO KATHY, KATHLEEN'S POINT ABOUT THE OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LANDFILL, I KEEP GOING BACK TO AND TO THIS POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO TALBOT COUNTY AND ANY OTHER COUNTY THAT HAS COLD FEET.

THE CLOSURE POST CLOSURE NUMBER FOR THE LANDFILL HISTORICALLY WAS AROUND 1.5 MILLION OR LESS.

IN 2022, IT WAS 1.5 MILLION.

IN 2021, IT WAS 1 MILLION.

IN 2020, IT WAS 1.3 MILLION.

IN 2019, IT WAS 1.2 MILLION.

MIRACULOUSLY, IN THE YEAR WHERE WE START DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONTINUING TO KEEP THE LANDFILL, IT JUMPS TO 3.6 MILLION IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY NEED TO PUT AWAY TO SAVE ENOUGH FOR THE CLOSURE POST CLOSURE COSTS.

NOW, I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN REGULATION CHANGES THAT SKEWED THAT NUMBER, DOUBLED IT ESSENTIALLY FROM HISTORICAL AVERAGES.

BUT THE EXTENSION OF THIS LANDFILL IS NOT GOING TO BE USED TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS.

THOSE COSTS ARE THE BURDEN OF ALL FOUR COUNTIES, NOT JUST DISPROPORTIONATELY CAROLINE'S, BECAUSE WE'RE CONSIDERING KEEPING IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF ANY OF THE COUNTIES WITH COLD FEET WANT TO COME BACK AND EXPLAIN TO ME WHY I'M WRONG, I'M WORTH, I'M WILLING TO LISTEN.

BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT IS BEING CALCULATED IN.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, DANNY, IF WE CAN GO BACK AND MESS WITH THE FORMULA THAT WAS GIVEN TO US AND, AND RUN IT WITH HISTORICAL AVERAGES.

WAS THAT DONE AT ALL THAT.

YES. SO I GUESS WE'LL START WITH THAT.

POST THIS MEETING.

I'LL SEND THE, THE MODEL THAT.

YEAH. WE'RE DISCUSSING OR GOING THROUGH.

IN THAT MODEL THERE IS THE UPDATED POST CLOSURE FUND TOTAL LIABILITY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH.

AND WHAT THAT ENDS UP DOING IS AVERAGING OUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE EACH YEAR TO THAT.

SO IT DOES TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION KIND OF THE PAST NUMBER.

ALSO THIS YEAR'S OR 2023'S LARGER CONTRIBUTION.

IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.

SO I THINK LET ME SHARE IT WITH THE GROUP WITH THE THREE.

AND THEN WE CAN START GOING THROUGH AND WE HAVE THE EXCEL VERSIONS OF THOSE MODELS, AND WE CAN PLAY AND MESS AROUND WITH ANY REQUEST LOOKING AT DIFFERENT NUMBERS LIKE THAT. SO IS IT I MEAN, IN YOUR OPINION, IS IT FACTORED IN THERE OR.

YES. THE POST-CLOSURE NUMBER THAT THEY'RE USING.

THE NEW NUMBER.

CORRECT. IT IS THE NEW NUMBER, RIGHT.

IT IS THE HIGHER THAN PRIOR YEAR NUMBERS.

RIGHT. PERSONALLY I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER TO USE.

I MEAN THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CONTRIBUTION THAT'S REQUIRED, LET'S SAY WHETHER IT'S HERE, THERE OR QUEEN ANNE'S TO CONTRIBUTE AND REACH.

RIGHT. BUT THERE'S A CATCH UP FACTOR NOW BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PUTTING ENOUGH AWAY.

AND THAT'S THE QUESTION.

AND I THINK WE COULD ALSO ARGUE THE, THE NON INVESTMENT OF THE CLOSURE FUND AS WELL AND NOT HAVING IT IN A INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT OR ANY TYPE OF LOW RISK CD OR ANYTHING.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAS SAT FOR YEARS WITH NO ACCRUAL OF COMPOUND INTEREST.

[02:45:02]

YEAH. SO I THINK I KNOW THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT TALBOT'S GOING THROUGH ON THE MEETING.

SO JOE WHO HAS PUT THE MODEL TOGETHER IS GOING TO TALBOT.

TODD IS GOING AND SUPPORT AS WELL.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH THIS WITH TALBOT'S COUNCIL.

I THINK IN THEIR REGARDS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE REALLY SEEING THIS OR DIVING INTO IT.

I THINK ONCE WE GET SOME TYPE OF FEEDBACK FROM THAT MEETING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THE SAME WITH YOU GUYS.

JOE HAS OFFERED TO COME IN AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE AND THE CALCULATIONS.

I THINK TO THE MODEL AND THE WAY IT SPEAKS, THIS WAS REALLY HIS APPROACH, WITH SOME INPUT FROM THE ADMINISTRATORS AND MES OF THE WHOLE ASPECT AND LIFE OF THE LANDFILL, WHICH I THINK IS A LITTLE.

WELL, I THINK IT'D BE MORE CONSTRUCTIVE FOR HIM TO COME AND TALK TO US FIRST BEFORE HE GOES TO TALBOT, BECAUSE WHAT'S HE GOING TO TRY TO DO, SELL US ON WHAT TALBOT'S WILLING TO DO. I MEAN, WE'RE WHEN IS THEIR MEETING? 26, I BELIEVE.

I THINK THEIRS IS ON THE 26TH APRIL OR I THINK MARCH.

MARCH. NOT TO GO INTO TOO MANY DETAILS OF KIND OF THE BACK END NEGOTIATIONS.

THE FOUR COUNTIES AGAIN, MUST BE UNANIMOUS AND DECISION.

AND IF THERE WAS NO APPETITE FOR TALBOT, KENT OR QUEEN ANNE'S TO EVEN ENTERTAIN A HOST FEE.

THEY DIDN'T FEEL IT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTIVE TO WRITE TO EVEN HAVE.

OKAY, GO THROUGH THIS.

OKAY. SO THE THOUGHT WAS KENT AND QUEEN ANNE SEEMED TO BE PRETTY UP TO DATE ON THIS.

LET'S UPDATE TALBOT AND LAND AT CAROLINE.

WITH THE FINAL DISCUSSION AND THEN IT WOULD BE ULTIMATELY THE BOARD'S DECISION TO PROPOSE WHAT THEY FEEL IS THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER, AND THEN THE OTHER THREE CAN VOTE, OKAY, YAY OR NAY ON IT.

ALL RIGHT. SO BUT I WILL CERTAINLY SHARE THAT MODEL WHEN WE LEAVE HERE TODAY WITH THE GROUP.

AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN HELP TRY TO ANSWER, I CERTAINLY WILL.

BUT THE THE BEHIND THE SCENES, THE FULL CALCULATIONS ARE REALLY JOE'S MODEL AND HIS APPROACH TO THE LANDFILL AND CASH ANALYSIS THAT HE'S PUT TOGETHER.

SO YEP. OKAY.

AND JOE DID IT FROM A FROM MY OBSERVATION ANYWAY, A VERY NEUTRAL PERSPECTIVE.

HE IS NOT TRYING TO SELL ANY PARTICULAR IDEA ON THERE.

HE LAID IT OUT TWO AND FOUR, THREE AND FIVE, FOUR AND SIX.

WHAT THOSE MEAN OVER TIME AND HOW YOU WOULD ACCOMMODATE THOSE DIFFERENT NUMBERS.

SO I THINK HE'S PRETTY NEUTRAL.

I THINK HE DID A GREAT JOB.

YEAH. YEAH. HIS BACKGROUND I THINK WITH WORKING FOR BOTH MES AT ONE POINT, ALSO QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY, I MEAN, HE'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST INDIVIDUALS THAT KNOWS BOTH SIDES OF THE PICTURES TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.

BUT YES, I AGREE, I'M VERY NEUTRAL.

JUST THE FACTS. JUST THE FACTS.

YEAH. I JUST I KNOW HE HAD A SIDE IN HIS EAR SAYING, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE NEW ACCRUAL OR, YOU KNOW, NEW, IS IT ACCRUAL NUMBERS? YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND HE WAS VERY I WON'T SAY DIRECT IN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HE WAS ASKING MES.

I MEAN, HE WAS ONE OF THE THE ONES HARPING ON THE NO INTEREST ACCOUNT, THE NUMBERS GOING UP.

HE RIGHT.

IT JUMPED TO HIM JUST LIKE IT DID TO ANY OTHER DID TO US.

SO YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, KATHLEEN? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ONE THING.

SO LAST TUESDAY, WE HAD BROUGHT UP THE PIPE OUT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS MAIN BUILDING.

POST THAT MEETING FACILITIES HAS REACHED OUT TO THREE DIFFERENT PIPE VENDORS, AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED COST FOR THAT 275 FOOT STRETCH.

YEP. IT RANGES FROM ANYWHERE TO 26 TO, I THINK HIGH END TO $30,000 FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT INSTALLATION WOULD BE.

AND MR. BARINO AT ONE POINT HAD PUT A NUMBER TO THAT.

IF YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION NOW, PUT IT ON FOR NEXT MEETING TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT, WHETHER IT'S TOTAL REPLACEMENT REALIGNMENT, I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT IS BEING WORKED ON.

AND IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HOPEFULLY WRAP THAT UP OR GET A DECISION MADE, WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR NEXT TUESDAY IF YOU WANT OR NOW IT'S WHATEVER'S EASIEST.

[02:50:02]

IT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S UP TO LARRY.

WOULD YOU RATHER WAIT TILL YOU GET BACK, LARRY? LET'S DO IT NEXT WEEK WHEN LARRY'S BACK.

GIVE ME A CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT I THINK THE COST TO INSTALL IS GOING TO BE.

THE RELINE WAS 240,000, I THINK.

246, 42.

YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. DID YOU RECEIVE THE COPY OF THE QUOTES THAT WE GOT FOR THE VARIOUS? I THINK SO, OKAY.

I SAY WE SEND THEM TO THE GROUP SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE THEM.

I'LL LOOK, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST RESEND IT.

PLAN ON RESENDING IT.

YEAH. I'LL BE EASIER FOR ME TO FIND IT.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. COUNTY COMMISSIONER, URBAN DISCUSSION, PERIOD.

COMMISSIONER BARTZ, YOU WANT TO GO? YEAH, SURE. I ATTENDED THE HISTORICAL CAROLINE COUNTY'S HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAD A KICK OFF 250 YEAR ANNIVERSARY PARTY FRIDAY NIGHT. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AS MR. BAKER CONTESTED THE STANDING ROOM ONLY.

PLACE WAS FILLED. EVERY HISTORICAL SOCIETY IN CAROLINE COUNTY IS REPRESENTED.

WE HAD CITIZENS FROM ONE END TO THE COUNTY TO THE OTHER.

IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T GET TO STAY.

THEN I HAD TO GO TO THE 4H PARK, TO THE FOUR-H BANQUET.

SPOKE THERE BRIEFLY.

IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AS WELL.

SO THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON THIS WEEKEND IN CAROLINE COUNTY, SO THAT'S ALL I GOT.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER PORTER.

YEAH I HAD A PHONE CALL YESTERDAY FROM JIM LEWIS, WHO WAS QUESTIONING ME ABOUT US, ABOUT THE SOLAR PANELS ON PROPERTIES THAT HAD

[County Commissioners Open Discussion Period]

HE JUST WAS ASKING SOME QUESTIONS.

I DON'T THINK HE ULTIMATELY AGREED WITH THE DECISION, BUT I WILL, I TOLD HIM WHAT I THOUGHT OUR PURPOSE WAS AND DID THE BEST I COULD WITH HIM.

I WOULD ALSO ASK JEN, I'M GETTING BOMBARDED HERE WITH INFORMATION FROM BRUCE BURIANO ABOUT BILLS. BUT, JEN, IF YOU COULD MAYBE WRITE THESE DOWN.

HOUSE BILL 1115, TRANSPARENCY AND EDUCATION SPENDING ACT AND SENATE BILL 1102 AND HOUSE BILL 1426, BLUEPRINT FUNDING ALTERATIONS.

I'M TRYING TO READ THROUGH THESE.

IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THE ALTERATIONS HAS TO DO WITH INCORPORATING FUNDING FOR DUTY CENTERS.

MY SUGGESTION MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD BE AFTER SESSION THAT WE SCHEDULE A TIME FOR SIMMONS AND HIS STAFF TO COME IN AND REVIEW THE BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED WITH US BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO READ THESE, BUT I'M HONESTLY, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THIS ALL MEANS TO US.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE BEING PUT ON THE LOCAL BOARD OF EDUCATION MEMBERS TO COME UP WITH PLANS ABOUT RATING TEACHERS AND, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF WE HAD A SESSION WITH HIM TO GO THROUGH AND LET HIM KNOW THE LOCAL EFFECT ON THESE BILLS, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THESE ARE IN THEIR THIRD READING.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO PASS.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE TIME WELL WORTH SPENT.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE SCHEDULED WITH THEM FOR ANOTHER MEETING, JOINT MEETING HERE ANYTIME SOON.

SO AS SOON AFTER SESSION AS WE CAN GO, AS WE CAN GET IT DONE, THE BETTER.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANKS FOR ACCOMMODATING ME TODAY.

HOPEFULLY, SEE YOU TUESDAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR VACATION DOWN THERE IF WE DON'T TALK TO YOU.

SO.. THANKS.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING.

SO JUST WORKING BASEBALL AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF AROUND HERE, BUT I THINK WE'VE COVERED IT ALL.

SO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END HERE? GOOD. OKAY.

[Public Comment]

[Meeting Adjourned]

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE AYE AYE.

OKAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.