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WE HAVE THE VFW EXPANSION LICENSE PREMISE.
[VFW- Expansion of the licensed premise]
EVERYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK.STAND UP. I'LL HAVE YOU, I'LL HAVE TO DO THE OATH.
EVERYBODY RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE IN THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
EACH ONE OF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
ERIC PETERSON, 5201 SMITHVILLE ROAD, FEDERALSBURG, MARYLAND.
THANK YOU. RONALD JAMES, 5620 [INAUDIBLE] ROAD, GALESTOWN, MARYLAND.
THANK YOU. STEVE BURROWS, 4517 SMITHVILLE ROAD, FEDERALSBURG, MARYLAND.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NOW YOU MAY BE SEATED.
CAN I START FIRST? DO YOU. YES.
THEY ARE DOING A BIKE SHOW JUNE 8TH, I BELIEVE.
CORRECT, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THEIR LICENSE PREMISE TO ALLOW THE YARD AND THE PAVILION. PAVILION AND THEY'VE JUST UPGRADED SOME MONUMENTS.
THEY WERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND AND LOOK AT.
SO THEY'RE HERE TO EXPAND THEIR PREMISE.
IS THIS A TEMPORARY EXPANSION OR IS IT TO EXPAND THE PREMISE? EXPAND THE PREMISE.
[INAUDIBLE] EXPAND THE PREMISE? I TRIED TO HAVE HAVE REASONS BEHIND THAT, BUT I COULD LAY OUT.
OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD WITH THAT? OR DO YOU WANT TO HEAR WHAT MR. JAMES HAS TO SAY? I'LL LET HIM GO.
WE THINK SOMEONE SAID THAT WE WERE OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA ON EASTER.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A PAVILION WHICH WAS ON THE OLD PERIMETER.
IT'S ALL THE SAME PHYSICAL ADDRESS THAT 2630 VETERANS DRIVE.
THE ONLY THING I COULD SEE THAT WE ARE REMISS ON.
WELL, WE GOT TOLD THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE A FOUR KEG COOLER.
IS THAT TRUE OR NOT? IT'S A BEER WAGON, BEER TRUCK? IT'S JUST A FOUR KEG COOLER.
SO I CAN EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
IF THEY'VE WANTED TO DO AN OUTSIDE BAR OR BEER TRUCK OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, THEY HAVE COME TO THE BOARD TO ASK TO BE ABLE TO SERVE OUTSIDE, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE BOARD IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN AS TO ALLOW NOT ONLY TO CONSUME BEVERAGES OUTSIDE, BUT TO BE ABLE TO ALSO SELL THEM OUTSIDE.
YOU COULD. IS THAT PART OF THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT? BECAUSE WE I CAN SEE WE ARE REMISS IN GETTING SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
RIGHT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE AMERICAN LEGION, THEY DO CAR SHOWS, TURKEY SHOOTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AS PART OF THE BOARD'S APPROVAL FOR THEIR OUTDOOR LICENSE PREMISE AREA, THEY HAVE GRANTED THEM APPROVAL TO USE A SPECIFIED AREA FOR THOSE SPECIFIC EVENTS AND WHAT THE TERMS OF THOSE EVENTS ARE, SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THEM EITHER MONTHLY OR ANNUALLY, AND THEIR ONLY REQUIREMENT IS TO NOTIFY THE BOARD OFFICE OF THE DATES OF THE EVENTS.
THEY DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME IN EACH TIME TO GET APPROVAL SEPARATELY FOR THOSE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE AN OUTSIDE BAR AREA FOR THAT.
THAT'S A COLOR MAP. IT HAS IT SHOWS KIND OF THE ENTIRE THING THAT WE OWN WITH THE WOODS, THE BACK FIELD THAT SOMETIMES IS FARMED AND SOMETIMES IS JUST LEFT TO BE BACK FIELD, AND THEN THERE'S A MAINTAINED AREA THAT'S CLEAR ON THE COLOR PICTURE THERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT'S THAT BRIGHT GREEN KIND OF MAYBE LOOKS A LITTLE BIGGER THAN IT IS, BUT IT'S PROBABLY
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AROUND AN ACRE OR LESS.SO PROBABLY THREE QUARTER ACRE.
YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT ON THE PICTURE.
ACTUALLY, IF YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE WHERE IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER UP, IT'S AN OLD PICTURE.
SO WE'VE DONE A LOT SINCE THEN, BUT THE TO THE LEFT, WE NOW HAVE A NAVY ANCHOR THAT'S OUT THERE FROM A SHIP TO THE RIGHT, WE HAVE A BRAND NEW SIGN THAT WE JUST ERECTED. THAT'S A WELCOME SIGN, AND IT HAS A QUOTE ABOUT FREEDOM AND STUFF ON THE BACK, AND THEN NEXT TO THAT WE GOT A BRAND NEW FLAGPOLE ERECTED.
THEN WE HAVE A WORLD WAR TWO MONUMENT TO ALL THE GUYS THAT FOUGHT AND DIED IN WORLD WAR TWO AND CAROLINE COUNTY, AND THEN WE HAVE A TROOP CARRIER AND THEN IN THE WORKS WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN, YOU HAVE TO PUT IN A SPECIAL REQUEST FOR DECOMMISSIONED EQUIPMENT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO COME ACROSS LIKE AN ARTILLERY GUN THAT'S DECOMMISSIONED, OR ALSO MAYBE A COUPLE CIVIL WAR CANNONS AND STUFF, AND THE GOAL IS TO KIND OF HAVE A RING OF MONUMENTS AROUND THE PAVEMENT ON THE OUTER EDGE.
SO WHEN PEOPLE COME UP, THEY CAN LEARN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BATTLE HISTORY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THEN WE HAVE STORAGE SHEDS ON THE RIGHT.
TO THE LEFT OF THE STORAGE SHEDS ARE JUST BELOW IT ON THIS PICTURE.
YEP. DO YOU WANT TO GO POINT IT OUT? ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU COME UP THE HILL HERE.
THIS IS STORAGE SHEDS OVER HERE.
THIS IS A COOK SHACK WHERE ON EVERY SATURDAY WE DO BURGERS AND WE DO MORE THAN JUST SATURDAY BURGERS, BUT WE DO BURGERS EVERY SATURDAY, AND PEOPLE ARE WALKING BACK AND FORTH TO PLACE THEIR ORDERS AND WHATNOT, AND THEN WE HAVE A VERY LARGE PAVILION HERE, AND THEN WE HAVE A BRAND NEW FIRE PIT.
THIS IS AN OLD ONE. WE HAVE A BRAND NEW FIRE PIT ABOUT OUT HERE.
THAT'S ALL WHITE CONCRETE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOME PROJECTION MOVIES ON THE BACK AND BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE LAY BLANKETS AND STUFF OUT HERE AND WATCH MOVIES, LIKE JUST FUNNY MOVIES, WHATEVER.
MAYBE MIGHT EVEN THROW SOME KIDS MOVIES IN THERE IF WE'RE DOING A FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND SO BASICALLY WHAT WE GOT GOING ON IS THE REASON WE GOT THE WRAP AROUND THIS WHOLE THING IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENCOMPASS NOT THE WHOLE 35 ACRES, BUT JUST THIS SMALL PARCEL THAT WE MAINTAIN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE OUTDOOR EVENTS IN THE PAVILION, WHICH ALSO IS STOCKED WITH A BAR OUT THERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY OUTDOOR BAR IS RIGHT THERE.
NOW, IT'S NOT OPEN ON A NIGHTLY BASIS.
ONLY IF WE'RE DOING LIKE A SUMMER EVENT OUT THERE.
IF YOU'RE CATCHING SHADE, YOU WANT TO BE OUTSIDE OR YOU GET YOUR BURGER FROM THE COOK SHACK AND YOU DON'T WANT TO GO INSIDE ON THE SUMMER DAY AND YOU WANT TO EAT OUT HERE, WE WANT IT TO BE OKAY THAT THEY CAN ENJOY A BEVERAGE OUT THERE RESPONSIBLY.
NOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A NO ALCOHOL ZONE IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE, AND WE'VE ALREADY ORDERED METAL SIGNS THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] PRINTS THAT ARE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SAY NO ALCOHOL BEYOND THIS POINT AND PUT THEM RIGHT BEHIND THE MONUMENTS SO IT'LL BE CLEARLY MARKED, AND THEN MAYBE OVER HERE BY THE FIRE PIT WHERE THEY KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, NO ALCOHOL BEYOND THIS POINT, AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLEARLY STATED.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE GIST OF THE LAYOUT OF THE VFW, AND WHILE WE WANT TO USE IT, BUT I WOULD HATE FOR PEOPLE TO NOT BE ABLE TO WALK OUT AND LOOK AT A MONUMENT ABOUT WORLD WAR TWO OR, OR LOOK FOR THEIR GRANDDAD THAT'S ON A SIGN OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, AND OR SIT BY A FIRE PIT AND FEEL LIKE YOU CAN'T ENJOY A BEVERAGE BY, BY A BONFIRE PIT, AND I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO EMAIL YOU EVERY TIME WE'RE HAVING A BONFIRE, YOU KNOW? SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE GO AHEAD WITH THAT RED LINE AND MAKE THAT THE PERMANENT ALCOHOL.
SO THERE AND KNOWING THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT THE SIGNS UP.
OBVIOUSLY, BY ENCOMPASSING THAT SQUARE PARKING LOT, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO DRIVE IN SIGNS AND DO THAT AND MAKE IT A PERMANENT THING WHERE PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO SHRINKING IT DOWN TO THE CONCRETE, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I TALKED YOU ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.
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I MEAN, I WORKED 25 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR CAROLINE COUNTY, 20 OF THAT UNDERCOVER, A DRUG NARCOTICS UNIT AND CANINE UNIT, AND JUST RECENTLY RETIRED AND STARTED MY OWN DISASTER RELIEF COMPANY, AND THE LAST THING I'D WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, IS UPSET THE LIQUOR BOARD OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS GOT A JOB TO DO.
YOU WANT TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE? I UNDERSTAND THE INSPECTOR'S JOB IS TO CHECK EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY THAT, YOU KNOW, SERVES ALCOHOL, AND WE COMPLETELY RESPECT THAT, AND BY DOING THIS, WE WANT TO. THIS WILL BE EASIER FOR US TO STAY IN LINE, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THAT PLAN NOW.
NOW, JUST I SEE YOU HAVE A PLAN TO WITH A SMALLER PREMISE AREA.
YEAH, AND I ASSUME THAT MAYBE YOU DID THAT JUST IN CASE PLAN ONE.
YES, SIR. DIDN'T GO THE WAY THAT YOU WERE HOPING.
YES, SIR, AND PLAN ONE IS HONESTLY, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
BECAUSE YOU GOT THE VOLLEYBALL COURT, YOU GOT THE FIRE PIT, YOU GOT THE SKEET SHOOTING AREA, YOU GOT ALL THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST PLAN ONE IS IS KIND OF A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT WE PROBABLY HAD LAST TIME IN THE RECORD, BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO CUT OUT ONE OF THE HANGOUT AREAS, ESPECIALLY OUTDOOR AREAS.
I MEAN, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE PEOPLE ENJOY THE WHOLE PROPERTY, AND WHEN WE DO GET THE CIVIL WORK IN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO WALK OUT AND LOOK AT IT, AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE BACK HERE.
IF YOU PUT THAT BIG MAP UP REAL QUICK.
SO OUR OLD MAP, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO INCLUDE THIS FOR SURE IN THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GO AROUND HERE, IT DIDN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE DUMPSTER RIGHT HERE, WHICH OUR DUMPSTER IS RIGHT HERE.
NOT TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE OTHER TRASH CANS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S LIKE AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW? AND THEN IF WE'RE DOING THE MOVIES ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND PEOPLE GOT SOME BLANKETS OUT RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY A BEVERAGE WHEN WE DO THAT, BUT IF WE JUST DO THE PARKING LOT ALONE, THEN YOU CAN'T REALLY DO THAT, AND LIKE I SAID, THIS AREA LOOKS KIND OF BIG ON A MAP, BUT IT'S REALLY WHEN WE GET UP THERE, IT'S IT'S NOT NOT THAT BIG WHEN YOU GET UP THERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL, AND THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIEST FOR THE INSPECTOR, EASIEST FOR US TO MAINTAIN AND TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE SIGNAGE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP US WHERE WE HAVE ZERO VIOLATIONS.
HEY, BETH, COULD YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE SAME ONE LIKE THAT, BUT THE ONE THAT SAYS PLAN, TOO? PLEASE.
KEEP GOING BECAUSE THERE'S A BIGGER ONE, I THINK.
SO ON PLAN TWO, OBVIOUSLY THE VOLLEYBALL AREA, THE MOVIE, THE AREA THAT YOU'RE HOPING FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO LAY OUT AND WATCH MOVIES AND STUFF WON'T BE INCLUDED OR THE MONUMENTS EITHER, OR THE MONUMENT.
HOW ABOUT THE NEW FIRE PIT AREA? IS THAT IN PART OF THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID THE ONE THAT'S SHOWN ON THERE IS NOT THERE ANY.
YEAH, IT'S KIND OF PROBABLY RIGHT ON THAT LINE.
OKAY. IT'S IT WAS AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT HERE ON THE DOWNSIDE ABOUT WHERE THE RED LINE IS TO THE RIGHT, A LITTLE BIT CENTERED ON THE PAVILION. SO YOU'VE GOT WOODS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NORTH AND SOUTH, BUT YOU'VE GOT WOODS ON THE.
DOWN ON THE RIGHT THERE'S WOODS.
WELL I GUESS UP TO THE RIGHT NOW.
SO THE NEW FIRE PIT IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
OKAY. SO WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER CORNERS? I MEAN, CAN PEOPLE WALK ACROSS THAT OR IS THAT ACTUALLY IN GROWING UP AND VEGETATION BEHIND IT BEHIND THE RED LINE.
THAT IS A IF YOU WELL I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, MA'AM, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE OVERVIEW, THE FIRST OVERVIEW.
YEP. SO THIS IS ALL WOODS, AND THEN.
YEAH [INAUDIBLE] LET ME GET MY BEARINGS NOW.
DOWN TO THE RIGHT, THE WHOLE BOTTOM.
IT'S SO HARD WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE.
OKAY. SO THIS YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER HERE.
THAT'S ABOUT 15 ACRES OF FARM FIELD OKAY.
SO LIKE IN ABOUT A MONTH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WATERMELONS PLANTED OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW WE'VE DONE SOYBEAN IN THE PAST.
SOMETIMES WE JUST LET TALL GRASS GROW, SO THE DEER HAVE A PLACE TO LAY DOWN AND EAT AND WHATEVER, AND THEN THIS IS ALL WOODS HERE, AND THEN THIS IS ALL WOODS THAT COMES DOWN TO A NARROW, NARROW ENTRANCE DOWN HERE WHICH IS NOT USED.
IT'S ONLY USED WITH WE HAVE A HUGE EVENT LIKE WE GOT COMING UP, LIKE THE BIKE SHOW.
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DUE TO AN EVENT THERE, EASTER BUNNY SHOOT, WHICH WAS A TURKEY SHOOT THAT I WAS AWARE I HAVE WRITTEN THEM A VERBAL WARNING LETTER, WRITTEN WARNING LETTER, ACTUALLY. DUE TO THE VFW, GOOD STANDING, ALL THE GOOD THAT THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY ILL WILL INVOLVED IN THAT.AT THE SAME TIME, THEY ADVERTISED A BIKE EVENT.
WE DISCUSSED THIS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I TOLD THEM THIS IS WHAT THEIR OLD PLAN WAS, WHICH WAS SHOWN.
I SAID, BUT IT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED TO ACTUALLY SERVE ALCOHOL OUT THERE.
WHICH ALSO CONTRADICTS AS FAR AS KEEPING TRACK OF RECORDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE A GOOD RECORD.
THERE'S ALSO THE CHANCE OF THEY MAKE THESE INTO WEDDING EVENTS.
THEY'VE GOT TO BE ON TOP OF IT IF IT'S GOING TO BE WEDDING EVENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I HAVE IT COMPLETELY UP TO THE BOARD.
I'VE NOT HAD TOO MANY ISSUES WITH THE VFW, SO I THINK THE.
WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF, HE WAS BRINGING UP WEDDINGS.
SO SOMETIMES THEY WILL USE LIKE ALL THOSE AREAS, AND THEN THEY'LL COME IN AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE EVENT, LIKE IN THE HALL, AND YOU KNOW, BUT AND THEN THE OLD MAP THAT WE HAD, I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION THAT WAS PROBABLY BEFORE ALL YOU ALL WERE ON THE BOARD, BUT WHERE YOU COULD SEE IT HAD LIKE A RED WITH A BLACK OUTLINE AROUND IT, AND I THINK ORIGINALLY YOU GUYS WERE GIVEN A COPY OF THAT, BUT IT WAS A BLACK AND WHITE COPY, SO IT KIND OF MIXED THE RED AND THE BLACK TOGETHER, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON OUR PART OR YOUR PART, WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO AND WHAT YOU THOUGHT WE COULD DO.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, TO TRY TO CLARIFY IT ONCE AND FOR ALL AND GET A NICE PERIMETER.
SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE HE SAID, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NO ILL WILL BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IN THE RED AROUND THAT OLD ONE THAT WE COULD WALK AROUND AND DRINK AND SERVE AND DO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WERE UNAWARE OF THAT.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO FIX IT TODAY.
CAN YOU SCROLL BACK UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ON HERE.
YEAH. WHICH ONE? THAT OLD PLAN.
YEAH. SO IF I WENT BACK AND CHECKED THE RECORDS OF WHEN THE BOARD ACTUALLY HAD ASKED ALL LICENSE HOLDERS ONE YEAR RENEWAL TO FULLY SUPPLY AND UPDATED WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR LICENSE PREMISE, AND BACK THEN THE DISCUSSION WAS THE BUILDING AND THE OUTDOOR PAVILION WAS MAINLY THAT KIND OF AREA, JUST TO ALLOW PATRONS TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO THE PAVILION, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY TO DO OTHER OUTDOOR EVENTS.
I MEAN, I THINK THE NATURAL BOUNDARY OF THE AREA THEY MAINTAIN MAKES IT EASIER TO IDENTIFY FOR ANYONE OUT THERE WHERE THE BOUNDARY IS. SO IF YOU'RE KIND OF PULLING IT IN AND TRYING TO MAKE A BOUNDARY LESS RESTRICTIVE GIVEN THE LOCATION OF IT, IS ALL THE BOARD BEEN THERE, KNOW THE AREA WHERE IT'S AT, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY SECLUDED.
IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO THE TOWN.
THERE'S NO OTHER RESIDENCES, YOU KNOW, IN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY THAT IT SITS OFF OF THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE RESIDENCES ACROSS THE STREET, BUT IT'S STILL SITS BACK FROM THE ROAD, AND I THINK USING THAT NATURAL MAINTAINED BOUNDARY, WHICH ALSO DOES ALLOW THEM TO USE MORE OF THE LAWN AREA FOR MOVIE NIGHTS OR FIRE PIT OR THE MONUMENTS, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT MAKES IT EASIER TO IDENTIFY, I THINK AND ON THIS OLD PLAN, THAT ONE BUILDING IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE THING THAT'S A CONCERN IS WITH THE NEW PLAN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ENCOMPASSING ALL THE PARKING, AND I KNOW THAT BEFORE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH I MEAN, DO YOU SEE THAT BEING A PROBLEM? I MEAN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH USING THE BUT I JUST YOU SEE IT BEING A PROBLEM WITH FROM MY EXPERIENCE PARKING FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PARKING THERE.
PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY SAID IS THAT THEY HAVE AN EVENT.
I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY 20 CARS USUALLY, BUT USUALLY ANY EVENT, THEY HAVE ALL OF THIS LOADED WITH CARS LIKE THEIR THANKSGIVING TURKEY SHOOT IS INSANE. THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE.
YEAH. WHAT WOULD YOU GET UP AND DOWN THE LANE ON THE SIDE AND YEAH, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF PARKING OUT THERE USUALLY FOR THOSE EVENTS, YOU KNOW YOU ARE USING THAT GRASSED AREA. SO I GUESS WE'RE AT TWO, WE'RE AT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
FIRST THING IS WE GOT TO GET A WE GOT TO ATTACK THE OUT THE SELLING OUTSIDE.
THE BEING ABLE TO SELL OUTSIDE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH THE BOUNDARY.
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LETTER FOR WHAT HAS ALREADY TRANSPIRED, BUT THAT'S WHAT LED TO THIS.WE'RE ALL KIND OF WELL, MOST OF US ARE PRETTY NEW TO THE VFW, AND WE'VE GONE OFF A LOT OF THINGS OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PAST AND WE'RE TRYING TO EXPERIENCE FOR OURSELVES, AND WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, SEND OUR BEST INTEREST AS THE NEW LEADERSHIP, THE NEW GUYS COMING IN THAT WILL BE A PART OF THIS VFW TO GROW IT, TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THOSE THAT FOLLOW US, IS TO COME AND TRY TO CLARIFY SO WE KNOW FOR SURE, AND WE KNOW HOW TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL. SO THIS IS DEFINITELY A BIG THING FOR US, AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH ME SINCE THEN, FREQUENTLY.
I APPLAUD THEM ON THAT. I KNOW, AND I THINK, TOO, WHAT WE KNOW AND ARE AWARE OF ACROSS MARYLAND PROBABLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IT'S INCREASINGLY BECOMING HARD FOR THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS TO RETAIN MEMBERSHIP, TO RECRUIT AND BEING ABLE TO OFFER EVENTS AND OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY CAN HELP WITH THAT.
THERE'S NOT MANY OF US YOUNG GUYS LEFT AND TO WHAT SHE WAS SAYING, THAT'S LIKE I JUST YOU KNOW, WE GIVE AND WHAT THE OTHER INSPECTOR WERE SAYING IS JUST BASICALLY WE GIVE AWAY ALMOST 100 TO $150,000 A YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE YEAR, WHETHER IT'S A GOOD YEAR OR A BAD YEAR OR WHATEVER BUT WE DO A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, ALL THE YOUTH FOOTBALL, YOUTH BASEBALL, THE WE'RE SENDING A GIRL FROM CPTC DOWN TO A COMPETITION IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA FOR THE CABINETS, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING THESE KIND OF EVENTS HELP SPONSOR THAT AND BRING IN THE MONEY WHERE WE CAN DO THAT GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE TRY TO DO EASTER EGG HUNTS FOR THE KIDS ON THE FRONT LAWN ON THAT BIG HILL THAT GOES DOWN.
WE'VE HAD SLIP AND SLIDES FOR THE KIDS.
YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF THE YOUTH FOOTBALL AND STUFF LIKE THAT WILL COME UP AND HAVE THEIR BANQUETS IN OUR HALL, AND WE'LL LET THEM USE THE BANQUET FOR FREE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE REALLY TRY TO REACH OUT AND DO WHAT WE CAN DO.
WE APPRECIATE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS COUNTY THAT HELP COUNTY RESIDENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS DO THINGS, AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE STRUGGLE TO KEEP MEMBERSHIP UP TO THE DOORS OPEN.
JUST I MEAN, THAT'S WHY, LIKE, DENTON LEGION HAS OPENED IT UP.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER NECESSARILY TO COME IN.
TO BE HONEST, I'M GLAD I DID IT NOW, BUT AND THE VFW IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
YEAH, BUT WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE GUESTS AND WE HAVE CERTAIN PUBLIC EVENTS.
SO SAY WE HAVE A CORNHOLE WEEK EVERY WEDNESDAY OR A CORNHOLE NIGHT EVERY WEDNESDAY.
YOU KNOW, DURING THE HOURS OF CORNHOLE AND ALL THAT THE PUBLIC CAN COME IN AND THEN WHEN IT'S OVER, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A GUEST OF SOMEBODY IN THERE AND SIGN THE BOOK AND STAY IN, YOU KNOW.
SO AND THE INSPECTOR KNOWS WHEN HE COMES IN, THERE'S A BOOK RIGHT THERE ON THE RIGHT, AND THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE SIGN IN, AND THOSE WOULD BE PEOPLE THAT MAYBE ARE VETERANS, BUT THEY WEREN'T A VETERAN OF A FOREIGN WAR IN THEIR GUEST.
OR MAYBE IT'S JUST SOMEBODY FROM IN TOWN WANTS TO HAVE A BURGER ON BURGER DAY.
[INAUDIBLE] MAIN BIG BUILDING IS 150 YEARS OLD.
NO, YOU GO AHEAD. I WOULD SUGGEST TACKLE IT LIKE THE CHAIRMAN SAID IN TWO PARTS.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS THE BOUNDARY FOR PURPOSES OF CONSUMPTION.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH WITH THAT BOUNDARY TO ALLOW PATRONS TO CONSUME IN THAT BOUNDARY AND THEN DISCUSS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO ALLOW BAR SERVICE OUTSIDE, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK I AGREE WE NEED TO DO A MIGHT NEED TO MAKE A MOTION NOW FOR THE OUTSIDE PREMISE. WE'LL ATTACK THAT ONE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL DO THE OTHER BECAUSE IT'S TWO IT'S TWO ISSUES.
PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, DO YOU ARE YOU GOING TO USE WRISTBANDS OR ARE YOU GOING TO FOR THE LARGER SPECIAL EVENTS OR SOME EVEN SOME EVENTS WE HAVE IN THE HALL? I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. MY KID, I GOT KIDS GRADUATING COLLEGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
MOST OF THEM ARE 22, 23, THE FRIENDS AND STUFF.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE, LITTLE PARTY GRADUATION PARTY FOR THEM THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO CARD EVERYBODY, GIVE THEM A WRISTBAND SO THE BARTENDERS AUTOMATICALLY KNOW, HEY, SOMEBODY'S WITH A WRISTBAND'S BEEN CARDED BY ADMINISTRATION OR SOMEBODY THAT'S TIPS TRAINED, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND BE SERVED, YOU KNOW, ON LIKE THE BIKE SHOW THE TURKEY, SHOOT THE BUNNY SHOOT.
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FOR NOW ON ALL BIG OUTDOOR EVENTS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WRISTBAND EVERYBODY THAT'S 21 AND OVER, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BROADCAST WHAT THAT WRISTBAND IS.SO WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING UP.
YOU KNOW, PROBABLY BE A WRISTBAND WITH AN INITIAL ON IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT IN PLACE, AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WE'VE ORDERED THE METAL SIGNS.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING 3 OR 4.
IF I NEED TO ADD SOME, I CAN, BUT MY GOAL WAS TO PUT ON EACH SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.
WHERE THE MOST TRAFFIC IS RIGHT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE DON'T WALK THE WALKING AROUND.
I MEAN, ANY GIVEN DAY, I MEAN, HE'S BEEN UP THERE A BUNCH.
IT'S I MEAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE 1 OR 2 OUTSIDE, MAYBE, LIKE YOU KNOW, IN ON THE PORCH OR SOMETHING, SMOKING A CIGARETTE OR DOING SOMETHING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, OR JUST ENJOYING THE WEATHER, BUT IT'S REALLY ONLY SPECIAL EVENTS WHERE WE'VE GOT PEOPLE MILLING AROUND OUT THERE OR BONFIRE.
YOU KNOW, WE 1200 WRISTBANDS ALREADY BEEN ORDERED.
JUST, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN TRY, AND I'M WORKING ON GETTING SOME THE GOAL IS TO GET SOME ORANGE SNOW FENCE BOUNDARY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN'T IN, BUT ALSO BE DISBANDED WHEN THEY CROSS THROUGH AN ACCESS POINT.
SO, YEAH, WE'RE BUYING 7 OR 900FT OF SNOW FENCE.
WE'VE HEARD IN THE PAST THAT ONE OF OUR FIRE COMPANIES HAD AN EVENT WHERE THEY HAD PEOPLE SNEAKING IN, AVOIDING PAYING THE ENTRY FEE FOR SOME OF THEIR LARGER EVENTS. SO THEY'VE HAD TO RESORT TO SOME FENCING TO HELP DO THAT FOR THE LARGER EVENTS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY PROACTIVE.
WE'RE DOING WE'RE DOING THE SNOW FENCE, BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING IT AN ADMITTANCE WRISTBAND.
SO TO BE ADMITTED IS GOING TO BE ONE COLOR--LET'S JUST SAY IT'S GREEN--AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE LIKE A YELLOW WRISTBAND MEANS YOU CAN PARTAKE IN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, AND THROUGH THE WARNING THAT I GAVE YOU AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED IS THAT GIVES YOU THE PERMISSION TO DRINK ON THE PROPERTY, BUT WITH THE SPECIAL EVENTS, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD. YOU'D STILL HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION FOR THOSE THINGS FOR HOLDING THE SPECIAL EVENT.
THAT'S SEPARATE FROM WHAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR.
THAT'S A MULTI-EVENT FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE FIRE HALLS TO GET A MULTIPLE EVENT LICENSE LIKE LIKE THE AMERICAN LEGION.
THAT'LL BE UP TO THE BOARD IF HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO.
WELL, WE ALSO HAVE SUNDAY CRUISE-INS TOO, SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT KIND OF CROWD YOU'RE GOING TO GET ON A CRUISE-IN, BUT EVERYBODY BRINGS THEIR CHEVELLES AND THEIR HARLEYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT UP THERE ON SUNDAY CRUISE-INS.
LET'S ADDRESS THE PREMISE THING.
I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A WHAT'S THE POST NUMBER FOR THE VFW? 5246. 5246.
IS IT? I DIDN'T SEE IT ON TOP.
OH YEAH IT IS. SORRY, I WAS TOO BUSY LOOKING AT THE RED LINES.
[CHUCKLING] I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'M GOING TO SAY PLAN NUMBER ONE.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE THAT WE ACCEPT THIS EXPANSION AREA FOR THE VFW.
MAKE A MOTION TO ADDRESS THE OUTSIDE SALES, LIQUOR SALES FOR THE VFW.
YEAH. ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? I'M MAKING A MOTION. OKAY, I SECOND THAT MOTION.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THIS EXPANSION TO INCLUDE OUTSIDE SALES WHEN THEY HAVE AN EVENT ON THE PREMISE.
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SO MOVED.NOW DO WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION ABOUT THIS MULTI EVENT? NO, BUT WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO DISCUSS IS DO YOU ARE YOU OKAY WITH THEM HAVING ALL THE EVENTS THEY WANT TO HAVE OR FOR THESE LARGER EVENTS, DO YOU WANT THEM TO COME IN FOR APPROVAL OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH GRANTING AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE PREMISE AREA? THEY'VE BEEN DOING EVENTS FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS ISN'T BRAND NEW FOR THEM, AND SO, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM JUST NOTIFYING EACH TIME THEY HAVE AN EVENT COMING.
RIGHT, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE LEGION IS.
I MEAN, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE TWO OF YOU.
YES, SIR. TERRIBLE DAY IN MY LIFE, I HAD MY WEDDING RECEPTION, BUT MY FIRST WIFE.
NOT THE SECOND. [CHUCKLING] IF YOU GO FOR NUMBER THREE, COME BACK AND SEE US.
[CHUCKLING] THE SECOND ONE WAS GREAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY ADMINISTRATION.
JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO BE COMPLETELY, 100% LIKE I WOULD NOT CONSIDER A CRUISE IN LIKE A BIG EVENT, I WOULD NOT, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER A TURKEY SHOOT [INAUDIBLE] SHOOT, BIKE SHOW, THINGS LIKE THAT, A BIG EVENT.
YEAH, THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE--THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
ABSOLUTELY. THAT WAY IT JUST MAKES IT EASY.
THAT'S ALREADY COVERED FOR THE YEAR.
THE ONLY THING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY, OTHER THAN THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAME UP.
WE DEFINITELY COULD DO THAT WITH THE TURKEY SHOOT, BUNNY SHOOT, AND PROBABLY THE BIKE SHOW.
DOES THE BIKE SHOW HAVE A RAIN DATE? I THINK WE'RE DOING RAIN OR SHINE.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO RAIN OR SHINE.
SO WE'RE JUST PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE.
I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I'M COMING A RAIN OR SHINE.
INSIDE, IF IT'S RAINING, I WOULD ALSO STATE I'D LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD THAT IF THEY WERE TO HAVE A BEER TRUCK AS FAR AS TO KEEPING TRACK OF RECORDS THAT WOULD BE CONSTITUTED AS AN EVENT TO BE NOTIFIED OF THAT, RIGHT, BECAUSE KEEPING TRACK OF RECORDS ON THAT WOULD BE THAT'S A LARGER EVENT LIKE WE WERE.
I MEAN, IT'S A KEG COOLER. WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING.
YEAH, IT'S A KEG COOLER. SO IT'S REALLY IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN HAVING KEGS INSIDE OR WHATEVER, BUT THE WE'RE REALLY THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS SO WE CAN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SELL SO MANY HAMBURGERS AND FRENCH FRIES AND ALL THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FREEZER ROOM INSIDE.
I LIKE YOUR PASSION ABOUT DOING THIS, AND I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US FIRST.
[CHUCKLING] YEAH, IF THEY SEE SOMEBODY UNDERAGE, THEY'RE RIGHT ON IT.
YEAH,, TWO OF US HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND.
SO AND I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT MARKET STREET IN SALISBURY.
I WAS HEAD OF SECURITY THERE, AND SO I'M VERY AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, WHATCOM COUNTY'S LIQUOR BOARD RULES, AND IT'S PRETTY BASIC ALONG ALONG THE LINE EVERYWHERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND.
SO I'M VERY VERSED ON WHAT TO LOOK OUT FOR IN THAT CONTEXT.
WELL, I THINK YOUR SNOW FENCING WILL HELP YOU A LOT.
THANK YOU, SIR. MAKE IT EASIER ON YOU GUYS ONCE.
IT'S ONCE YOU'RE USING IT, I APPRECIATE THAT.
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE HOMESTEAD REAL ESTATE LLC, DOING BUSINESS AS THE PRESTON ROAD HOUSE.
[Homestead Real Estate, LLC, DBA Preston Roadhouse- New License]
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THAT?[00:35:01]
PLEASE STAND WE'LL DO THE OATH.GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, IN THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE IN THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. I DO.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT 152 MAIN STREET IN PRESTON.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ IN THE EXHIBITS.
BEFORE YOU DO NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING, READ YOUR NOTICE.
PUBLIC HEARING. READ THAT FIRST BEFORE THE EXHIBITS.
YES. BEFORE YOU DO THE EXHIBITS.
IS NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT PURSUANT TO THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE ARTICLE OF THE ANNOTATED CODE OF MARYLAND, THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING BEGINNING AT 930 ON THURSDAY, MAY 23RD, 2024, RELATIVE TO THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION.
A REQUEST BY IAN FLEMING FOR THE USE OF HOMESTEAD REAL ESTATE LLC, DOING BUSINESS AS PRESTON ROADHOUSE, LOCATED AT 201201 MAIN STREET, PRESTON, MARYLAND, FOR A NEW CLASS B BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR RESTAURANT.
ANY CITIZENS INTERESTED IN THIS APPLICATION WISHING TO BE HEARD BY THE BOARD ARE INVITED TO ATTEND.
ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS SHOULD BE SUBMITTED BY THE BOARD PRIOR TO THE HEARING AT THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS.
403 SOUTH SEVENTH STREET, DENTON, MARYLAND.
THIS RAN IN THE TIMES RECORD MAY 8TH AND MAY 15TH, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE HAS NO COMMENTS.
THERE'S ONE CHANGE, SOMETHING THAT DOES NEED CORRECTING.
ON THE STAFF REPORT APPLICATION HOMESTEAD REAL ESTATE LLC.
IT HAS IT LISTED AS IAN MITCHELL.
OH, YEAH. JUST THAT NEEDS TO BE, SHOULD BE CORRECTED.
YEAH, I WAS LOOKING I WAS WONDERING.
EXPLAIN WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU PLAN ON DOING.
YES. WE'VE ACQUIRED THE REAL ESTATE AND HAVE BEEN REFURBISHING IT SUBSTANTIALLY TO PROVIDE A FULL RESTAURANT SERVICE AND THE BAR SERVICE PRIORITY IS ON THE FOOD SIDE OF THE BUSINESS.
THERE IS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MILES THERE IS BEFORE YOU'LL FIND A BAR ANYWHERE NEAR PRESTON, AND THERE'S NO RESTAURANT FACILITY IN THE TOWN EITHER. WE FEEL THERE'S A NEED.
IT'S THE SECOND BUSIEST ROAD IN THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE BUSINESS.
I REALLY SHOULD HAVE RETIRED RECENTLY, BUT AS I MOVED INTO PRESTON, KATIE MAE'S IS CLOSED.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON BEHIND SORT OF OPENING THE RESTAURANT.
A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. ABOUT 45 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS.
I CURRENTLY I'M NOT ON ANY LICENSES.
GREAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? TREY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I NOTICED IN THE PRINT THAT YOU PROVIDED US THAT IT HAS THE BACK PARKING LOT CIRCLED.
WHAT IS YOUR LICENSE PREMISE? THE LICENSE PREMISE FOR US IS THE PHYSICAL REAL ESTATE.
OKAY. WHAT CONSTRUCTION HAVE YOU DONE SINCE YOU'VE NOT ADDED ANY PATIOS? ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO.
OUR CONSTRUCTION BEING NEW ROOF REPAIRED, FRONT ELEVATION REPLACE WALLS, CEILINGS, FLOORS.
OKAY, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE STRUCTURE AS IT IS.
OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO IDENTIFY THAT, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THINGS IS THE TWO COUNTIES THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVE HAD LICENSES IN ARE QUITE DIFFERENT THAN THE GENERAL FACILITY, WHETHER YOU THINK THAT'S BETTER OR WORSE THAN THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES, BUT THEY'RE QUITE DIFFERENT.
JUST JUST TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THOSE RULES, THAT'S ALL.
YEAH. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
NEITHER ONE BETTER OF THE OTHER.
I JUST NEED TO ENSURE THAT I'M AWARE OF WHAT THOSE DIFFERENCES ARE.
RIGHT. LIKE I SAID, BETTER OR WORSE, JUST IT'S JUST DIFFERENT, THAT'S ALL, AND WE GENERALLY SPEAKING TO PROTECT ME GENERALLY ALL MY STAFF ARE CERTIFIED, INCLUDING MY CHEFS. SO I CERTIFY EVERYBODY WE USE [INAUDIBLE] TECHNOLOGY IN OUR SYSTEMS.
[00:40:05]
SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY PROMPTS ALL THE SERVERS TO CARD CHECK EVERYBODY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT AGE THEY LOOK LIKE.OKAY. YOU'RE CLOSED SUNDAYS? YES. [INAUDIBLE] SOME QUESTIONS.
OKAY, AND CAN YOU IDENTIFY THE HOURS THAT YOU'LL BE OPEN? BROADLY SPEAKING, IT WILL BE 11 A.M.
SO IT'LL BE LUNCH TIMES WILL BE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
CLOSED ALL DAY. SUNDAY CLOSED MONDAY NIGHTS, AND ROUGHLY 11 A.M.
OPENING IN THE MORNING. OKAY, SO JUST LUNCH AND DINNER.
YES. OKAY, AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF FORMAT AS WHAT? KATIE MAE'S HAD THE BAR TO COMPLEMENT DINNER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO BE PUTTING THE BAR BACK IN THAT ORIGINAL POSITION.
THE BAR IS NOT THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE BUSINESS.
IT WILL BE 12 SEATER, 12 SEATS, THE BAR PREMISES AND TOTAL 7280 COVERS.
SO NO KIND OF PLANNED EVENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST DINNERS.
OKAY. I WANT TO KEEP IT NICE AND SIMPLE.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE OUTSTANDING ITEMS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT STANDS OUT THAT'S UNUSUAL OR THERE? I MEAN, THEY LOOK LIKE JUST NORMAL THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE.
YEAH. NORMAL. CLEARED UP? YEP. OKAY. STEWART.
HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE LLC DOCUMENTATION? OKAY. EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD.
OKAY. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR KNOW FACTORS OF DENIAL AND APPROVAL.
RIGHT, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START? NO. OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE SURE WE HAVE AMONGST OURSELVES OR WHATEVER, BUT SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE PUBLIC NEED AND DESIRE FOR THE LICENSE.
I MEAN, KATIE MAE'S ALSO WAS NOT A LARGE ALCOHOL.
NO, IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO EVER BE A BAR, BUT THEY DID ALWAYS OFFER YOU BEER OR WINE.
SO THIS THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS YOU'RE GOING TO DO LIQUOR TOO, RIGHT? CORRECT. BEER WINE LIQUOR.
YEAH. YEAH, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED.
YEAH. THE SECOND ONE IS A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS EXISTING LICENSE HOLDERS, BUT YOU HAVE THEM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND RIGHT UP THE STREET, BUT THERE'S NONE.
THERE'S NONE THAT ARE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS AND WHATNOT.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANY INCONVENIENCE OR IMPOSE ON IT.
THERE'S NOTHING ANYWHERE IN PRESTON OR NEARBY AS FAR AS ON PREMISE.
YEAH. THE POTENTIAL EFFECT ON EXISTING LICENSE HOLDER OF THE LICENSES FOR WHICH THE APPLICATION IS MADE, I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE A CONFLICT AS WELL. NO, I DO NOT EITHER.
AS WE STATED, THAT'S THE ONLY RESTAURANT WITHIN MILES.
SO [INAUDIBLE]. THE IMPACT OF THE LICENSE FOR WHICH THE APPLICATION IS MADE ON THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ISSUES RELATED TO CRIME, TRAFFIC, PARKING OR CONVENIENCE.
SO NUMBER SIX AND ANY OTHER FACTORS THAT THE BOARD CONSIDERS NECESSARY, I THINK WE IN OUR DISCUSSION WE'VE WORKED ON, I THINK HE ESTABLISHED THAT HIS PREMISE AREA WILL BE INSIDE THE BUILDING, AND THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY OTHER I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER FACTOR.
HE STATED AS HOURS OF OPERATION AND IT'S A SIX DAY LICENSE, SO PLUS I GOT TIPS TRAINING.
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YES. MOVING ON, THE BOARD SHALL DENY A LICENSE APPLICATION IF THE BOARD DETERMINES THAT.NUMBER ONE, THE GRANTING OF THE LICENSE IS NOT NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE THE PUBLIC.
SO TO THE APPLICANT IS NOT A FIT PERSON TO RECEIVE A LICENSE.
THAT DOESN'T APPLY. WE'VE GOT ALL THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND EVERYTHING CORRECT CHECKED OUT.
THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A MATERIAL FALSE STATEMENT IN THE APPLICATION.
I DON'T FEEL THAT--WE DON'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS ACTED FRAUDULENTLY IN CONNECTION WITH THE APPLICATION.
IF THE LICENSE IS ISSUED TO OPERATION, AUTHORIZED BY THE LICENSE WOULD DULY UNDULY DISTURB THE PEACE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DESCRIBED APPLICATION FOR OTHER REASONS THAT BOARD COULD CONSIDERS SUFFICIENT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
AS HE STATED, HE WANTS A LOW KEY.
HE'S NOT LOOKING AT HAVING BIG EVENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST CORRECT, RIGHT, A RESTAURANT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM OR SOMETHING I DON'T.
AT THIS TIME I WELCOME NO I LIVE IN PERSON SO I LIKE I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING.
YEAH. WE'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE SUPPORT AND ENTHUSIASM WE'VE RECEIVED.
OUR SORT OF PRE-OPENING SOCIAL MEDIA MARKETING HAS KIND OF PULLED IN SORT OF 3000 SUPPORTERS.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO OPENING AND RUNNING A GOOD A GOOD BUSINESS.
I THINK THE PRIOR BUSINESS HAD A GOOD FOLLOWING.
WE HAD A GOOD REPUTATION THAT PROVED THAT THERE WAS.
HOW SOON DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE ALCOHOL? OUR TARGET OPENING IS THE END OF THE THIRD WEEK OF JUNE.
OKAY. WE BRING OUR FULL TEAM ON BOARD AROUND THE 1ST OF JUNE, SO WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING TO PURCHASE AND A STOCK ALCOHOL SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT WILL TYPICALLY HAPPEN, I'LL COME OUT, I'LL DO AN INSPECTION AND OF COURSE, THE FIRST ONE'S A LEARNING.
YEAH. LET US KNOW THE WHEN YOU FIRM DATE AND THEN HE CAN COME BE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME.
YES BECAUSE ANY APPROVAL WOULD THE BOARD WOULD GRANT TODAY IS GOOD FOR 30 DAYS.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE READY FOR PICKING UP YOUR LICENSE WITHIN 30 DAYS, OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AN EXTENSION OF THAT TIME THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THAT TODAY, IF YOU THINK YOU WILL.
WE'RE PRETTY MUCH PUT A LINE IN THE SAND IN THE THIRD WEEK OF JUNE, AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A CLASS B BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR LICENSE TO THE PRESTON ROADHOUSE, A SIX DAY OPENING FROM 11 A.M.
PROVIDED THAT THIS IS DONE WITHIN 30 DAYS, IF NOT, THE APPLICANT WILL CONTACT US AND ALSO ON THE CONDITION THAT ALL OUTSTANDING ITEMS LISTED ON OUR REPORT ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. GOOD LUCK SIR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHO'S NEXT? NEXT ON THE NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE.
[Shivam Ridgely Corp T/A Ridgely Exxon- New License]
MAKE SURE I SAY THIS RIGHT. SHIVAM RIDGLEY CORP.YES. [INAUDIBLE], MR. CHAIR. YES.
CAN I GET BEFORE THEY SIT DOWN? CAN I GET YOU TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND WE'LL DO THE.
WE'LL DO THE OATH, BOTH OF YOU.
DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE IN THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NOW YOU MAY BE SEATED.
YES, PLEASE. NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT PURSUANT TO THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ARTICLE OF THE ANNOTATED CODE OF MARYLAND, THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING BEGINNING AT 9:30 A.M.
[00:50:01]
ON THURSDAY, MAY 23RD, 2024, RELATIVE TO THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION.A REQUEST BY KUMAR PATEL FOR THE USE OF SHIVAM RIDGLEY CORP.
ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD PRIOR TO THE HEARING AT THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS.
43 SOUTH SEVENTH STREET, SUITE 210, DENTON, MARYLAND, 21629.
THIS AD RAN IN THE TIMES RECORD MAY 8TH AND MAY 15TH, AND NO COMMENTS WERE GIVEN.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DON'T FORGET YOUR EXHIBITS, TOO.
SO THE EXHIBIT LIST, EXHIBIT ONE IS A NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
EXHIBIT TWO, THE STAFF REPORT.
THREE, THE APPLICATION FOR THE CORPORATION DOCUMENTS.
SIX IS THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND THE SEVENTH IS THE APPLICANT NOTICE.
OKAY. YOU'RE UP. MR. CHAIRMAN AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
WE AS YOU KNOW, WE LAST YEAR, WE APPLIED FOR A LICENSE, RECEIVED IT.
HOWEVER, WHEN WE GOT INSPECTING PREMISES ON THE INSIDE, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE NEEDED TO DO ALL FOUR WALLS AND EVEN PART OF THE FLOOR AS A FIX UP.
SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH NEAR THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE EXPECTING 2 TO 3 WEEKS BEFORE WE HAVE THE OPENING.
I TOLD THEM THEY WEREN'T GIVING THEIR WORKERS ENOUGH ENERGY DRINKS OR SOMETHING.
[CHUCKLING] THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOING FASTER, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE THEY HAVE SO MUCH WORK.
YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE ALSO OPERATE THE OLD FOSTERS MINI MART AND DELI AND EVERYTHING THERE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SAME THING AS THE ORIGINAL EXXON AND AS THEY ORIGINALLY SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE.
EXCEPT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DELI OR, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A DELI.
OKAY. WELL, THAT'S THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
YEAH. SO THEY THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A DELI, AND THE AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE GAS.
I SAT IN THERE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS ONE AFTERNOON UNDER THE PREVIOUS OWNERS, I GUESS TWO PREVIOUS OWNERS, AND I MEAN, PEOPLE JUST ROLLED IN THERE TO GET GAS IN THE AFTERNOON AND, AND PICK UP THEIR SNACKS AND THEIR BEER AND, AND ALCOHOL, WHATEVER.
THEY, WHATEVER THEY WANTED THEM, AND IT WAS JUST A CONSTANT FLOW.
I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN CLOSED FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS ALL OF THIS TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH RIDGELY AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT TURN DOWN MAIN STREET AND GO ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK AND GO TO FOSTER'S.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S IT'S EASY FOR THE PATEL FAMILY.
[INAUDIBLE] HERE ARE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
KAMAL IS THE SOLE OPERATOR OF THE ALCOHOL PART OF IT.
THE LICENSING PART OF IT, AND SHE LIVES RIGHT THERE.
SO SHE'S GOING TO BE THERE ALMOST ALL OF THE TIME.
I THINK EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN.
THE WHOLE PATEL FAMILY HAS BEEN TIPS TRAINED, AND EVERYBODY THEY HIRE IS TIPPED, TRAINED AND THEY KEEP THAT UP BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO REALLY BECAUSE THEY ALL THEY ALL WORK.
THE FAMILY WORKS THE BUSINESS.
IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HIRED EMPLOYEES.
SO WITH THAT I THINK JIGAR KAMAL, YOU CAN ONE OF YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HOURS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO GET OPEN IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HOURS.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO OPEN IN THE MORNING AND YOU'RE GOING TO.
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OR 10, AND AS OF NOW WE [INAUDIBLE] SO WE MIGHT CLOSE EARLY, BUT ONCE WE BECOME MORE BUSINESS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO STAY OPEN UNTIL TEN.NO LATER THAN 10, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GAS? YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GAS.
YES. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THE DELI GOING TO BE HOT DELI, I GUESS? YES, EVEN A HOT DELI.
OKAY. THEY USED TO BE HAVE IT.
SO WE KEEP EVERYTHING INSIDE THE FOOD AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT OUR OWN WAY, DELI.
YEAH, LIKE BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER, AND I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A FAMILY, AND YOU HAVE TWO BUSINESSES HERE AT RIDGEWOOD.
YOU CAN'T CART ALCOHOL FROM ONE SIDE OF TOWN TO THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.
YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE DELIVERED.
STAY AT WHATEVER ESTABLISHMENT.
SO THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN AT THIS A LONG TIME.
SO I THINK THEY KNOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND.
COME ON, YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE AS I GUESS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT? YES, AND THEN YOUR HUSBAND, [INAUDIBLE], HE'S KIND OF THE TRAVELING FAMILY MEMBER, YOU KNOW, HE'S AN HOUR OR TWO EACH DAY AT, AT THEIR VARIOUS ESTABLISHMENTS.
SO AND THEY OWN THE MALL NOW IN RIDGELY, THAT LITTLE MALL THERE WHERE THE PIZZA PLACE IS.
YEAH WHERE QUEENSTOWN BANK IS.
YEAH, YEAH, THEY OWN THAT MALL NOW.
SO THE FAMILY DOES IT A DIFFERENT CORPORATION, AND THEY ALSO OWN THE OLD MARVEL'S BEVERAGE BUILDING, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A DELAWARE BEVERAGE COMPANY IS GOING TO OPERATE OUT OF THERE, ASSUMING THEY GET THE PERMITS AND EVERYTHING FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO DO SO.
I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SELL OUT OF THERE.
IS THAT THE ONE BY BELL STREET? ON THE RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO FOSTER'S? YES. INDUSTRIAL PARK.
THAT'S WHERE THE OLD MARVEL'S THAT ONE I DON'T RECOGNIZE THE NAME OF GROWING UP.
YEAH. IT WAS MARVEL'S BEVERAGES WERE WHERE YOU GOT YOUR BEVERAGES AROUND HERE, AND, YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE MAKE USE OF THAT. LIKE I SAY, THAT'S BEEN WORKED OUT, THE LEASE AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S WAITING ON THEM.
THEY THEY OPERATE OUT OF ONE PLACE IN DELAWARE NOW, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK MILTON.
IS IT IN DELAWARE? I THINK SURE, AND I THINK SO THEY'RE OKAY IN DELAWARE, BUT THEY NEED A YOU KNOW, A LOCATION OVER HERE, AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW DELAWARE AND MARYLAND DO THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR CONCERN.
THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THIS.
SO UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WELL, THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE CORPORATE DOCUMENTS OR ANYTHING.
WE HAVEN'T CHANGED A SINGLE THING.
BEHIND IT AND UPSTAIRS APARTMENT.
SO AS WE'RE GOING TO LOCK THE DOOR FROM THE DOWNSTAIRS SO NOBODY CAN GO UPSTAIRS OR DOWNSTAIRS, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE NEW DOOR BACK SIDE THE BUILDING WITHOUT A PERMIT FROM THE TOWN. SO IT WILL BE SEPARATE FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING.
OKAY. SO THERE WILL BE NO ACCESS FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING TO GET THERE? NOT AT ALL. OKAY. THAT WAS A CONCERN BEFORE.
SO YOU'RE ONLY LICENSED. PREMISE WOULD BE WHAT'S THERE NOW? NOT THE BACK, NOT THE LAUNDROMAT.
NO. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE MAIN BUILDING.
THOSE LAUNDROMAT STORE AREA ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS YOU'RE FACING RIDGLEY.
EXXON. NO, THAT'S NOT THE LICENSED PREMISES.
OKAY. EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE A POINT OF SALE.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MAIN BUILDING.
STORAGE IS IN THE BACK OF THE MAIN BUILDING.
SO IT'S ALL ALL THE MAIN BUILDING.
MY QUESTION IS, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THIS, BUT SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR AGO, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT.
DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR APPROVAL THE SAME OR.
YES, BECAUSE IT'S A NEW APPLICATION.
BECAUSE IT'S ALL NEW APPLICATION, BECAUSE THEY TIMED OUT.
YEAH. WE DON'T MIND THAT WE'RE.
DOESN'T MEAN YOUR FINDINGS ARE NOT STILL THE SAME.
NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFIED WHAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH.
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DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE APARTMENT.HERE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, OUR FACTORS OF DENIAL OR APPROVAL.
FIRST ONE IS THE PUBLIC NEED AND DESIRE FOR THE LICENSE.
I THINK THERE IS I FEEL THERE IS.
IT'S BEEN A BUSINESS THERE FOR YEARS THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.
THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS BUSINESSES THERE OF THE SAME TYPE.
CONNOLLY'S. CONNOLLY'S? YES, SIR. THE NUMBER AND LOCATION OF EXISTING LICENSE HOLDERS.
THERE'S IS A TRY ME WAREHOUSE STILL OPEN? YEAH I DON'T SEE, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S AN OVERABUNDANCE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME THAT HAVE ACTUALLY CLOSED.
CORRECT. ONE'S KIND OF THE CENTER OF TOWN.
THAT'S RIGHT. YES, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK YOU HIT ON IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THOROUGH THAT'S A [INAUDIBLE].
YOU KNOW, FOSTER'S IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.
YOU'RE GETTING A DIFFERENT YES, A DIFFERENT CUSTOMER BASE THAN THE ONES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH.
THE POTENTIAL EFFECT ON EXISTING LICENSE HOLDERS AND LICENSE OF WHICH APPLICATIONS MADE.
I DON'T SEE ANY. I DON'T SEE ANY ILL EFFECTS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FUEL AND EVERYTHING.
YES. YEAH. FUEL, AND THE ONLY OTHER ONE THEY'RE IN COMPETITION WITH IS BASICALLY THEIR OWN FAMILY.
CORRECT. YEAH. YOU MIGHT PUT YOURSELF OUT OF BUSINESS.
YEAH. THE IMPACT OF THE LICENSE OF WHICH THE APPLICATION IS MADE ON THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ISSUES RELATED TO CRIME, TRAFFIC, PARKING AND OR CONVENIENCE. THERE AGAIN, I DON'T SEE ANY REAL I DON'T SEE ANY IMPACT THAT'S GOING TO THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE THE RIDGELAND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WELL, YEAH, BUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE A CONTRACT NOW WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SO AND THEN THE OTHER FACTOR THAT THE BOARD CONSIDERS NECESSARY, I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS HAVE.
MOVING ON THE BOARD SHALL DENY A LICENSE APPLICATION.
IT IS NECESSARY. IT IS NECESSARY.
THE NAPKIN IS NOT A FIT PERSON TO RECEIVE THE LICENSE.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
YOU'VE HAD ALL THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND EVERYTHING COME THROUGH CLEAN.
THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A MATERIAL FALSE STATEMENT IN THE APPLICATION.
I DON'T SEE THAT. I DON'T SEE THAT EITHER.
NOT THAT WE KNOW OF. NOT THAT WE KNOW OF.
IF IT IS, MR. THORNTON DID IT.
[CHUCKLING] THE APPLICANT IS ACTIVE FRAUDULENT IN CONNECTION WITH THE APPLICATION THERE.
AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE.
IF THE LICENSE IS ISSUED, THE OPERATION AUTHORIZED BY THE LICENSE WOULD UNDULY DISTURB THE PEACE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OF THE LOCATION DESCRIBED IN THE APPLICATION, OR FOR A REASON, AS THE BOARD CONSIDERS SUFFICIENT.
I DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE.
YOU WANT TO DO THE MOTION? IF YOU WANT ME TO, YES, SIR.
LET ME JUST MAKE ONE MORE NOTE.
IS THAT GOOD OR BAD? IT'S JUST TO KEEP ME IN LINE, GLEN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SHIVAM RIDGLEY CORP DOING BUSINESS AS RIDGLEY.
EXXON FOR CLASS A BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR RETAIL STORES.
SEVEN DAY OFF PREMISE SALES OF ALCOHOL.
AS THE HOURS OF OPERATION SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. THANK YOU.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S 30 DAYS.
YES. I WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT POINT.
YES, SIR. YOU SAID YOU'RE A FEW WEEKS OUT, SO I GUESS YOU'RE.
YES. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR THE NEXT MONTH AND BE SURE WHEN YOU DO THE SAME ISSUE WE HAD DISCUSSED SAME THING YOU HEARD WE'LL DO AN EDUCATIONAL INSPECTION.
MAYBE. HOPEFULLY, YOU HAVE PICTURES BEFORE AND AFTER BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE A BIG CHANGE.
[01:05:03]
THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
ROCK THE BARN JULY 13TH, 2024.
[Chamber of Commerce- Temporary Application- Rock the Barn]
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE.GO SIT DOWN. [CHUCKLING] DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE IN THE TESTIMONY GIVES THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
TRACY SNYDER, 8907 OSTERMAN COURT, DENTON, MARYLAND.
THANK YOU. NOW YOU MAY PROCEED.
YOU'RE FINE. SO THEY WANT TO DO AN EVENT TO LET YOU GO? YEAH. ROCK THE BARN.
JULY 13TH AT COW BARN BEER AND WINE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO A CASH BAR.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN YOUR EVENT, HERE'S THEIR SITE PLAN.
OKAY, SO THE EVENT IS WE HAVE THREE BANDS, A DJ VENDORS IN THE BARN KELLY DISTRIBUTOR WILL BE OUR BEER TRUCK, AND WE'LL HAVE WINE, LIKE, KIND OF.
WE HAVE SEVEN CHEFS, INCLUDING THE CULINARY.
OKAY. COMING, BECAUSE IT WILL BE A BATTLE OF THE FOODIES AND MUSIC.
SO IT'S A MUSIC FESTIVAL WITH BATTLE OF THE FOODIES ALL COMBINED AT THE COW BARN.
IF IT RAINS, WE'RE ALL GOING IN THE BARN.
THAT'S JUST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
MUSIC IS IN. THAT'S JUST THE PLAN, AND THE HAY FIELD.
YOU SEE, THE HAY FIELD IS THE OVERFLOW PARKING.
WE WILL HAVE WHERE THE GUESTS COME IN.
MY ASSISTANT AND MYSELF ARE BOTH TIPS CERTIFIED, SO HER NAME IS AMANDA CHALUPA, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN COMMANDEER A DAVE WHALEY, AS WE USUALLY DO, AND OUR BEER TRUCKS.
WE LOVE DAVE WHALEY, [CHUCKLING] BUT THE BANDS WILL BE UP ON A STAGE THAT WE'VE GOT FROM TOWERS, AND WE'LL BE UP TO THE BARN, AND THEN THE DJ WILL BE ON THEIR DECK, AND THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO GO UP TO THE BARN, THROUGH THE STAIRS OR AROUND.
WE WILL HAVE ALL THE OTHER EXITS KIND OF COMING INTO THE BARN BLOCKED OFF.
SO THEY'LL HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE PARKING LOT OR THE OVERFLOW FIELD, WHICH MR. COLLISON WILL BE HANDLING THE OVERFLOW IF WE NEED IT.
SO THAT BECAUSE IT'S HIS PROPERTY AND HE WANTS TO MAINTAIN THAT.
SO THAT'S THE PLAN IS 4 TO 10.
WE'RE SERVING LOTS OF, WE HAVE SEVEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOOD, SO YOU CAN EAT YOUR WAY THROUGH THE FOOD TRUCKS AND OR CHEFS AS WELL AS LISTEN TO THE MUSIC.
WE HAVE A 70S BAND CALLED THE EIGHT TRACKS.
WE HAVE 21 HORSES, WHICH IS A COUNTRY, AND THEN WE HAVE GREEN RIDGE, WHICH IS OUR MOST CONTROVERSIAL TO ME BECAUSE THEY'RE HEAVY METAL, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO TONE IT DOWN AND DO SOME COVER THINGS, AND THEN THE DJ WILL KIND OF RUN THROUGH EVERYTHING START TO FINISH.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE THEIR JAZZ FESTIVAL THAT THE ART COUNCIL DID.
ONLY THE ART COUNCIL IS NOT INVOLVED.
YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS EVENTS AT COW BARN.
THE AREA IS PRETTY WELL SECLUDED TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM WANDERING AWAY.
YOU'VE ANSWERED, I THINK YOU'VE HIT ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED, THE WRISTBAND THING WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ALWAYS COMES UP, AND YOU PRETTY MUCH TOLD US THE AREAS THAT WILL BE IN USE.
WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH.
NOPE. I JUST DID AN INSPECTION ON TRACY AND I'M SURE SHE'LL BE ON TOP OF IT.
ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION? I THINK SO, TOO.
SHE'S ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REQUEST FOR A TEMPORARY APPLICATION.
RAUCOUS BARN ON JULY THE 13TH.
WERE THOSE SERVE BEER AND WINE.
THE EVENT IS TO BE HELD FROM 4 TO 10, AND RAIN OR SHINE.
[01:10:02]
I SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS TEMPORARY LICENSE FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EVENT ROCK THE BARN.AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
GOOD LUCK AGAIN. DO I HAVE TO STAND DO THE OKTOBERFEST OR AM I GOOD?
[Chamber of Commerce- Temporary Application -Mactoberfest]
YOU CAN. YOU'VE ALREADY. YOU'RE ALREADY SWORN IN.YOU CAN STAND DO THE NEXT ONE, BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE COMING TO DO.
YOU'VE ALREADY. YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN.
[CHUCKLING] MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS.
WE HAVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OKTOBERFEST.
HE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN.
SO SO THIS YEAR WE'RE MOVING IT TO THE CHESAPEAKE CULINARY CENTER, AND WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT, EVEN THOUGH DAVID WANTS TO TAKE POSSESSION OF IT EVENTUALLY, HE SAYS, BUT HE'S NOT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYTHING CONTAINED WITHIN.
VIP WILL BE INSIDE, AND SO THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE THEIR BADGE TO GO INSIDE, HAVE A RESPITE.
VIP MEANS THEY GET MORE PORTIONS, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A MASSAGE IF THEY WANT IN THE MASSAGE CHAIR AND A COOKING DEMO FROM DAVID AND SOME DIFFERENT THINGS AND USING INSIDE RESTROOM.
WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING BREWERIES, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE EARLY BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER IN THE YEAR OF WE WANT TO DO TASTINGS OF BREW AND MAC IF PEOPLE PAY FOR THE TICKET AND WE HAVE TWO BREWERIES RIGHT NOW, TEN EYCK AND BIG TRUCK, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO WORK WITH KELLY.
EITHER THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN STATION AND THEY'LL BE DOING THE SAMPLES AND PEOPLE WILL PAY FOR THAT, AND EVERYBODY WILL BE WRISTBAND INCLUDING THE VIPS. RIGHT, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TASTE SOME OF THE BEER AND EAT MAC AND CHEESE.
THAT'S THE PLAN. PLUS, WE ARE APPLYING FOR THE OVER OVERALL SALE OF IT.
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SELL THE BEER AS WELL, NOT JUST LITTLE.
HAVE A FUN TIME WITH THAT, AND WE WANT A KID AND FAMILY FRIENDLY STILL.
SO THAT'S WHY PEOPLE COME BUY A TICKET FOR BEER AND MAC OR JUST MAC.
YOU KNOW, OR VIP, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
THE VENDORS WILL BE ALONG THE WROUGHT IRON GATE INSIDE THE INSIDE THE FENCE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE CONES BLOCKING OFF FRANKLIN SO THAT THE CHEFS PULL IN, EVERYTHING'S CONTAINED WITHIN THE BUILDING AND THE PERIMETER OF THE CULINARY CENTER.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PERFECT SCENARIO FOR US BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT ON THE MAIN STREET CREATES A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO WALK ON THE STREET AND DRINK. EVERYBODY WANTS TO WALK AND DRINK.
THIS IS A NICE CONFINED AREA AND THEY DON'T DRINK THAT MUCH WITH US.
OUR PROCEEDS GO TO OUR SCHOLARSHIP FUND FOR THE BEER AND WINE.
I'M NOT EVER HAD ANYONE WALK OUT OF THERE.
DIDN'T THE OKTOBERFEST, DIDN'T IT START AT THE CULINARY SCHOOL? NO, WE DID IT AT THE 4H PARK.
THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR, AND THEN YOU WERE IN RIDGLEY.
THEN WE MOVED. WE DID 4H, THEN WE DID TWO WAS NEVER AT THE DENTON'S RIGHT ON MARKET STREET, AND THEN THEY THEY BECAME, WELL, YOU CAN'T USE THIS AND YOU CAN'T USE.
SO THEN LAST YEAR WAS RIDGLEY.
[LAUGHTER] MARKET STREET WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE US, BUT IT IS JUST SO, TRACY, I GOT A QUESTION.
SINCE YOU DO HAVE RESIDENCES ON THE OTHER SIDE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION WITH THEM OR ANYTHING WITH THE TOWN THAT THEY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH? THE TOWN IS AWARE AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEMS, AND WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS WE WILL GIVE NOTICE.
SO PEOPLE HAVE TIME IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
OKAY, AND USUALLY WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN ANY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE 4H PARK IS OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, AND I GUESS THERE WOULD BE NO THE BIGGEST ON STREET PARKING NOW.
PROBABLY. RIGHT, BECAUSE WHERE YOU'RE HAVING IT IS TAKING UP ALL THEIR IS ALL THEIR PARKING.
RIGHT, RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THERE'S PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF FRANKLIN.
[01:15:02]
WE'RE GOING TO ASK ADVANTAGE REHAB.WE'RE GOING TO ASK SAINT LUKE'S IF THEY MIGHT BECAUSE IT'S A SATURDAY.
THEY USUALLY TYPICALLY AREN'T USING THEIR CHURCH AT THAT PARKING LOT AT THAT TIME.
THIS EVENT HAS NEVER BEEN UNRULY LIKE WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY THIS WILL BE SIX YEARS AND EVERYBODY LIKES IT, AND THE CROWDS ARE NOT HUGE BECAUSE WE CHARGE AN ADMISSION.
IT'S NOT LIKE DOWNTOWN RIDGELY'S WINTERFEST, WHERE EVERYBODY CAN COME IN FOR FREE.
WE CONTROL THE CROWD SIZE BECAUSE WE CHARGE TO GET IT.
DO THEY NEED A SITE PLAN? I HAVE ONE, IT'S I'M SORRY I DID IT QUICKLY AND IT IS WITH GRAPHICS, BUT I CAN MAKE IT LOOK BETTER.
I HAVE WHERE THE TRUCKS WILL BE.
I HAVE WHERE THE VENDORS WILL BE.
I YES, I'M GETTING, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SHARE THROUGH CANVAS.
THERE YOU GO. SO IT JUST GIVES YOU THE IDEA OF WHERE EVERYTHING WILL BE AND HOW WE'LL DO IT, AND WE WON'T HAVE MORE THAN THREE BREWERIES.
WE WON'T. WE DON'T NEED MORE THAN THREE.
WE MAY ONLY STAY WITH TWO BECAUSE THEY HAVE ENOUGH BREW SAMPLES THAT I THINK IT WILL APPEASE PEOPLE, AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST AN IDEA TO ELEVATE THE EVENT A LITTLE BIT.
SO VIPS WILL HAVE AN ENTRANCE INSIDE.
THE DJ AND THERE'LL BE SOME TABLES AND CHAIRS ON THEIR PATIO AND A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE ABOUT, AND THEN THE WHOLE FENCED AREA WILL BE THE VENDORS AND WE'LL MAP IT OUT SO WE DON'T HAVE TOO MANY.
[INAUDIBLE] I DON'T EVER HAVE A RAIN DATE, YOU CAN'T MOVE THESE MANY PEOPLE.
PEOPLE WILL COME OR THEY WON'T.
I JUST YOU. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD BE PUTTING UP BIG PARTY TENTS OR SOMETHING.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE COULD MAYBE DO THAT, BUT THAT'S AN EXPENSE I CAN'T, I CAN'T AFFORD.
YOU'RE EITHER COMING IN THE RAIN OR YOU'RE NOT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TEN CHEFS, 50 VENDORS, A NO NO RAIN DATES FOR ME.
IT GOES. SO THE ONLY OTHER AREA THAT IS WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE COMES IN AND OUT, AND THAT'S WHERE FOOD TRUCKS AND CORRECT OTHER THINGS WILL BE, AND IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE A MAJOR ACCESS POINT.
EXACTLY, AND WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE AT THOSE ACCESS POINTS.
THERE WON'T BE ANY WAY FOR THEM UNLESS THEY TRY TO CLIMB THAT GATE.
NO, THAT FENCE IS PRETTY TALL, RIGHT? MIKE CAN DO IT. MIKE CAN'T.
MIKE'S TOO FAT, [CHUCKLING] BUT I THINK IT'S SUCH A GOOD IDEA, AND, YEAH, WE MAYBE COULD PUT UP BIG TENTS, BUT IF IT'S A LIGHT RAIN, IT'LL BE FINE.
IF IT'S A DOWNPOUR, IT IT WON'T HAPPEN.
PROBABLY WILL. COME AND WE'LL BE IN THE BUILDING.
WHAT DO YOU HOW MANY TICKETS ARE YOU GOING TO SELL, OR DO YOU HAVE A CAP ON THE TICKETS OR.
TYPICALLY WE HAVE NOT CAPPED THE TICKETS.
WE'VE HAD AN AVERAGE OF ANYWHERE FROM 8 TO 1000 PEOPLE THAT RUN THROUGH THERE, BUT THE THING ABOUT THOSE, THEY DON'T STAY, THEY COME IN, THEY EAT, SHOP, THE VENDORS, GRAB SOMETHING AND OUT LIKE IT'S A BIG FLOW, AND BY 1:00.
YOU KNOW, 1:30. THAT'S ABOUT IT.
SO IT'S SCHEDULED FROM 11 TO [INAUDIBLE].
YEAH, BY THREE WE'RE PACKING UP.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY. DO YOU WANT ME MAKE THIS ONE? YES. YEAH, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OKTOBERFEST TO BE HELD OCTOBER 26TH OF 2024, FROM 11 A.M.
IT WILL BE A RAIN OR SHINE EVENT.
I SECOND THAT MOTION, SO MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE.
THIS TEMPORARY LICENSE FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE'S OKTOBERFEST.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. THANK YOU GUYS.
HAVE FUN. SO THE TASTINGS ARE GOING TO BE UNDER THE BEER.
IS THAT A SEPARATE. YOU GOT A SEPARATE APPLICATION FOR TASTINGS.
SO YOU NEED TO DO THAT ONE TOO OKAY.
WE'VE GOT A SEPARATE ONE ON HERE.
I DID SUBMIT THAT RIGHT THERE.
DO YOU HAVE. OH, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY I DIDN'T.
OH I PUT IT TOGETHER AS OKTOBERFEST BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAME EVENT.
THAT'S FINE. OKAY, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. THEY MAKE ANOTHER MOTION BEFORE YOU DO.
[01:20:02]
TRACY, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT CHARGING FOR TASTINGS.YOU CAN'T CHARGE FOR TASTINGS.
NO, WE'RE NOT CHARGING FOR THE TASTING.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO, BUT THAT'S STILL CHARGING.
CHARGING FOR IT. THAT'S STILL CHARGING.
SO I CAN'T CHARGING. SO MY PRICE IS MY PRICE.
SO NO WORRIES. THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THE TASTINGS DON'T THEY CARRY A LICENSE.
DON'T THEY CARRY THEIR LICENSE.
THEY CAN USE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY UNDER THEIR STATE LICENSE TO DO CERTAIN EVENTS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO APPLY FOR IT THIS TIME.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A TEST RUN.
IF IT DOESN'T GO GREAT, WE'RE BACK TO MAC AND CHEESE.
IF IT GOES GREAT AND THEY NEED TO CARRY THE LICENSE, WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION.
I CAN ALWAYS COME EARLIER IN THE YEAR AND DISCUSS WHAT WE THINK.
JUST REMEMBER SINCE IT'S UNDER YOU'RE THE LICENSE HOLDER FOR THAT TASTING, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR BREWERIES UNDERSTAND THE TASTING REGS FOR CAROLINE COUNTY AND ARE FOLLOWING THEM BECAUSE THERE'S ANY ISSUES.
IT'S ON YOU. EXACTLY, I GOT YOU I'LL MAKE SURE I'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND SO THAT THEY KNOW THE AMOUNT THAT THEY CAN SERVE FOR TASTINGS, HOW MANY EACH PERSON CAN HAVE AND ALL OF THAT.
MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR WITH THE BREWERIES THAT YOU HAVE THERE, BECAUSE IT COULD BE DIFFERENT IN OTHER COUNTIES, SINCE I KNOW THEY'RE COMING FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTY, COMING FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTY, BUT I DO THINK GARRETT BAKER IS OUR ADVOCATE AND WILL BE THERE, AND I THINK HE'S VERY GOOD AT AT MANAGING THOSE THINGS.
HE KNOWS ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO I'LL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THAT INFORMATION.
OKAY. TREY, YOU GOT ANYTHING? NO, I'VE DEALT WITH BOTH OF THOSE BREWERIES BEFORE, AND THE TEN EYCK'S VERY, VERY GOOD ABOUT WHAT THEY DO.
BIG TRUCK I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, SO, AND YOU'VE HAD GREAT, GREAT THINGS IN THE PAST, SO I'LL TRY TO VERIFY EVERYTHING OKAY SO THAT I MAKE SURE I'M COMPLIANT.
SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CAROLINE COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THEIR OKTOBERFEST, FOR AN APPLICATION FOR BEER AND WINE, ON PREMISE TASTING, SAMPLING, LICENSE CLASS BWTS FOR THE OCTOBER FEST THAT IS BEING HELD OCTOBER 26TH, 2024, FROM 11 A.M.
TO 3 P.M. I SECOND THAT MOTION.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS BEER, WINE TASTING AND SAMPLING LICENSE FOR THE OKTOBERFEST FOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
HEY, TRACY, I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT THE OTHER STUFF FOR [INAUDIBLE] BY END OF DAY, OKAY? OKAY. YEP. ALL RIGHT.
THANKS, HONEY. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE SAINT BENEDICT'S CHURCH.
[St. Benedict's Church- Temporary License- Spurs & Sparkles]
SPURS AND SPARKLES FOR JUNE 8TH, 2024.BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, I NEED YOU TO STAND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
WE'LL DO THE OATH. GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY AND DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE IN THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
[INAUDIBLE]. 516 DENTON ROAD, FEDERALSBURG.
THANK YOU. NOW YOU MAY BE SEATED.
SO, MR. LOWE WITH SAINT BENEDICT'S CHURCH HAS AN APPLICATION IN FOR AN EVENT ON JUNE 8TH.
SPURS AND SPARKLES A FUNDRAISER.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST EXPLAIN YOUR.
PRETTY MUCH THE EVENT IS THE SAME AS OTHERS THAT WE'VE DONE THERE.
DO I HAVE A BAND? THE JONES BOYS WILL BE THERE.
WE'LL HAVE AN AUCTION, LIVE AND SILENT.
THE BEER AND WINE MAYBE A MIXED DRINK OR TWO, BUT NOT MUCH.
ALL THE PROCEEDS FROM THE LIQUOR WILL GO AS PART OF THE FUNDRAISER.
WE ARE CHARGING $25 A TICKET BECAUSE EVERYBODY GETS A DINNER SERVED AND IT'S FROM.
5 TO 9 IS THE TIME, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
OH, YES. WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE IN OUR PARISH THAT ARE TIPS QUALIFIED.
[01:25:03]
PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR OF THEM WILL BE THERE.NOTHING'S GOING TO GO OUTSIDE.
YOU HAD ANY ISSUES? NOPE. I KNOW THEY'LL DO GREAT BECAUSE I TRAINED ALL OF THEM.
[CHUCKLING] OH, NO, AND THEY HAD GREAT QUESTIONS.
SO THEY KNOW THE RIGHT THINGS.
SO IS THERE GOING TO BE UNDER AGE AT THE DINNER OR IS IT JUST AN OVER 21 DINNER? HAVE MANY KIDS SHOW UP, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SAYING ON THE FLIER WE PUT KIDS ARE FREE UNDER 12, RIGHT.
THEY FEEL THAT SOMEBODY IS NOT OLD ENOUGH.
WE DON'T HAVE WRISTBANDS OR ANYTHING, BUT WE CAN RECOGNIZE WE KNOW PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME ARE FROM THE PARISH.
SO WE KNOW HOW OLD THESE PEOPLE ARE.
YEAH. SO IT JUST IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER.
NO PROBLEM. JUST GIVE ME QUESTIONS.
I HAVE ONE, THIS IS I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT BASICALLY EVERYTHING'S COMING FROM A DISTRIBUTOR, CORRECT? AS FAR AS ALCOHOL, EVERYTHING'S BEING BOUGHT AT A LIQUOR STORE.
OKAY. YEAH, BUT DO THEY THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THAT.
NO, NO, I KNOW THAT, BUT JUST WANT THAT.
THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A TEMPORARY APPLICATION FOR SAINT BENEDICT'S CHURCH TO SERVE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON JUNE THE 8TH, 2024, FROM 5 TO 9 P.M.
AT THE SAINT BENEDICT'S FAMILY LIFE CENTER, AND YOU'VE HEARD THE CONDITION.
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT THE END OF THE EVENT.
ANYTHING ELSE? I SECOND THE MOTION.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. THANK YOU SIR.
YEAH. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET IT.
YEP. I'LL EMAIL YOU OR CALL YOU WHEN IT'S READY.
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE [INAUDIBLE].
[Discussion- Chesapeake Culinary Center- Multiple Event Alcohol Storage for license holders other than fire departments]
I'M GOOD. I TEXTED HIM THAT.OKAY. THANK YOU. THE CULINARY CENTER FOR THE CULINARY CENTER, I GUESS.
I GUESS THAT'S WHY DAVID'S BEEN HANGING OUT THE WHOLE TIME.
WE THOUGHT SHE JUST CAME TO SUPPORT TRACY.
I THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO.
JUST COME TO SEE WHAT WE WERE DOING.
YEAH. DON'T YOU BE SWORN IN FOR THIS.
YEAH. SO, BETH, CAN YOU HELP ME A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. SO THE CULINARY CENTER HOLDS A MULTI EVENT LICENSE EVERY YEAR, AND MOST OF THEIR EVENTS ARE AT THE CULINARY CENTER, AND THEY WANT TO START A DISCUSSION TO POSSIBLY CHANGE THE LEGISLATION TO ALLOW THEM TO KEEP THEIR LIQUOR ON SITE AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS DO.
SO, I MEAN, YOU JUST DISCUSSED THAT WITH SAINT BENEDICT'S, HOW THEY'LL HAVE TO REMOVE IT AFTERWARDS.
SO WHENEVER WE HOLD A FUNDRAISER, OBVIOUSLY WE SPEND MONEY ON THAT ALCOHOL, AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY AT ALL WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE ABLE TO KEEP IT UNTIL THE NEXT ONE, INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING IT DISAPPEAR, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MULTIPLE MULTI-EVENT, LICENSE ONLY FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE ALLOWED, ARE ALLOWED TO KEEP AND STORE THEIR ALCOHOL.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GET THEM ALL THE EVENT LICENSE OR.
YES, WE HAVE JUST STARTED DOING THAT.
[01:30:01]
STORE THEIR ALCOHOL. IS THAT ON THE STATE LEGISLATION ON THE STATE END OR IS THAT ON OUR END? SO JUST A LITTLE HISTORICAL BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE SOUGHT A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE TO CREATE THE MULTI-EVENT LICENSE FOR CAROLINE COUNTY.PRIOR TO THAT, ORGANIZATIONS COULD ONLY GET ONE DAY.
THAT WAS IT, AND THE FIRE COMPANIES CAME TO US AND SAID 12 LICENSES A YEAR JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR US.
WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO PICK OR CHOOSE OUR HAUL RENTALS, YOU KNOW, BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ATTEND AND HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO SELL, AND THEY WANTED THE ABILITY TO HAVE MORE LICENSES, AND THAT'S WHEN WE DECIDED THAT MAYBE WE COULD DO SOME SORT OF MULTI EVENT LICENSE THAT THEY COULD, INSTEAD OF GETTING AN INDIVIDUAL LICENSE EACH TIME, THEY COULD GET ONE LICENSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
RIGHT NOW THEY CAN DO UP TO 40 AND THEY'RE 1 TO 10 OR UP TO TEN, UP TO 20, UP TO 30 AND UP TO 40.
THEY CAN PURCHASE ONE APPLICATION, ONE FEE.
THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE BOARD OF EACH OF THEIR EVENT DATES, AND O BVIOUSLY WHEN YOU START ALLOWING UP TO 40 EVENTS, YOU KNOW THAT'S ALCOHOL YOU'RE PURCHASING, NOT JUST FOR 5 OR 6 EVENTS.
SO THE FIRE COMPANY SAID WE NEED THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO STORE ALCOHOL AS PART OF THIS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO 40 EVENTS, WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY ALCOHOL AND DISPOSE OF IT AFTER EACH EVENT, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AT THAT TIME.
WAS ON THE FENCE ABOUT SUPPORTING OUR LEGISLATION FOR THE MULTI EVENT AND ALLOWING THIS STORAGE.
SO THE COMPROMISE IN WORKING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE AND GETTING THAT STORAGE PROVISION IS THEY WERE GOING TO RESTRICT IT ONLY TO THE FIRE COMPANIES BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY WERE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE HOLDING THE LARGER NUMBER OF EVENTS, AND WE HAD TO PUT PROVISIONS IN THERE ABOUT IT HAS TO REMAIN UNDER LOCK AND KEY.
YOU HAVE TO DO A PRE INVENTORY, A POST INVENTORY, JUST TO ASSURE THAT NO ALCOHOL IS LEAVING THE BAR AREA IN BETWEEN THE EVENTS AND THAT THE ALCOHOL IS ONLY FOR THOSE EVENTS.
SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD COULD NOT SEEK LEGISLATION NEXT SESSION TO EXPAND ON THAT, TO ALLOW ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT QUALIFIES FOR A MULTI EVENT LICENSE TO DO THAT.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ONE DAYS AND THE MULTI EVENTS IS ONE DAY.
SO FOR INSTANCE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THEY GO ALL OVER THE PLACE HOLDING THEIR EVENTS.
WITH THE CULINARY CENTER NOW HAVING A MULTI EVENT.
THEY'RE HAVING THEIR EVENTS AT THE FIRE HALL.
SO YES IT KIND OF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF THEY QUALIFY TO GET THE MULTI EVENT LICENSE, WHY SHOULDN'T THEY QUALIFY TO STORE IT STORAGE. RIGHT. I THINK THAT WAS THE GIVE AND TAKE AT THE CRITERIA TO GET THE LICENSE.
RIGHT. I THINK THAT WAS THE GIVE AND TAKE BATTLING THROUGH THAT LEGISLATIVE SESSION BECAUSE IT WAS IF THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE DIDN'T SUPPORT IT, WE WEREN'T GETTING IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE. SO WE HAD SOME GIVE AND TAKE THERE TO GET IT APPROVED, AND THAT'S THAT WAS WHAT WE COMPROMISED ON AT THE TIME.
NOW, AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
DO YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT WHATSOEVER BUT WHAT WHO ELSE WILL THIS OPEN THIS UP TO SAY, WELL, YOU DID IT FOR THEM.
WHY CAN'T NOW WE BE ANYBODY? WHAT WOULD BE ANYBODY THAT WOULD QUALIFY? NOT JUST ANYBODY QUALIFIES FOR THAT MULTI-EVENT LICENSE.
NOW THEY QUALIFY FOR I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OPENING.
SO IF YOU WERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE NON PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT GENERALLY COME BEFORE YOU FOR LICENSES THAT MAY HOLD MORE THAN ONE AT THE SAME LOCATION, I CAN THINK OF ADKINS ARBORETUM.
THEY PROBABLY HAVE FOUR EVENTS A YEAR.
THEY DON'T GENERALLY GO OFF SITE AND HOST AN EVENT.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHO ELSE MIGHT BE ONE.
ANYBODY ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF? PRETTY MUCH ALL KEEP YOUR SAME.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE. WELL, SAINT BENEDICT'S CHURCH, FOR INSTANCE.
I MEAN, THEY COULD BE AN ORGANIZATION THAT COULD QUALIFY.
THEY DON'T GENERALLY HOST EVENTS OTHER THAN AT THEIR CHURCH LOCATION.
SO THOSE WOULD BE THE TYPE OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT I COULD SEE.
[01:35:05]
WHERE THEY WOULD NOT GENERALLY DO EVENTS OFF THEIR PREMISES.DO YOU HAVE A PLACE YOU CAN LOCK THIS UP? AND YOU HAVE YOU HAVE UNDERAGE YOUTH IN THERE, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE CERTAIN PART OF THE DAY.
IT'S NOT A SCHOOL SYSTEM BUILDING.
THEY PARTICIPATE IN WITH THE TOP FLOOR IS MAINLY JUST FOR EVENTS, AND THEN THERE'S, LIKE, A LITTLE OFFICE THAT EVEN GOES OFF OF THAT AND UP A LITTLE HIGHER THAT THEY PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW IS THERE, BUT WE DO HAVE A CAGE IN THERE FOR LOCKING THINGS UP.
IS SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHO HAS THE KEY, AND TO BE SURE THAT.
WE HAVE TO DISCUSS IT, I GUESS, ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT I CAN SEE THAT AS TO ME, THAT'S AN ISSUE WHERE YOU'VE GOT YOUTH IN THE BUILDING. [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE THE SAME THING WITH THE FIRE COMPANIES NOW.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE UNDERAGE MEMBERS MEMBERS.
WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEY DO, OBVIOUSLY, AND GOLDSBORO IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT TO DO.
LIKE THEY'VE NARROWED IT DOWN REALLY NICE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IF THEY QUALIFY TO GET THE MULTI-EVENT LICENSE, WHY SHOULDN'T THEY QUALIFY TO BUILD A STORE THE ALCOHOL? SURE. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IF THEY CAN THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET 40 EVENTS A YEAR.
I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF EVENTS.
IT'S VERY HARD. I MEAN, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ANY ORGANIZATION TO SAY, WELL, WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO SELL THIS MUCH OF THIS AND THIS MUCH OF THAT WITHOUT OVERBUYING TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING WHAT TO DO WITH IT OR WE WHAT WE DID LAST TIME WAS WE UNDER BOUGHT LIKE THREE TIMES IN A ROW.
YES, WITHIN TWO HOURS, AND IT'S ALSO NOT COST PROHIBITIVE EITHER.
FOR NUMBER ONE, IT'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
YEAH. OR LIQUOR FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN BUY A LARGER QUANTITY IN ANTICIPATION OF DOING A NUMBER OF EVENTS, THEN YOU KNOW, THE COST IS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR YOU THAN JUST BUYING ONE.
EVERYBODY JUST SIT AROUND TALKING.
THE LAST THE ROCKFISH DINNER THAT I WENT TO, THEY JUST CASUALLY, BUT THEY WERE DRINKING.
WE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM, AND THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WENT WITH UNDERAGE.
WHAT WOULD THE WHAT WOULD WHAT DO YOU SEE AS WE HAVE TO RUN THIS UP THROUGH LEGISLATION? I'M AFRAID SO. I MEAN, THIS IS CRYSTAL HAS CLEARLY DESCRIBED THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS LAST TIME IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT THAT YOU WOULD BE ASKING FOR, AND YOU COULD LIMIT IT TO, FOR EXAMPLE, NONPROFITS STORAGE AT THE SAME LOCATION.
WHY WOULD SAY THEY MAYBE STEWART WOULD HAVE THE SAME REGULATIONS THAT THE FIRE COMPANY IS, AND MAYBE YOU JUST LIFT THE EXEMPTION, THE PROVISION THAT IT IT'S ONLY FOR FIRE COMPANIES.
IT'S NOW AVAILABLE TO ANYONE THAT HAS THAT LICENSE, BUT NONPROFITS.
IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO NONPROFITS.
WELL, THAT LICENSE CURRENTLY IS LIMITED TO NONPROFITS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPECIFY THAT.
NO, RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST THIS LICENSE IS AVAILABLE ONLY FOR FIRE COMPANIES CAN STORE.
SO NOW YOU JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT ONLY FIRE COMPANIES.
IT SAYS IT HAS TO BE UNDER LOCK AND KEY IN AN AREA THAT THE BOARD APPROVES.
SO YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE AREA THAT THEY WOULD UTILIZE TO STORE IT.
SO IF TREY COMES IN IN BETWEEN EVENTS, HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.
PRE AND POST INVENTORY AND THEY SHOULD MATCH.
IF YOU HAD SIX CASES OF BEER AND YOU SOLD TWO.
RIGHT. YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE INVENTORY WAS JUST TO ENSURE THAT NOBODY WAS JUST RANDOMLY DRINKING IN BETWEEN EVENTS, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE CONCERN OF THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IS HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONTROL THE ALCOHOL BETWEEN EVENTS? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WHAT DROVE THIS, THIS CRITERIA THAT WAS PUT INTO IT.
WE HAVE FIRE DEPARTMENTS RETURNING ALCOHOL TO STORES BEFORE.
SO THE NUMBERS NEVER MATCHED UP.
SO LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
YEAH, AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP RECORDS LIKE A PERMANENT LICENSE HOLDER WOULD HAVE TO.
[01:40:07]
YOU GOT TO KEEP. SO RECORDS IS YOUR OBVIOUSLY YOUR STORAGE IS KIND OF SOMEWHAT LIMITED ANYWAY.SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO SAY WELL WE'RE GOING TO DO 20 EVENTS THIS YEAR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BUY 12 CASES OF WINE, AND YOU'RE KIND OF GOING TO LOOK AT IT ON AN EVENT BY EVENT THING AND GO, WELL, WE HAD THREE BOTTLES OF WINE LEFT AND 24 BEERS, AND WE'RE GOING TO STICK THEM IN UNDER LOCK AND KEY, AND THEN WE DON'T NEED QUITE AS MUCH FOR THE NEXT EVENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE END UP WITH TWO CASES OF BEER LEFT, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RETURN IT OR MAKE IT DISAPPEAR, WE COULD JUST HOLD ON TO IT AND CUT DOWN ON THE COST OF THE NEXT EVENT.
THE ONLY THING YOU'D HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF IS WHAT YOU'RE SELLING, AND THEN SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO JUST PUT THIS INTO, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE WE HAD SOMEBODY MAKE IN JACK DANIEL'S BARBECUE SAUCE.
I ALSO ASSUME THIS HAS TO GO TO THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE IT CAN GO TO LEGISLATION.
SO GET SOME HELP IN GETTING THIS WRITTEN SO THAT THEN IT CAN BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
YEAH, I THINK IT'LL BE GET THEIR APPROVAL BEFORE WE EVEN GO ANY FURTHER.
I MEAN, TREY'S DONE A NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS THERE AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS. THAT'S LESS DETAILED.
YEAH. DOES THERE NEED TO BE A MOTION MADE TO CONTINUE THIS OR NOT JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT IF THE BOARD IS IN SUPPORT OF IT, THEN ONCE WE GET TO THAT LEGISLATIVE PERIOD COME THIS FALL, WE'RE REALLY LATE SUMMER.
WE SHOULD BE READY BY MAYBE BETH, I WOULD JUST PUT A REMINDER ON YOUR AUGUST MEETING FOLDER TO BRING THIS BACK UP SO THAT WE'RE READY FOR USUALLY LIKE SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER IS WHEN THEY MEET WITH THE DELEGATION.
IT'S USUALLY OCTOBER THIS YEAR.
IT WAS A LITTLE EARLIER THAN I ANTICIPATED THIS YEAR.
SO I WOULD IF SUMMER MAY GO TOO.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED THAT EMOTION OR OR YOU CAN WAIT TILL AUGUST TO DO THE MOTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER YOU NEED WANT US TO DO.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST IN THE DISCUSSION PHASE, RIGHT.
YEAH I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
WE'LL DO A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK FOR THAT EXEMPTION.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
JUST KEEP MAKING GOOD BURGERS.
YEP. WITH YOU GUYS DOING CATERING HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ASKED LIKE FOR CATERING AND ALCOHOL FOR.
YES, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED AND I HAVE A NOTE HERE TO ASK ABOUT THAT, BUT HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT DOING A CATERERS LICENSE? A CATERERS LICENSE? I WONDERED WHETHER YOU GUYS THAT'S THROUGH THE STATE.
CORRECT. [INAUDIBLE] USED TO HAVE ONE, CORRECT? WHICH WOULD BE THIS APPLICATION.
THE PUB HAD TO DO FOOD AND ALCOHOL AT THE SAME TIME WHEN THEY DID THE FAIR.
THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH US OKAY.
SO IF YOU WERE TO GET A STATEWIDE LICENSE AND YOU CATER IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, YOU'D HAVE TO NOTIFY MONTGOMERY COUNTY LIQUOR BOARD OR QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY'S LIQUOR BOARD, JUST SO THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE CATERING ALCOHOL IN THEIR JURISDICTION WITH US.
RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, MOST OF IT I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU CAN YOU CAN DO TWO WAYS.
[01:45:06]
THAT GIVES YOU THREE CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES.WELL, THAT'S ALL IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, RIGHT? DEFINE THAT ONE, AND THAT WOULD BE A LIMITED IT MIGHT BE THE SAME APPLICATION, I'M NOT SURE, BUT YEAH, THIS ONE SAYS STATEWIDE.
SO I'LL HAVE TO CHECK THAT ONE OUT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'LL NEED.
YEAH AS LONG AS THE POPULATION OF THE THREE COUNTIES DOESN'T EXCEED A MILLION.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING THAT HERE ON THE SHORE WITH OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
SURE. THANK YOU LONGER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO MAKE AN ALCOHOL DISAPPEAR.
YEAH. SKETCHY, BUT NOT IN THE BAR.
[Inspector's Report]
WORKING WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.OCEAN CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT TALBOT, DORCHESTER COUNTY TALKING TO THEIR INSPECTORS, WICOMICO COUNTY KEEPING TRACK OF WICOMICO COUNTY, WHERE THEY JUST GOT LEGISLATION TO GET RID OF THE DISPENSARY, BASICALLY BEEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THAT AND JUST HELPING OUT DIFFERENT EVENTS AND ONCE AGAIN, TIPS IS BEING TIPS.
NEVER GOT A CALL, BUT I'LL BE CALLING THEM.
YEAH, IT'S THERE'S A RUMOR THAT A CADET WAS TRYING TO MAKE PURCHASES IN PRESTON, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATE POLICE DOING THAT.
I MEAN, IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE IT WAS ARGUED THAT.
YEAH. NO, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
WELL, I MEAN, ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.
[Board Administrator's Report]
YES. SO A COUPLE PAST EVENTS, RED LIGHT LIQUORS HAD A WINE TASTING MAY 17TH.THE LEGION JUST HAD THEIR CAR SHOW YESTERDAY.
GOLDSBORO FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HAVING A RETIREMENT PARTY.
TODAY, TONIGHT AND DENTON'S ANNUAL CASH BASH IS COMING UP JUNE 1ST.
THAT'S THE SALON AND THE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR TASTINGS.
SO HERE IS AND AGAIN, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE WENT AHEAD AND REVISED THE APPLICATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHANGES SO THAT IT'S BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AND I KIND OF THOUGHT WHILE WE'RE MAKING THE CHANGE, IT WAS GOOD TO JUST REEVALUATE OUR OLD APPLICATION, AND OUR OLD APPLICATION JUST SAID THEY WERE CERTIFYING THAT WE'VE READ THE REGULATIONS AND AGREE TO ADHERE TO THEM.
SO I THOUGHT, IF WHY NOT? WHILE WE'RE MAKING CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION, GO AHEAD AND PUT THE REQUIREMENTS RIGHT IN THE APPLICATION SO THAT THEY CLEARLY KNOW WHAT WHAT IT IS.
STEWART IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY, CAN YOU JUST GIVE IT A RUN THROUGH AND MAYBE THE NOTARY SECTION? BECAUSE WHAT I WANT TO CAPTURE IS THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THESE RULES AND YOU AGREE TO FOLLOW THEM.
SO WHEN THERE IS A VIOLATION, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT, AND I ALSO AMENDED WE HAD FIVE DAY NOTIFICATION BEFORE, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN STATE LAW OR LOCAL RULES AND REGS THAT SAY THERE'S A TIME LIMIT.
IT'S JUST BEEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE DEEMED SUFFICIENT.
SOME DAYS THERE'S FIVE DAY NOTICES.
SO WE THOUGHT SEVEN DAYS WAS BETTER THAN FIVE.
HAS RED LIGHT IF THEY STARTED DELIVERING.
[01:50:07]
YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE UP.WHEN ARE THEY UP? FOUR MONTHS.
FOR SIX MONTHS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK, RIGHT? OR IS IT THREE MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, THREE MONTHS? I THINK THAT'S JULY.
OKAY. MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I'M SORRY, AND THEN JUST ANOTHER REMINDER.
THE OCTOBER MEETING DATE IS THE 20.
WE'VE MOVED THAT TO THE WEEK BEFORE OCTOBER 16TH.
SO LET ME. WHEN IS OUR NEXT MEETING? NEXT MONTH, JUNE 4TH.
WEDNESDAY OF JUNE. I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T RESIST.
JUST IT WAS GETTING READY TO COME OUT OF ME, SO IT WAS THE EASIEST.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I SECOND THAT IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS FOR THURSDAY, MAY 23RD, 2024 AT 11:21 A.M..
ALL APPROVE? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.