>> WE GOT A SLUGGER COMING IN PINCH HITTING FOR US. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.
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WE HAVE PASTOR DON REYNOLDS WITH CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH HERE TO DO OUR INVOCATION, AND THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE SO IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE RISE.>> LET'S PRAY. FATHER, WE COME THIS MORNING AND WE COME REJOICING IN THAT YOU ARE VERY GOD AND YOU'RE THE ONE THAT SEES ALL, KNOWS ALL AND YOU CARE ABOUT AT ALL.
I DO THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMISSIONER'S MEETING AND CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I ASK LORD THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND ALSO THEIR STAFF AND THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM TO SEE THINGS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND TO MAKE SOME WISE DECISIONS, TOUGH DECISIONS.
LORD, WE LIVE IN SUCH DAYS WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH DECEPTION AND SO MUCH DECISION MAKING THAT'S POOR.
BUT WE WOULD ASK LORD YOU TO BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR LOVED ONES.
NOW, LORD, WE ALSO ASK YOUR BLESSING ON YOUR CITIZENS HERE IN THIS COUNTY, LORD.
WE SEE SUCH A DECLINE AND WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING AND YOUR HELP AND TURNING TO YOU OVER.
LORD, THERE'S NONE LIKE UNTO YOU, AND WE BELIEVE LORD, YOU'RE A GREAT GOD AND A GOOD GOD, AND YOU STILL THE ONE THAT BLESSES US.
BLESS THIS MEETING TODAY, ALL THAT TAKES PLACE, CONVERSATIONS THAT TAKE PLACE, AND WE ARE EXPECTANT OF YOU, LOOKING FOR YOU TO DO GREAT THINGS.
WE KNOW ALSO THAT IT'S ELECTION DAY AND WE PRAY LORD THAT THERE WOULD BE GOOD, FAIR AND HONEST ELECTIONS, AND THAT YOUR WILL WILL BE DONE THROUGH THEM.
WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN.
>> PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THE BUDGET HEARING LAST WEEK AND THE COMMISSIONER MEETING. I WAS UNDER THE WEATHER.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PORTER FOR RUNNING THE MEETING FOR ME IN MY ABSENCE, THE TWO MEETINGS.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
[Public Comment]
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? NO? WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS THE HONORABLE JUDGE PRICE OF[The Honorable Judge Price, Circuit Court]
CAROLINE COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT WITH A PROCLAMATION[Proclamation for May 2024 as National Drug Court Treatment Month]
FOR MAY 2024 AS NATIONAL DRUG COURT TREATMENT MONTH.COMMISSIONER BARTZ, I BELIEVE HAS THE PROCLAMATION.
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO GET ON YOUR AGENDA AND YOUR SUPPORT OF THE PROCLAMATION.
I HAVE LOTS OF THE TEAM MEMBERS HERE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING INTRODUCTIONS.
EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM STAND UP, SO [INAUDIBLE].
[LAUGHTER] DAN BOSTON RIGHT HERE IN THE GREEN.
HE'S A OFFICE PUBLIC DEFENDER.
ALEXA HIGGINS, SHE'S ONE OF OUR NEW GRANT FUNDED EMPLOYEES, IS WORKING ON THAT FEDERAL GRANT PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE'VE GOT.
MICHELLE BECKY WHO IS THE COORDINATOR FOR THE WHOLE PROBLEM SOLVING COURT, SABRINA [INAUDIBLE] THE COORDINATOR OF THE PROBLEM SOLVING COURTS OUT OF AOC SO SHE HELPS US, SUPERVISES US IN A WAY AND HELPS US WITH BEST PRACTICES AND STANDARDS.
WE HAVE IN THE BACK NICK DIXON,OUR DEPUTY WARDEN [INAUDIBLE] AS A TEAM MEMBER, AND WE HAVE OUR STATE'S ATTORNEY, [INAUDIBLE], WHO'S ALSO TEAM MEMBER AND [INAUDIBLE] OUR DEPUTY STATE'S ATTORNEY ALSO ROTATES AS ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS.
WE HAVE QUITE A DIVERSE MEMBERSHIP OF PEOPLE THAT COME TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO TRY TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESS.
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS SERVICE YOU'RE PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY SO GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. MR. MARKS.
WHEREAS SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS A MAJOR SOCIETAL PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WHEREAS THE ALL RISE FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF DRUG COURT PROFESSIONALS, PROCLAIM MAY AS A NATIONAL TREATMENT COURT MONTH, WHEREAS, THE CAROLINE COUNTY PROBLEM SOLVING COURT MAKES THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND CO OCCURRING MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AVAILABLE TO PARTICIPANTS, WHEREAS THE PROBLEM SOLVING COURT PROVIDES FOCUS AND LEADERSHIP FOR THE COMMUNITY WIDE, ANTI DRUG SYSTEMS BRINGING TOGETHER CRIMINAL JUSTICE, TREATMENT, EDUCATION, AND OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS IN THE FIGHT AGAINST DRUGS AND CRIMINALITY,
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AND WHEREAS THE PROBLEM SOLVING COURT PROGRAMS COMBINE INTENSIVE JUDICIAL SUPERVISION, MANDATORY MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, DRUG TESTING, AND ESCALATING SANCTIONS AND INCENTIVES IN ORDER TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF DRUG ADDICTION AND THE ASSOCIATED CRIMES AND NOW, THEREFORE, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CAROLINE COUNTY OF MARYLAND HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY 2024 AS NATIONAL TREATMENT COURT MONTH.THE BOARD URGES ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE PRACTITIONERS AND PARTICIPANTS WHO MAKE THE PROBLEM SOLVING COURT WORK AND THE SIGNIFICANT TRUNK CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THE PROBLEM SOLVING COURT HAD MADE AND CONTINUE TO MAKE IN REDUCING DRUG USE AND CRIME.
[INAUDIBLE] CLAIM THIS IS 14TH DAY OF MAY 2024 BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CAROLINE COUNTY, MARYLAND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND GIVING PEOPLE ALTERNATIVE, THEN NOT GIVING UP AND BEING INCARCERATED, JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THAT'S GIVING PEOPLE ANOTHER CHANCE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S A WORTHWHILE PROGRAM FOR SURE.
AS MOST PEOPLE KNOW, IT'S A POST SENTENCING DIVERSIONARY PROGRAM.
IT TAKES AT LEAST A YEAR TO GET THROUGH IT AND IT INCLUDES ALL THE THINGS YOU READ IN THAT PROCLAMATION.
WE'RE HAVING GRADUATION NEXT MONDAY THE 20TH.
THERE ARE THREE PARTICIPANTS, TAKES AT LEAST A YEAR TO GET THROUGH SO IT'S A REAL COMMITMENT.
THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED AND THEIR STORIES ARE WONDERFULLY UPLIFTING TO HEAR HOW WE'RE RETURNING PEOPLE TO OUR COMMUNITY FROM OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE GOING TO NOW BE SO MUCH MORE INCLUDED AND HAPPY AND PRODUCTIVE AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED AT THE STORIES THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH, SO WE APPRECIATE.
YOU'VE ALL BEEN INVITED. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU.
I THINK IT'S AT 2 O'CLOCK ON MONDAY. IS THAT RIGHT, 2 O'CLOCK?
>> 2:30. SAY, I'VE GOT THE WHOLE TEAM [LAUGHTER] BEHIND ME TO CORRECT ME.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU. IT'S ON MY CALENDAR.
>> CAN YOU GET IN HERE TOO. ARE YOU IN? IS HE IN THE PICTURE? OKAY.
EVERYBODY'S SMILING, MR. PORTER.
[LAUGHTER] WE GOT TO KEEP YOU HONEST.
>> IS HE STILL SMILING? [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]
>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. [BACKGROUND]
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU. [BACKGROUND]
>> OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS DANIEL FOX,
[Daniel Fox, Deputy Administrator & Stacy Seward, Grant Coordinator, Office of Finance]
DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR AND STACY STEWART, GRANT COORDINATOR, OFFICE OF FINANCE, FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET WORKSHOP.>>GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
>> BEFORE YOU TODAY YOU SHOULD HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS; ONE BEING OUR OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH IS PRESENTED ON A LEGAL SIZE PIECE OF PAPER, AND THEN THE OTHER IS CAPITAL.
ESSENTIALLY TODAY, STACY AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER WHERE WE STAND WITH THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET, SINCE WE HAD OUR PROPOSED PUBLIC HEARING LAST WEEK, SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS AND SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE POTENTIAL ADOPTION ALIGNING UP ON, I BELIEVE, MAY 28TH.
FIRST, WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE BUDGET SINCE WE HAD THE PROPOSED VERSION THAT WENT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
A LOT OF THESE ITEMS ARE JUST CLEAN UP THROUGH THE PROCESS.
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PROBABLY THE FIRST AND BIGGEST CHANGES, WE'VE HAD SHERRY AND HR GO THROUGH AND UPDATE ALL THE SALARY FIGURES AND BENEFITS BASED OFF ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT WE KNOW.WE ACTUALLY HAD A REDUCTION IN WORKERS' COMP.
I BELIEVE IT WAS CLOSE TO $100,000 ONCE WE ADDED UP ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS FOR THAT ONE LINE ITEM.
BUT AGAIN, JUST SQUARING UP SOME OF THE BENEFITS, SALARIES.
THAT'S NOW REFLECTED IN THIS VERSION.
IF YOU FLIP TO THE SECOND PAGE OR THE BACK OF THE LEGAL DOCUMENT, WE RECEIVED OUR FINAL BLUEPRINT BOARD OF ED NUMBER.
WHEN YOU TAKE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE SHOW UNDER EDUCATION FOR BOE AND THEN BOE TEACHER PENSION AND ADD THOSE TOGETHER, THAT IS OUR FINAL NUMBER.
FOR REFERENCE THIS YEAR WE HAVE ENDED UP $2,415,527 ABOVE OUR LAST YEAR NUMBER.
JUST OVER $2.4 MILLION WAS OUR INCREASE THIS YEAR FOR BLUEPRINT.
AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THIS DOCUMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE HOST FEE REVENUE PLACED INTO THE REVENUE SIDE SINCE, IN CONCEPT, ALL PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO A HOST FEE.
WE HAVE NOW INCORPORATED $420,000 INTO THE REVENUE FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET.
THEN WHERE I WAS GOING, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED HAS BEEN SQUARED UP THROUGH WHAT WE'RE SHOWING AS OUR CAPITAL ALLOCATION.
THE PROPOSED CAPITAL ALLOCATION HAD ABOUT 5.1 MILLION.
WE'VE ESSENTIALLY SHOWN THE INCREASE IN REVENUE FOR THE HOST FEE AND HAVE PLACED THAT INTO THE CAPITAL ALLOCATION TO BE SHIFTED OVER TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE CAPITAL DOCUMENT, OUR FIRST LINE ITEM, ON THE VERY TOP, WE HAVE FUTURE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M GOING TO LABEL AS OUR CATCH ALL, OR ALLOCATION FOR, AGAIN, FUTURE PROJECTS.
THAT WAS INITIALLY ABOUT 1.1, AND CHANGE 1.2.
THIS NOW REFLECTS 1.6, WHICH, AGAIN, IS THE HOST FEE NUMBER COMING AND TRANSFERRING OVER THROUGH THERE.
I'LL STOP THERE FOR A SECOND AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COUPLE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE.
>> WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO MOVE INTO NEXT, DANNY? THE TAX RATE?
>> YES, THE TAX RATE AND THEN THE ADOPTION ON THE 28TH.
>> I HAD A CONVERSATION THIS MORNING WITH DR. SIMMONS AND THE BOARD OF ED NUMBER IS STILL UP IN THE AIR.
THEY STILL BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME PRE-K ENROLLMENT NUMBERS THAT ARE NOT CORRECT.
THE STATE IS REPORTING QUITE A FEW MORE PRE-K PRIVATE PROVIDER ENROLLEES THAN THERE ACTUALLY ARE, ACCORDING TO THEM.
I THINK THE STATE SAYING THERE'S 56 AND THE COUNTY BOARD OF ED ONLY HAS RECORD OF 18.
>> IT'S LIKE A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
THEY'RE UNABLE TO ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM.
>> YOU'VE BEEN SITTING UP HERE NEXT TO ME TOO LONG.
>> NO. [LAUGHTER] I GOT A CONFIRMATION THIS MORNING, THEY CANNOT HANDLE IT ALL.
WE'RE GOING TO RIDE THIS TRAIN RIGHT OFF THE CLIFF.
WE'RE GOING TO RIDE IT RIGHT UP TO THE END BECAUSE THEY WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE POLITICAL PRESSURE IS TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO FAIL.
WE ARE LITERALLY RIDING THE TRAIN TO THE CLIFF.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON A PROGRAM THAT THEY KNOW ISN'T WORKING.
>> EVERYONE KNOWS IT ISN'T. THEY JUST WON'T ADMIT IT.
THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND IT SO WE'RE GOING TO RIDE IT RIGHT UP TO THE FUNDING CLIFF.
>> I WOULD BET YOU THAT IF YOU PUT EVERY COUNTY BUDGET PERSON IN THIS ROOM AND PUT THEM ON A LIE DETECTOR, EVERY ONE OF THEM WOULD SAY THIS IS WORKING.
>> 2.4 MILLION TO CAROLINE COUNTY IS UNSUSTAINABLE.
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I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY FROM THE STATE PAYS ATTENTION TO THESE MEETINGS BUT IT'S UNSUSTAINABLE FOR US IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY WITH A HALF A MILLION DOLLAR DISPARITY GRANT CUT THIS YEAR.>> THIS NUMBER IS THE SECOND FINAL VERSION I'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST WEEK.
YESTERDAY AT 1:30 WAS THE LATEST FINAL [OVERLAPPING]
>> MAY 14TH, WE'VE HAD TWO BUDGET HEARINGS AND THEY STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR NUMBER IS.
>> THEY CAN THUMB THEIR NOSE AT US AND SAY WE'RE NOT GETTING ON BOARD, AND LOOK DOWN AT US.
I'M REFERRING TO MSD AND THE STATE, ALL THEY WANT.
BUT IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THEY'RE IN OVER THEIR HEADS.
THEY HAVE WRITTEN REGULATIONS AND PASSED A LAW THAT EVEN THE EXPERTS CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
IT'S CENTRALIZED GOVERNMENT, ONE SIZE FITS ALL, AND THEY CAN'T MANAGE IT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
THAT'S BLUEPRINT IN A NUTSHELL.
>> WHAT IT HAS DONE, IN A LOT OF CASES, HAS DRIVEN A WEDGE BETWEEN THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
IN THIS STATE YOU'VE GOT THEM SUING EACH OTHER NOW.
THAT'S WHAT THIS HAS GENERATED.
LUCKILY, WE STILL HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] AND I'M TELLING YOU DOWN THE ROAD HERE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THIS.
WE'RE JUST NOT. THIS 2.4 MILLION IS NOT FIXING THE ROAD, NOT PAYING OUR PEOPLE MORE MONEY, NOT DOING ANY INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S JUST STRICTLY A CHECK THAT GETS WRITTEN TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
>> DANNY, I GUESS, A COUPLE KEY THINGS THAT WE COULD HIT ON BEFORE WE FINALIZE THIS THING, AND I HATE TO POP THIS ON YOU.
>> ROBIN'S HERE, SO DIRT ROADS LAST WINTER WERE A MAJOR HOT POINT THERE FOR STRETCH WHEN WE WERE IN THE DARKEST PART OF WINTER, GETTING A LOT OF PRECIPITATION, DAYS WERE SHORT, WATER WAS LAYING ON THE ROADS.
DO WE FEEL LIKE PUBLIC WORKS HAS ENOUGH IN THIS BUDGET TO GET AHEAD OF THIS? BECAUSE THE TIME TO WORK ON IT IS GOING TO BE JUNE, JULY, AUGUST.
ARE WE ROLLING ANYTHING OVER THAT YOU FORESEE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH HERE?
>> I GUESS, I'LL GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ROBIN AND I HAVE HAD.
ROBIN DID COME AND SIT DOWN, AND MET WITH ME ABOUT CAPITAL AND WE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET THAT IS IN THIS YEAR, AND WHAT WE WOULD LOOK TO ROLL.
I THINK IT'S THE INTENTION FROM THE STAFF AND CREW IS TO TRY TO SPEND DOWN AS MUCH OF THE FY24 FUNDING FOR CAPITAL PROJECT FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE STILL HAVE A VERY LARGE PART OF MONEY FOR WHAT WE ARE SETTING ASIDE FOR ARPA FOR WHAT WE'VE LABELED AS DIRT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE CURRENTLY STILL WORKING WITH LYNN TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT DOING, I THINK, IT'S JONES CORNER AND WOLF ROAD FOR PAVING, BUT THERE'S ABOUT $1.5 MILLION THERE TO DO DIRT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE CONVERSIONS.
>> TO TOWNSHIP. WHAT WAS THE ONE WE GOT A LOT ON? I KNOW, LANTZ [OVERLAPPING].
THEN IS IT THE DIRT PART OF BAKER ROAD?
>> WE WERE GOING TO CONVERT EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH FUNDING IN THIS BUDGET THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO GET THEM TO DRAIN AND BE PASSABLE THE ENTIRE WINTER THIS YEAR.
>> I FEEL THERE IS ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS CAPITAL TO DO NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS FOR WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO.
>> I'M SURE THERE'LL BE OTHERS.
WHAT WAS THE ONE I STARTED TO, WAS IT COUNTY FARM ROAD, OR WAS ONE OUT THAT WAS-
BUT IN GENERAL, THEY COULD ALL USE SOME TLC.
DIRT ROADS, WE THINK WE'RE COVERED.
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HOW ABOUT COURTHOUSE MAINTENANCE, CLOCK TOWER? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAINTAIN THIS BUILDING?>> CLOCK TOWER AS A WHOLE, SO IF WE GO TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET SHEET AND ABOUT, SAY, TWO-THIRDS OF THE WAY DOWN WE HAVE COURTHOUSE IDENTIFIED.
TWO OF THE MAIN ITEMS THAT THE BOARD IDENTIFIED WAS FINISHING UP SOME OF THE BRICK POINTING.
WE WORKED WITH KEVIN AND HIS SHOP TO GET A FINAL NUMBER ON FINISHING THE BUILDING WITH THE $90,000, SO THAT'S REFLECTED THERE.
WE'RE ROLLING OVER THE $150,000 FOR THE CLOCK TOWER REPAIR WITH THE INTENTION OF HAVING AN ENGINEER COME IN AND ACTUALLY DO AN ANALYSIS ON THE CLOCK TOWER.
WE'VE STARTED THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH DAVIS, BOWEN, & FRIEDEL.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NOT HAD A FINISHED PRODUCT COME BACK THAT HAS PROVIDED US WITH A NUMBER OF WHAT THAT MAY BE.
I THINK THIS YEAR THE INTENTION FROM MY SEAT, AT LEAST, WOULD BE IF THAT NUMBER COMES BACK ABOVE $150,000, WE WOULD LOOK TO PULL THE DIFFERENCE FROM THAT FUTURE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED AT THE TOP.
I THINK THE MONEY IS DEFINITELY THERE.
IT'S JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND TIMING WITH THE ENGINEER TO TRY TO GET THAT BUDGETED, OR A GOOD PLAN.
>> THEN THE LAST THING I HAD WAS, I KNOW I WAS JUST GRIPING ABOUT HOW MUCH WERE GIVEN TO THE SCHOOLS FOR OPERATING, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME CAMPUS ISSUES.
I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR BATHROOMS AT NORTH CAROLINE AND COLONEL.
JUST IN GENERAL, BOTH CAMPUSES WERE REALLY FALLING BEHIND OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AS FAR AS QUALITY OF APPEARANCE AND ACCESSIBILITY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AT BOTH NORTH CAROLINE AND AT COLONEL.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING SOME SOD REPLACEMENT AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL'S FOOTBALL FIELD, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TOTALLY REDO THE BASEBALL INFIELD IS MY UNDERSTANDING THIS YEAR.
THEY HAVE SOME SHED MAINTENANCE, ROOF REPLACEMENT, LITTLE MAINTENANCE TYPE STUFF GOING TO HAPPEN AT COLONEL, BUT COLONEL'S CAMPUS LOOKS LIKE A DUMP WITH THOSE ROTTEN PORTABLE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SITTING AROUND THERE.
I DON'T KNOW, IS IT TOO LATE FOR US TO PUT SOMETHING ASIDE FOR AT LEAST MAYBE TO GET SOME ENGINEERING STARTED FOR THIS BATHROOM STUFF THIS YEAR, OR?
>> WHETHER THEY USE IT OR NOT, I KNOW TO DO ANY CONSTRUCTION, DR. SIMMONS FELT LIKE HE PROBABLY WAS TOO BUSY TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING THIS SUMMER, BUT MAYBE NEXT SUMMER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY APPETITE TO PUT ANYTHING IN THE QUEUE TO AT LEAST DO SOME ENGINEERING FOR THE BATHROOMS OR TRY TO GET A GAME PLAN TOGETHER FOR THAT.
>> AS FAR AS TIMING GOES, NO, WE'RE WELL WITHIN OUR PROCESS AND RIGHTS TO DO AN ADJUSTMENT TO THIS DOCUMENT.
UNDER BOE WE COULD CERTAINLY THROW A LINE ITEM FOR THAT.
WE WOULD JUST PULL THE DIFFERENCE FROM THAT TOP FUTURE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEM AND IDENTIFY WHATEVER THE FUNDING WOULD BE TO THAT PROJECT.
>> WHEN YOU MENTIONED, FOR EXAMPLE, THE INFIELD, LIKE NORTH CAROLINE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE SOD THAT IS ON THAT INFIELD RIGHT NOW, I PAID FOR IT.
[NOISE] I THINK YOU ALL PUT IT DOWN.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS SOD THAT HAD BEEN DONATED, PARTIAL PALLETS OF SOD, AND I AGREED TO PAY FOR IT.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS A BULLDOG BOOSTER CLUB THAT WAS ESTABLISHED THAT WAS GOING TO RAISE MONEY FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FIELD.
I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL HAVE IT.
I KNOW COLONEL HAS AN ACTIVE BOOSTER PROGRAM, AND I KNOW THAT THEY BUY THE JERSEYS FOR THE SENIORS.
NORMALLY, THEY GIVE THE SENIORS THE JERSEYS WHEN THEY LEAVE.
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THEY BUY BASEBALL EQUIPMENT, INFIELD DIRT, SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT ARE ACTIVELY HELPING BOTH.
I HAVE TRAVELED A LOT, I'VE BEEN TO NORTH DORCHESTER, SEEN THEIR CAMPUS, BEEN TO CAMBRIDGE, NATURALLY, EASTON'S CAMPUSES, QUEEN ANNE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST LAGGING BEHIND TERRIBLY.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS NOT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IF WE CAN JUST CLEAN UP SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS, MAKE THE DUG ON PLACES MORE PRESENTABLE THAN WHAT THEY ARE TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE HELP, AND MAYBE START THE BALL ROLLING FOR THIS BATHROOM PROJECT.
WE CAN CROSS THE BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE NEXT YEAR AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO ACTUALLY SEE THE PROJECT THROUGH THE FRUITION.
BUT I THINK IF WE CAN MAYBE GET A GAME PLAN TOGETHER AND EXPLORE SOME OPTIONS, THAT'S THE BIG THING.
WHEN YOU GO TO THESE OTHER HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAMES AND STUFF, THEY'VE GOT NICER BATHROOMS AND STUFF, AND THE CROWD AT BOTH OF OUR CAMPUSES ARE GOING IN PORTA POTTIES.
NO PLACE TO WASH YOUR HANDS, NOT REALLY SANITARY CONDITIONS.
THAT'S WHAT MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT WAS WITH THIS.
>> YOU'VE GOT TWO SCHOOLS. NORTH CAROLINE, IN RECENT YEARS, THE FOOTBALL HAS BEEN COMPETITIVE.
COLONEL HAS BEEN VERY COMPETITIVE WITH FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL.
THEY GET A LOT OF SUPPORT. I FEEL THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE INVESTED IN THERE IN THIS.
>> DO WE HAVE A NUMBER IN MIND THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO LINE ITEM FOR THIS?
>> DOES IT COME OUT OF PROBABLY CAPITAL?
>> SO THAT TOP LINE ITEM THAT'S THE 1.6, WE WOULD PULL FROM THAT.
THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ALLOCATE TO.
>> WE HAVE 1.6 IN CAPITAL CONTINGENCY FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
SO IF WE PULL 100 GRAND, THAT WOULD LEAVE US 1.5?
>> THIS IS KIND OF PREMATURE, BUT WHERE ARE WE? DO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT THE END OF THE YEAR? LIKE A SCOPE.
AM I ASKING TOO SOON OR? IT'S A LITTLE SOON TO BE HONEST.
[OVERLAPPING] I'VE STARTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND PROJECT OUT ALL OF OUR FINAL ALLOCATIONS, PAY ROLL, AND SEE WHERE WE FINISH.
WE'RE DEFINITELY TRENDING ONLINE, IF NOT BETTER THAN WE WERE WITH LAST YEAR.
LAST YEAR, WE FINISHED, I BELIEVE, AROUND 3.5 TO THE GOOD.
SO BARRING NO MAJOR CHANGES OR HITS TO THE BUDGET, I'D ESTIMATE WE'D FINISH ROUGHLY AROUND THE SAME.
SO WE SHOULD BE PUTTING MONEY TO FUND BALANCE.
>> MY SUGGESTION, WE KEEP REALLY CLOSE EYES ON THE THREE OF US APPROVING WHATEVER IS USED FOR.
AND IF WE DON'T SPEND IT, WE DON'T SPEND IT, BUT AT LEAST IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR YOU IF WE'VE GOT IT LINED UP.
>> YEAH. AND I CAN SAY EARMARK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND THEY CAN BUILD FROM SPECIFICALLY AGAINST THAT.
>> I JUST THINK AGAIN, WHEN WE GO BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, THAT 2.4 GO A LONG WAY TOWARD THESE TANGIBLE THINGS THAT WE CAN SEE, THAT WE KNOW WE'VE USED IT FOR.
BUT I THINK ON THE BATHROOM SIDE, THE FIRST THING WE GOT TO LOOK AT IS WHAT WE HAVE THERE FOR CAPACITY.
I MEAN, WE'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF FIELDS THERE.
SO I MEAN, IT ISN'T LIKE WE GOT A MUNICIPAL SYSTEM.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
I THINK YOU PUT A PREFAB BUILDING LIKE THE TOWN OF DENTON PUT OUT HERE AT SHARP ROAD, COUPLE OF THOSE, A GRINDER PUMP, AND YOU TIE INTO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S AS HEAVY A LIFT AS THEY MADE IT OUT.
>> I MEAN, JUST RUNNING THE LINE.
>> IF YOU PUT A GRINDER AND A FORCE MAINTENANCE, IT'S NOT THAT GOOD DEAL.
WITH MY BACKGROUND, I THINK IT'S PRETTY EASY TO FIX, I THINK.
>> AND I KNOW RECENTLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SOCIAL SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS ABOUT THE SIGN IN NORTH CAROLINA AND HOW BAD IT LOOKS AND EVERYTHING.
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THEN YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE MENTIONING THAT THE COUNTY DIDN'T GIVE THEM ENOUGH MONEY OUT.THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK FALL ON THE SCHOOL TO MAINTAIN.
>> I'LL CONTINUE TO TALK TO DOCTOR SIMMONS ABOUT IT, TOO, AND SEE WHAT FUNDS HE HAS AVAILABLE TO DO SOME OF THIS STUFF.
AND IF WE DON'T NEED THIS, THEN I'LL ASK HIM TO PULL IT OUT OF THOSE.
I KNOW THIS 2.4 MILLION IS SUPPOSE THE STATE TELLS THEM WHERE IT'S ALL GOT TO GO SUPPOSEDLY.
>> AND THAT'S THE TOUGH PART FOR THE STATE.
>> STATE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE FIELDS.
STATE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BATHROOMS. THEY DON'T.
>> I KNOW THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO LESLIE AND I LOOKED AT THE FIELD BATHROOM SITUATION AT NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL.
MY SON PLAYED OUT THERE TOO [LAUGHTER].
AND IT'S WEIRD THAT WE JUST HAVE THE PORTA POTTY, NOT LIKE A BATHROOM OUT THERE.
AND MY RECOLLECTION IS THEY COULDN'T HANDLE CONNECTING TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY.
SO LESLIE AND I PURSUED ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY STUFF WITH THE STATE TO SEE IF MAYBE WE COULD DO COMPOSTING TOILETS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE STATE DRAGGED THEIR FEET AND SAID THEY HADN'T APPROVED THE TECHNOLOGY, WHICH I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE CHESAPEAKE BAY FOUNDATION HAS ALL THOSE COMPOSTING TOILETS RIGHT IN THE CRITICAL AREA, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BUILDING IN ANNAPOLIS.
SO ANYWAY, LESLIE'S LISTENING TO THIS.
SHE SAID SHE'S GOING TO LOOK BACK INTO THE CAPACITY ISSUE ALSO AND WE CAN REVISIT?
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN NORTH CAROLINA IS ONLY DISCHARGING IN HALF OF THE GALLONS PER DAY THAT IT'S PERMITTED FOR.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL PEAK HOURS AFTER SCHOOLS OUT SO IT SHOULDN'T OVERLOAD THE SYSTEM.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ADDING MORE CAPACITY TO IT.
TO ME, IT SHOULD BE AS SIMPLE.
AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, MAYBE WE COULD PURSUE ONSITE DISPOSAL OR FIELD TRAINING OF SOME SORT THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
I'M SURE THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DO. SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING.
>> AND I THINK AT THAT TIME THERE WAS FUNDING LIMITATIONS ALSO.
SO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A COMBINATION OF DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
>> THEY DIDN'T WANT TO FUND THE COMPOSTING.
>> ANYWAY, LESLIE IS GOING TO LOOK INTO THEIR CAPACITY.
>> I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO IF WE CAN.
>> SO I GUESS I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EARMARK $100,000 OUT OF CAPITAL CONTINGENCY FOR POTENTIAL HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS IMPROVEMENTS AT BOTH NORTH CAROLINE HIGH SCHOOL AND COLONEL RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOL, SPECIFICALLY FOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS AND POTENTIAL BATHROOM.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> SO WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A NOTE AND HAVE THAT UPDATED FOR POTENTIAL ADOPTION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER BULLET POINTS THAT YOU WANTED TO COVER BEFORE I MENTIONED.
>> THAT'S WHAT I HAD ON MY LIST.
>> DID WE FINALIZE THE VEHICLES FOR THE DETENTION CENTER?
SO I BELIEVE, SECOND DEPARTMENT DOWN FROM THE TOP UNDER THAT ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE REPLACEMENT OF ONE TAHOE AT $80,000 FOR CORRECTION.
>> AND SO HOW MANY ARE WE GOING TO DISPOSE OF OR REPLACE OR MOVE.
A COUPLE OF THEM THEY DIDN'T USE OR SOMETHING?
>> THAT WOULD BE AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.
I KNOW THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF TAHOES THAT ARE HAND-ME DOWNS, I'LL JUST SAY, FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT ARE AGE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING, AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO START TO REPLACE.
SO I BELIEVE THE LAST CONVERSATION [OVERLAPPING].
WE HAVE THREE ON THE BACK SIDE OF WHAT I WANTED TO TAKE AT A LOOK.
>> WE'RE GOOD ON BRIDGE MATCH MONEY?
>> BRIDGE REPLACEMENT STUFF FOR PUBLIC WORKS?
>> DEFINITELY HAVE A HEALTHY, I'M GOING TO SAY, BRIDGE ALLOCATION FOR WHAT WE'RE CARRYING IN CAPITAL RESERVE.
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AND THEN THINKING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION AND CONVERSATION WE HAVE WITH THE STATE, THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO HAVE 100% FUNDED FUNDING ON CONSTRUCTION.I STILL THINK WE HAVE TO PAY THE 80-20 ON ENGINEERING UP FRONT.
BUT THAT'S VERY MINIMAL ON OUR END.
>> RIVER ROAD, ARE WE COVERED AS FAR AS PAVING THE BALANCE OF RIVER ROAD? WE SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH IN OUR PAVING LINE ITEM IN CAPITAL FOR NEXT YEAR, IF WE NEED TO ADD SOME MONEY FOR FINISHING OUT RIVER ROAD?
>> YES, SIR. WHILE WE'RE ON RIVER ROAD, I'LL JUST DO A QUICK UPDATE.
SO BIDS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM POTENTIAL CONTRACTORS.
THEY HAVE BEEN TURNED OVER TO OUR ENGINEER TO DO A FULL REVIEW OF.
I TALKED TO TIM AT LANE ENGINEERING AND THEY HAD A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANTED TO GO BACK AND SPEAK TO THE VARIOUS CONTRACTORS ABOUT.
AND THEN THEY WERE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL OF WHO THEY BELIEVE SHOULD BE AWARDED THE PROJECT.
SO AS SOON AS I HAVE CONFIRMATION OF THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOCK IN THAT CONTRACT AND HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TYPE OF FUNDING IS LEFT OVER FROM OUR ALLOCATION TO DO PAVING AND WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO FINISH CERTAIN AREAS OF THAT ROAD.
>> WHEN DID YOU EXPECT THE ENTRY TO BE BACK?
>> THE LAST FOLLOW UP I HAD WITH TIM, I BELIEVE WAS EARLY LAST WEEK.
MY ASSUMPTION IT WOULD BE ANY DAY, HONESTLY.
I KNOW HE WAS REACHING OUT TO THE TWO LOWEST AND GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE QUESTION ON DAMNING.
>> BUT WE'RE ABOUT A MONTH FROM SCHOOL BEING OUT.
>> WE'RE LOOKING JUNE 15TH, I BELIEVE, IS WHEN WE CAN START WORKING IN THE STREAM, SO THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO GET ROLLING PRE THEN.
>> SO THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IS OBVIOUSLY, THIS BOARD AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY HAVE NOW SIGNED AN MOU FOR POLICE COVERAGE, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT TO OUR BUDGET.
SO THE BUDGET THAT'S SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY DOES NOT HAVE THE ADDITION OF THAT BUT THOSE OFFICERS, THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.
STACY AND I HAVE TO HAVE A SIT DOWN WITH THE SHERIFF TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THAT BUDGETED IN CORRECTLY SO WE CAN TRACK WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE.
IN THEORY, IT SHOULD BE A ZERO BASE TYPE OF THEORY OF WHERE WHATEVER EXPENSE WE HAVE SHOULD BE OFFSET WITH THE REVENUE.
>> BUT IT MAY LOOK LIKE THE SHERIFF'S OVERSPENDING THIS BUDGET.
>> DEPENDING ON HOW WE GET THIS INCORPORATED.
MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE IT RIGHT INTO THE SHERIFF'S OPERATING AND BUILD THAT UP SO IT DOES NOT GIVE THAT PERCEPTION OR THAT SHOW THAT WE START THE BUDGET WITH [OVERLAPPING]
>> SORRY, MAKE HIM SWEAT [LAUGHTER].
>> BUT THIS IS A NEW RELATION AND SOMETHING NEW THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT FOR BUDGETING IN GL ACCOUNT NUMBER WISE TO GET PROGRAMMED IN.
SO OUR EXPECTATION IS TO HAVE THAT FINISHED BEFORE WE COME BEFORE YOU ON THE 28TH WITH POTENTIAL ADOPTION.
>> WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE ON THAT?
>> I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT ENDED WITH ABOUT $475,000 AS THE FULL 12 MONTH SERVICE, SO HIS EXPENSE SHOULD GO UP BY THAT AND WE SHOULD HAVE AN OFFSETTING REVENUE OF THE SAME.
>> SO NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? WE'LL UPDATE EVERYTHING WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED TODAY, REVIEW THE IMPACT OF THE MOU, UPDATE THE BUDGET, CIRCULATE IT WITH THE BOARD THROUGH EMAIL, AND HAVE IT PREPARED FOR ADOPTION AND RESOLUTION ON MAY 28, IF THAT ALIGNS WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD WAS THE FEE, WHEN WILL WE ADOPT THE FEE SCHEDULE?
>> AND WE ARE KEEPING ALL THE FEES THE SAME AS LAST YEAR?
>> AT THIS POINT, NO DEPARTMENT HAS REACHED OUT REQUESTING ANY FEE INCREASES, SO THE INTENTION WILL BE THAT [OVERLAPPING].
>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A CHANGE FOR MAJOR SITE PLAN REVIEW FEES TO COVER THESE SOLAR BECAUSE THE SOLAR PROJECTS ARE EATING UP A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND WE'RE NOT COVERING THOSE COSTS?
>> YES.THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BECAUSE IN THE PLANNING CODES DEPARTMENT, I THINK IT'S $400 FEE FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT.
>> LITTLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE PAYING 400 OR 1,000 ACRE SOLAR ARRAY THAT THEY HALFWAY SUBMIT PLANS AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY REVIEWING AND WE GET THE SAME $400, RIGHT?
>> YEAH. SO I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO
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CRYSTAL AND SEE WHAT THEIR STATUS IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY WERE [OVERLAPPING].>> I THINK WE NEED TO ADJUST IT FOR SOLAR OR SOMETHING.
WE'VE GOT TO COVER THESE COSTS MORE.
>> WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT. I'LL CIRCULATE THE CURRENT VERSION OF IT.
>> AND THEN HOW ABOUT THE MOBILE HOME FEE? SO WE'VE BEEN CHARGING $25 PER TRAILER FOREVER?
>> I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE LAST TIME WE CHANGED, I'D HAVE TO GO HISTORICALLY AND LOOK.
>> THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS THIS BOARD OF ED NUMBER IN LARGE PART IS DRIVEN BY ENROLLMENT.
SO WE'RE SEEING A MAJOR INCREASE IN OUR MANDATORY CONTRIBUTION TO THE BOARD OF ED BECAUSE OF ENROLLMENT.
WE ARE SEEING POPULATION GROWTH IN THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY LARGELY BECAUSE OF THE TWO TRAILER PARKS UP THERE AND THE POPULATION GROWTH THERE.
AND WE'RE FORCED TO CONTRIBUTE MORE OUT OF THE COUNTY TO COVER THE COST TO EDUCATE THESE CHILDREN THAT ARE LIVING IN THESE MOBILE HOMES UP THERE.
AND A SMALL INCREASE IN THAT FEE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THAT IF IT'S WORTH DISCUSSING OR IT'S $25 PER UNIT PER TRAILER IN EACH ONE OF THOSE [OVERLAPPING].
>> IN THE COMPLEX, SO IF YOU STANDALONE, YOU'RE NOT.
>> IF THERE'S 100, IT'S IT'S 2,500 BUCKS.
>> YES. AND I DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE PRINTED SO I WAS GOING TO PUT THAT IN RISK.
>> I MEAN, IT WOULD BE MINIMAL WHATEVER WE GOT OUT OF IT.
AND LOOK, YOU DO RISK? THE OTHER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE TWO OR THREE AROUND THE COUNTY SAYING, OH, WHY'D MINE GO UP, BUT HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN THE SAME?
>> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, HONESTLY, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AT THE COUNTY, WE HAVEN'T CHANGED IT, SO I'D HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE HISTORICAL FILES AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN PRIOR YEARS.
LET ME DO SOME RESEARCH INTO THAT AND I CAN PULL WHEN THE LAST TIME WE CHANGED IT, WHAT WE CHANGED IT FROM.
>> YEAH. I'M GOING TO DO THAT.
AND I'LL DO IT THIS AFTERNOON AND I'LL CIRCULATE IT WITH THE BOARD JUST SO YOU CAN SEE, AND I'LL PUT IN REFERENCE OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY COLLECT BASED OFF THAT AS WELL.
>> IT'S NOT A HILL I'M GOING TO DIE ON IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING AT.
>> WELL, OBVIOUSLY, THE COST WOULD BE PASSED ON TO THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE RENTING A TRAILER, A MOBILE HOME, SORRY, RENT MOBILE HOME IS GOING TO BE PASSED ON TO THEM ANYWAY.
>> WE'LL PULL THE INFO. WE'LL CIRCULATE IT WITH THE GROUP.
>> IS THAT ON EVERY LIKE IF I HAVE A THREE ACRE LOT SINGLE?
>> IT'S JUST ONE IN THE RENTAL?
>> JUST A COMPLEX WHERE YOU HAVE A TRAILER PARK ESPECIALLY.
IF YOU HAVE LIKE SAY, ONE ON A THREE ACRE LOT, YOU'RE NOT COMING IN AND PAYING THAT.
IT'S JUST THE PARKS THEMSELVES.
>> I HAD YOUR LOTS OF STIRRED UP BACK IN THE DAY.
>> WELL, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER SUBJECT THAT WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS AT SOME POINT.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THOSE TRAILERS.
IT'S WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.
THE SITES HAVE BEEN LEFT THERE IN ANTICIPATION OF NEW UNITS COMING IN BUT I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF THEY SHOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO IMPACT FEES.
>> I FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY PUTTING A BURDEN ON US NOW WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE IN THE STATE AND ON THE EASTERN SHORE.
NOW WITH THIS BLUEPRINT IMPLEMENTATION, IT'S DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTING OUR BUDGET BECAUSE THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE PARTS AND TONS OF KIDS THAT WE ARE NOW EDUCATING.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE. I SEE THE SCHOOL BUS.
>> IF YOU GO UP AND WATCH THEM LINED UP.
>> I SEE IT EVERY MORNING WHEN I GO TO MY OFFICE.
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>> I'M NOT FAULTING ANYONE FOR TRYING TO.
I LOVE TO SEE THE KIDS BUT THERE'S A COST. IT WOULD BE MINIMAL
>> NO. I GUESS I'LL JUST COME OUT AND SAY THIS.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, YOU HAVE A POPULATION GROWTH IN A CERTAIN AREA OF THE COUNTY, NORTH END THE COUNTY BUT THERE'S NO IMPACT FEES COMING FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING ELSE?.
IT'S GOT TO BE ALL KNOWS THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING THE HOUSING THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
BUT WE'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY IMPACT FEES FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION OR NEW DO ANYTHING?
>> THEY'RE FIXING THEM UP. IN SOME CASES, THEY'RE FIXING THE TRAILERS UP AND THEY'RE MOVING 12 PEOPLE UNTIL.
>> I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO THE SAME DISCUSSION WE HAVE ALL THE TIME ABOUT CODES.
YOU CAN'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A TRAILER WHERE YOU'VE GOT 12 PEOPLE.
>> WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? THAT'S THE QUESTION AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS END UP BACK INTO THAT.
>> IT'S UNENFORCEABLE. DO YOU WANT TO PASS UNENFORCEABLE REGULATION?
NICOLE, OUR TAX MANAGER JUST REACHED OUT TO ME.
THE LAST TIME THE MOBILE TAX, I'LL PROBABLY REPHRASE THIS, THE MOBILE TAX WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 1987, AND IT HAS NOT SEEN AN INCREASE SINCE 1987.
>> WE'LL PULL THE DOCUMENT ESTABLISHING THE TAX.
WE'LL CIRCULATE IT. THEY KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY PARKS WE HAVE, HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN IT.
WE'LL SHARE THAT JUST FOR KNOWLEDGE AND WHAT ANY POTENTIAL INCREASE WOULD IMPACT.
JUST AGAIN, IF IT'S AN EXERCISE WHERE EVERYBODY LEARNS IF THERE'S A CHOICE TO GO.
I WOULD JUST SAY IF WE COULD DISCUSS THIS ON THE 21ST, SO NEXT TUESDAY, WE CAN BRING THIS BACK UP, AND THAT WAY WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT ON OUR DOCUMENT FOR THE 28TH.
>> YOU CAN FIGURE OUT AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH MORE IT WOULD RAISE.
>> I'LL DO A SPREAD SHEET AND YOU DO $5.
THIS IS THE IMPACT AND VICE VERSA.
>> SOUNDS GOOD. SORRY TO SPRING THAT ONE ON YOU DOWN.
>> NO. THAT'S FINE. IT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
>> IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EATING ON ME A LITTLE BIT.
DON'T GET THE IDEA THAT I'M A TAX AND SPEND LIBERAL EITHER.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE WHOLE TIME.
YOU'VE BEEN SICK AT HOME AND JUST SITTING.
>> I HAD A LOT OF TIME TO THINK.
>> IF I JUST INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND.
I HEARD FROM SOMEONE WHO TEXTED ME THAT THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU TWO BECAUSE OF YOUR MICROPHONE.
>> EITHER THAT I YELL, THEY WON'T HEAR ME.
>> YOU'RE BIT CLOSER. THERE YOU GO.
>> FOR BUDGET, THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
I THINK WE HAVE OUR MARCHING ORDERS.
STACEY AND I WILL GO BACK WITH THAT AND CONTINUE ON.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? MR. FORD? THANK YOU.
NEXT AGENDA ITEM, DANIEL FOX, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR HOBBS ROAD SOLAR PROJECT.
IF YOU RECALL, PROBABLY BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, WE HAD A COMPANY OF THE NAME NEXSAN COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND PRESENT A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE SOLAR AT OUR CLOSED HOBBS ROAD LANDFILL.
[Daniel Fox, Deputy Administrator]
ESSENTIALLY, THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD OUT ABOUT 15 ACRES OF SOLAR ON THE HOBBS ROAD SITE, AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD RECEIVE A COUPLE BENEFITS.THE FIRST WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY A LAND LEASE PAYMENT OF $15,750 ANNUALLY.
THE OTHER WOULD BE TWO SAVINGS, SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY UTILITY BILLING, WHAT THEY'RE ESTIMATING OF ABOUT $15,400.
THEN SECONDLY, A SAVINGS TO OUR LOCAL BOE, WHO WOULD ALSO PARTNER IN THIS OF APPROXIMATELY $32,000 ANNUALLY.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THEY ARE ALSO NOT PROPOSING, BUT CALCULATING OUT THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX BILLING ON THIS 15 ACRES OF ROUGHLY $90,000.
THE LONGEST SHORT IS THEY CAME INTO THE PRESENTATION.
THEY HAD A COUPLE OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS THAT THEY SHARED WITH THE GROUP.
STAFF HAS HAD TIME TO GO THROUGH IT, REVIEW IT, CLEAN UP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY HAD PROPOSED IN THERE.
I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THE LANGUAGE AT LEAST.
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I THINK THIS IS JUST A CONVERSATION OF CONCEPT AND WHETHER THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN, CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS OPTION, TABLE IT TO A DIFFERENT TIME.>> IT'S A NET CHANGE OF $120,000 ROUGHLY ANNUALLY FOR THE COUNTY?
>> YES, SIR. THAT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER BREEDING IS REFERRING TO IS THE ORIGINAL POWERPOINT THAT WE'VE PRINTED OFF AND PROVIDED TO THE BOARD.
>> FIFTEEN THOUSAND, 15,000 AND 90000?
>> IS THAT 90,000 OF DEPRECIATE THEN?
>> IT DOES. ON THE SECOND PAGE, THEY'VE PUT IN SECOND TO LAST COLUMN, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
YOU CAN SEE IT STARTING AT THE 90 AND DEPRECIATES DOWN TO WHAT THEY'RE ESTIMATING $33,570.
>> AFTER THE 20 YEAR CYCLE, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S DEAD?
>> THERE WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER WE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO LEASE AND GO THROUGH THE SAME TYPE OF AGREEMENT, OR THEY WOULD START PROCESS OF DECOMMISSIONING AND REMOVAL OF PANELS.
WHEN THIS CONVERSATION STARTED, ONE OF THE BIG PLAYERS IN THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE MES AS WELL.
MES IS CURRENTLY DOING ALL OF OUR MONITORING AND COMPLIANCE AT THE LANDFILL.
THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS ON HOW THIS STRUCTURE WOULD ACTUALLY BE BUILT ON THE 15 ACRES, MAKING SURE IT'S NOT PENETRATING THE ACTUAL CELL THAT'S BEEN CAPPED.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BEHIND THE SCENES CONVERSATION BETWEEN NEXAMP AND MES AND SHARING OF ENGINEERED PLANS, BLUEPRINTS OF THROUGH HOLE BUILD OUT.
NEXAMP IS IN AGREEMENT AND UNDERSTANDING OF THAT AND HAS SHARED THAT THEY'VE DONE OTHER PROJECTS ON LANDFILLS JUST LIKE THIS AND ARE FAMILIAR WITH THESE TYPES OF RELATIONS AND WHAT MES WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO AND COMPLY FOR OUR PIECE OF THE LANDFILL.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS WELL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU HAVE TO SEE IT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A 15-ACRE FARM FIELD.
>> WOULD MES BE A PART OF THIS AGREEMENT?
>> WOULD MES BE A PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WERE IN THE AGREEMENT, BUT I BELIEVE THEY MONITOR FOR US.
THEY'RE NOT IN ACTUAL OWNERSHIP.
>> BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD WANT SOME TYPE OF VERIFICATION FROM THEM THAT THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT, THAT THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS.
>> CORRECT. YES. THROUGH EMAIL EXCHANGE OF PHONE CALL, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THIS, BUT I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, MAKING SURE THEY ARE FULLY IN AGREEMENT.
>> I'M LIKE COMMISSIONER BARTZ.
IN FACT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THERE BE SOME INNOVATION DONE WHERE SOLAR COULD PUT ON IN AREAS THAT ARE NOT USABLE, INSTEAD OF TAKING UP FARM LAND.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING I COULD SUPPORT.
>> NEXT STEPS FOR US WOULD EITHER BE ESSENTIALLY SIGNING THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT.
>> IT WAS QUITE THE AGREEMENT, WASN'T IT?
>> WE'RE COVERED, YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH IT AND FEEL.
I KNOW IT HAD TO TAKE SOME TIME.
>> I STARTED TO READ IT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO CLAIM OR GO OVER THAT.
>> THERE'S NO BATTERY STORAGE TIED WITH THIS, I ASSUME.
>> NEXAMP, WHEN I TALKED TO THEM LAST WEEK SO THEY'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME IN AND PROVIDE ANOTHER PRESENTATION, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE WAS ANY.
>> BUT THE NEXT STEP AGAIN WOULD BE SIGNING AN AGREEMENT OR ENTERING INTO THE AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO START THE PROCESS TO STRAW.
WE CAN PUT THIS AS A ACTION ITEM ON NEXT TUESDAY.
WE CAN VOTE TO APPROVE IT NOW. YOU WANT TO?
>> YOU CERTAINLY CAN, SO THIS WAS AN END OF
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THE INDIVIDUALIZED ITEM THAT'S ON FOR DISCUSSION.>> IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL?
>> LEGAL IS GOOD. FINANCE, THEY'RE GOOD.
>> REALLY, NO QUESTIONS THERE.
>> I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVED THE HOBBS ROAD SOLAR PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE AGREEMENT.
>> TO AUTHORIZE COMMISSIONER BREEDING TO SIGN, OR ARE YOU ALL THREE SIGNING? I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
>> AUTHORIZED SIGNATURE OF THE AGREE?
>> YES. OH, I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. YES, SIR.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> AYE. AYES HAVE IT. OFF THE LIST.
>> OFF THE LIST. SEE YOU AROUND. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
>> DOES THIS COUNT AGAINST OUR ACREAGE FOR SOLAR? HOW MANY WE GOT?
>> PERSONALLY, WE'D HAVE TO REVIEW THE LANGUAGE THAT WE SHOWED YOU IN THE 2,000 CAP.
>> PROBABLY WILL, I WOULD SAY.
>> I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW WE STRUCTURE THE RESOLUTION TO IDENTIFY THE 2,000. WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.
>> IT'S LIKE WOOD PREM. WE'LL JUST MAKE IT UP AS WE GO.
[Action Agenda:]
WHICH IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-014, FISCAL YEAR 2025 TAX RATES.>> THESE WERE THE RATES THAT WERE DETERMINED AT THE BUDGET HEARING.
THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT THESE WILL CHANGE AS FAR AS YOUR OFFICE IS CONCERNED, CORRECT?
>> CORRECT, YES. THESE ARE LOTS AND BUILDINGS.
>> RIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
>> THEN I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION 2024-014, ESTABLISHMENT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 TAX RATES.
BEFORE WE VOTE, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OUR PROPERTY TAX RATES BE ABLE TO GO DOWN.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEDGE OURSELVES AGAINST A PENDING RECESSION, SQUIRREL AWAY AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN.
WE DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL NEEDS IN BOTH BUILDINGS AND OFFICE SPACE, SCHOOLS, DETENTION CENTER, ROADS.
I THINK WE'VE MADE A LOT OF STRIDES IN ROADS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, BUT THERE'S MORE TO GO.
I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PUT AWAY AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND HOLDING THE TAX RATES THE SAME AS PAINFUL AS IT IS COMPARED TO OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
I THINK IS IMPORTANT AT THIS POINT, AND I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE WILL BE VERY FRUGAL WITH ANY SURPLUSES THAT WE HAVE AND AS RESPONSIBLE AS WE CAN.
WITH THAT, GO AHEAD AND HAVE A VOTE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024-014.
>> AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR WORK AGAIN.
>> THANK YOU. ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA?
[Consent Agenda:]
ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, CORRECTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER PORTER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?>> SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE I THINK I GOT AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ABOUT THE MOU BETWEEN EMS AND DENTON.
>> WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THAT NEXT YEAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH LIKE A COMPETITIVE GRAM INSTEAD OF JUST SPLITTING IT UP EQUALLY.
HAVE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES BEEN TOLD THAT OR?
WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM AND MARK BEFORE MARK WAS OUT ABOUT CHANGING THE PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE WAITING TO FINISH UP
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THIS YEAR'S BILLING AND THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH WDS.>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE PLENTY OF HEADS UP THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO SPLIT IT EQUALLY NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO DO A COMPETITIVE GRANT REQUEST.
TELL US WHAT YOU WANT, AND WE'LL SEE.
INSTEAD OF JUST HERE'S $5,000, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SPEND IT.
>> THERE'S A COUPLE SURPLUS VEHICLES ON THE LIST.
LOOKS LIKE THE MILEAGE IS HERE, 282,000 ON A 2017 FORD EXPLORER.
>> THAT MUST BE A TRAVEL TIME.
>> THAT MUST BE A POLICE INTERCEPTOR.
THEN 2009, FORD E250 VAN WAS ANIMAL CONTROLS.
IT HAS 137,000 MILES ON IT, BUT IT IS A 2009.
I DID ASK THE SHERIFF, THAT IS NOT THE ONE THAT PUBLIC WORKS RECENTLY UPDATED.
THEY DID SOME WORK ON A CONVERTED ONE.
THIS IS AN OLDER ONE. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA?
>> AYES HAVE IT. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.
[County Administrator’s Report]
>> JUST TWO THINGS TO GIVE YOU A SMALL UPDATE ON.
DANNY AND I MET WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER DASREAM APARTMENTS LAST WEEK AND THEY WILL BE TO TALK ABOUT THE TRANSFER OF THAT PROPERTY AND HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK.
THEY ARE MEETING WITH THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS LATER THIS MONTH, I THINK SHE SAID AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
THAT'S HOPEFULLY MOVING FORWARD.
THEN THE OTHER THING JUST TO REMIND YOU OR UPDATE YOU.
WE TOURED THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET AGAIN, ASHLAND INSURANCE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM AND I MENTIONED THAT LAST WEEK.
DANNY AND I MET WITH THEIR STAFF, SO DID A PUNCH LIST OF WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD NEED TO BE DONE FOR THEM TO MOVE IN.
IT'S PRETTY MINOR FLOORS, A COUPLE A WALL SO THAT THERE'S A CONFERENCE ROOM IN THERE AND THEN MAYBE A FRONT FLOATING WALL.
WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU'RE JUST NOT LOOKING AT THE BIG OPEN SPACE, BUT SOME MINOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WILL BE WALKING THROUGH WITH ROBIN AND KEVIN AT DPW HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK SO THAT WE CAN GET A COST ESTIMATE AND CONTINUE THAT MOVING SO THAT THE OFFICE OF LAW CAN GET OUT OF IT SPACE.
COUNTY COMMISSIONER OPEN DISCUSSION PERIOD. MR. BOWAS.
[County Commissioners Open Discussion Period]
>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY? MR. PORTER.
>> I WENT TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICE AT THE CALVARY CHURCH LAST WEEK.
IT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND HAD A PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT.
I HAD SOMEONE CONTACT ME YESTERDAY AND THEN I TALKED WITH DANNY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT.
THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF TITLE THEFT ON HOUSES.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GROWING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU HAVE SCAMMERS WHO COME IN AND THEY LOOK UP PROPERTIES DEEDS TO PROPERTIES, THEY FIND HOUSES THAT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EQUITY IN THEM AND THEY SIMPLY FORGE A DOCUMENT, THEY GET A PERSON SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, THEY FORGE A DOCUMENT.
CLAIM OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN START BORROWING MONEY BASED ON THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY.
THIS PERSON I DON'T THINK IT'S HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTY, BUT IT IS HAPPENING MORE FREQUENTLY.
WHEN I TALKED WITH DANNY, WE ARE APPARENTLY ARE THIRD-PARTY PEOPLE WHO WILL KEEP TRACK IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE.
>> THIS IS BECOMING MORE PREVALENT NATIONWIDE, AND I KNOW SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, ESPECIALLY IN DELAWARE WHERE I RESIDE AND HAVE NOTIFICATION ON THIS.
EMPLOY A THIRD-PARTY SOFTWARE THAT ESSENTIALLY NOTIFIES ANY HOMEOWNER WHEN A TITLE OR SOMETHING'S BEING RECORDED AGAINST YOUR PROPERTY.
IF YOU GET AN EMAIL OR PING, HEY, I'M NOT TRANSFERRING OR I'M NOT REALLY TAKING OUT
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ANY OTHER HOME EQUITY LOAN AGAINST THE PROPERTY, YOU WOULD KNOW.AS COMMISSIONER PORTER MENTIONED, WE HAVE NOT ENCOUNTERED ANY ISSUES OR HAVE HAD ANYTHING COME THROUGH OUR OFFICE OR HAVE HEARD ANYTHING THROUGH THE CLERK AS WELL.
BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IS GROWING IN NATURE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS PEOPLE BECOME MORE AND MORE CLEVER ON HOW TO STEAL.
>> WE SEE THE ADVERTISEMENTS ALL THE TIME ABOUT IT NOW.
>> I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS PERSON, BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND THEY WERE CONCERNED AND THEY HAD SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO.
I JUST DON'T KNOW, BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.
>> IF WE COULD GET A SUBSCRIPTION TO A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM, YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING.
>> YEAH, AT LEAST SEE HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST US.
I KNOW YOU CAN GET THIS TITLE LOCK COVERAGE.
>> IT COSTS THE HOMEOWNER, AND I THINK THIS PERSON WAS SAYING THAT, I GUESS THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN PICK UP ON HIM.
IT'S AMAZING WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT HOW EASY IT IS TO GO IN AND JUST LOOK THROUGH DEEDS AND SAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY I OWN THIS PROPERTY, AND I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND TAKE OUT A LOAN.
THE FIRST NOTIFICATION THE PERSON GETS IS THAT THEY OWE MONEY TO SOMEBODY.
THAT THE LOANS BEEN TAKEN OUT ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY OWE THE MONEY.
IF IT GETS BAD ENOUGH, THEN THEY START FORECLOSING.
IT'S SCARY, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO.
>> YEAH. WE'LL MAKE A NOTE AND STAFF AND I CAN MAKE A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS TO SEE WHAT A THIRD-PARTY OR TYPE SERVICES ARE OUT THERE AND WHAT IT MAY COST IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF DID WANT TO PAY WE COULD MAKE IT AVAILABLE, OR GIVE THE INFORMATION TO PEOPLE, MAYBE EVEN.
THAT WOULD MAYBE HELP SOME TOO.
>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE IS THE DAF BILL WAS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR, I THINK ON.
>> IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LAST THURSDAY.
>> THURSDAY. IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PICTURE OF THE SIGNING THAT SOME OF THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WERE IN HERE, EXPRESSING OPPOSITION TO THAT BILL, ENDED UP IN THE PICTURE GRINNING, STANDING THERE BEHIND THE GOVERNOR.
THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW THINGS WORK, BUT IT WAS DISAPPOINTING TO ME ACTUALLY.
WE BROUGHT THIS TO ATTENTION, WE WENT OVER, TESTIFIED, WHO ENDS UP OVER THERE WITH A BIG SMILE ON THEIR FACE, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO IN THE BEGINNING OPPOSED IT.
NOT THAT I WON'T CARE ABOUT GETTING MY PICTURE TAKEN, I JUST THINK IT'S IRONIC.
THAT'S THE HYPOCRISY SOMETIMES THAT YOU LOOK AT OVER THERE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I GOT.
WE HAVE A CALL SCHEDULED ON THURSDAY AT 1:30 TO TALK ABOUT FURTHER IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BILL.
I WAS DOWN LAST WEEK WITH STILL UNKNOWN FOR SURE ILLNESS, BUT IT DID HAVE ME DOWN.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR FILLING IN ON BOTH OF THOSE MEETINGS, GENTLEMEN.
SORRY TO LEAVE YOU HANGING LIKE THAT, BUT REST ASSURED I WAS WATCHING.
OBVIOUSLY, I WAS THINKING ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF.
I HAVE BIG PLAYOFF GAME THIS AFTERNOON AT COLONEL AT THREE O'CLOCK AGAINST ST. MICHAEL'S.
IT SHOULD BE A GOOD 1A BASEBALL GAME TO COME OUT AND WATCH IF YOU HAVE TIME.
MOST LIKELY, THE WINNER OF THIS GAME WILL AT LEAST END UP IN THE FINAL FOUR IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND 1A HIGH SCHOOL TOURNAMENT.
TWO RIVAL CLUBS, ST. MICHAEL'S AND COLONEL, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A HOTTER RIVALRY PROBABLY IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND.
GOOD LUCK, COLONEL. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH.
4-H PARK ROAD, I GOT A CALL YESTERDAY FROM A FAIR BOARD MEMBER.
I THINK IT WAS BRYAN VANCE, ASKING ABOUT FIXING UP THE ROAD THROUGH THE CAMPGROUND AREA AT THE 4-H PARK PARK.
I GUESS ROBIN HAD BEEN OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT.
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I THINK BETWEEN ROBIN AND PARKS AND RECREATION, I THINK JAMIE SAID TO JACK MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE WORK TOO.WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT OUT OF CONTINGENCY, DANNY.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW. YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THAT?
>> THEY'LL GET A GAME PLAN TOGETHER AND GET THAT FIXED UP BEFORE FAIR.
I FEEL LIKE I HAD SOMEBODY ELSE CALL ME ABOUT SOMETHING, BUT IT JUST ESCAPES ME NOW.
WE WILL NOW HAVE OUR CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
[Public Comment]
IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? MR. BAKER?>> YES. DON'T BE EXCITED BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN I DO.
YOU HIT MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IS THE ROADS IN CAROLINE COUNTY.
IT'S NICE THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE DIRT ROADS, BUT I THINK THAT SOMEBODY SHOULD DO A STUDY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON THE DIRT ROADS.
BAKER ROAD HAS BEEN A DIRT ROAD EVER SINCE I WAS A LITTLE FELLOW.
THAT WAS A LONG WHILE AGO, THEY PAVED A LARGE PART OF DIRT ROAD OR THEY DIDN'T PAVED.
ON THE UNPAVED SECTION, THERE'S ONLY THREE RESIDENCES AND ONE OF THOSE, I DON'T THINK, IS USED VERY MUCH.
BUT TRAFFIC IS ONLY THERE WHEN THEY DETOUR PEOPLE OFF BURRSVILLE ROAD TO COME THROUGH DOWN BAKER ROAD.
THAT SHOULDN'T BE A REAL PRIORITY.
SOME OF THE PRIORITIES I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE IS SOME OF THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE THAT FELL VICTIM TO LAST YEAR'S FIASCOS ON THE ROAD.
I WROTE DOWN A COUPLE OF THINGS, 4-H ROAD, FOR INSTANCE.
I KNOW IT IS A DISASTER. [OVERLAPPING]
A HOT PATCHED, HERE AND THERE.
>> THE OTHER THING, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT.
>> I GREW UP ON FOY ROAD AND I'M DOWN A LOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF WALMART TRAFFIC THAT YOU USE EVERY WAY.
>> THERE'S DUMP TRUCKS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> [INAUDIBLE] HOLES ON THAT ROAD, WHICH A LOT OF THE DAMAGE DONE TO IT IS PROBABLY BY THE TRUCKS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> AS THE LONG AS THE JOB I WAS GOING TO MENTION WAS I KNOW THERE'S TRIPLE JURISDICTION.
STATE ROADS GOT DIRT THINGS THROUGH TOWN HERE, AND THE TOWNS GOT ROADS THROUGH THE COUNTY.
I'VE TALKED TO THE TOWN ABOUT SOME OF THE TOWN ROADS.
SCOTT GETCHELL AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONFERENCES.
THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, BUT THEY NEED SOMEBODY. THAT'S ONE OF THE ROADS.
THE NORTH END OF THE KNIFE BOX WHERE THEY DID THAT SHOULDER STAND.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THERE.
>> KNIFE BOX IS GETTING READY TO BE PAVE FROM THE BRANCH WHERE WE STOPPED WITH THE PATCHING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BRIDGE NEAR WHAT IS THAT ROAD? IS IT ELLWANGER?
>> WE'RE GOING TO FALL WITH PAVE IT LIKE WE DID. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT JUST PAVES OVER WHITES LANE BUT THEY DID A TERRIBLE JOB ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ALL THESE THINGS DONE, BUT IT'S BIG BIG BUMP THERE.
WE DID A SURVEY OF TRAFFIC, WE DID A SURVEY OF SCHOOL BUSES, HOW MANY SCHOOL BUSES WERE ON THE ROADS.
>> THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE ROADS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT BAKER ROAD IS DEAR TO MY HEART. [LAUGHTER]
>> WELL, IT'S NOT ON THE LIST OF [INAUDIBLE].
IT ONLY HAVE THREE HOUSES ON IT.
[LAUGHTER] WE WERE JUST GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THEM UP AND MAINTENANCE.
>> RIGHT. BUT IF THERE'S SPARE OF MONEY, I THINK WE OUGHT TO DIVERT SOME OF IT TO REPAIRING SOME OF THESE ROADS THAT HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN IN BAD SHAPE AND HAD PIECEMEAL PATCHWORK DOES ON THEM.
THE OTHER THING THAT CAME TO MY ATTENTION WAS WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT MOBILE HOME PARKS.
THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE NOTICED DRIVING THROUGH THE COUNTY.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY ARE TAKING RECREATIONAL TRAILERS, ALL KINDS OF TRAILERS AND THEY'RE MAKING THEIR OWN LITTLE MOBILE HOME PARK WITH THREE OR FOUR ON THERE.
I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION ANY SPECIFIC LOCATION, BUT I'M SURE SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ZONING SHOULD DO THAT OR WHO, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET OUT BECAUSE IT'S GETTING TO BE PREVALENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
>> THAT'S ALL I SHOULD TELL YOU. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU'RE HITTING THINGS THAT WE'RE OLD.
>> WELL, I KNOW ROBIN IS NEW ON THE JOB AND I KNOW HE'S GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB, BUT WE'VE HAD A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH PUBLIC WORK.
NOT WITH THE WORKERS, BUT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR A WHILE.
I JUST WANT TO, AND I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO.
THE MEMORIAL DAY PARADE THAT THE AMERICAN LEGION IS SPONSORED ON THE 24TH OF MAY.
IT STARTS AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING IN THE ASSEMBLY AREAS AT ST. LUKE'S CHURCH.
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I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY OR ANY DONATION.IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, WE'D BE GLAD TO HAVE YOU MARCH OR RIDE OR DO WHATEVER.
BERNIE LISWELL IS THE CONTACT POINT THROUGH THE AMERICAN LEGION FOR THAT.
>> I KNOW BERNIE WELL. I DEAL WITH THEM FOR AMERICAN RESERVATION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> OF COURSE, THAT DAY IS ELECTION DAY AND IT'S A BUSY WEEK POLITICALLY.
THE STATE MEETING IS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
THAT'S ABOUT IT. REST OF IT WAS BOARD ELECTION STUFF, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.
[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I APPRECIATE THE JOB YOU-ALL ARE DOING.
>> I KNOW YOU SEE ME SITTING HERE EVERY WEEK AND HOLDING IT BACK.
>> WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY AT IT, BUT YOUR LIST IS VERY MUCH IN TUNE WITH OUR LIST.
>> ANYONE ELSE? PUBLIC COMMENT? NONE BEING SEEN, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
[Meeting Adjourns]
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
>> AYE. AYES ARE SAID.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.