[Dr. Derek Simmons, Superintendent & Bill Mengal, Director of Operations, Caroline County Public School: Presentation of Fiscal Year 2025 Board of Education Budget]

PRESENTATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BOARD OF EDUCATION BUDGET. DR. SIMMONS [OVERLAPPING]

>> GOOD MORNING. YOU HAVE JUST ME THIS MORNING, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE EARLIER.

NO EXCUSE FOR IT, SO I APOLOGIZE [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WE MOVED ON TO OTHER STUFF. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE KATHLEEN [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE DIDN'T WAIT FOR YOU [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]

>> GOOD. COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THE FY '25 BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

IT WAS APPROVED BY OUR BOARD AT THE JUNE 18TH WORK SESSION LAST WEEK.

WHAT YOU'LL NOTE ON THE BUDGET SUMMARY IT'S BEFORE YOU, BUDGET SUMMARY DOES REFLECT THE COUNTY'S LOCAL SHARES, WE MADE THE MOVE FROM MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT TO LOCAL SHARE CALCULATION THIS YEAR.

YOU ALSO SEE THE UNRESTRICTED STATE AID INCREASE BASED ON THE FORMULA.

WE HAD A GOOD YEAR WITH INTEREST REVENUE WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THERE, THE $185,000 INCREASE IN INTEREST REVENUE.

NEW REVENUES FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THIS YEAR ARE JUST SHY OF $4 MILLION COMING IN.

IF YOU LOOK DOWN AND MUCH OF THIS WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR WORK SESSION IN JANUARY WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, COST OF DOING BUSINESS CONTINUES TO BE WHAT DRIVES MOST OF THE BUDGET WITH THE COST INCREASES IN ORDER TO GET OUR RATIFICATION OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH OUR TEACHERS ASSOCIATION AND TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CAREER LADDER TO REACH APPROVAL ON THAT.

THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE SALARY ITEM AS WELL AS THE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY IN PLACE WITH OUR SUPPORT SERVICES ASSOCIATION, AND OUR ADMINISTRATOR ASSOCIATION HAD A SIMILAR INCREASE TO THE TEACHER ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR AGREEMENT.

NOW ITS GOING DOWN, THE NEXT BIGGEST COST FOR US IS THE HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE ESMEC HEALTH INSURANCE ALLIANCE THIS YEAR.

THERE'S STILL A 5% INCREASE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT TOUGH TO CHEW OF $500,000 INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE.

BUT THAT WAS BETTER THAN MANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES.

WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS YOU'LL NOTICE IN THERE, AGAIN, THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS INCREASES, DUES ARE GOING UP FOR SOME OF OUR PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, OUR MABE INSURANCE THAT WE CARRY THROUGH MARYLAND ASSOCIATION OF BOARDS OF ED, IT GOES UP AS WELL.

TRANSPORTATION LINE ITEM INCREASING, THIS REFLECTS THE CONTRACT THAT WE AGREED TO WITH OUR CONTRACTED BUS DRIVERS LAST YEAR, TRUING THAT LINE ITEM UP.

SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS IS JUST BRINGING THAT LINE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE INCREASE OF SALARIES THAT OCCURRED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

OTHER OF NOTE, I GUESS, IS THE TEACHER PENSION COSTS CONTINUE TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT EACH YEAR, AND TRYING TO TRUE THAT PART UP AND AS WELL WITH SUBSTITUTES.

ONE HERE LOOKS LIKE TWO NEW ADDITIONS FOR POSITIONS.

THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY NEW POSITIONS, THEY'RE POSITIONS THAT WERE FUNDED THROUGH EITHER THE MARYLAND LEADS GRANT, WHICH EXPIRES IN SEPTEMBER, OR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN SR3, WHICH EXPIRES IN SEPTEMBER AS WELL, AND THAT IS KEEPING THE THIRD ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL.

NORTH CAROLINA HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS GETTING CLOSE TO 1,300 STUDENTS, HAD THREE ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM REDUCED IT TO TWO ABOUT THE TIME COVID HIT WHEN WE WERE EXPECTING A SIGNIFICANT DOWNTURN.

WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THE ART MONEY TO COME THROUGH, SO WE WERE ABLE TO ADD THE POSITION BACK IN THROUGH THE GRANT MONEY AND NOW THAT THE GRANT WILL BE EXPIRING, WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT IN THE LOCAL BUDGET.

THEN WITH MOVING TO THE ONE-TO-ONE, WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH DEVICES AND LAPTOPS,

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WE SWITCHED OUR MODEL OF TECH SUPPORT OVER THAT COVID PERIOD, AND WE'VE LEARNED THAT HAVING A TECH SUPPORT PERSON AVAILABLE ON EVERY CAMPUS WAS A BUNCH BETTER MODEL THAN HAVING A CENTRALIZED MODEL AND LITERALLY SENDING PEOPLE OUT TO THE BUILDINGS.

MILEAGE WAS KILLING US. WE'VE STAFFED UP TO HAVE A BETTER RETURN ON KEEPING DEVICES MOVING, KEEPING THINGS WORKING, BUT ALSO IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.

THIS REFLECTS KEEPING THOSE THREE TECH POSITIONS AS POSITIONS WITH US MOVING FORWARD.

WE DID HIT IN THE SALARY LAPSE A LITTLE BIT.

AS YOU'LL NOTICE IN PART 3 OF THE REDUCTIONS, WE ARE USING A LITTLE BIT OF SALARY LAPSE TO HELP BUDGET THE LINE ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE INCREASES.

SALARY LAPSE, OF COURSE, COMES FROM THOSE RETIRING IN MORE EXPENSIVE POSITIONS AND REPLACING THEM, YOU TYPICALLY END UP GETTING PEOPLE COMING IN WITH LESS EXPERIENCE, SO YOU GET SOME SAVINGS THERE.

BUT WE FEEL THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT BUDGET-WISE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND WE APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONER'S SUPPORT.

>> THANK YOU. MR. PORTER [OVERLAPPING]

>> DO THESE NUMBERS REFLECT ANY INCREASE IN CENTRAL OFFICE POSITIONS?

>> THESE NUMBERS DO NOT.

WE BASICALLY RECLASSIFIED SOME POSITIONS AT CENTRAL OFFICE BUT WE HAVE NOT ADDED ANY ADDITIONAL CENTRAL OFFICE POSITIONS BOTH AT CENTRAL OFFICE AND SPORT SERVICES BUILDING.

WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS THIS YEAR, SO WE'VE TAKEN THAT OPPORTUNITY TO RESTAFF AND RE-MOVE POSITIONS AROUND.

>> SO THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY INCREASE IN SALARIES AT THE CENTRAL OFFICE?

>> IN THE OVERALL DOLLAR AMOUNT? NO. WE'RE GOING TO COME IN LESS.

>> YESTERDAY, I LISTENED TO A INTERESTING CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BLUEPRINT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO GETTING TO THE 60,000 STARTING SALARY FOR TEACHERS?

>> WE FEEL WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY TO GET THERE WITHIN THE TIMELINE ALLOTTED, IT BASICALLY IS ABOUT TWO MORE FISCAL YEARS.

WE'VE GOT TO BE THERE BY THE START OF FY '27.

WE HAVE OUR STARTING TEACHER SALARY GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, A LITTLE OVER 55,000, AND WE FEEL WE CAN GET THERE, PART OF IT THROUGH OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH OUR TEACHERS ASSOCIATION, WE WILL REACH THE NEW SALARY OFF THE CAREER LADDER NOT OFF OF THE TRADITIONAL SCALE.

OUR TEACHERS WILL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SCALES.

THEY CAN REMAIN ON THE TRADITIONAL.

FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN TEACHING CAN ELECT TO GO TO THE CAREER LADDER OR REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE, BUT ALL OF NEW STAFF, ALL NEW HIRED WILL START ON THE CAREER LADDER.

SO THAT WILL BE THE SCALE THAT WE GET TO 60, AND WE DO BELIEVE WE WILL GET THERE.

>> CAREER LADDER'S NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION.

>> NATIONAL BOARD, AND IF THERE'S NOT A NATIONAL BOARD, IT CAN BE A MASTER'S OR EQUIVALENT.

THAT'S BASED ON THE BLUEPRINT, THAT'S THE SCALE WHERE ALL SCHOOL SYSTEMS WILL MOVE TOWARDS IF IT REMAINS THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN RELATION TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS?

>> WE ARE ON PAR WITH STARTING TEACHER SALARIES, WITH NEIGHBORING SYSTEMS. WE ARE FALLING BEHIND IN ADMINISTRATOR PAY.

>> YOU'RE FALLING BEHIND ON ADMINISTRATIVE PAYS? [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE'RE FALLING BEHIND ON ADMINISTRATOR PAY, YES.

>> WHICH WOULD BE PRINCIPAL [OVERLAPPING]

>> PRINCIPAL, ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS, SUPERVISORS, DIRECTORS, COORDINATORS.

THIS YEAR, WE'VE LOST A LITTLE PACE SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT NEXT YEAR WHILE WE'RE DOING OUR SUPPORT STAFF AGREEMENT AS WELL.

BLUEPRINT DOES A GREAT JOB OF PROPPING UP TEACHERS, BUT IT LEAVES OUT THE TWO OTHER LEGS OF THE SCHOOL FOR A SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING NEXT YEAR.

>> BUT YOU'RE COMING UNDER THIS YEAR ON SALARIES IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> WE'RE DOING OKAY RIGHT NOW ON SALARIES.

IT'S THE SCALE ITSELF WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT.

>> I GUESS I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW YOU'RE HANDLING BUNCHING WITH WHERE TEACHERS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME MAKING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, THEN YOU BRING IN A STARTING TEACHER, HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THAT?

>> YOU BASICALLY SET A TIDE THAT RAISES ALL SHIPS.

AS THE CAREER LADDER INCREASES AT STARTING SALARY, WE START ELIMINATING STEPS ON THE TRADITIONAL SCALE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RISING AS WELL.

WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIFT THE WHOLE SCALE BY THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF FROST.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPED US THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE DID, AND THE RESPONSE FROM OUR ASSOCIATION WAS REALLY STRONG, WE'VE HAD THREE YEARS WHERE PEOPLE DID NOT GET A STEP, AND THEN THIS YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO RECTIFY THAT WITH OUR STAFF.

NOT EVERYBODY RECEIVED THREE, IT DEPENDED ON WHAT YEAR YOU WERE FROZEN AT WHAT POINT IN TIME, BUT WE LEVELED EVERYBODY BACK TO THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE,

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MATCH THEIR THEIR INCREMENT, WHICH WAS A SIGNIFICANT STICKING POINT FOR MANY STAFF, WHICH I GET, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT TO HELP GET THE CAREER LADDER MOVING AND THEN TO HELP SO YOU DON'T HAVE FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN HERE 19 YEARS GETTING PAID ON 19 WHEN THEY SHOULD BE ON 21, SO IT HELPS KEEP THAT GAP THERE.

>> HOW ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS TURNOVER? IN THIS DISCUSSION YESTERDAY, THERE SEEMED TO BE A FEELING THAT THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE LEAVING THE TEACHING PROFESSION BECAUSE OF SALARY.

>> IT'S A JUNE 25TH WE HOLD ONE UNTIL JULY 15TH SO I HOPE MY WORDS DON'T COME BACK TO BITE ME WHEN THEY'RE PRINTED [LAUGHTER] RIGHT NOW, WE'RE FARING BETTER THAN OUR COLLEAGUES.

CAROLINE IS BENEFITING FROM THE FACT WE'RE ONE OF ONLY A HANDFUL OF COUNTIES ON THE SHORE, AT LEAST, THAT ARE NOT CUTTING POSITIONS BECAUSE OF OUR BUDGET.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SOME THINGS WORK, BUT WE HAVE NEIGHBORING COUNTIES THAT ARE CUTTING DOUBLE DIGITS AND TEACHING STAFF, WHICH HAS HELPED US.

OUR HR OFFICE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH RECRUITING.

THIS YEAR THE QUALITY OF CANDIDATES HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.

IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE TOUGH AREAS TO FILL.

SCIENCE IS ONE OF THOSE.

IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH CERTIFICATION BY THE WAY IT'S SET UP.

SPECIAL EDUCATION CONTINUES TO BE A CHALLENGE TO STAFF ACROSS THE STATE.

BUT WE'RE FARING MUCH BETTER THAN MANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE WHOLE STATE, BUT ESPECIALLY ON THE SHORE.

>> THERE WAS SOME INTERESTING CONVERSATION ABOUT IMPLEMENTING, AND THIS WAS JUST A SUGGESTION THAT WAS THROWN OUT BY SOMEONE ABOUT MAYBE OFFERING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH PARAMEDICS AND EMTS TO HAVE MAYBE A TEACHER SAY, I'LL COMMIT TO TEACH IN THE COUNTY FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS IN RETURN FOR A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SALARY.

THAT SEEM TO BE WELL RECEIVED AND I THINK THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA ACTUALLY TOO.

>> THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME INTERESTING THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE AGAIN, AS OTHERS LOOK AT CREATIVE WAYS TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME THINGS BECAUSE WE'RE ALL FIGHTING FOR THE SAME PEOPLE.

THE STATE OF MARYLAND DOES NOT TURN OUT ENOUGH TEACHERS, AT LEAST OVER MY 24 YEAR CAREER, IT'S NEVER PRODUCED ENOUGH TO FILL THE RETIREES AND THOSE LEAVING.

IT CONTINUES TO DO THAT.

THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON IT IS PENNSYLVANIA'S TEACHING STAFF HAVE GRADE.

THEY'VE HAD A LARGER RETIREMENT, SO WE'RE NOT PICKING UP THE NEW PEOPLE IN PENNSYLVANIA LIKE WE USED TO.

WE USED TO BE A 1/4 TO 1/3 OF OUR STAFF WOULD BE PENNSYLVANIA FOLKS COMING IN AND THEY'RE NOW FINDING JOBS THERE, SO THAT'S DRIED UP, SO WE'VE CHANGED OUR FOCUS SOME AND WE'VE PICKED UP SOME PEOPLE FROM GOING SOUTH NOW.

>> THAT'S WHY WE HAD ALL THE PITTSBURGH STEALER SIGNS IN CLASSROOMS [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU'RE SPOT ON. [OVERLAPPING]

>> [INAUDIBLE] [BACKGROUND].

>> I HAD MOVED TO BAN BUT I DIDN'T.

>> BUT IT WAS INTERESTING YESTERDAY TO LISTEN TO, I THINK HOWARD COUNTY WAS ACTUALLY HAD MOVED AND THEIR AVERAGE STARTING SALARY WAS ABOVE 60.

THEY WE'RE MOVING AGGRESSIVELY FOR THAT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO. IT'S GOING TO BE 60 FOR THE BASE.

IT'S JUST LIKE MINIMUM WAGE AND THEN IT'S GOING TO DRIVE ALL THESE OTHER COUNTY SALARIES UP, TAKING PEOPLE UP [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE HEARD RIGHT FROM THE GET-GO WHEN IT WAS PASSED FROM FOLKS IN HOWARD AND MONTGOMERY IN PARTICULAR, THEY BOTH LOOKED AND SAID, IF IT'S 60, OUR NEW NORMAL IS GOING TO BE 65-70 BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHAT IT'LL BE.

>> THE CAREER LADDER IS ESSENTIALLY CONTINUING EDUCATION?

>> YES. THE CAREER LADDER IS BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT A NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION AND IN AREAS WHERE AN NBC DOESN'T EXIST, THE MASTERS BUT YOU HAVE TO NOT HAVE AN NBC FIRST.

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>> THEY DON'T WEIGH A MASTER'S DEGREE AS MUCH, IT'S THE NBC [OVERLAPPING]

>> THEY DO NOT, YEAH [OVERLAPPING]

>> SO I HAVE A LITTLE HEARTBURN WITH THE NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION.

WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT PULLS MAY POTENTIALLY PULL TEACHERS OFF OF ACTUALLY FOLLOWING CURRICULUM AND IMPLEMENTING THINGS IN THE CLASSROOM THAT THEY SHOULD TO FOCUS ON BECOMING NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFIED.

DO YOU HAVE TO VIDEO YOURSELF? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU DO. THE NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION, AND I'M NOT THE EXPERT ON IT AND OUR STAFF, BUT THE NBC IS BASED UPON THE PREMISE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD REFLECTIVE TEACHERS.

FOLKS WHO LOOK AT THEIR CRAFT AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING BASED ON A SET OF STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN SET UP NATIONALLY, AND THAT IF YOU VIDEO YOURSELF, IF YOU REFLECT ON HOW YOU'RE DOING ON THOSE STANDARDS AND THEN PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, YOU THEN ARE GOING TO BE MORE UP TO MAKE THE CORRECTIONS YOU NEED FOR THE KIDS IN YOUR CLASSROOM.

BUT THAT, IN ESSENCE, IS THE PREMISE IT'S BASED OFF OF.

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>> IT TEACHES YOU TO CRITIQUE YOURSELF?

>> TO BE MORE CRITICAL ABOUT WHAT YOUR PRACTICE LOOKS LIKE ON AN ONGOING BASIS AND TO KEEP THAT CONSTANTLY HAPPENING.

>> BUT WE STILL HAVE ADMINISTRATION AND PERFORMING THOSE SAME EVALUATIONS? [OVERLAPPING]

>> ABSOLUTELY. COACHES PROVIDING THAT SUPPORT AS WELL. YES.

>> WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR THE NATIONAL BOARD?

>> YOU HAVE TO BE A TENURED TEACHER.

THEN IT'S A PROCESS YOU GO THROUGH WITH, LITERALLY THE NATIONAL BOARD IS AN ENTITY, SO YOU SIGN UP WITH THEM, YOU GO THROUGH THEIR MODULES, THEIR LEARNING MODULES, YOU SUBMIT YOUR PORTFOLIO TO BE SCORED ON THOSE MODULES, AND THEN GET FEEDBACK, AND IF YOU SCORE HIGH ENOUGH, THEN YOU ARE AN NBC TEACHER.

IT TAKES A COUPLE YEARS TO DO IT TYPICALLY [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS IT MORE ABOUT HOW YOU TEACH OR WHAT YOU TEACH?

>> IT'S MORE HOW.

>> YEAH.

>> GOT YOU.

>> THERE ARE SOME TEACHERS WHO OPT TO FOCUS ON GETTING THAT CERTIFICATION DONE, TO RECEIVED THE HIGHER. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ONCE YOU'RE NATIONALLY BOARD CERTIFIED, WHAT'S THE PAY JUMP?

>> THE FIRST INCREASE, I BELIEVE, IS 10,000 AND THEN YOU HAVE TO RENEW, IT USED TO BE EVERY 10 YEARS, NOW IT'S EVERY FIVE?

>> YEAH.

>> YOU HAVE TO RENEW EVERY FIVE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT CREDENTIAL.

THEN EACH RENEWAL, THERE'S A PAY BUMP FOR EACH ONE?

>> YEAH.

>> NOTICE A LARGE INCREASE IN MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE INTEREST, NON-RESIDENT TUITION.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S MAINLY INTEREST [OVERLAPPING]

>> IN BILLING INTEREST. YEAH. REALLY GOOD YEAR ON INTEREST [LAUGHTER]

>> I THINK WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING.

>> YEAH.

>> THE CAREER LADDER, THE $70,000 CAREER LADDER, THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASED SALARIES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE RECEIVING CERTIFICATIONS AND MASTER'S DEGREES? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YES.

>> THE STATE CONTRIBUTES A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE AMOUNT OF THE INCREASE US BEING A COUNTY THAT'S LESS WEALTHY, THE STATE CONTRIBUTES MORE TO THE SALARY INCREASE THAN THEY DO FOR WEALTHIER JURISDICTIONS [OVERLAPPING]

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT AS A HIGHLIGHT HERE AT THE VERY TOP, COUNTY LOCAL SHARE $2.4 MILLION INCREASE, UNRESTRICTED STATE AID INCREASE IS 1.4 MILLION.

THE COUNTY IS CONTRIBUTING $1 MILLION MORE THAN THE STATE IS IN ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN FUNDING.

>> YES. WE ARE ONE OF THE LEAST WEALTHY JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE.

>> I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

COUNTY RECEIVES A $2.4 MILLION INCREASE BY STATE FORMULA.

STATE RECEIVES A $1.4 MILLION INCREASE. BY STATE FORMULA.

>> YEAH.

>> THE NEGOTIATED AGREEMENTS IS THAT SALARY ESSENTIALLY, THAT LINE ITEM 4, IS THAT PRETTY MUCH ALL SALARY INCREASES?

>> THAT ONE THERE IS PRETTY MUCH ALL SALARY, AND THEN THE ASSOCIATED FRINGE WITH IT WITHOUT ANY INCREASE IN SOCIAL SECURITY WORKMAN'S COMP, THOSE THINGS. IT'S ALL IN ONE LINE.

>> THAT'S FOR SUPPORT STAFF, TEACHERS, [OVERLAPPING] EVERYBODY.

THAT'S WHAT ALL THE ALPHABET SUPER IS THERE, THAT'S THE DIFFERENT.

>> CCEAS, TEACHERS, CCESPA, SSP, SUPPORT, AND AS ACC IS ADMINISTRATORS.

>> FIXED CHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH NEGOTIATED.

>> [OVERLAPPING] SORRY, TRAVIS, YEAH.

THE 223 IS THE OTHER FIXED.

>> SO THOSE ARE [OVERLAPPING] INFRINGES.

SO TOP LINE ITEM SALARY, THEN INFRINGES, GOT YOU.

>> THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR. I THINK WE BROKE THAT OUT SEPARATELY.

>> SO DOLLARS FOLLOWING THE STUDENTS.

THIS IS THE LAST THING I GOT FOR YOU.

THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS THROUGH SALARY.

SO, IS BY MOVING PEOPLE.

IF YOU HAVE TO SPEND MORE ON A ELL STUDENT IN GREENSBORO THAN YOU DO ON A STUDENT IN FREIBURG.

THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN REALLY DO THAT IS BY MOVING A POSITION FROM ONE SCHOOL TO ANOTHER SCHOOL?

>> THE SIMPLEST SOLUTION TO GET MOST BANG FOR BUCK WITH THE PART MONEY FOLLOW THE KID IS THAT IS REALLOCATION OF STAFF.

>> ARE YOU STRUGGLING WITH THAT AT ALL ANYWHERE?

>> WE'RE NOT RIGHT NOW. SOME OF THE JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE TITLE ONE AND NON TITLE ONE SCHOOLS WILL PROBABLY STRUGGLE A LITTLE MORE.

OUR INITIAL ANALYSIS, AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT THROUGH THE AIB ON MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S STRAIGHT ON MONEY FOLLOWING THE KID.

WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR THAT NOW.

WE BELIEVE THAT, IN ESSENCE, BECAUSE ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS ARE HIGH POVERTY SCHOOLS, EIGHT OF THE NINE OF OUR SCHOOLS WILL QUALIFY FOR CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY FUNDING, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE A FREE AND REDUCED MEALS RATE OF OVER 55% AND EIGHT OF OUR NINE SCHOOLS?

>> WHICH ONE IS THE NINTH OF DONE PREMISE?

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>> NORTH CAROLINE?

>> NORTH CAROLINE.

>> NORTH CAROLINE WILL QUALIFY THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

IT'S A THREE YEAR AVERAGE FOR YOUR FREE AND REDUCED MEALS.

SO WE BELIEVE UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES DRAMATICALLY WITH THE ECONOMY.

ALL NINE OF OUR SCHOOLS WILL QUALIFY.

THE DISTRICTS THAT SEEM TO BE IDENTIFYING ISSUES WITH HAVING TO MOVE STAFF ARE THOSE THAT HAVE.

>> WEALTHY AREAS.

>> IF YOU'VE GOT THAT ONE OUTLIER SCHOOL THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF POVERTY OR A LOT OF ML STUDENTS OR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO SEE FROM WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAD SEEN IN THEIR DATA RUNS, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE CLASS SIZES GO UP AS THEY'RE RE ALLOCATING STAFF TO SCHOOLS THAT HAVE A MORE DIVERSE POPULATION.

AND AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THAT LOOKS TO BE AN ISSUE FOR US AT LEAST IN THE INITIAL YEARS.

>> WE'RE SPREAD PRETTY EVENLY.

>> WE REALLY ARE. IT'S MUCH MORE NOW THAN IT WAS 10, 15 YEARS AGO.

WHICH IS NOT GREAT FOR THE COUNTY, BUT AT LEAST IN THE MONEY [NOISE] THE KIDS.

AT LEAST IN THAT PART, IT WILL AVOID THAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

>> BUT YOUR SERVICES IN THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BE MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS, [OVERLAPPING] SPECIAL ED AND ELL.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE, RIGHT NOW, WE BELIEVE OUR SERVICES WILL MAINTAIN AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT OUR DATA, LOOKING AT OUR KIDS WHO AREN'T MAKING PROGRESS AND PROVIDING THOSE SUPPORTS.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MONEY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY FOR WHAT'S GOING TO EACH SCHOOL.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REAL CHALLENGE.

NOT TO GET OFF ON.

>> BUT YOU DON'T, [OVERLAPPING] I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING A CLASS OF 40.

>> WE DO NOT AT ALL HERE.

AGAIN, NOT UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING REALLY CHANGED ECONOMICALLY FOR ONE OF OUR TOWNS.

BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT ANYTIME IN OUR FUTURE.

>> MR. BARTZ.

>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I KNOW WE HAD, BUT I THOUGHT IN THE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST YEAR, YOU GUYS WERE GETTING AWAY FROM THE ENTERPRISE, IS THAT?

>> WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.

>> RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR US TO GET AWAY FROM ENTERPRISE. I KNOW YOU GUYS DID.

BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR US TO.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT AND EXAMINE MOVING AWAY FROM IT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT.

>> CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON COMMISSIONER FULKER'S QUESTION ABOUT ADDED JOBS AT THE CENTRAL OFFICE, THE RESTRUCTURE OF ADMINISTRATION IN THERE.

YOU SAID TO SOME RETIREES AND YOU DID SOME RESTRUCTURE OF JOB DUTIES? CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT?

>> SURE. TRANSPORTATION OFFICE, MISS MILLIGAN IS RETIRING THIS WEEK AFTER 44 YEARS IN THE COUNTY? WE HAVE REPLACED THE SUPERVISOR TRANSPORTATION, BUT WE TOOK A POSITION THAT WAS A COORDINATOR OF TRANSPORTATION WHERE THE WORD COORDINATOR FALLS DOES MATTER? WE MOVE THAT INTO A NS ADMINISTRATOR LEVEL POSITION TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT OF TRANSPORTATION.

CARMEN'S WONDERFUL WHAT SHE DID, BUT YOU'RE HARD PRESSED TO FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN KEEP THAT PACE UP LONG TERM.

WHAT WE'VE ALSO FOUND IS CARMEN PUT IN 44, WE DIDN'T DO A GREAT JOB OF BUILDING THAT PIPELINE FOR A REPLACEMENT FOR CARMEN.

WE'VE ADDED A COORDINATOR LEVEL POSITION THAT WILL HOPEFULLY HELP US BUILD A PIPELINE WHEN OUR NEXT SUPERVISOR OF TRANSPORTATION, MR. JOHN BOB LOOKS AT RETIREMENT.

DOESN'T IMPACT THE OVERALL COST.

IT'S CHEAPER ACTUALLY FOR US TO DO THAT.

ALSO, WE HAD ANOTHER RETIREMENT IN THE TRANSPORTATION OFFICE AS WELL, AND THE OVERALL SALARY SAVINGS, WE'RE STILL COMING OUT AHEAD DOLLARS WISE BY REALLOCATING AND CHANGING THAT ONE POSITION.

WE HAVE ANOTHER POSITION AT CENTRAL OFFICE.

USED TO HAVE A DIRECTOR OF STUDENT SERVICES POSITION.

I HELD THE POSITION FOR SEVEN YEARS.

WE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT POSITION.

ACTUALLY THIS YEAR. WITH THE COMPLEXITIES COMING WITH THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY FUNDING.

[NOISE] WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF SUPPORT THAT SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO NEED AS EIGHT SCHOOLS BRING ON THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY PIECE.

I'M USING A SUPERVISOR POSITION TO MAINTAIN AND OVERSEE THAT WORK, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED THROUGH THE UNRESTRICTED BUDGET.

IT'S GOING TO BE COVERED THROUGH CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY FUNDING, WHICH IS RESTRICTED.

WITH THAT MOVE, IT FREES UP A SUPERVISORY ROLE.

I WAS ABLE TO BRING BACK THE DIRECTOR OF STUDENT SERVICES POSITION TO HELP SUPPORT THE OTHER WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THROUGH ENROLLMENT, ATTENDANCE, DISCIPLINE, THOSE ASPECTS.

I WAS ABLE TO BRING THAT POSITION BACK.

IN FINANCE, WE HAD AN OPENING IN THE CFO POSITION.

WE HAD ONE POSITION COME OPEN LAST YEAR THAT SAT VACANT MOST OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

WE HAVE A POSITION THAT IS BEING VACATED AT THE END OF THIS MONTH BY RETIREMENT AS WELL.

WE REBALANCE THOSE POSITIONS.

WE FEEL THAT WE WOULD BE BETTER SERVE WITH TWO FISCAL SPECIALISTS WITH

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A ONE CFO AND ONE ACCOUNTING MANAGER, WHICH WILL BETTER SERVE US FOR ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AND PAYABLE, AS WELL AS GRANT MANAGEMENT.

SAME NUMBERS OF POSITIONS, BUT REBALANCED THEM RETITLED THEM.

CHANGES THE PAY A LITTLE BIT IN SOME OF THOSE, BUT ALSO GIVES US A LITTLE BIT GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO PRESENT A BETTER FORWARD FACING MODEL FOR US IN OUR ACCOUNTING FINANCE OFFICE.

WE'VE MADE A SHIFT THERE.

I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE ONLY, WE HAD ONE OTHER POSITION THAT IS RETIRING AS WELL THAT WAS A HIGHER PAID DATA MANAGEMENT POSITION, AND WE FEEL THROUGH REBALANCING, WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO BRING IN A POSITION THAT'S NOT AS HIGH GRADE BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING TO USE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR IT TO DO.

WE DON'T NEED THE HIGH LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY THAT USED TO BE REQUIRED FOR THAT POSITION.

[OVERLAPPING] I GIVING US SOME VERSION.

WE REPLACED IT WITH A DIFFERENT POSITION WITH A LOWER GRADE POSITION.

>> GOT YOU.

>> WE'RE NOT ADDING BODIES.

WE'RE REBALANCING THE WAY WE'RE USING IT.

I WILL JUST SAY BECAUSE WE GET SCHOOL SYSTEMS GET BEAT UP ALL THE TIME FOR THE SIZE OF THEIR DISTRICT LEVEL STAFF.

>> WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.

>> WE HAVE THE WE HAVE.

>> THE STUTTLE, DR. SEV.

>> BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WE HAVE AND THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE ONE OF THE SMALLEST CENTRAL OFFICES IN THE ENTIRE STATE.

[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] NOT ONLY ARE WE SMALLER THAN ANYBODY ELSE OUR SIZE, WE ALSO ARE LOWER PAID THAN ANYBODY ELSE OUR SIZE.

THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF THE MID LEVEL ADMINISTRATION AMOUNT THAT GOES TO THE DISTRICT LEVEL POSITIONS?

>> IF YOU BROKE OUT SALARY, PERCENTAGE OF BUDGET GOING TO SALARY THEN LOOK SMALLER.

>> COMPARED TO PRETTY MUCH A GOOD SET, EVERYBODY ELSE WHO'S WITHIN OUR SIZE RANGE.

>> THE NEXT QUESTION, WHEN [NOISE] I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE WAITING ON THE LAST TIME YOU SPOKE, YOU WERE WAITING ON THE UNION REP WHO GIVEN YOU ABOUT THE SUPPORT STAFF NEGOTIATIONS.

DOES THAT STARTED TO GET THERE?

>> THE BALLS IN THEIR COURT. IT HAS BEEN FOR OVER A YEAR.

>> PEOPLE THAT REACH OUT TO US.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEY HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY.

HE SAID SHE SAID TYPE SITUATION.

>> THE ASSOCIATION HAS REACHED OUT TO MANY.

THEY'VE HAD ONGOING MEETINGS WHERE THEY'RE GETTING FEEDBACK.

BUT THE BALL TRULY IS IN THEIR COURT.

BY LAW, I CAN'T INTERVENE.

THE BOARD CAN'T INTERVENE.

THEY NEED TO WORK THROUGH THEIR ASSOCIATION, AND THE ASSOCIATION REP. WHAT'S THAT?

>> MAKE AN OFFER OR?

>> THEY NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM.

WHEN THEY'RE READY TO MEET AT THE TABLE, WE WILL BE READY TO MEET.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> GOOD.

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

I GUESS WE HAVE TO HAVE A FORMAL VOTE TO APPROVE THIS.

>> I HAVE A MOTION.

>> I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET SUMMARY AS PRESENTED BY DR. SIMMONS. SECOND.

>> MOTION IN SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYES HAVE IT.

>> THANKS VERY MUCH, AND THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

I NEW IT BIG LIFT THIS YEAR.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU GUYS ARE GOOD. WE WANT TO KEEP GOING.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, COMMISSIONER BARTZ?

>> YES. JAMIE. SIR. I ASKED DANNY THIS MORNING WHY WE HAVE ALL JOHN DEERE EQUIPMENT, WHY WE WERE BUYING A KUBOTA.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY. WELL, I GUESS WE DO HAVE JOHN DEERE.

THE JOHN DEERE SAME SIZE, SAME CAPACITY IS A LITTLE OVER EIGHT GRAM ONE FOR US.

IT'S REALLY MORE OF A BUDGETARY. REASON.

>> YOU LOOKED IN, YOU NEED CHECKED IT OUT ON THAT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE THAT ACTUALLY STATE CONTRACT.

>> BUT DOES CENTRAL SHAFT THEY SERVICE IT FOR YOU OR YOU DO YOUR OWN? CENTRAL SHAFT DO YOUR SERVICING FOR THE TRACTOR?

>> HOPEFULLY. [LAUGHTER].

>> THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING.

>> IN THE LONG RUN IS THE $8,000 REALLY GOING TO SAVE YOU IN THE LONG RUN WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, KUBOTA TO JOHN DEERE?

>> I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

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>> AT THIS POINT, I THINK I THINK WE CAN GIVE IT A SHOT TO SEE.

I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION.

>> NO, THAT THEY'RE VERY FAIR QUESTIONS WHEN WE YOU KNOW I'M SO USED TO LOOKING OBVIOUSLY AT THE PRICE TAG, BUT WHAT I'VE MET IT FOR THAT PRICE TAG.

WHAT I'M NOT USED TO OBVIOUSLY THINKING ABOUT IN THAT REGARD IS.

>> MAINTENANCE.

>> WHEN I WAS IN THE POULTRY INDUSTRY, WE HAD JOHN DEERE.

HE SAID, OH, WE'LL TRY TO KUBOTA, LITTLE BIT CHEAPER OR WHATEVER.

IT JUST BIT US RIGHT IN THE BUTT.

IT WAS A DISASTER.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP.

>> WE TESTED BOTH.

>> IT'S GOT A WARRANTY ON IT.

THAT'S, WE CAN GO WITH IT.

THAT WAS THE ONLY THING SAVED US BEFORE, BUT WHEN I WAS IN THE POULTRY INDUSTRY WAS A WARRANTY.

I'M FINE. I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS.

>> VERY GOOD QUESTION.

>> IT MIGHT BE A LEARNING LESSON.

>> PARDON ME.

>> IT MIGHT BE A LEARNING LESSON.

>> IT ALWAYS IS, REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT, AGAIN, BACK FOR THE BACK.

>> THIS IS FOR THE BALL FIELD, THIS FOR FUTURE EVERYTHING.

>> I WON'T COME BACK AND ASK NOW FOR SPEED HERE BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL THE IMPLEMENTS THAT WE WOULD NEED FOR EVERY USE IN OUR PARK SYSTEM.

WE CAN DO THE BUSH HAVING, THE TRAILS, AND HAS A HORSE TOWERED CAPACITY TO WHOLE OF A LARGE DECK MOWER, FRONT END MOTOR, FORKLIFTS AND ANY OTHER FIELD DRAG SITUATIONS.

>> WITH THE IF WHEN THE BALL FIELDS COME INTO PLAY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DRAG THE FIELDS AND ALL THAT STUFF WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE THE TURF TIRES AND NOT SO MUCH.

>> CORRECT.

>> AGRICULTURE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] RETIRED.

>> THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE LIKE, IT'S ANOTHER VENDOR TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH TO GET FILTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR CENTRAL SHAFT, IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE MAINTENANCE, IT MAY BE WORTH THE EXTRA 8,000.

IF RAY HAS TO GO GIVE FILTERS, MAYBE TAYLOR MESSE DELIVERS THEM RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF BUR EQUIPMENT'S GOING TO DELIVER THEM OR IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO GET THEM.

IT'S POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT OILS IN THE TRANSMISSION OR.

>> [OVERLAPPING] ALL THAT STUFF OTHER SMALL PIECES OF UTILITY EQUIPMENT, WE GO RIGHT TO THE DEALER? FOR THOSE SERVICE PARTS AND PIECES? WARRANTY AND OTHER REASONS.

I MAINTAIN THAT UNTIL THEY AGE OUT, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WITH THE STEINER, IT'S ANYBODY'S GUESS WHO CAN.

DO YOU DEAL WITH BURKE NOW? DO YOU HAVE STUFF STEINER AND BURKE DEAL? WELL, WE ALREADY DEALING WITH THAT, THAT'S FINE.

IT'S JUST SOMETIMES IT'S JUST CLEANER TO STAY WITHIN ONE VENDOR.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU GOOD?

>> YEAH.

>> IF YOU FEEL CONFIDENT WITH IT, WE'LL GO WITH IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> NO. NOT AT THIS TIME.

>> MR. PORTER.

>> I HAVE JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THE COMMISSIONERS.

IS THAT THE JUDY CENTER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?

>> YEAH.

>> THE JUDY CENTER IN GREENSBORO?

>> CORRECT.

>> AS A PART OF RECEIVING THAT GRANT FUNDING, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IN THE DEED THAT IT WILL BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE FOR 20 YEARS?

>> YES.

>> CORRECT.

>> SO IT'S A CONDITION OF THE GRANT RECEIPT, CORRECT?

>> YES. IT'S A COVENANT THAT RUNS WITH THE LAND FOR 20 YEARS.

>> FOR 20 YEARS, OKAY.

>> LOOK LIKE WHEN WE WERE BUILDING IT, IT'S ALREADY THERE IN THE FORMAT THE STATE PROVIDED.

>> ONE MORE QUESTION?

>> GO AHEAD.

>> DANNY, THE CANOPY TREE SERVICE, IS THIS A NEW CONTRACT? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THEY OWE?

>> THIS IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE EXISTING CONTRACT, JUST STRIKING A NEW PO WITH THEM FOR THE REMAINING MONEY THAT IS LEFT IN ARPA FUNDING TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

>> DO WE HAVE A PLAN ON WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR THIS MONEY?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO DIRECT THAT TO ROBIN AND BRIAN.

I KNOW BRIAN HAS BEEN PRICING AND IDENTIFYING DIFFERENT ROADS THAT NEED TO BE CUT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW, IT DEPEND.

>> HOW DO WE IDENTIFY BETO ROAD AS ONE.

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THERE'S ROADS UP NORTH TOO AS WELL, THAT WE NEED OF ZION ROAD BEING ONE?

>> I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN WE GOT THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, TO DO TREE TRIMMING FROM CANOPY, IT WAS FOR ONE SPECIFIC ROADS.

I REQUESTED THAT HE'LL COME BACK TO US EVERY TIME JUST SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THEY WEREN'T UP AND THE PRICE ON US INCREMENTALLY FOR OUR APPROVAL.

SO I THINK WHAT DANNY WANTS TO DO HERE IS THIS IS THE BALANCE OF THE ARPA MONEY THAT WE ALLOCATED FOR TREE TRIMMING.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE WERE GETTING THOSE OLD CONTRACTS IN ROAD BY ROAD BY ROAD.

INSTEAD OF DOING IT THAT WAY, DANNY JUST WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE A PO FOR THE BALANCE OF WHAT WE HAD ALLOCATED AND LET PUBLIC WORKS, JUST LET THEM.

>> INSTEAD OF JUST DOING ONE ROAD AT A TIME AND STUFF, WE WOULD PROBABLY SERVE US AND CAN BE BETTER TO GIVE THEM A LIST OF 5-10, SAY.

GO AHEAD AND LET'S DO THESE.

IT'S BEEN CRAWLING ALONG A LITTLE BIT DOING THEM ONE BY ONE, AND I THINK IS WHY WE STILL HAVE [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE ONLY THING, NOW THEY HAVE A THING FOR 145,000, WHO HOLDS THEM ACCOUNTABLE ON WHAT THEY DO?

>> PUBLIC WORKS.

>> WELL, I GET THAT.

>> THE ORIGINAL PO WAS FOR THE FULL 250, SO THEY SPENT ABOUT 100 GRAND OFF OF THAT.

ESSENTIALLY, OUR SYSTEM WILL NOT ALLOW US TO ROLL A PO FOR SO LONG MORE OF A CLEAN UP FOR THE REMAINING DEBT.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION HERE ABOUT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TREE TRIMMING? DETOUR ROAD HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC.

WE RODE THROUGH THERE LAST NIGHT ON THE WAY BACK FROM MR. PHELPS VIEWING.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE, ROBIN? ARE THEY TRIMMING NOW? THE ROAD IS NOT CLOSED PERMANENTLY.

IT WAS CLOSED SO THAT TRIMMING COULD BE DONE AS A SAFETY ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YEAH.

>> BECAUSE I NOTICED THE BUCKET TRUCK WAS THERE FOR THIS PART.

>> THAT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS.

WILL BE TRIMMED, MAKE IT SAFER SINCE WE'RE DETOURING PEOPLE DOWN DETOUR ROAD.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER, BUT IT WILL EVENTUALLY BE OPEN BACK UP.

>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IGNORING.

>> IT'S ACTUALLY POSTED ON FACEBOOK THAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE, I KNOW. I RECOMMEND PUTTING SOMEBODY AT THE END OF IT AND TURNING EVERYBODY AROUND.

SHOW ME YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

YOU LIVE ON THIS ROAD OR YOU GO BACK TO HITTING A BRAKE. THAT WILL FIX IT.

>> WHILE YOU'RE ON THE SUBJECT, YOU MIGHT JUST CLARIFY.

IT WAS THEY WERE GETTING OUT OF HAND, SO WE WERE TRYING TO TRIM THE TREES.

>> IT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IT IS A LOT.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO FIX IT, SO IT WAS PASSABLE THERE, AND THEN IT WAS JUST GETTING TOO MUCH.

THE PEOPLE ON DETOUR ROAD DID NOT ASK TO HAVE IT CLOSED.

IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE DID SO WE CAN GET SOME WORK DONE THERE, THEN IT WILL BE REOPENED IN WHAT, A WEEK, A COUPLE OF WEEKS, ROBIN, DO YOU THINK? JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THIS.

>> PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL, THERE WAS DISCUSSION WITH THE STATES ON THE DETOUR ROUTE PLAN.

FOR ONE, DETOUR WAS VERY DANGEROUS.

TWO VERY SHARP TURNS.

FORTUNATELY, FOR US, CORN IS NOT PLANTED IN THE FIELD, AND THAT WOULD REALLY HAVE CREATED A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

EVERYONE KNOWS THE ESTABLISHED PLAN AND HIGNUTT WASN'T PART OF THAT, BUT EVERYONE IS GOING TO TAKE THEIR OWN ROUTE.

WITHIN THE FIRST TWO DAYS, YOU RECEIVED PICTURES AND COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS, AND IT WAS PICTURES OF CONCRETE TRUCKS, TRACTOR TRAILERS, DUMP TRUCKS GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, WHICH WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT ON THAT ROAD.

THE ROADS ARE NOT CONSTRUCTED FOR THAT.

THE TWO SHARP CURVES.

WE'VE GOT SOME TREE ISSUES.

THOSE ROAD BARRIERS WERE PUT JUST TO DETER ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, AND IT MAKES IT TIGHTER.

TALKING TO A GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES ON THE ROAD, NO DUMP TRUCKS OR CONCRETE TRUCKS, AND TRACTOR TRAILS HAVE WENT BY SINCE THE BARRICADES WENT UP.

IT DID ALLEVIATE THAT ISSUE.

I WILL SAY THAT WHILE I WAS THERE, THE SIGN, THOSE WAS IN THE YARD REACHED 55 MILES PER HOUR, THE SHERIFF'S SIGN THAT THEY PUT OUT.

THAT WAS INTERESTING. THE INTENT IS TO GET THE TREE SITUATION STRAIGHT,

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GET THE ROAD AS SAFE AS WE CAN, AND WE'LL OPEN IT BACK UP.

WE MAY PUT UP ADDITIONAL SIGNS, SIGNAL TRUCK TRAFFIC.

>> PLUS I RECEIVED AN EMAIL THAT I FORWARDED ON FROM A RESIDENT WHO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREE LIMBS AND ASKED FOR US TO ADDRESS IT IF WE CAN.

>> WE DID HAVE A CREW THERE YESTERDAY AS WELL AS ON THAT LIMB.

>> WHILE WE'RE ON THIS SUBJECT REAL QUICK ON THIS LITTLE SIDE SHOT HERE.

I DID TALK TO TWO STATE HIGHWAY OFFICIALS EARLIER THIS WEEK OR LATE LAST WEEK, AND I ASKED THEM TO GET ANOTHER MESSAGE BOARD OR MOVE THE MESSAGE BOARD ON ROUTE 16 DOWN CLOSER TO 404 AND TRY TO DIVERT ANY TRUCK TRAFFIC ONTO THE SERVICE ROAD THAT RUNS BY THE ROYAL FARM STORE, TO TRY TO CATCH THEM BEFORE THEY CAME ANY FURTHER DOWN 16.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING DONE YET.

AS OF THIS MORNING, THEY HADN'T DONE ANYTHING.

I'LL FOLLOW-UP WITH THEM, BUT I ASKED THEM TO PUT A MESSAGE BOARD DOWN BY THE SERVICE ROAD THAT SAY NO TRUCKS BEYOND THIS POINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON A VMS BOARD, TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE'S NO WAY THROUGH HERE, YOU KNOW.

THOSE ROADS CAN'T SUSTAIN THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.

EVEN EVEN HIGNUTT OR CLARK CAN SUSTAIN IT.

BUT ANYWAY, IT HAS REDUCED.

I'VE NOTICED THE TIMES I'VE BEEN THROUGH, I DID PASS A TRACTOR TRAILER THIS MORNING ON CLARK ROAD OR IT WAS ON BEACH AND BRANCH ROAD.

WHERE HE WENT, I'M ASSUMING THEY TURNED ON TO CLARK AND WENT THAT WAY.

THERE'S STILL ISSUES THERE, AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO BOTH KENNY FENDER AND BOBBY TUCKER AT STATE HIGHWAY, AND I'LL FOLLOW-UP WITH THEM.

>> STATE PROJECT HAS BEEN MORE OF PAYING THEIR SIGN.

>> YEAH, THE RIVER ROAD IS.

>> WE DID GET MESSAGE BOARDS UP THERE.

>> RIVER ROAD, WELL, I THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT, BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING DOWN AND TURNING COMING BACK OUT.

>> THAT IS COOL NOW.

BUT NO DOUBT THAT THE STATE ROAD CLOSURE HAS FAR BEEN MORE OF A BURDEN THAN OUR CLOSURE IN RIVER ROAD.

BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ANYTHING ELSE THERE?

>> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.

>> NO.

>> I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> MOVE, WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SECOND.

>> I GET A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE?

>> AYE.

>> AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.

>> I ORIGINALLY ON THE CLOSED SESSION [INAUDIBLE]

>> OKAY. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.

[County Administrator’s Report]

>> I JUST HAVE TWO THINGS FOR YOU.

THE FIRST IS REGARDING THE MID-SHORE REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER.

I HEARD FROM TODD MOHN, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY THAT PART A AND PART B PROGRAMMING IS ABOUT 85% COMPLETE AND THREE COUNTIES HAD PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO SPLIT THE COST OF THE STUDY.

OUR SHARE IS ABOUT $28,021.67 TO BE EXACT.

THIS IS ABOUT ONE-THIRD OF THE FEES TO DATE ON THAT.

I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 85%.

WE ARE PROCESSING THAT INVOICE.

TODD HAS ALSO OR QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY HAS ALSO CIRCULATED A DRAFT MOU FOR CONSIDERATION THAT I NOW HAVE AND I HAVEN'T SENT THAT TO YOU YET, BUT I'LL SEND THAT FOR CIRCULATION TO YOU AND THE OFFICE OF LAW ALSO SO WE CAN START TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK IN SPEAKING TO COMMISSIONER READING, WE WERE THINKING WITH THAT DRAFT, WE MIGHT NEED A SMALL MEETING WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, COUNTY ATTORNEY AND A COMMISSIONER REPRESENTATIVE TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE MOU BEFORE WE MOVE ON BECAUSE THE NEXT BILL I ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO GET WILL BE 100,000, WILL BE OUR NEXT PIECE.

>> THAT'S FOR START OF DESIGN.

>> I WILL GET THAT CIRCULATED, BUT THINGS ARE MOVING THERE.

THEN THE SECOND THING I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP WAS REGARDING THE MOVE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN OFFICE OF LAW OVER TO THEIR CURRENT LOCATION.

THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN DAVIS BONE AND FORDEL AND THE COUNTY HAS BEEN, I GUESS SENT TO DAVIS BONE AND FORDEL.

ONCE THAT SIGNED, THEY CAN GET STARTED ON FINISHING UP

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THE LAYOUT IN THE FLOOR PLAN AND GIVING US AN ESTIMATE ON THE COST SO WE CAN ADJUST AS NECESSARY.

THAT IS MOVING ALSO, AND ONCE WE AGREE ON THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET STARTED WITH THE RENOVATIONS AND GET EVERYBODY MORE COMFORTABLE.

WOULD YOU HAVE ANYTHING, DANNY?

>> YES. IT IS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE HODO LOCATION ON MELVILLE ROAD UP NORTH HAS CHANGED HANDS WITH THE PASSING OF MR. ROCKS, AND HAS GONE TO HIS DAUGHTER.

THROUGH CONVERSATION, IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE IS INTERESTED IN SELLING THE PROPERTY.

I KNOW AT ONE TIME WE HAD SHOWN INTEREST IN POSSIBLY PURCHASING IT INSTEAD OF LEASING THE PARCEL THERE FOR THE HODO.

LOOKING AT THE PARCEL, IT IS 32 ACRES, SO IT IS A LARGER PARCEL.

WE ONLY OCCUPY A SMALL PIECE OF IT.

THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN AND START DISCUSSION WITH HER TO PROCURE THE PROPERTY? DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE LEASING IT? DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT PROCURING JUST A SMALL THREE ACRE SPOT OF IT? IN THE PAST BUDGET SET ASIDE SOME MONEY TO START RENOVATING THE HODOS.

I THINK WE WERE PAUSING ON THAT UNTIL WE KIND OF DECIDED WHAT TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S TO THAT POINT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> SHE OKAY JUST SELLING THAT LITTLE PIECE OF IT?

>> OUR UNDERSTANDING, SHE IS FINE IF WE WANT TO BUY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR ACRES OF IT OR IF WE WANTED TO BUY THE WHOLE PARCEL. SHE'S FINE WITH EITHER WAY.

>> I THINK SHE FIND 32 ACRES [INAUDIBLE]

>> I WOULD GET A REASONABLE SIZE PLOT THAT WE NEED TWO ACRES.

HOW BIG WAS THE ONE IN FEDERALSBURG? ANYBODY REMEMBER? OLD DENTON ROAD?

>> I DO NOT RECALL WHAT THE SIZE OF THAT ONE WAS.

>> WHAT'S THE DITCH?

>> POWER LINES.

>> THERE'S A DITCH THERE, AND THERE'S A POWER LINES BACK THERE.

YOU COULD SQUARE THAT UP.

>> CORRECT. WE COULD.

>> THERE'S A DITCH RIGHT BESIDE IT.

>> I WOULD PURSUE WHATEVER FITS. A SMALLER LOT.

>> STAND BACK A LITTLE BIT.

>> WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE GET OUR SELF PLENTY OF ROOM TO COMMUTE. YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THAT?

>> YEAH.

>> WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU, DANNY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, KATHLEEN. COUNTY COMMISSIONER, OPEN DISCUSSING PERIOD. COMMISSIONER PORTER.

[County Commissioners Open Discussion Period]

>> I WILL MENTION THAT WE ARE ALL SADDENED TO HEAR OF REGISTER WILL JIM PHELPS PASSING.

LAST NIGHT, WE AS A GROUP, WE WENT TO THE VIEWING, A LOT OF PEOPLE.

JIM WAS VERY WELL THOUGHT OF IN THE COUNTY.

WE CERTAINLY EXPRESSED OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY.

>> I'LL JUST MENTION BRIEFLY THAT I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE AND I FORWARDED THE EMAIL FROM DR. COPPERSMITH AT CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE APPOINTMENT OF A TRUSTEE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COUNTY AS ONE OF OUR TRUSTEES IS RELOCATING.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT TIME FRAME IS, BUT, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP ON OUR RADAR AND BE THINKING ABOUT.

I REATTENDED MY FIRST SOCIAL SERVICES MEETING LAST WEEK.

THEY ARE FURTHER ALONG ON THE BUILDING THAT I REALIZED THAT THEY WERE, AND BASICALLY, I THINK I WOULD JUST REPORT THAT NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDERWAY WITH A DEVELOPER WHO HAS APPARENTLY REACHED SOME CONSENSUS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ABOUT THE BUILDING.

I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH HIM.

BUT, I'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION LATER, BUT I THINK IT'S MOVING ALONG QUICKLY, AND SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE A GOOD DEVELOPER WHO HAS DONE THIS ACTUALLY IN THE PAST.

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I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR THAT GOVERNOR MOORE ATTENDED THE COUNTY LAST FRIDAY THE 4TH.

>> FOUR WE HAVEN'T HAD MEETINGS.

>> HAD HELD HIS CABINET MEETING HERE AT THE PAVILION.

I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL DONE.

APPRECIATE. HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, VISITING LOCATIONS, AND HE WAS STILL HERE WHEN I LEFT.

THEY WERE KIND PULLING HIM ALONG, BUT HE WAS VERY GRACIOUS AND VERY IMPRESSIVE MAN AND ENJOYED HAVING HIM, HOPE THEY COME BACK.

GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO SOME OF HIS SECRETARIES.

ONE OF THEM IN PARTICULAR WAS SECRETARY DAY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I WILL SEGUE INTO THE FUNCTION THAT WE HAD ON SATURDAY AT THE CHURCH IN RIDGLEY.

THANK YOU FOR INVITING US KATHLEEN.

FRANK AND I ATTENDED.

WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AREA, AND ALSO A MORE SPECIFIC DISCUSSION ABOUT DAY SPRING.

SINCE THAT DISCUSSION, I HAVE REACHED OUT THROUGH EMAIL TO MY CONTACT PERSON AT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND HE HAS RESPONDED WITH THE STATEMENT THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR TRANSFERRING THE PROPERTY AND FINANCING FOR RENOVATION.

I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE AT THE MARYLAND MUNICIPAL LEAGUE THIS WEEK.

THE SECRETARY IS THERE AS WELL AS THIS PERSON.

BUT I AM GOING TO MY NEXT STEP.

WILL BE TO REACH OUT DIRECTLY BY EMAIL TO SECRETARY DAY.

I WAS ABLE TO FINALLY GET A GOOD EMAIL ADDRESS FOR HIM.

I DID NOT HAVE ONE. BUT, REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO HIM.

BUT WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS WHILE THE GOVERNOR WAS HERE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE INVITATION.

IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR THE YOUNG LADY THAT WAS THERE, HANNAH FREEMAN, IS SHE SOMEONE THAT I SHOULD INCLUDE IN COMMUNICATION AS WELL? VERY NICE YOUNG LADY, VERY PLEASANT, YOUNG LADY.

I THINK LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.

WE WILL TRY I THINK DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOX SENT AN E MAIL UPDATING YOU, I BELIEVE, ON I THINK IT WAS YOU ON EVERYONE EMAIL.

WHERE WE WERE UP TO THAT MEETING.

MOVING FORWARD, I WILL I'LL FORWARD THAT E MAIL TO HANNAH AND LET HER SEE THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT BACK FROM MR. COOK FROM DHCD.

LET ME SEE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANKS. MR. BARTZ.

>> IS WELL ATTENDED TO HENRY HANNA FOUNDATION, OPENING CEREMONY.

I THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE.

I HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS.

GOOD IDEAS, SOME GOOD SPEAKERS HANNAH AS SHE IS.

I THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD PERSON THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FOUND HER, BUT SHE SEEM LIKE SHE'S, CALM, COOL, COLLECTIVE, AND SHE PUTS YOUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER.

I REALLY ENJOYED THAT.

FOOD WAS GOOD, AND THE FELLOWSHIP WAS GOOD, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE.

[OVERLAPPING] WHAT'S THAT?

>> LITTLE WARM.

>> THEY GOT IT COOL DOWN DONE. THEY HAD THE PARTIES COOL DOWN.

BUT HOPEFULLY, WE CAN WORK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GET SOME THINGS DONE THERE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU DON'T I GUESS EVERY LITTLE COUNTS BEING, YOU KNOW, DAY SPRINGS.

BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER THINGS TOO, AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ADDRESSING THAT AS WELL, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BACKGROUND THAT ARE BEING DONE THERE, SO THAT WE SPOKE INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THEN SATURDAY MORNING, I VISITED CHOPTANK MARINA.

I HAD A CHAUFFEUR TAKE ME DOWN THERE, AND I WAS PRETTY ACTIVE DOWN THERE.

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CHOPTANK MARINA. IT WAS A LOT GOING ON.

PEOPLE CRABBING, PEOPLE ON THE LITTLE BEACH CHAIR AND A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

>> I DIDN'T THROW HIM OVERBOARD.

>> NO.

>> STILL A GOOD DAY GOOD DAY IN CAROLINE COUNTY.

>> IT WAS A NICE RIDE.

>> THAT'S IT. FEW THINGS THAT I HAD, JONESTOWN BASKETBALL COURT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PAVED TODAY.

>> IT'S HALFWAY PAVED AT THIS POINT.

>> THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT PROJECT, LONG AWAITED PROJECT.

HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE NETS UP.

I THINK IT DOES NEED TO SIT FOR A MONTH OR A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE THEY CAN PUT THE PAIN.

>> THEY USUALLY PUT THE POSTS UP.

YEAH. MONTH THAT WAITS FOR THE PAINT.

>> SO ANYWAY, THAT PROJECT IS PROGRESSING.

JAMIE DID SEND ME A SHARP ROAD CONCEPT DRAWING WITH A BASEBALL FIELD AND A SOFTBALL FIELD, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ON THAT, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE IT, LET US KNOW.

IT WAS AN E MAIL, SOME REALLY PRELIMINARY STUFF.

HE JUST THREW DOWN THE LAY OF THE FIELDS THERE.

DID TALK TO TRISTA ABOUT NORTH OUT AT SOIL CONSERVATION ABOUT THE RIVER ROAD SEDIMENT AND EROSION CONTROL REVIEW.

APPARENTLY, THAT IS DONE.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THEN SHE WAS HOPING TO HAVE CHOPTANK MARINA REVIEW DONE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, LET ME KNOW, PLEASE.

>> I REACHED OUT DIRECTLY TO THE ENGINEERS AND SAID IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM HER, LET ME KNOW.

THEY WERE GOING TO CALL HER TODAY. THEY HADN'T HEARD FROM HER.

>> BOTH PROJECTS CRITICAL THAT WE GET THOSE DONE.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S NOT SITTING AROUND WITH NOTHING HAPPENING.

DID RECEIVE A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS FROM TWO DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.

ONE WAS REGARDING TREES ON SMITHVILLE ROAD NEAR THE BRIDGE.

DID YOU GO DOWN AND LOOK AT THEM?

>> GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU, ROBIN.

THEN, A MINOR DITCH ISSUE ON JESTER ROAD.

SOME LEADS OUT OF A FIELD WERE ERODING INTO ONE OF OUR ROADSIDE DITCHES.

IT SEEMED TO ME TO BE A PRETTY EASY FIX.

I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT IT'LL SOLVE THE GENTLEMAN'S PROBLEM, BUT STIPPING THEM OUT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BETTER.

THE OTHER PHONE CALL I HAD WAS ABOUT DRY GRASS, GROWING ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE ROADS.

THE ROUTE 16 CLOSURE, IT HAS PUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON OUR COUNTY ROADS.

I THINK THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS STARTING, AS ROBIN WAS TALKING ABOUT TO GET UNDER CONTROL AND CORRECTLY BEING REDIRECTED ON STATE ROADS.

BUT, PEOPLE COMING AND GOING FROM HOME AS EXPECTED, BE INCLUDED BECAUSE IT'S A BYPASS FOR ME.

I'M USING THE COUNTY ROADS, AND WE ALL PAY TAXES, WE ALL LIVE HERE.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE ROADS.

I HAVE WITNESSED IT MYSELF.

THE SPEED IS NOT ALWAYS BEING ADHERED TO.

I THINK REVEREND DUNN MENTIONED TO ME HIS DOORS GOT BLOWN OFF BY SOMEONE WHO PASSED HIM RUNNING 55 MILES AN HOUR THE OTHER DAY.

THE ROAD IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR PASSING RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT.

I THINK IT MAY BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO PUT SOMETHING OUT AND SAY.

PLEASE BY ALL MEANS, USE THE ROADS, BUT LET'S RESPECT THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE PEOPLE TRAVELING ON THE ROADS, AND WE ASK THAT YOU ADHERE TO THE SPEED LIMIT.

WHICH IS LOW. I THINK IT'S 35 MILE AN HOUR ON BOTH CLARK HINT, AND BEACHAM BRANCH AND DETOUR.

[01:50:01]

BUT RIGHT NOW, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING AT AT THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

IT'S A MATTER OF TIME, UNFORTUNATELY, I BELIEVE BEFORE WE HAVE AN ACCIDENT OUT THERE.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE'VE MADE IT THIS LONG, TO BE HONEST.

AS FAR AS I KNOW WE HAVEN'T, IS THAT RIGHT, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO ASK THE PUBLIC TO RECOGNIZE THE SPEED LIMITS, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I DID GET TO HAVE A ONE ON ONE WITH GOVERNOR MOORE, NOT LAST FRIDAY, BUT THE FRIDAY THE 4TH, SPENT ABOUT A HALF HOUR WITH HIM AND HIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS, LIAISON, WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING.

I DID A LOT OF TALKING.

COVERED A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS FROM TRANSPORTATION TO EDUCATION TO DETENTION CENTER, SCHOOLS, CONSTRUCTION, OTHER PROJECTS, PARKS AND RECREATION.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING.

HE WAS VERY RECEPTIVE, DID A LOT OF LISTENING.

WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES FROM IT.

BUT I THINK IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.

I HAVE ONE OTHER THING. NOW, I CAN'T THINK OF IT.

OUR LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVE FOR THIS YEAR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ACTUALLY SENT A EMAIL TO MCCOUGH, I THINK I COPIED BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN ON IT THE OTHER DAY, ASKING FOR A LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVE BACKING FROM MCCOUGH TO FREE UP MONEY INSIDE OF PROGRAM OPEN SPACE, WHICH PROGRAM OPEN SPACE IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE USE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY FOR, AND TO DEVELOP PARK SPACES.

INSIDE OF PROGRAM OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS LARGELY FUNDED BY TRANSFER TAX COLLECTIONS ON PROPERTY TRANSFERS, THE REVENUE STREAM IS SLOWING DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING LESS PROPERTY TRANSFERS, SO WE'RE GETTING A SMALLER ALLOCATION FROM THE STATE.

INSIDE OF THAT ALLOCATION, A LARGE PORTION OF IT GOES TO ESSENTIALLY THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF RECREATIONAL SPACES.

THEN A SMALLER PORTION OF THAT ALLOCATION GOES TOWARDS PROPERTY ACQUISITION, AND PLANNING.

WHAT OUR LEGISLATIVE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE, WHAT WHAT I PROPOSE WE ASKED FOR, IS THE ACQUISITION AND PLANNING MONEY TO ALSO BE ALLOWED TO USE PARK DEVELOPMENT.

BECAUSE I FEEL WE HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY THAT IS UNDERDEVELOPED RIGHT NOW AND IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE THAT ACQUISITION AND PLANNING MONEY AVAILABLE FOR ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WE ALREADY HAVE.

I BELIEVE WE'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT INITIATIVE AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO ASK FOR ALONG THE WAY, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO AS WELL.

I HAVE PUT THAT ONE IN.

>> WE GOT OUR FIRST NOTICE THAT THE FIRST MAKE OF ZOOM CALL IS SCHEDULED FOR JULY, SOMETHING. COMING UP.

>> THAT'S WHERE THEY'LL NARROW THESE DOWN, CORRECT? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WE CAN GO INTO OUR CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

[Public Comment]

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING.

ANYONE? NO.

>> GOOD MORNING.

>> MORNING.

>> I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER ME, BUT I'M DOMINGA GANS, PRESENT WITH THE UGERS.

I'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH YOU GUYS VIA EMAIL.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN TO BE HERE IN PERSON, WHICH I PREFER MYSELF.

I KNOW IT'S STILL SHORT NOTICE OF WHAT I WAS TALKING TO YOU GUYS ABOUT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A PHYSICAL APPEARANCE.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I COULD TRY AND UPDATE YOU GUYS IF ANYTHING.

OUR REGISTRATION NUMBERS PRETTY MUCH THERE.

WE'RE NO LONGER DOING REGISTRATIONS.

WE'RE GOOD FOR THE 2024 SEASON.

OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING UP, PROBABLY ABOUT 20 PLAYERS.

THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP FOR SURE.

STILL TALKING TO METAPHAS WITH THAT WHOLE SITUATION.

OUR BIG CONCERN IS THE ELECTRIC OUT THERE, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE LIGHTS, MORE SO FOR THE SNACK SHACK AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO PROVIDE FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT'S BEST AS MY POSITION ON BOARD, FOR THE KIDS.

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NINETY PERCENT OF THE PARENTS FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT, THE OTHER 10 PERCENT, I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT THEY THINK.

WE'RE OUT THERE FOR THE KIDS.

OUR BOARD FEELS THE SAME WAY, WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT JUST DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS SOON.

LIKE I SAID, I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE SITES AT GREENSBORO POSSIBLY OR STUFF LIKE THAT.

WAS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THAT AS FAR AS [OVERLAPPING]

>> NO. WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ENGINEERING.

I THINK WE'RE WAITING ON THE ENGINEER TO FINALIZE DRAWINGS TO GET THROUGH.

I DON'T KNOW WE'RE WAITING ON FEDERAL FUNDING CONFIRMATION AS WELL, CORRECT? WE'RE STILL WAITING ON?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> JULY 12, WHEN WE WILL KNOW WHETHER WE'VE RECEIVED IT OR NOT.

WE'RE STILL MOVING ALONG SLOWLY.

RIGHT NOW, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PLAY THERE.

>> I PLAN ON. I DON'T REALLY SEE SOMEONE COMING IN IMMEDIATELY AND BUYING THAT PROPERTY UP.

WHO KNOWS, MAYBE IF THEY DO, THEY'LL ALLOW US TO STAY THERE, BUT IT'S WHEN WORST THING THAT HAPPENS THEY TELL US TO LEAVE. QUIT PLAYING FOOTBALL.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ELECTRIC COSTS, WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER THERE?

>> I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE BETFAST WOULD COVER THAT.

[OVERLAPPING] WE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT TRYING TO GET JUST A SEPARATE METER OUT THERE JUST FOR THE SHACK, WHICH I THINK AS A LEAD, WE COULD WE COULD HOPEFULLY COVER THAT.

BUT THE LIGHTS THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT STORY.

BUT THERE'S OTHER LEAKS THAT DON'T USE LIGHTS FOR PRACTICES.

THAT'S REALLY ALL WE WOULD NEED TO FLOOR IS PRACTICES, BUT WHEN IS TIME CHANGE OCTOBER? BY THAT TIME, OUR SEASONS GETTING CLOSE TO BEING OVER.

SO WE JUST SHORTEN THE PRACTICES UP A LITTLE BIT.

>> THEY USED TO USE THE OUTFIELD AT LOCKERMAN MIDDLE TOO, SO THAT COULD BE A FALLBACK IF YOU NEEDED TO HAVE A LIGHTED FACILITY, WE'D HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT WITH DAN LITTLE LEAGUE BECAUSE I THINK THEY GET THE LIGHT BILL FOR THAT, BUT THAT MAY BE A POSSIBLE FIX YOU COULD USE AND THEN I KNOW THE FIELD BEHIND HAPS USED TO BE USED FOR FOOTBALL AS WELL.

IF YOU DO GET JAMMED UP, WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS WHERE WE CAN WORK THROUGH IT WITH YOU.

I THINK IDEALLY, IF YOU CAN STAY WHERE YOU'RE AT UNTIL WE AT LEAST GET TO GREENSBORO, PARK UP AND RUNNING, THAT WOULD BE THE MOST IDEAL THINGS.

BUT IF IT DOES GO SOUTH AND YOU GOT TO MOVE SOONER, I THINK WE CAN AUDIBLE AND WE CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT FOR YOU.

>> HONESTLY, I THINK WORSE AND WORSE, I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE BAYSIDE PRESIDENT, AND IF WE ABSOLUTELY HAD TO, WE WOULD JUST AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY WOULD COMPLAIN, WE JUST HAVE TO DO AWAY GAMES OR WHOLE SEASON BE AWAY GAMES IF SOMETHING DOES.

COME DOWN, BUT I REALLY DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING EVEN IF WE GOT TO RUN A GENERATOR FOR THE SHACKLING GAIN DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT JUST TO TRY AND GET THAT REVENUE COMING IN.

LIKE I SAID, THAT IS OUR MAIN FUND RAISING FOR THE LEAGUE.

>> WELL, WE'LL BE HERE.

IF ANYTHING CHANGES, CERTAINLY, LET US KNOW.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE GREENSBORO.

DEVELOPMENT NOTE COMMISSIONER PORTER WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT DONE.

[LAUGHTER] AS WOULD I [OVERLAPPING] BUT IF YOU CAN MAKE DO, I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT INVESTING ANYMORE IN THAT FACILITY THAN YOU NEED TO.

IF PUSH COMES TO SHOVE AND YOU GET INTO DIRE STRAITS AND YOU GOT TO BE OUT OF THERE, WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. WE HAVE OPTIONS.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> DO YOU HAVE A DIRECT CONTACT PERSON WITH MEDIFAST AT THIS POINT?

>> YEAH. IT'S GENTLEMAN DON JOHNSON.

I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SWING BACK THROUGH THERE AFTER I LEAVE HERE AND TALK TO HIM JUST TO SEE IF HE'S GOT ANY TYPE OF MAYBE THAT LEASE US JUST THAT LITTLE ELECTRIC JUST FOR THIS YEAR THAT WE WOULD USE.

BECAUSE HE SAID THAT THE POWER IS GOING TO BE GETTING CUT OFF RIGHT AROUND WHEN WE START CONDITIONING, BUT I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP SOMETHING ON FOR THAT BUILDING.

WE WOULDN'T BE DRAWING THAT MUCH POWER FROM THERE ANYWAY.

IT'S JUST RUN A COUPLE OF REFRIGERATORS AND THAT'S IT.

WE WOULDN'T BE DOING THE LIGHTS, BUT LET'S SEE.

>> WHAT DID YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THE IDEA OF, LIKE, A SPORTS COMPLEX THERE AT METAPHAS THAT I WAS SENT IN THE EMAIL?

>> SPORTS COMPLEX IN REGARDS TO.

>> LIKE IF THE COUNTY WERE TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY AND THEN TO TURN THAT WAREHOUSE INTO LIKE AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY, LIKE BAT AND CAGES, STUFF LIKE THAT.

[02:00:04]

>> I LIKE THE IDEA, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN PURCHASING ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT.

JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU.

I JUST DID ENOUGH WITH THE NORTH PART OF THE COUNTY.

[OVERLAPPING] WE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING ON.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE ENOUGH PLACES THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE.

HAVING JUST A MAINTENANCE COST ALONE IN THAT BUILDING, I THINK THEY NEED A LOT OF SUSTAINED.

>> THEY NEED A LOT OF UPDATE FOR SURE.

>> I DON'T THINK I'M IN THE MARKET FOR PURCHASING ANYTHING ELSE.

I KNOW THE NORTH COUNTY PARK, I THINK IS GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT FOR THAT AREA.

MARY DEL IS GREAT.

I RODE BY THERE THE OTHER DAY.

THAT'S A HIDDEN GEM THERE.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONCENTRATE OUR RESOURCES ON NORTH COUNTY.

>> ANY LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL?

>> LONG LONG WAYS AWAY.

[LAUGHTER] WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROPERTY TO DEVELOP.

THAT'S UNDERDEVELOPMENT THERE.

>> ANY LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL IN NORTH COUNTY?

>> YEAH. MAYBE FIELDS AND STUFF WILL BE PUTTING IN.

>> JAMIE, CAN YOU HELP?

>> SIR, AS SOON AS JULY 12 HITS WE'LL KNOW ABOUT THE FUNDING AND WHETHER WE WERE A FEW MORE MONTHS BECAUSE OF FUNDING? OTHERWISE, IF THE FEDERAL FUNDING COMES THROUGH, I DO ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION LATE FALL EARLY WINTER.

>> COOL.

>> WE'RE WORKING NOW WITH THE STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION ON THE ENTRANCE D EXCEL AND EXCEL LINES.

>> JAMIE, CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME INFO ON THAT APPLICATION SO I CAN REACH OUT TO CONGRESSMAN HARRIS'S OFFICE BECAUSE IT IS FEDERAL FUNDING, CORRECT?

>> YES. LONG STORY SHORT SO AS I CAN MAKE IT.

WE ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR THOSE FUNDS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021.

THROUGH A VARIETY OF REASONS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, AND THEN EXPECTATIONS OF THINGS THAT THEY WANTED PRIOR TO APPROVAL, IS JUST PUSHED THIS PROJECT AND THE FUNDING BACK.

THE STATES ALL HAD TO HAVE THEIR NEW INFORMATION AVAILABLE BY JUNE THE 12TH, AND THE FEDERAL PORTAL WAS CLOSING JULY THE 12TH.

I HAVE EVERY INDICATION FROM DNR AT THIS POINT OF IT BEING POSITIVELY RECEIVED OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO THEM AND JUMPING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE HOOPS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD BE DONE AT THIS POINT, BUT IT CERTAINLY COULD NOT.

>> WELL, WE'RE TIRED OF BEING PUSHED BACK.

>> THREE THOUSAND PERCENT.

>> IF IT'S TIME TO START GRABBING SOMEBODY, WE WE'LL DO IT.

>> SECRETARY HAD BROUGHT IT UP TO SECRETARY KIRK'S DNR, AND HE SAID THAT THE LANDWATER CONSERVATION FUNDING WITH THEIR FUNDING IS AS IF IT'S EARMARKED THROUGH CONGRESSMAN HARRIS.

IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GET ACCESS TO IT.

MAYBE IT'S WORTH THE CALL. I'LL REACH OUT.

IF YOU CAN SHOOT ME A LITTLE INFO, I'LL REACH OUT TO A GENTLEMAN THAT WORKS FOR CONGRESSMAN HARRIS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET IT PUSHED THROUGH.

HOPEFULLY THIS SUMMER.

HOPEFULLY WE START THIS FALL SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> NEED TO OUR STATE GUYS OR THEY ARE INVOLVED.

>> THE STATE STOP EVERYTHING THEY GO TO DO FOR THE FEDS.

IT'S REALLY THE FEDS ANSWER AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD FOR BASEBALL AS WELL AS CAROLINE NORTH IS HOSTING THE DISTRICT 6, MAJOR ALL STARS.

THAT'S 11, 12 BOYS, JULY 5 THROUGH JULY 12, POSSIBLY THE 13TH.

YOU GUYS AIN'T DOING NOTHING COME OUT.

>> THAT'S RISE?

>> YEAH. RIGHT THERE AT CALVAR.

COME OUT IN THE HEAT AND EAT SOME GREASY FOOD AND WATCH THE BOYS PLAY BASEBALL, SO WE'LL BE THERE.

>> YOU'VE GOT THE 11 AND 12-YEAR-OLD?

>> YES. IT STARTS JULY 5 FRIDAY GOES THROUGH THE WEEKEND.

WE'LL HAVE THREE GAMES ON FRIDAY.

THEY START AT 6:00, TWO GAMES SATURDAY, START AT 10:00, SUNDAYS, THREE GAMES, START AT 1:00, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK, THEY START AT 6:00.

>> THAT WILL COINCIDE WITH THE MEGA EVENT OF EVERY YEAR.

[LAUGHTER]

>> I'LL TRY TO FIT YOU IN.

>> HOPEFULLY, IF I'M UP THERE, I'M COMMITTING MY KIDS TO THE CARNIVAL.

[02:05:03]

>> I'LL BE UP THERE.

>> BUT THANK YOU GUYS. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> KICK ME SIGN OFF. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> GOOD MORNING.

>> MORNING.

>> I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF HANNA HENRY.

NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AGAIN, THEY SENT ME TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT ON SATURDAY.

THEY FEEL MORE ENCOURAGED NOW BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS COMING OUT AND BECAUSE OF YOU, THEY'RE HAVING THEIR FIRST INSPECTION TODAY.

ALSO, THE SPEEDING HAS NOT SLOWED DOWN.

I HAVE EMAILS I HAVE SENT TO MR. DANIEL FROM MY RING CAMERA, WHETHER ACTUALLY SPEEDING.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY.

AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

>> FIRST INSPECTION FOR DAY SPRING?

>> YES.

>> BY WHO?

>> WE JUST FOUND OUT FOR ONE OF THE TENANTS SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS COMING FROM YOU GUYS.

>> THAT INSPECTION WAS SCHEDULED.

WE MET WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

THAT INSPECTION WAS SCHEDULED THEN.

MY GUESS IS IT'S PROBABLY THROUGH THE STATE.

BUT THEY MENTIONED AN INSPECTION COMING UP BECAUSE I ASKED ABOUT WHEN THE LAST STATE INSPECTION WAS DONE, AM I CORRECT, DANNY, AND THEY SAID THEY DID NOT COULD NOT, BUT IT WAS THERE WAS ONE SCHEDULE COMING UP.

IT'S CALLED MOR MANAGEMENT OPERATION REVIEW.

THAT'S BEEN SCHEDULED. BUT GOOD.

I'M GLAD. WE SHOULD GET A COPY OF THAT AS WELL.

NORMALLY WHAT THEY DO, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GO INTO EVERY UNIT OR IF THEY GO INTO SELECT USUALLY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THERE ARE, THEY'LL TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE AND AT RANDOM PICK UNITS TO GO INTO.

THEY ALSO LOOK AT THE MANAGEMENT OPERATION WHEN IT COMES TO LEASING, LOOK AT A COPY OF THE LEASE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.

THERE'LL BE A REPORT THAT WILL BE ISSUED BY THE STATE.

>> DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> YES. WE HAD A SMALL MEETING LAST NIGHT AND SOME OF THE TENANTS WERE BRINGING OTHER THINGS UP TO US TO BRING YOU GUYS.

WHEN WE GET THAT COMPOUND IT ALL TOGETHER, SINCE WE'RE ALL WORKING HAND IN HAND NOW, THEY'VE BEEN BRING IT TO DOWN ONE WHO COME WITH BY SIDE.

BUT EVERYTHING SO FAR IS UP AND UP.

>> WELL, THERE WAS THERE WAS A MENTION IN THAT MEETING AS WELL THAT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WAS GOING TO ORGANIZE A TENANT ONLY MEETING, A MEETING WITH THE TENANTS.

THEY WERE GOING TO FIND A LOCATION.

LOOK FOR THAT AS WELL.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

>> DO YOU HAVE A SPEED TRAILER OUT THERE? DID THEY EVER GET THERE?

>> NO.

>> OKAY. I'D RECOMMEND CALLING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR SPEED ENFORCEMENT.

WE'VE TALKED TO THEM, BUT MAYBE HEARING FROM YOU DIRECTLY.

>> I JUST TEXT THEM AGAIN.

>> I WOULD REACH OUT TO SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY.

WE'VE ALL MENTIONED IT, BUT I THINK MAYBE IT'S TIME JUST GO AROUND US AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE SHERIFF. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE GO FOR A BREAK.

>> YEAH.

>> ARE WE DOING A CLOSED SESSION OR ARE WE TALK ABOUT THE FILING OR NO NEED TO DO THAT NOW?

>> WE'VE CLOSED SESSION FOR THAT.

>> OKAY. DO WE WANT TO MOVE JUST GO IN CLOSED SESSION THEN AT THAT AT THIS POINT?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE GO TO CLOSED SESSION.

>> THIS CLOSED SESSION WILL BE FOR THE DISC THIS IS AN ASSIGNMENT OF AN EMPLOYEE, BUT CLOSED SESSION TO CONSULT WITH COUNCIL TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE UNDER

[Closed Session: Discussion of Appointment, Employment, or Assignment of County Employee & To Consult with Counsel to Obtain Legal Advice(s) Authority: 2014 Md. Code, State Government 3-305 (b) (1) & (7)]

AUTHORITY 2014 MARYLAND CODE STATE GOVERNMENT 3-305B, SECTION 7.

>> THE APPOINTMENT EMPLOYMENT.

>> OKAY, AND DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT EMPLOYMENT OR ASSIGNMENT OF COUNTY EMPLOYEES UNDER THE SAME ARTICLE EXCEPT SECTION 1.

MOTION FOR CLOSED SESSION AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> WE TAKE FIVE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Jun 25, 2024 Caroline County Commissioners Meeting

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