Jul 24, 2024 Liquor Board (Board of License Commisioners)

MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS.

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THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS.

WE HAVE EARTH TONES CAFE, CLASS B BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR RESTAURANT, SEVEN DAY ON PREMISE.

[Earth Tones Cafe- Transfer of Location ]

JUST STAND UP.

WE'LL DO THE OATH.

SO TRY TO CATCH YOU BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN.

I GET BOTH OF YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AN AFFIRMATIVE THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE AND THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS EACH ONE OF YOU.

SEAN PARKER, FOUR SOUTH FIRST STREET.

OKAY. KIMBERLY WOOD, ADDRESS FOUR SOUTH FIRST STREET.

THANK YOU. NOW, YOU MAY BE SEATED.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT PURSUANT TO THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ARTICLE AND TO THE CODE OF MARYLAND, THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING BEGINNING AT 9:30.

JULY 24TH, 24, RELATIVE TO THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION.

A REQUEST BY SEAN PARKER AND KIMBERLY WOOD FOR THE USE OF EARTH TONES CAFE, CURRENTLY LOCATED AT FIVE NORTH THIRD STREET, DENTON, MARYLAND, FOR A CHANGE OF LOCATION TO FOUR SOUTH FIRST STREET, DENTON, MARYLAND FOR A CLASS B BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR RESTAURANT.

SEVEN DAY ON PREMISE SALES ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE.

THIS RAN IN THE TIMES RECORD ON JULY 10TH AND THE 17TH, AND WE DID NOT GET ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC NOTICE THEIR APPLICATION, THE SITE PLAN AND THE APPLICANT NOTICE.

TO THE SITE PLAN HERE.

THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT.

EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT WE GOT GOING ON.

YEAH. SO, WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST BE ABLE TO HAVE ALCOHOL PREMISES.

WE HAVE THE MAIN BUILDING, JUST LIKE THE RESTAURANT PRIOR.

AND THEN THERE IS A PATIO SECTION THROUGH THE SIDEWALK, AND IT GOES DOWN TO THE PATIO WHICH THEY'VE HAD BEFORE AS WELL.

AND THEN WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE, I GUESS, NEWER LITTLE PATIO SECTION RIGHT UP AGAINST THE BUILDING.

IT'S IN BETWEEN THE TWO.

SO, WE HAD THAT BEFORE.

WE JUST REVAMPED IT AND MADE IT SAFER.

AND THEN NOW THE PATIO NOW ACTUALLY HAS A IT'S BEEN BUILT AND HAS A RETAINING WALL.

SO, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE CONTAINED THAN IT WAS PRIOR.

SO. BUT YES, WHAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR IS TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ALCOHOL AND HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO ORDER THEIR FOOD AND BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE BEVERAGES THERE.

YEP. OKAY.

ARE YOU HOURS GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME AS WHAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE? YES. CORRECT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

WE WOULD LIKE TO DO EVENTUALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER WEDDINGS, BUT WE MIGHT ASK FOR A SPECIAL EVENT FORM TO WHERE IF WE WANTED TO DO LIKE COCKTAIL HOUR, LIKE DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN THE PROPERTY, BUT WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR A SPECIAL EVENT FORM FOR THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARED OUT BY THE POND AND EVERYTHING ELSE TOO.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO EVENTUALLY WE WOULD LOVE TO UTILIZE THAT WHOLE PROPERTY, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, OUR GOAL IS JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS AREA AND THEN WE'LL COME TALK TO YOU GUYS AT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO, YEAH, THEY MIGHT GET MARRIED DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, WALK UP PRIOR TOWARDS THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW.

SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT PROBABLY TO OR FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT ONCE THAT HAPPENS.

BUT YEAH. AND THE BEST THING FOR THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE GET TREY TO MEET YOU AND SHOW HIM WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO.

HE CAN TELL YOU WHETHER HE THINKS IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

BE A GOOD IDEA OR NOT.

BUT BASICALLY, CURRENTLY AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE BUILDING AREA.

CORRECT. THE FIRST-FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING AND PATIO ONE AND PATIO TWO, AND THE SIDEWALKS LEADING TO THAT AREA.

YES. OKAY.

THESE ARE, AROUND THE PATIO, IS THERE SOME TYPE OF FENCE OR THERE'S A RAILING.

YEAH, THERE'S A IT'S A SMALL RETAINING WALL AND IT'S GOING TO BE BLOCKED WITH LIKE PLANTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT AS WELL TOO.

SO THE PATIO IS RAISED AND THEN THERE IS A LITTLE WALK PATH AROUND THAT.

BUT IT'S THE SAME AS WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.

IT'S JUST KIND OF BUILT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS IS THE LOCATION.

YEAH, BUT I'VE NEVER GONE OUT TO THE PATIO.

OH, I GOT YOU. YEAH.

MY POINT IS YOU'RE.

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I ASSUME THERE'S GRASS.

THERE IS GRASS AROUND LIKE, BEYOND IT, YES, BECAUSE THE PATIO SITS UP A LITTLE BIT AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO A HILL, WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO WALK OUT OF THE PATIO, WALK AROUND AND GO DOWN INTO THE HILLS.

BUT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING THAT.

NO. SO, YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE PATIO ONE AND PATIO TWO.

BUT NOT THE WHOLE PROPERTY.

NO. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE CAMERAS IN PLACE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROPERTY AS WELL, SO WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON EVERYONE OUTSIDE. WE NEED TO HAVE CAMERAS ANYWAY, JUST SO WE CAN SEE IF YOU KNOW FOOD AND IF ANYONE NEEDS ASSISTANCE OR ANYTHING AS WELL.

SO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP AN EYE ON AS WELL AS PEOPLE WANDERING IF THEY HAVE A DRINK IN THEIR HAND OR NOT, WE CAN DETECT IT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING OUTSIDE THE LIMITS. TREY, YOU HAVE ANY? FIRST OFF, CONGRATULATIONS, GETTING A BIGGER SPOT.

SECOND OFF THERE WAS A WALK-IN COOLER AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

IS THAT WHERE YOU'LL BE UTILIZING KEEPING ALCOHOL? WILL YOU BE KEEPING IT IN A CLOSET AGAIN OR? NO, I WOULD BE KEEPING THE ALCOHOL INSIDE.

OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT WALK-IN COOLER AT ALL.

WELL, THERE IS A WALK-IN COOLER.

IT'S JUST NOT WORKING YET. BUT THAT WOULD ONLY BE FOR FOOD, ONLY FOOD.

OKAY. YEAH. SO, YOU'D EITHER HAVE THE ALCOHOL UPSTAIRS OR IN THE BASEMENT.

GOTCHA. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD, BECAUSE YOU IDENTIFIED WHERE YOU WOULD KEEP ALCOHOL WOULD BE JUST THE WALKWAY TO THE PATIOS, AND THAT'S IT.

AND THE PATIO AND THE FIRST FLOOR.

SO, LIKE THEY SAID. SO THAT'S FINE.

YEP. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

HAVE YOU PAID YOUR ADVERTISING FEE? WE DID. YEP.

GOT IT TAKEN CARE OF. THERE IS AND ACTUALLY A $75 LICENSE TRANSFER FEE WHEN YOU COME IN TO GET IT PRINTED.

OKAY. NO PROBLEM.

WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE OTHER PROPERTY? JUST. YOU'RE JUST CLOSING THAT OR.

YEAH. SO, SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING ON? YEAH. WE DIDN'T OWN THAT.

WE JUST RENTED THAT ONE.

SO, WE PURCHASED THIS.

BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THAT AND HAVE A LARGER AREA.

SO THAT ONE I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

QUITE A FEW PEOPLE INTERESTED IN IT THOUGH.

SO, WE'LL SEE. YEAH.

WHEN WHAT DATE ARE YOU GOING TO OPEN.

I'M SORRY. WHAT DATE DO YOU PLAN TO OPEN? OPEN? SUMMER FEST WEEKEND.

SO, IT'S THE 16TH.

17TH. 17TH.

OKAY. IT'S PRETTY IMMINENT, RIGHT? YEAH. I'M OKAY WITH.

I'M FINE WITH IT.

I'M ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, LIKE THEY TESTIFIED IT WAS THERE.

BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME AREA THAT WHEN HARRY'S WAS OPEN THAT WAS THERE AND THEY'VE MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO WANDER TO THE GRASS BY DOING THE RETAINING WALL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO LINE THE WALL WITH SOME PLANTS HERE AND THERE.

AND JUST TO HELP A LITTLE BIT.

THE ONLY THING I'D SAY IF IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS, YOU WIND UP CATCHING PEOPLE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO.

IT'S UGLY, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO A LITTLE SIGNAGE THAT SAYS NO ALCOHOL BEYOND THIS POINT.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING A LOT OF SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY ANYWAY, JUST AS FAR AS, LIKE RULES AND THINGS AND JUST TO HELP US KEEP THE PROPERTY MAINTAINED AND MAKE SURE NOBODY ABUSES IT.

SO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD ALCOHOL AND THAT STUFF AS WELL, AND OTHER THINGS IN GENERAL.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER BEEN AN ISSUE.

I MEAN, THEY'VE ONLY HAD ONE, ONE VIOLATION.

EVERYTHING ELSE I'VE EVER ASKED THEM TO DO, THEY THEY'VE BEEN ON TOP OF IT.

AND MOST OF YOUR CLIENTELE ARE NOT THERE SPECIFICALLY JUST TO GO DRINKING THERE.

THEY ONCE YOU'RE MAINLY CATERING TO THE FOOD SIDE OF THINGS WITH HAVING THE BEVERAGES THERE AS A BONUS.

YES. OH AND LIKE YOU SAID, I'VE ONLY HAD ONE VIOLATION.

AND AS MAJOR AS IT WAS, I DO BELIEVE IT WAS COMPLETE FLUKE.

AND WE'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN CLOSE TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.

YEAH, I THINK IT WAS EARLY THAT WAS EARLY ON DURING THEIR ESTABLISHMENT AT THAT TIME.

YEAH. YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT A MOTION? YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE EARTHTONE CAFE.

TRANSFER OF A LICENSE FOR A CLASS B BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.

I SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS TRANSFER REQUEST FOR EARTHTONES CAFE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SO MOVED. GOOD LUCK.

GOOD LUCK GUYS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU GUYS. LOOKS NICE.

YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AND HAVE THE RIGHT STUFF.

YOU GUYS GET ESTABLISHED. I'LL BE BY TO DO A WALK THROUGH AGAIN WITH YOU.

STRICTLY EDUCATIONAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW PROPERTIES, SAME RULES APPLY.

AND JUST KEEP ALL THOSE RECORDS FROM THE ALCOHOL WHEN YOU MOVE IT.

OKAY. YEAH. IT'S SHOWING ON THE OTHER NOTE, IF YOU DO CALL IN AS SOON AS YOU CAN TO GET ME ON THE SCHEDULE.

OH, I CAN'T GET HOLD OF YOU LATER OR CALL ME PERSONALLY.

PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANKS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A TEMPORARY APPLICATION FOR THE TOWN OF GREENSBORO CAR SHOW FOR AUGUST 31ST, 2024.

[Town of Greensboro- Car Show]

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TO THE RIGHT HAND.

WE'LL DO THE OATH WHILE YOU'RE STANDING.

DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE IN THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

PHYSICAL ADDRESS OR? YOUR PHYSICAL ADDRESS.

ALL RIGHT. BRANDON CUNNINGHAM, 109 ELMORE COURT, GREEN SQUIRREL.

THANK YOU. AMANDA WEAVER, 501 NORTH MAIN STREET IN GREENSBORO.

THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED IF YOU'D LIKE.

OKAY, SO THE TOWN OF GREENSBORO IS PLANNING ON A CAR SHOW AND MUSIC FEST ON AUGUST 31ST.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE GREENSBORO FIRE HALL, CORRECT? YEAH. COMMUNITY HALL? YES. THERE'S THEIR SITE PLAN THEY'RE WANTING.

DO YOU JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN YOUR EVENT FOR THE BOARD? WE'RE HOSTING A CAR SHOW, MUSIC FEST.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.

WE WANT TO SELL THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

IT'S THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. IT IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

EXCEPT IT'S BETTER BECAUSE IT'S FENCED IN NOW.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A FENCE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND.

NOW WE WILL SET UP OVER HERE AT THIS ENTRANCE SO THAT PEOPLE ARE CHECKED AS THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT, AND WE GET A BAND AHEAD OF TIME.

AND THEN OF COURSE, AN ID BAND SAYING THAT THEY'RE OVER 21.

WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY TIP CERTIFIED THERE TO CHECK IDS.

AND THEN AGAIN AT THE TRAILER FOR ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE A BAND CAN BE RECHECKED.

OKAY. SO, THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE TIP CERTIFIED THERE ALL THE ENTIRE TIME.

SO, YOU WON'T BE UTILIZING INSIDE THE BUILDING AT ALL? NO. OKAY. AND THEY HAVE FENCED THE FIRE COMPANY HAS FENCED THAT WHOLE AREA.

THE ONLY ACTUAL ONLY PLACE THAT THERE'LL BE ACCESS IS IN BETWEEN THOSE GATES.

AND THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY PAVED, BUT THAT STONE ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE WILL BE THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT OF THAT PROPERTY NOW.

HOW DID HE GO LAST YEAR? SINCE I'VE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS WITH ANYTHING AT TOWN AT GREENSBORO COMMUNITY CENTER.

OTHER THAN WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THERE'S, LIKE SMALL THINGS THAT THEY FIXED, BUT NOTHING WITH THE CAR SHOW, SO OR ANYTHING THAT THE TOWN OF GREENSBORO HAS DONE.

I ATTENDED LAST YEAR.

IT WAS A, IT WAS A WELL DONE PROGRAM.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK THIS FENCING WILL CERTAINLY HELP A LOT OF THE.

YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT BEING THE FIRE COMPANIES PUT A LOT INTO IT WITH THEIR EVENTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN HAVING.

THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO IT.

THERE IS NO RAIN DAY CORRECT? THERE IS A RAIN DATE FOR THE CAR SHOW, BUT NOT THE MUSIC.

OKAY. ASPECT.

AND IT'S SEPTEMBER 14TH.

SEPTEMBER 14TH.

YES. OKAY.

WE'RE HOPING TO BRING IT ALL COMES DOWN.

MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE THAT ON HERE.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED IN A MOTION THAT'LL HAVE TO BE INCLUDED ON THE MOTION.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED BRANDON.

BECAUSE IF IT DOES RAIN, IF YOU HAVE A RAIN DAY, WE APPROVE IT FOR THAT SECONDARY DATE, THEN IT'S YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND ASK FOR THAT SECONDARY DATE.

SO YEAH, TIMES WOULD BE SHORTER THOUGH.

CORRECT FOR THAT SECONDARY DATE BECAUSE NO MUSICFEST'S.

PROBABLY JUST BE. NOON TO FIVE.

NOON TO 4 OR 5. YEAH.

OKAY. I'M FINE WITH IT.

OKAY. YOU WANT TO DO IT? YEAH. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CAR SHOW AND MUSIC FEST FOR THE TOWN OF GREENSBORO ON AUGUST 31ST OF 2024, FROM NOON TO 9 P.M., WITH A RAIN DATE OF SEPTEMBER 14TH, FROM NOON TO 5 P.M..

AND THAT'S A BEER AND WINE CASH BAR.

THEY WILL BE CHECKING FOR IDS.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS TEMPORARY APPLICATION FOR THE GREENSBORO CAR SHOW AND MUSIC FEST.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. THANKS, GUYS.

GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK. HAVE A NICE EVENT.

I WILL. YOU CAN GO UP AND PAY NOW.

OR I CAN EMAIL YOU WHEN THE YOUR LICENSE IS READY.

YOU CAN PAY THEN. OKAY.

WE'LL JUST MOVE ON AND DO IT ALL AT ONCE OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS, SO MUCH. IF Y'ALL ARE NOT BUSY, AUGUST 31ST IS WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.

GOT A GUY? GOT A GUY COMING FROM NASHVILLE.

HE'S NEVER BEEN TO MARYLAND.

HE'S UPCOMING SINGER.

LIKE COUNTRY MUSIC.

OH, YEAH. I SEE THE VIDEO.

AS YOU KNOW, I'LL BE THERE.

I KNOW YOU SING.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT ME YOU DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T WANT TO. AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

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NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE CAROLINE DORCHESTER COUNTY FAIR BOARD.

[Caroline/Dorchester County Fair Board]

DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM, UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE AND THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.

NAME AND ADDRESS, JOHN KENNEALY 26331 HOBBS ROAD, DENTON, MARYLAND.

THANK YOU, SIR. SO, THE FAIR THIS YEAR? THEY HAVE THREE DATES PLANNED FOR THEIR MUSIC.

THIS IS WHAT THEY REQUESTING.

IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN.

YES. YEARS PAST, WE ONLY DID FRIDAY AND SATURDAY EVENING FOR THE TWO ENTERTAINMENTS THAT WE HAD THEN.

THIS YEAR WE WANT TO TRY AND DO IT FOR THE THURSDAY NIGHT.

WE HAVE THE JONES BOYS AND THEN AMISH OUTLAWS FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE REAGAN YEARS ON SATURDAY NIGHT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO THIS YEAR DO IT ON THURSDAY NIGHT WITH THE BAND THERE.

SAME THING FROM LIKE 6 TO 9:30.

IT'S WHAT I PUT ON THE APPLICATION.

IT'S GOING TO BE BEER AND HARD CIDER.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAMES OF THE TWO HARD CIDERS.

I THINK IT'S HOOP T AND HARD ROCK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE HAD IT LAST YEAR.

EVERYTHING WENT GOOD, NO ISSUES.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS YEAR, IN YEARS PAST, WE HAD A SMALL AREA AT THE END OF THE PAVILION THAT WE DID ALL OUR CONTAIN, ALL OUR ALCOHOL TO AND SO FORTH, BUT MAINLY SATURDAY EVENING.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST EXPAND IT FOR THE, LIKE THE WHOLE FAIR AREA JUST BECAUSE ON SATURDAY WE HAVE A LOT OF THE PARENTS WHO GET THERE EARLY, BUT THEIR CHILDREN ARE ALSO AT THE AUCTION.

DOING THEIR LIVESTOCK SHOWS AND AUCTION AND STUFF.

AND IT'S THEY IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A BEER, THEN THEY CAN'T SEE THAT.

SO WHERE IF THEY COULD PURCHASE UP THERE BY THE PAVILION AND JUST HAVE IT OUTSIDE OF THE AREA THAT WE NORMALLY ALLOTTED, IT WOULD STILL STAY ON PROPERTY.

PLASTIC CUPS BRACELETS WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, 4 OR 5 OF THE TIPS PAPER THAT I SENT.

THEY'LL BE ON SITE. PLUS WE HAVE LIKE 15 BOARD MEMBERS TO KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING OUT OF HAND.

I MEAN, IF THEY HAVE TO BUY A BEER ALL THE WAY UP AT THE FRONT OF THE THING AND THEY WALK BACK TO THE LIVESTOCK AREA, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE MANY TRIPS.

I MEAN, THEY MAY GET ONE BEER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET DRUNK OFF OF IT.

AND ACT UP, HOPEFULLY.

I MEAN, I CAN'T PROMISE THAT SOME PEOPLE AREN'T FOOLS, BUT I DO MY BEST.

BUT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT WE'VE DONE, I THINK THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD YEAR.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES.

EVERYTHING'S WENT REALLY WELL.

SO WE'D JUST LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO EXPAND THE.

TO THE WHOLE PROPERTY OR NOT THE PARKING LOT.

NOT INSIDE THE THE MAIN BUILDING EITHER.

WE DON'T WANT IT TO GO INSIDE THE MAIN BUILDING OR IN THE WILLIAMS BUILDING WHERE THE ICE CREAM IS, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THERE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE IN THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU STILL HAVE THAT ROPE SEPARATING THE CARS? YES. YEP. UNTIL WEATHER GETS US AND WE HAVE TO PULL IT DOWN TO GET PEOPLE INSIDE.

YEAH, WE START OUT WELL WITH IT, BUT YES, EVERYTHING WILL BE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT TO THE PARKING LOT EITHER.

LIKE YOU SAY, IT'LL BE ROPED OFF FOR THAT.

ANY WERE THERE ANY ISSUES AND IT'S NOT BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH THAT WITH THE FAIR OR THEIR GUN BASH.

EVERYTHING'S BEEN GOOD WITH THE FAIR.

LAST YEAR I WAS IN ATTENDANCE.

PAST TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN IN ATTENDANCE. YES.

WITH SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THERE AS WELL.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK THEY DO A VERY NICE JOB AND IT WAS DONE.

VERY CLASSY. I THINK THE TIME ALSO CONSTRICTS THINGS FROM GETTING TOO WILD.

YES. BUT NO, NO ISSUES.

AS FAR AS MY PART OF BEING BOARD, I'VE BEEN AT EACH EVENT EACH YEAR AND THEY HAVEN'T THEY'VE PUT A LOT INTO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL.

I DON'T REMEMBER ANY.

THEY'VE NO, THEY'VE PUT A LOT INTO IT.

OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE BRIDGE BEING OUT THIS YEAR.

YEAH. SO LIKE WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE WHILE AGO, PEOPLE STILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO.

OH. OH YEAH. OH, YEAH, THEY DO.

I MEAN, THEY JUST. BUT YOU CAN'T FLY DOWN THAT ROAD.

MY SON FOUND THAT OUT.

HE GOT A WARNING. YEAH, BUT NO I CAN I KNOW THAT THEY'VE WORKED REAL HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE FOLLOWING THE RULES AND REGS. MR. NEELY HAS ALWAYS WORKED WELL.

WELL WITH ME, KEPT ME IN CONTACT.

WE KEEP EACH OTHER IN LINE.

YES. YEAH.

NOW WE HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT THERE'S A COPY OF THE ALCOHOL AWARENESS CONDITIONS.

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HIS TIP CERTIFIED.

YEAH. YES, WE HAVE COPIES.

WE HAVE COPIES. YES, IT WAS EMAILED SEPARATE BUT AND I DID.

THERE WAS A FEW PEOPLE THAT HELPED US THAT FIRST YEAR THAT WERE NOT FAIR BOARD MEMBERS THAT HELPED US SERVE AND WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THEM THIS YEAR, SO I JUST SCRATCHED THEM OFF THE LIST.

TRYING TO BE UP FRONT, LIKE SAYING THESE.

SO YOU DON'T THINK THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? AND BUT LIKE I SAY, EVERYBODY WILL BE MOVING THROUGH.

I'LL BE IN THE LIVESTOCK BARNS BECAUSE MY SON'S MY SON'S SELLING ANIMALS, AND I'M ALL OVER THAT PLACE.

ACTUALLY, DRIVES ME CRAZY.

YEAH. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE.

I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE.

YOU WANT YOU WANT A MOTION? YEAH. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A TEMPORARY APPLICATION FOR CAROLINE.

DORCHESTER COUNTY FAIR BOARD TO BE HELD ON AUGUST THE 8TH, NINTH AND 10TH.

I SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS TEMPORARY APPLICATION FOR THE CAROLINE DORCHESTER COUNTY FAIR BOARD FOR AUGUST 8TH, NINTH AND 10TH, 2024. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL HAVE A CHECK WHEN I PICK UP.

YEP. I'LL EMAIL YOU WHEN THEY'RE READY.

SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU, FOLKS.

THANK YOU, JOHN. GOOD LUCK.

YEP. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU CHANGE YOUR VACATION SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY COME TO THE FAIR, THIS GOING TO BE THE FIRST YEAR OF GRADES FOR SAYING THIS, TO BE THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO MISS IT.

I'M USUALLY THERE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, I THINK, ARE THE ONLY TWO YEARS THAT WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE WEEK THRASHER AND CORDOVA.

YEAH, BECAUSE THEY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE WEEKEND BEFORE THE WEEKEND.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FIRST FULL WEEK.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME WEEK AS WEEK THRASHER.

YEAH. AND IT'S ALWAYS SO THE STATE WON'T LET US SWITCH IT.

WE COMPETE WITH THE DELAWARE STATE FAIR TOO.

YEAH, IT'S AFTER BUT EVERYBODY'S DONE SPENT ALL THEIR MONEY AT THE FAIR AND THEN THEY GOT SCHOOL SHOT SO THEY DON'T CARE.

THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON TO YOU.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION WHEN WE DID EARTHTONES, I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE THIS SO MANY TIMES THAT YOU GUYS WERE CONTEMPLATING THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU NORMALLY DO WHEN YOU DO AN ESTABLISHMENT.

IT'S BEEN THE SAME ESTABLISHMENT, YOU KNOW, DO THEY HAVE THE PROPER PARKING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THOSE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT? YOU GUYS TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT? I KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S THE SAME BUSINESS.

IT'S JUST TRANSFERRED.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE SAME PARKING, BASICALLY, THINGS LIKE THAT, CORRECT? YEAH. WELL, HONESTLY, THEIR PARKING NOW, RIGHT? THEIR CURRENT AT THE CURRENT LOCATION IS WORSE THAN THEIR NEW LOCATION.

AND THEIR NEW LOCATION ISN'T TERRIFIC, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH BETTER, RIGHT? I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, I TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT IS LIKE THE SAME BUSINESS IN THE SAME AREA.

SO, AND I TOOK IT TO ACCOUNT THAT THERE WAS A BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR.

RIGHT.

YEAH. WAS HE THERE 15 YEARS? YEAH. AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE HARRY AND THEN BEFORE THAT THERE'S BEEN THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE.

YEAH LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW.

YEAH. HARRY'S USED TO BE IN GREENSBORO.

HE WAS IN GREENSBORO. BUT THERE WAS, THERE WAS MULTIPLE BUSINESSES THERE BEFORE HARRY'S.

I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING IT UP THAT THEY LEFT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I FIGURED THAT YOU TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT'S JUST.

AND ALSO BECAUSE OF WORK.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING AT THE NEW LOCATION A LOT, DOING A LOT OF HIS GAS WORK, HELPING HIM OVER THE PAST, I THINK 3 OR 4 YEARS PREPPING TO GET TO THIS POINT.

SO I WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE WHOLE LOCATION, THE WHOLE PROPERTY LAYOUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, JUST BECAUSE I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN IN THERE SEVERAL TIMES WORKING.

YEAH, WE JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT STANDARD OF EVERYBODY THE SAME AND REVIEWING THAT BEFORE WE GRANT THE LICENSE.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED YOU GUYS DID SINCE WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, THEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU DON'T MEAN HIM TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE LIST OF QUESTIONS.

WE TECHNICALLY DO BECAUSE THEY ARE MOVING TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

BUT IT HAS BEEN AN ESTABLISHMENT.

IT LITERALLY MOVING IN WALKING DISTANCE.

OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T THINK, YOU KNOW, OKAY, LET'S BRING THAT UP.

BUT WE DO HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN GRANTING THAT.

BECAUSE I WAS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, FIRST OFF, THAT THERE'S ALREADY LICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS THERE AT THAT LOCATION WHERE THEY'RE MOVING TO.

AND PLUS THEY WERE ALREADY A LICENSED ESTABLISHED.

SO IT WASN'T LIKE THEY WERE A BRAND NEW.

SO WE HAD TO DECIDE WHETHER IT WAS FIT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEY'RE ALREADY A LICENSED, JUST AS LONG AS IT WAS ON YOUR MIND THAT MOVING TWO, TWO BLOCKS AWAY.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OTHER ITEMS. THE DISCUSSION. NEW LICENSE, EVENT VENUE.

[Discussion-New License Type-Event Venue]

CLASS A LICENSE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO UP TO THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGE.

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AND I THINK MR. MOSER WILL BE COMING NEXT MONTH.

IS THAT FROM CASTLE HALL? YES. SO, HE WAS INTERESTED IN GETTING THIS NEW CLASS, AND I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING.

WHY THEY PULLED THERE? BECAUSE THEY HAD AN APPLICATION IN AND THEY HAD IT AND PULLED IT BACK.

THEY PULLED IT BECAUSE THEY WERE THEY'RE NOT DOING THE BED AND BREAKFAST ANYMORE.

AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF LICENSE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GET.

SO WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING EVENT VENUE, IS IT A FULL TIME EVENT OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LIKE, THE BARN? THE COW BARN OVER ORIGINALLY IS THAT I MEAN, IS THAT IS THAT WHAT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DETERMINED? THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES.

I MEAN, A LOT OF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE ESTABLISHMENTS WE HAVE NOW, BUT THE AMOUNT REQUIRE FOOD OR ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE HOW OFTEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPEN, THINGS LIKE THAT HOURS, HOURS.

AND THE NEXT QUESTION IN, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE COW.

I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE COW BARN.

BUT YEAH, THE NEXT CONCERN IS, IS THEY CAN OFFER THE ALCOHOL AS UNDER THEIR LICENSE.

BUT THEN ARE THERE GOING TO BE TIMES WHEN THEY HAVE RENTALS WHERE THEY BRING THEIR OWN RIGHT OR IS IT STRICTLY IF IT'S IF IT'S A LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT, IF IT'S A THEY GOT TO PROVIDE IT ALL THE TIME.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD.

THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT ARISES RIGHT.

SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY HAD THEN THEY WERE OPEN WITHIN EVERY TEN DAYS BECAUSE THEY HAD THAT LITTLE STORE OPEN ON SATURDAY MORNINGS WHERE THEY SELL SOLD COOKIES AND BREADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THIS WOULD JUST BE STRICTLY VENUE.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KIND OF GET TO SET YOUR OWN RULES WITH THAT.

TO, TO AND TO ME IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A NEW LICENSE AS AN EVENT VENUE, IT TO ME THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE ONES THAT TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.

THAT IF THERE'S A PRIVATE PARTY THAT WANTS TO SUPPLY THEIR OWN, THAT THAT'S ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP IT LOCKED AWAY, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SECURE IT? IS THERE IS THERE OTHER SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT HAVE SUCH A LICENSE THAT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO VARIATIONS OF NOTHING SPECIFIC TO VENUES? AND I MEAN, IT IS THE NEW HOT TREND.

EVERYBODY DOING BARNS.

BARNS. YEAH, RIGHT.

AND BUT THERE'S VARIATIONS, BUT NOTHING THAT WOULD REALLY FIT OUR COUNTY.

SO IT'S REALLY UP TO US WHAT WE WANT.

AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE THAT HARD.

I REALLY DON'T, BECAUSE IT IS A LICENSED APPLICANT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, OURS.

ARE THEY GOING TO BRING THEIR OWN ALCOHOL OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO GET FROM DISTRIBUTOR? YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO STORE? IT REALLY IS THE ONLY REAL QUESTIONS NOW BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LEGISLATION IS THAT, YES, THIS WOULD HAVE TO GO TO LEGISLATION NEXT MONTH. YEAH.

WHEN? NEXT MONTH.

YEAH. THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD HAVE TO START.

DORCHESTER HAS. YEAH, IT HAS TO BE IN.

TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

OH, YOU MEAN SUBMITTING IT TO THE COMMISSIONER? CHESTER HAS A COUPLE OF VENUES LIKE THAT.

THE FIRST START. YES, BUT THEY DON'T.

WHAT DO THEY DO AS FAR AS A LICENSE? WHAT DO THEY. SAME THING.

IT'S THEY'LL GET LIKE STATEWIDE LICENSE TO BRING IN THE ALCOHOL THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT DEPENDS ON THE ACTUAL LICENSE, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO SEE.

THAT'S WHERE I QUESTION LIKE WITH THE LIKE WITH CALIBER AND EVERYTHING.

AND I THINK I RAISED THAT QUESTION WHY DON'T OR THE CASTLE HALL, WHY DON'T THEY GET A CATERERS LICENSE? I THINK THEN IT'S UP TO THEM TO CATER WHETHER THEY CATER THE EVENT OR WHETHER THE EVENT HAS THEIR OWN.

IT'S A I THINK IT'S A LOT OF THING, LIKE A VOLUME.

LIKE HOW MANY EVENTS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE COMPARED TO, LIKE WICOMICO COUNTY CIVIC CENTER? I MEAN, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LIQUOR LICENSE NOW, BUT FOR YEARS THEY HAD A LITTLE CONFERENCE ROOM.

WELL, THEY DIDN'T WANT ALCOHOL IN THERE, BUT THEY COULD HAVE ALCOHOL IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

BUT THEY ONLY HAD MAYBE LIKE FIVE EVENTS PER YEAR IN THERE.

BUT I THINK IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH VOLUME.

BUT IN MY OPINION, IF YOU'RE DOING IF YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR RECORDS FROM BUYING FROM DISTRIBUTOR, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

WHETHER THE MIXING, BRINGING YOUR OWN ALCOHOL, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEN IT'S GOING TO GET CONFUSED, ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE TRIES TO DO SOME VERSION OF A BED AND BREAKFAST BUT CALL IT A VENUE CENTER. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE HEARD TODAY EARTHTONES MAY BE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHO KNOWS THAT THEY COULD RENOVATE THE TOP FLOOR AND YOU COULD.

THEY'RE LIVING ON THE TOP FLOOR, RIGHT? BUT LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.

I MEAN, IN AN EVENT LIKE THAT.

YEAH. STEWART WHAT DO YOU NEED TO YOU WOULD WRITE THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION OR DO YOU GET A DRAFT OF SOME SORT? I WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE A HAND IN IT.

A LOT OF TIMES WHAT I GET IS A PERHAPS AT LEAST WITH THE GUTS OF IT, THE LANGUAGE THAT THE STAFF HAS COME UP WITH.

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YEAH. BUT WE OFTEN START WITH STAFF'S IDEAS.

FIRST MILESTONE.

I'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES.

SOMETIMES I DO IT, SOMETIMES SHE DOES IT, AND THEN WE WORK TOGETHER.

WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD GO. IF THIS POSSIBLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS.

WE SHOULD PUT SOME GUTS INTO THIS THING AT THE TIME.

YOU HAVE TO THINK, YOU KNOW, ABOUT HOURS, WHETHER YOU'RE IN TOWN LIMITS OR MOST BARNS OR THINGS.

THIS IS THE TREND RIGHT NOW.

I SAID IT COULD BE IN YOUR NEIGHBOR'S YARD.

SO, I MEAN, IF YOU THINK OF THESE THINGS AND THEN TYPICAL WEDDING THAT YOU'VE GONE TO, WHAT HAS IT BEEN LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN DID THEY STOP SERVING ALCOHOL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS THE FIX THAT TO MAKE IT AN EVENT VENUE, IT HAS TO BE A LICENSED BUSINESS THAT THAT IS HOSTING EVENTS, YOU KNOW, AS WE KEEP GOING BACK, BECAUSE BASICALLY THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO IS COW BARN.

AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HANG UPS WITH THE COLLISON'S THAT THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT THEY WANT ALSO THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO JUST RENT THE PROPERTY AND HAVE THEIR OWN STUFF AND BRING THEIR OWN ALCOHOL, THEIR OWN FOOD CATERERS, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT BECOMES A HANG UP AND AN ISSUE.

IF YOU HAVE A STAFF, IF YOU'RE AN EVENT VENUE AND YOU'RE HAVING ESTABLISHED LIQUOR LICENSE YOU, IT THEN TURNS THAT TO BE A DIFFICULT SITUATION. YOU EITHER ARE OR YOU AREN'T.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, KEEP GOING BACK TO CALAMAR.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WAS IF YOU ARE, YOU ARE AND NOBODY'S COMING IN AND BRINGING THEIR OWN STUFF IN. YOU'VE GOT TO HANDLE ALL OF THAT.

YOU CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN AND WHEN, WHEN YOU ARE A LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT, WHEN YOU'RE NOT A LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT.

THAT'S HARD TO POLICE, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW.

SO REGARDLESS, SOMEONE'S NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY AT SOME POINT.

BUT CORRECT.

WE DO HAVE TO SET A STANDARD, I GUESS.

WELL, CAN YOU STAFF PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR US TO APPROVE AND WE APPROVE IT? I THINK THAT WE CAN, BUT I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR IS JUST LIKE, WHAT IS SOME IDEAS OR SET IN STONE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE OR DON'T WANT TO SEE FROM THESE.

WELL, I SAID TO ME, THE BIGGEST THING IS IT HAS TO ALREADY BE A LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT TO HOLD EVENTS.

THAT ELIMINATES THAT ISSUE OF, WELL, THIS PROPERTY BACK HERE, AND WE RENTED IT.

SO WE WANT TO HAVE IT AS AN EVENT AND WE WANT TO LICENSE FOR IT.

WHAT KIND OF HOURS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? I THINK DEFINITELY NO DIFFERENT AS FAR AS CLOSING TIMES.

NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF OUR OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS.

THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION, THOUGH, BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU DO HAVE SOUND ISSUES IN TOWN.

SO I MEAN SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF FOLLOWING ALL TOWN REGULATIONS AS FAR AS NOISE OR COUNTY REGULATIONS AS FAR AS NOISE ORDINANCE.

YEAH. BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ASKED AT THE BOAT CLUB ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS TO IF WE HAVE OUTSIDE ENTERTAINMENT TO CUT IT OFF AT 10 P.M.

BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE PEOPLE AT THE BIG BRICK HOTEL ACROSS ON THIS SIDE OF THE RIVER FROM US.

RIGHT. SO, WE TYPICALLY WITH AN ALCOHOL LICENSE THAT YOU CAN 6 TO 2 IS TYPICALLY THE CUTOFF TIME OR DRINKING TIME. BUT THAT'S HARD TO BECAUSE IF YOU'RE HAVING A WEDDING THAT'S AT NOON.

RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY.

YEAH. I MEAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GO DOWNSTAIRS IF YOU'RE STAYING THERE, CAN YOU GET A BEER AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING? NO, NO, IN MY OPINION, NO, I AGREE WITH THAT.

TO AT LEAST A 2 P.M.

CUTOFF. IF NOT, MAYBE A11A I'M SORRY, NOT PM 1 A.M.

CUTOFF. THAT'S WELL, THAT'S A NORMAL LICENSE GOES I MEAN RIGHT, I MEAN, AND YOU CAN DECIDE THAT.

YOU CAN DECIDE. HEY, KEEP IT LIKE A REGULAR LICENSE, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT TIME.

AND THEN I WOULD PUT IN MY OPINION, CONTEMPLATE, PUT SOMETHING IN THERE FOR THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY.

YEAH. BUT WE NEED LOCAL OR COUNTY.

AND YOU COULD JUST BASICALLY SAY THAT FOLLOWING ALL LOCAL AND LOCAL AND COUNTY NOISE ORDINANCE.

YEAH. BUT AS FAR AS THE TEN-DAY THING, LIKE BEING OPEN EVERY TEN DAYS, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? WELL, THAT WOULD BE, WOULDN'T THAT BE HARD IF ARE YOU GOING TO HOLD AN EVENT EVERY TEN DAYS? YEAH. YOU'RE GONNA YOU DON'T KNOW HOW BUSY.

HOW OFTEN WOULD YOUR LICENSE BE GOOD FOR? YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR ALCOHOL? WELL, I THINK MAYBE WE DO A MINIMUM OF PER YEAR ANNUAL EVENTS AT A MINIMUM.

NOT AT A MAXIMUM.

YEP. BUT AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM TO HAVE FOUR EVENTS A YEAR.

SO, WHAT IF WE.

WHAT IF WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT THE FIRE COMPANIES HAD, RIGHT.

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IT HAS TO BE FOR FIRE COMPANIES OR WHATEVER, NONPROFITS.

SO, WHAT IF WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR THEM AND THEY GOT I MEAN, THEY GOT TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND EVERYTHING, BUT THEY COULD PURCHASE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR A TEN LICENSE OR A 20 LICENSE OR WHATEVER.

OR LIKE I SAID, IF YOU CAN FIND THAT JUST NOT LIMITED TO FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR HAVE A MINIMUM OF THAT.

I MEAN, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY SOME PLACES COULD JUST SAY THROW A PARTY ONCE A YEAR THAT THEY WANT IT TO AND THEN WOULD THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE LIQUOR BOARD? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE IT HARD.

WE COULD JUST MAKE IT REAL BASIC AND THEN LEARN FROM IT.

YEAH, YEAH.

I THINK WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF US, RIGHT OR WRONG.

WELL, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT FOR PER YEAR, LIKE THE MULTI EVENT, THEY'D COME IN ONCE A YEAR AND THEN THEY WOULD EMAIL US WHENEVER THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR EVENT.

AND THEN WE PRINT OUT THEY HAVE TO PRINT OUT AN EMAIL.

THIS IS OUR DESIGN FOR THE YARD.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SERVE ALCOHOL.

YEAH. YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOME CHANGE YOU GOTTA COME THERE.

YEAH. IF THEY WANT TO PROMISE CHANGE, THEN THEY COME BACK TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.

RIGHT. YEAH.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.

BUT YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO SUBMIT THE LEGISLATION.

BUT STILL IT STILL NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT CLASS OF LICENSE AS AN EVENT, STILL ALLOWING THEM TO, ISN'T IT 40 THE MAX ON THE LIKE THE TEMPORARY FOR THE NON-PROFITS AND ENDED AT TEN, 20, 30 AND 40.

OR IS IT 10, 20 AND 30? I THINK SO, YEAH, BECAUSE DURING COVID YOU COULD CARRY IT OVER.

BUT I KNOW TEN IS THE MINIMUM.

YEAH, I THINK, AND I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR THAT BECAUSE 52 WEEKS IN A YEAR.

YEAH. AND WITH AN EVENT, IF THEY HELD TWO EVENTS A YEAR, A WEEK, I MEAN, A MONTH, THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING A LOT MORE EVENTS THAN THE FIRE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO HAVE.

BUT BECAUSE CALBOURNE, SOMETIMES THERE'S IN A MONTH, THERE'S 3 OR 4 THINGS.

THERE'S EVERY WEEKEND.

THERE'S SOMETHING OVER THERE EVERY WEEKEND.

YEAH. THERE'S OTHER TIMES THAT THERE'S NOTHING.

YEAH. DO YOU WANT THEM TO BUY FROM A DISTRIBUTOR.

DO YOU WANT THEM TO BUY THEIR OWN ALCOHOL.

WELL IF THEY'RE KEEPING RECORDS DON'T THEY ALMOST NEED TO GO THROUGH A DISTRIBUTOR? I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF VENUE, I WOULD SAY.

I MEAN, PURCHASE WISE, YEAH.

YOU'D GO THROUGH A DISTRIBUTOR.

AND IF AND IF WE OPEN THAT UP TO ALLOW THEM TO BUY FROM, JUST SAY, RED LIGHT LIQUORS, THEN DOESN'T THAT START A WHOLE NEW THING WITH THE NON-PROFITS? THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND SAY, WELL, WHY CAN'T WE DO SUCH A THING? WE WE ONLY NEED TEN CASES OF BEER.

WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DISTRIBUTOR WHEN WE CAN JUST GO OUT THERE AND PICK IT UP IF WE KEEP OUR RECEIPT? YEAH. OR NOW ROBIN'S WHOLE DELIVERY THING.

THAT OPENS A WHOLE NOTHER CAN OF WORMS, BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST IN HERE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO DELIVER TO WEDDINGS.

YEAH I KNOW.

AND I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HURT HER ON THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO HELP RIGHT NOW, THE POSSIBILITY OF THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT AN EVENT VENUE LICENSE.

SO, WE WANT TO KEEP IT KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

WE DON'T WANT TO JUST LIMIT IT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

CORRECT. FOLLOW ALL TOWN, FOLLOW ALL RULES AND ORDINANCES, WHETHER IT'S COUNTY OR OR LOCAL TOWNS.

AND DID YOU WANT TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF EVENTS OR.

NO, I THINK I THINK I THINK IN THIS CASE, AT THIS POINT, I THINK A MINIMUM OF TEN IS THEY'RE GOING TO EXCEED TEN IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE EFFORT OF SPENDING THE MONEY FOR THAT LICENSE, THEY'RE GOING TO EXCEED TEN EVENTS, WHICH IS A LITTLE LESS THAN ONE A MONTH.

AND NOTIFICATION TO OUR OFFICE HOW MANY PRIOR TO THEY COME IN, JUST LIKE NOW.

WHAT'S IT, TEN IN THE TEN DAYS PRIOR TO ANY EVENT? TYPICALLY. TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT YEAH LIKE A WEEK OKAY.

YEAH I THINK IT DID MOVE TO TEN THOUGH.

WHAT WOULD THE WHAT WOULD THE COST OF THE LICENSE BE.

WOULD THAT BE DECIDED BY YOU.

WELL, WE COULD GO OFF OF THE MULTI-EVENT.

AND I MEAN I GUESS YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE ON THAT.

WHAT'S THAT? IT'S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.

YEAH. IT'S YOUR DECISION. I MEAN, I THINK, WHAT IS IT, 250 FOR TEN EVENTS.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP. YEAH, WHATEVER.

WHATEVER. AND YOU THINK OF ABOUT NONPROFITS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR A WEDDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEN YOU GOT TO. WHAT'S AN ANNUAL LICENSE FOR? LET'S JUST SAY, EARTH TONES.

WHAT'S THEIR ANNUAL LICENSE FEE? $1,500, 1600, MAYBE.

OKAY, 1000. BUT SEE, IT DEPENDS ON THE CLASS OF LICENSE YOU GOT.

YOU GOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ARE THESE AREN'T NONPROFIT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE FLIP SIDE OF IT, RIGHT? I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY THESE AREN'T NONPROFIT.

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ARE THEY COMPETING WITH ESTABLISHED BUSINESS OR, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE BRICK AND MORTAR ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES THAT PAY, YOU KNOW, 15, $1,600 A YEAR FOR A LICENSE AND THEN THEY CAN COME IN AND PAY 200 AND THEN THEY COMPETE WITH THEM.

YOU KNOW, I THAT'S WHERE WE GOT TO I GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A HARD QUESTION.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT WHAT IF THEY'RE COMPETING AGAINST EACH ESTABLISHED BEER WINE, LIQUOR RESTAURANT LICENSE IS GOING FOR BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY'RE TRYING TO BE THE SAME THING.

THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO SELL FOOD.

THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL, WHETHER IT'S BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR OR JUST BEER, WINE.

I THINK THEY'RE I THINK I DON'T THINK THAT THE MULTI-EVENT IS BASICALLY ENOUGH.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THIS IS ALL WEDDINGS, BUT WEDDINGS USUALLY SERVE PACKAGES.

IT'S LIKE, HEY, FOR THE FIRST TWO HOURS YOU PAY THIS PRICE.

YEAH. BUT UNLESS YOU ADD LIQUOR TO IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, I MEAN, YOU PRETTY MUCH ALREADY, YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING THAT FEE.

BUT IT'S ALSO DEPENDS ON HOW THEY DO IT.

YEAH. AND YOU'RE GOING TO I MEAN, WHAT IF SOMEBODY JUST WANTS TO HAVE A PARTY? IT'S NOT JUST WEDDINGS.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT HAS TO BE.

IT STILL HAS TO BE AT A, AN EVENT VENUE THAT'S A LICENSED EVENT VENUE SO THAT IT JUST CAN'T SHOW UP.

SHOOT. WHAT'S HIS NAME? THE POLITICIAN THAT JUST HAD THAT THE HIS FUNDRAISER OUT TO THAT FORUM.

YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT AN EVENT VENUE.

IT'S NOT AN ESTABLISHED EVENT VENUE.

THAT'S A ONE. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN GO, OKAY, TODAY I'M GOING TO BE AT THIS PLACE, AND THEN NEXT MONTH I'M GOING TO BE AT THIS PLACE.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NOBODY TO BE AT THE SAME PROPERTY.

SAME ADDRESS, VENUE, LICENSE.

THEY DO LIKE OVER THE BRIDGE.

THEY HAVE OVER LIKE 200 DIFFERENT TYPES OF LICENSES.

BUT NOTHING.

I REACHED OUT TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO SEE IF THEY HAVE IT FOR THIS LESSON, THIS LICENSE, AND NOBODY RESPONDED.

SO, EITHER THEY DON'T OR.

SO WHAT DO THEY WHAT DO THEY DO WHEN THEY HAVE.

WHAT DO THEY CALL IT WHEN THEY HAVE LIKE VENUES LIKE A LOT LIKE A LOT OF THERE'S BARNS EVERYWHERE THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING MARRIED IN.

YEAH. AND LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHAT DO THEY HOW DO THEY HANDLE THAT.

THEY EITHER. WELL, I KNOW COW BARN FOR A WEDDING BECAUSE I HAD A FATHER OF THE BRIDE CALL.

HE DIDN'T NEED A LIQUOR LICENSE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T SELLING.

THEY WERE GIVING IT AWAY. YEAH, IT WAS FOR THEIR GUESTS.

SO? SO A LOT OF TIMES WHAT PEOPLE WILL DO WILL GO GET ALL THEIR ALCOHOL.

AND THEN THERE IT'S SERVED.

I MEAN, A LOT OF, A LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES ARE NOT HAVING A LICENSE.

YEAH. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL, IT IS THE PROBLEM.

AND IF YOU BUY IT FROM THE COWBOY AND YOU'VE ALREADY BOUGHT ALCOHOL, SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE TO EVEN THERE'S A PACKAGE.

THERE'S A WEDDING PACKAGE THAT SAYS UP TO $1,000 OF ALCOHOL WILL BE PROVIDED, BUT THEY'RE SELLING THAT IN THAT PACKAGE.

THEY'RE MAKING UP FOR IT.

IT'S STILL A CHANGE OF MONEY, RIGHT.

FOR A PRODUCT.

OR IT MAY BE, IT MAY BE FREE DRINKS FOR THE TILL 2000.

YOU HIT $2,000 OR 3000.

25,000. WHATEVER.

HOW BIG OF A DEAL THAT IS? YEAH. I MEAN, THE BRIDE AND GROOM IN ALCOHOL IN THE SAME SENTENCE.

WELL, SOMEBODY IS PAYING.

YOU CAN GET FREE ALCOHOL IF YOU DON'T SELL IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE.

THAT'S A YEAH, THAT'S A HORRIBLE.

WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PERSON BUYING THE PACKAGE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN IT SOUNDS LIKE VERY, VERY STANDARD.

LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS WANT.

I MEAN, ALMOST LIKE A REGULAR LICENSE AS IT IS TIME WISE.

JUST FOLLOW ALL THE RULES.

BUT NO ALCOHOL AFTER TWO.

TWO. YEAH.

BUT THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO.

YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE WHICH WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO OFFER, WHETHER ALL ALCOHOL HAS TO GO THROUGH THEM.

OR WHETHER THEY I THINK IF THEY I DON'T THINK THEY CAN PICK AND CHOOSE IF THEY IF THEY APPLIED FOR THIS, IF WE IF WE CREATE THIS LICENSE, THEY APPLY FOR EVENT VENUE LICENSE.

THAT ELIMINATES ANYONE BEING ABLE TO BRING ALCOHOL ON THE PROPERTY.

I, I DON'T CARE THAT THEY SAY WE'RE BUYING ALL OUR OWN STUFF.

WE WANT TO. WE JUST WANT TO PROVIDE IT.

YOU CAN'T DO IT. AND NOT NOT COMING IN HERE REQUESTING EVERY TIME, BUT SENDING AN EMAIL.

I MEAN, THAT'S EASY ENOUGH. YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING SIMILAR TO, SAY, THE LEGION.

YEAH. THE LEGION OUT HERE, SOMEBODY HAS A WEDDING RECEPTION, OR THEY HAVE A RETIREMENT PARTY OR WHATEVER LIKE THAT.

THEY CAN'T BRING THEIR OWN ALCOHOL IN.

IT'S A LICENSED ESTABLISHMENT, SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE SAME, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THEY WHAT YOU DO FOR ONE, YOU GOT TO DO FOR THE OTHER.

YOU CAN'T MAKE SPECIAL EXEMPTIONS.

JUST LIKE YOU SAID WHERE THEY'RE COMPETING AGAINST YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET BOTH.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST NOT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTION HAS BEEN RAISED WITH, I THINK ESPECIALLY BECAUSE COLLISON'S BEEN ABLE TO WANT TO THEY GOT THE FEELING THEY HAD THE FEELING THAT THEY WERE THAT WE TOLD THEM THAT THEY COULDN'T GET A LICENSE AND WE DIDN'T TELL THEM THAT WE THAT THEY COULDN'T.

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IT WAS ALL GOING TO BE ON THEM.

THEY COULDN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN THEIR GUESTS CAN BRING STUFF IN.

I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING IT FROM OTHER COUNTIES, IS BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING THEM DECIDE YOU EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER.

THAT'S HOW THE LICENSE WILL BE.

YEAH. SO AND THEN THEY JUST MAKE IT FORMAT WHATEVER LICENSE THEY ALREADY HAVE.

YEAH I THINK NOON TO TWO AS FAR AS TIMELINE.

A MINIMUM OF TEN EVENTS PER YEAR, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS THAT HARD.

IT HAS TO BE AT A LICENSED EVENT VENUE THAT STAYS IN THIS ON THE SAME PROPERTY. IT'S NOT A CATERING LICENSE WHERE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO TO OTHER PIECES OF PEOPLE PROPERTY AND TAKE SELL ALCOHOL THERE.

THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GO CATER SOMETHING.

DO WE STILL WANT TO DO NOON TO TWO BASED ON IF THEY HAVE LIKE A MORNING BRUNCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THAT'S WHY I SAY HOW CAN YOU LIMIT THEM? BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE SOMEBODY RENT A HALL IN THE MORNING OR RENT.

I MEAN, WE'RE THINKING WEDDINGS, BUT I MEAN, IT COULD BE ANYTHING.

IT COULD BE ANYTHING. YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, LIKE, THE NAIL SALON COME IN AND LIKE, YOU TALK ABOUT BRIDAL PARTIES COMING IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS COULD BE A HOTEL.

THAT'S A VENUE CENTER, TOO, BUT.

I HAVE A QUESTION. TO WHAT EXTENT DO WE REQUIRE PROOF OF LIABILITY INSURANCE FOR THE FACILITY THAT IS APPLYING FOR ANY OF THESE LICENSES? IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A BARN.

OKAY? IT'S ON A FARM.

DOES THE INSURANCE COMPANY FROM THE FARM REALIZE THAT THERE IS NOW COMMERCIAL ALCOHOL EVENTS BEING CONDUCTED ON THE PREMISES? THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT UP WITH THE COW BARN WHEN THEY CAME IN, WERE LIKE, HEY, YOUR INSURANCE COULD GO THROUGH THE ROOF.

SO JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.

WELL, BUT SHOULD THE COUNTY REQUIRE PROOF OF IT FOR AN EVENT? IT'S A BUSINESS. LIKE WHEN I THOUGHT WHEN WE GET A LICENSE, DON'T THEY HAVE TO SHOW? THEY HAVE TO SHOW THEIR WORKMAN'S COMP? THAT'S THE ONLY. THAT'S THE ONLY.

OKAY. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS BILL WE'RE PUTTING THROUGH WITH COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE INCLUDED IN THERE WHEN A GROUP HOME COMES IN AND WANTS TO BE WAIVED FROM ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, THE OCCUPANCY NUMBER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I PUT IN THE BILL WAS ABOUT TEN THINGS THAT THE COUNTY APPLICATION PROCESS REQUIRES, AND ONE OF THEM IS INSURANCE, FIRE MARSHAL'S REPORT. ALL THESE THINGS SEXUAL PROTECTION, SEXUAL HARASSMENT PROTECTIONS THAT ARE BEST PRACTICES IN GROUP HOMES. SO IS AGAIN, SOMEBODY COULD SAY, WELL, ISN'T THE COUNTY GETTING INTO THE NANNY BUSINESS BIRD DOGGING THIS ON BEHALF OF RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE LIVING IN THIS GROUP HOME.

WELL, YEAH, BUT IT ALSO KEEPS YOU FROM HAVING FLY BY NIGHT OPERATIONS.

SO IT TO ME, IT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME IN FOR ANY OF THESE LICENSES IS POTENTIALLY SAY I WANT TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE AND WANT A CERTIFICATE FROM THE COMPANY THAT SAYS, WE ARE AWARE OF EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THIS PROPERTY IS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.

YEAH. JUST AN IDEA.

THAT'S WHY WE ASK YOU THINGS BECAUSE YOU THINK OF THE THINGS, THOSE THINGS.

BUT YEAH I MEAN MOST DEFINITELY THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY HAVE A BIG EVENT, A COUPLE THINGS GET OUT OF HAND, ESPECIALLY AT COW BARN.

THEY ROLLED, THEY ROLL OFF THE SIDE OF THAT BIG RAMP COMING BACK OUT OF THE BUILDING, AND THEY COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE EVERYTHING RIGHT THEN AND THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN ALCOHOL BECOMES A FACTOR IN IT.

WELL, YOU OVER SERVED THEM.

WELL IN THE COUNTY LICENSED THEM.

YOU SEE HOW THAT COME.

RIGHT. AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE.

THEY FLY BY NIGHT OPERATION.

THERE WERE NO FIRE MARSHAL INSPECTION, NO INSURANCE, AND EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE MAD AT THE COUNTY.

YOU PERMITTED THEM TO DO IT WITH? NO. YEAH.

INVESTIGATION WHATSOEVER.

I MEAN, ISN'T THERE SOMETHING ABOUT FIRE MARSHALS AND INSURANCE AND SOME OF THESE THINGS? I JUST REMEMBER THEY ARE ALL THE ALL THE RESTAURANTS, HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

THEY GOT TO HAVE FAR RIGHT.

THEY. YEAH, TO GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDED THERE.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT EARLIER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DRINK EARLIER, I MEAN, THEY STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE COUNTY ORDINANCES YOU KNOW, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE CHARGE OF DISORDERLY.

SO, IF THE TOWN'S COME TO US.

HEY, THEY'RE BEING DISORDERLY.

YOU KNOW, TIME AFTER TIME, I HAVE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN ME THAT DISCRETION.

[00:50:02]

HEY, MAYBE BOOST YOUR TIME UP OR WATCH THE NOISE? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S HARD TO LIMIT THEM TO A TIME FRAME BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT COULD BE. IT ALMOST HAS TO GO UNDER LIKE WHAT OUR LICENSE TIME FRAME IS, YOU KNOW, 2:00 TO WAS IT 6:00 IN THE MORNING? YES. FROM 2 TO 6, SIX, EIGHT, 2 TO 6.

SALES OF ALCOHOL. YEAH.

YEAH. I ALMOST THINK YOU ALMOST HAVE TO JUST GENERICALLY GO OFF OF THAT.

YES. BECAUSE I'D BE GOOD WITH THAT.

YEAH. YEAH. AND THERE AGAIN, IT HAS TO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO STIPULATE NOISE ORDINANCES AND STUFF.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN LIMIT IT TO LIKE NOON TO THIS OR, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME IN FOR A LICENSE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL.

WE AND WE USUALLY DO ASK BASED ON OPENING TIMES.

I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY STATE WHAT THEIR OPENING TIME.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AN EVENT VENUE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT IN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPENING TIME.

THEY DON'T HAVE A CLOSING TIME.

EVERY EVENT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

RIGHT. AND WE KNOW IT'S LEGAL TO DRINK, YOU KNOW.

AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY MAY HAVE TWO EVENTS IN A DAY TOO.

YES, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING IN THE MORNING AND THEN TURN AROUND AND HAVE A TURN AROUND AND HAVE AN AFTERNOON EVENT OR AN EVENING EVENT.

AND WE CAROLINE COUNTY DID ADOPT A SPECIAL EVENT VENUE RAG.

SO WE CAN JUST SAY REFER BACK TO THAT WHEN YOU DO THE LICENSE.

I MEAN, WHEN THEY COME IN TO GET THE LICENSE ANYWAY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE DRINKING FROM THIS TIME.

THIS TIME THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT BUSINESS.

SO, SELL ALCOHOL.

SO, THIS SAYS ALL EVENTS SHALL BE LIMITED, LIMITED TO A SINGLE DAY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9 A.M.

AND 11 P.M..

ALL ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THE EVENT, INCLUDING EVENT BREAKDOWN, SHALL CEASE 48 HOURS AFTER THE SCHEDULED END OF THE EVENT.

SO, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE THERE'S REGULATIONS FOR A VENUE NOW.

YES. SO, THE BUT IT'S 9:00 A.M.

TO 11 P.M., 9 A.M.

TO 11 P.M.. SO WHY CAN'T I MEAN IF IT'S AN EVENT VENUE THEY'RE FOLLOWING THOSE RULES ANYWAY.

THEN THE ALCOHOL LIMITATIONS ARE, ARE THE SAME.

9 A.M. TO 11 P.M.

I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE. YEAH, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY WEDDING.

IT'S LIKE GO MUCH LATER THAN THAT, REALLY.

I MEAN, PEOPLE HANG OUT AFTERWARDS, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT.

WAS I DON'T KNOW. SOUNDS LIKE IT SOUNDS.

GO WITH THAT. FOLLOW THE TOWN ORDINANCES.

GET YOUR ALCOHOL FROM A DISTRIBUTOR.

WE NEED NO ALCOHOL FROM OUTSIDE.

MINIMUM OF TEN EVENTS.

REALLY NOT GOING TO DO A MAXIMUM.

BUT THEN I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO SET A PRICE FOR THAT.

YEAH. AND LIKE GREG SAID, IF WE IF WE LET THEM GET AWAY WITH A LESS EXPENSIVE LIKE THE NONPROFITS DO THEN.

SO WE'LL LET CRYSTAL KNOW AND THEN, BUT WE'LL ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT TO BE IN VARIANCE OF A BIG WEDDING VENUE OR SOMETHING AS SMALL AS, LIKE I SAID, UPTOWN EARTHTONES POSSIBLY AT FUTURE, WHATEVER.

ANYTHING. BUT IT CAN'T BE EARTH.

YEAH. EARTH TONES WANTED TO BE IT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET THIS WOULD BE LIKE AN ADDED.

YEAH, AN ADDED LICENSE.

RIGHT. BUT THEY COULD SO THEY I MEAN BUT THEY COULD THEY ALREADY WOULD HAVE THEIR ALREADY ESTABLISHED BUSINESS.

THEY ALREADY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED LIQUOR LICENSE.

SO, THE ONLY THING THEY NEED TO ADD WOULD BE THE EVENT VENUE PART OF THAT LICENSE.

WELL, YOU HAVE.

I MEAN, WE KEEP STATING COW BARN, BUT YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S IN THE COUNTY HERE TOO.

IT'S OUTSIDE THE CAROLINA COUNTRY CLUB.

YEAH, IT'S NOT AN EVENT CENTER NOW.

AND NOW WHAT THEY'RE USING THAT FOR THAT IS YES, THEY DO WEDDINGS OUT THERE.

BUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING AS FAR AS THEIR LICENSE.

WHAT ARE THEY DOING AS FAR AS THE ALCOHOL I KNOW THEY'RE HAVING WEDDINGS.

WELL, THEY PROBABLY HAVE IT.

THE COUNTRY, THE OLD COUNTRY CLUB.

THE OLD COUNTRY CLUB. YEAH.

THEY'RE PROBABLY HAVING EVERYTHING CATERED THOUGH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN OPENED THEIR KITCHEN.

THEY DID NOT. SO EVERYTHING'S CATERED THERE.

YEAH. I MEAN NOTHING'S BEING SENT TO US FROM ATCC OR ANYTHING AS FAR AS ANYTHING OF THAT'S CONCERNED.

SO, EITHER THEY'RE BRINGING ALL THEIR ALCOHOL IN AND IT'S CATERED.

THEY DO IT THROUGH A CATERER.

SO, I'M SURE THEY'RE USING THE CATERERS LICENSE.

I WAS THERE FOR A HISTORICAL SOCIETY MEETING, AND WE WEREN'T ALLOWED.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER LICENSE.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE WAITERS TOLD US.

I THINK THERE'S STILL IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

BECAUSE I THINK, I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT A WEDDING CENTER.

I MEAN, YOU WANT IT SIMILAR TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, BUT YOU DON'T WANT IT EXACTLY THE SAME.

FIRE DEPARTMENTS. ALSO, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS.

DO WE WANT THE ALCOHOL LOCKED UP AFTER THOSE HOURS? YES. UNDER LOCK AND KEY.

YEAH. BECAUSE THEN THE NEXT EVENT MAY NOT HAVE ALCOHOL AND YOU DON'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER STANDARD. SO YES.

OTHER THAN THAT IT SOUNDS PRETTY CUT AND DRY SIMILAR TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

[00:55:01]

WE WANT THEM TO GET IT FROM A DISTRIBUTOR.

YES. SO, SO WE'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND THEN BRING IT BACK NEXT.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT TO GO ON. OUR NEXT MEETING, IT'S LATER.

IT'S LIKE THE 28TH OF SEPTEMBER.

IT'S LATE. AND IT'S LIKE THE LAST WEDNESDAY IN AUGUST, ISN'T IT? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THE NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 28TH EIGHTH.

YES. YEP.

BUT THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU VERY MUCH TIME TO HE'S NOT AS BUSY WITH THE DAF STUFF RIGHT NOW, SO HE'S GOT TIME.

THAT'S WHY HE MAKES THE BIG BUCKS.

YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE. SORRY, STEWART.

WHAT CAN WE DO? YOU NEED OUR VOTE ON.

RIGHT. THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION.

SO IT'S A RECOMMENDATION.

WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO APPROVE THE LEGISLATION BEFORE IT GOES UP SOME.

IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING SEEN IT.

RIGHT. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO.

TRUE. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IT AND APPROVE IT THEN.

WE CAN'T APPROVE IT BEFORE THEY'VE WRITTEN IT.

NO, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING TO GO ON THE 28TH.

IF WE APPROVED ON THE 28TH, THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME, RIGHT? YOU GOT BASICALLY TWO DAYS TO GET IT IN TO MEET THE AUGUST DEADLINE.

IS IT AUGUST? I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE.

I KNOW IT HAS TO GO TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONERS FIRST. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT BEFORE IT WOULD GO TO THE.

TO THE STATE. CORRECT.

YEAH. YEAH.

I MEAN LIKE I SAID YOU'VE GOT A LOT I MEAN THEY CAN BUILD THAT OFF A LITTLE BIT.

THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST SAID, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF GREAT STANDARDS AND LIKE THE DELIVERY THING WE MIGHT HAVE TO LEARN FROM IT.

I MEAN WE CAN ALWAYS PUT VARIANCES IN IF NEED BE.

I'M JUST THROWING OUT THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

AND IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A COUPLE BUSINESSES LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

SO I MEAN THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A NEED FOR IT.

YEAH. AND I THINK LIKE YOU GUYS SAID, I DON'T SEE ANY WAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT.

NO WAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO YOU KNOW, CALBOURNE, AND THEN CASTLE, IT MIGHT NOT MATCH, BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT'S WHAT THE NEED IS FOR THE COUNTY.

RIGHT. SO, THE BUSINESSES.

BUT. OKAY.

YEAH. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD WITH WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

WE'LL BRING SOMETHING. YEAH.

IT'S SOMETHING TOGETHER.

GOOD STANDARDS. MAYBE IT WON'T TAKE AS LONG AS THIS.

THE LAST THING WE BEAT TO DEATH.

SO. AND IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANTED TO GO LEGISLATIVE CHANGE WAS FOR THE MULTI-EVENT.

WE DISCUSSED ALLOWING OTHER BECAUSE ONLY RIGHT NOW ONLY FIRE DEPARTMENTS CAN STORE THEIR ALCOHOL.

FOR THE MULTI-EVENT, WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO LIKE THE JUST THE CULINARY CENTER CAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS THERE.

YOU STILL. YEAH.

THEY DID ASK IF THEY COULD TAKE CARE OF DOING A STORAGE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO IF YOU JUST WANT TO LIMIT IT TO FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR, OR WE WANTED TO REMOVE THAT WORDING TO ALLOW ANYBODY THAT HAS A MULTI EVENT CAN BE ABLE TO STORE THERE.

BUT THAT MULTI EVENT IS ONLY FOR THE NONPROFITS.

CORRECT. SO IS THAT WHICH THE MAJORITY IS FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

YOU JUST THERE? WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER? DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER BESIDE CULINARY CENTER.

WHAT ELSE WOULD HAVE A MULTI EVENT.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE. AND I MEAN I THINK THAT THEY IF THEY CAN PROVE THAT THEY HAVE A GOOD SAFE STORAGE AREA THAT THEY MY FEELING WOULD BE LET THEM THERE.

THAT PLACE IS NOT BUYING TRUCKLOADS OF STUFF.

THEY'RE BUYING ENOUGH TO COVER THEM AND SHOOT.

THEY GOT A BOTTLE ON A HALF OF WINE LEFT OVER AND THEY GOT RIGHT A HALF A CASE OF BEER LEFT OVER, AND THEY NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE THAT BACK.

SO, ALLOW THEM.

I THINK THEY ALLOW THEM TO STORE IT.

I THINK THEY DO HAVE AN AREA THAT THEY SAID THAT THEY CAN LOCK IT UP.

AND MOST LIKE I SAID, IN THAT CASE, YEAH, IT WOULD.

SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE I THINK THEY WERE STILL GOOD.

THEY WERE PURSUING A CATERER'S LICENSE AS WELL, WEREN'T THEY? I BELIEVE SO THAT'S ON THE STATE LEVEL? YEAH. IF THEY'RE BUYING THAT MANY USES FOR IT.

I MEAN, YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING THAT ALCOHOL.

YEAH. I MEAN IT'S NOT BE SITTING AROUND FOR FOUR YEARS RIGHT.

AND IF THEY DO A CATERING EVENT THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO STORE IT RIGHT FROM THEIR CATERING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE STILL GOOD.

YEP. OKAY. NEXT ITEM IS THE INSPECTORS REPORT.

[Inspector's Report]

INSPECTED THEM BEFORE THEY OPENED.

JUST TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, WENT THROUGH SOME VERY STANDARD THINGS.

I TOLD THEM I WAS GOING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE TIME.

YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, I WAS GOING TO GIVE THEM SOME TIME TO GET THEIR BUSINESS STRAIGHT, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH SOME DISTRIBUTORS.

SO, I SAID, YOU KNOW, WITHIN TWO MONTHS I'LL BE BACK.

WE'LL DO ANOTHER EDUCATIONAL INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH.

THEY SEEM VERY RECEPTIVE.

[01:00:02]

I SAID CAROLINE COUNTY IS REALLY NO DIFFERENT.

BUT THE TWO COUNTIES THAT HE HAD WORKED IN WERE EXTREMELY DIFFERENT FOR THE DELMARVA AREA.

SO HE DID UNDERSTAND THAT I GAVE HIM MY NUMBER TO REACH OUT.

I ALSO DEALT WITH A COMPLAINT FROM ONE OF OUR ESTABLISHMENTS THAT KICKED AND KICKED A PERSON OUT BASICALLY DUE TO HIS USE OF ALCOHOL AND EXPRESSED UPON THEM.

YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NO DRAM SHOP LAW HERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE TEACH IN TIPS AND OTHER CLASSES.

SO, WE GAVE THEM THE FULL SUPPORT, CUT THEM OFF.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. AND YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT.

WE'LL COME OUT AND INVESTIGATE IT.

BUT HEY, IN THE END, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT. I ALSO HAD AN ANONYMOUS COMPLAINT ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT YOU WILL PROBABLY BE HEARING IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO.

SO, I'LL BE BRINGING A COUPLE OF VIOLATIONS FORWARD.

BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCHES ON SOME CLASSES THE TIPS CLASSES THE OTHER VERSION OF TIPS BECAUSE I THINK, LIKE I SAID, BE TALKING BETWEEN ALL THE LIQUOR INSPECTORS.

I THINK EVERYONE HAS DROPPED TIPS.

TERRY OUBRE HAS DROPPED TIPS.

I MEAN, I THINK HE'S STILL TEACHING A FEW JUST TO GET RID OF HIS BOOKS.

BUT THEY WERE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEMS. I WENT OUT AND CHECKED SOME IDS.

WE FOUND A DIFFERENT A LARGE VARIETY OF INTERNATIONAL FAKE IDS.

WE FOUND A LOT OF THOSE YEAH, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY BAD FAKE IDS.

AND THEN I'VE CONTINUED ON WITH THE INSPECTIONS.

ACTUALLY, JUST WRITING UP THESE REPORTS AND DEALING WITH THESE, THE COMPLAINT THAT I HAD, WHICH TOOK A COUPLE OF DAYS OF JUST SURVEILLANCE AND WRITING IT UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT JUST STAYING BUSY AND LET THE LIQUOR BOARD KNOW I'LL HAVE A NEW UNDERAGE PERSON I CAN USE SOON. I'LL BE OUT IN FEBRUARY FOR ANOTHER KID, SO I'LL BE OUT COME BY JANUARY.

SO, I'LL BE BACK, PROBABLY.

WHO IS THE. WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT UNDERAGE? I'LL BE. I SAID I'LL HAVE ANOTHER UNDERAGE PERSON BECAUSE I'M HAVING ANOTHER BABY.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A FEW YEARS.

YEAH, IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE WHILE. HE'S GOING TO HAVE ONE.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS [INAUDIBLE] BUT LET'S HOPE NOT.

SO. BUT YEAH, HE CAN EXPECT THAT COME FEBRUARY.

ALL RIGHT, TREY, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON SOMETHING.

SURE. THAT HOPEFULLY WILL NEVER REAR ITS UGLY HEAD, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN CASES WHERE ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS ARE GIVEN TO THE COUNTY OR FILED WITH THE COUNTY, AND THE PERSON WHO'S THE SUBJECT OF THE INVESTIGATION AND THE CHARGE FILES A PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUEST TO GET THE RECORD RIGHT, THE PHONE RECORD, OR THE EMAIL OR ANY NOTES YOU TOOK FROM THE INFORMANT.

AND THE LAW IN MARYLAND IS BASICALLY THIS THAT IF.

SOMEONE FILES A COMPLAINT ON THE CONDITION THAT THIS IS ANONYMOUS, RIGHT.

THAT'S CLEARLY PROTECTED UNDER THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

IT'S A CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT SORT OF THING, LIKE THE POLICE USE.

AND YOU'RE CONSIDERED LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR THE PURPOSES SO IS PLANNING AND CODES FOR PURPOSES OF A ZONING VIOLATION.

SO, WHEN SOMEONE CALLS UP AND SAID, SO WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.

ANYBODY IN PLANNING AND CODE SHOULD DO CRYSTAL THROUGH THIS IS BASICALLY ASK THEM POINT BLANK IS THIS ARE YOU MAKING THIS COMPLAINT UNDER CONDITION OF BEING ANONYMOUS OR NOT? SO, SOME PEOPLE WILL GO, I DON'T CARE.

HE KNOWS I'M THE NEIGHBOR THAT'S GOING TO CALL HIM IT.

ALL YOU GUYS ON HIM ANYWAY.

BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH NO, I DON'T WANT RETALIATION.

SO, YOU MAY ALREADY BE FULLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU GAVE ME THAT.

I MEAN, SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD INTO WHAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING BECAUSE A LOT SINCE I'M PART TIME, I DON'T TAKE A LOT OF THE PHONE CALLS.

SO, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE GIVEN TO ME.

BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FOUNDATION.

AND I TRY NOT TO JUST STRICTLY GO OFF OF ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS, BUT ALSO HAVE INVESTIGATIVE MEASURES THAT GO WITH THAT AS WELL.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE CAN ADD.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHISTLE BLOWER? WELL, WHISTLE BLOWER IS NORMALLY WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION.

WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION THERE SHOULD BE A CONSIDERED.

THAT PERSON USUALLY DOES NOT WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED.

RIGHT. I ALWAYS HAD TO BE A NEIGHBOR OR CUSTOMER.

WELL, I ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS WITH THIS ANONYMOUS STUFF.

ONCE YOU START DOWN THAT ROAD, YOU KNOW YOU'RE A TOM, DICK AND HARRY.

I CALLED TREY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, BECAUSE I WALKED DOWN THE STREET TO GRAB LUNCH ONE DAY AND THE ESTABLISHMENT DOESN'T KNOW WHO I AM, AND I DID NOT DIVULGE WHO I WAS,

[01:05:05]

AND AS SOON AS THE GUY SAW HIM COME IN, HE SAID, NOPE, GET OUT.

HE SAID, YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING HERE.

GET ON OUT OF THE DOOR.

I WAS LIKE, CHECK HIM OUT.

HE DIDN'T. I MEAN, EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS GUY'S ALREADY.

THIS IS LIKE AT LUNCHTIME.

BUT AT 9:00 THAT MORNING, THE GUY WAS STANDING IN FRONT OF OUR STORE, COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY TO GO BECAUSE HE WAS ALREADY INTOXICATED.

AND THEN WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OF THAT GUY BEING IN AN UNDERAGE CAME IN TO TRY TO BUY.

AND THE GUY SAID, ID, AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T HAVE OUR ID, IT'S OUT THERE.

HE SAID, BRING IT BACK OR I'M NOT SELLING YOU.

SO, I CALLED TREY. I SAID, LOOK, THESE GUYS ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

WELL, THAT'S A COMPLIMENT.

ALSO, ONE OTHER THING THAT CAME ACROSS MY DESK IS A NEW ALCOHOL SALES TOUR BOAT OF THE CHOPTANK.

SO BASICALLY, I DID SOME RESEARCH WITH THAT, TALKED TO THE ATCC TALKED TO THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF LICENSE THEY HAVE, BECAUSE THERE IS A SEPARATION BETWEEN STATE AND COUNTY AS FAR AS THESE LICENSES AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO, WHAT THEY CAN'T DO.

AND THERE'S A LOT THAT SAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON.

NOW, IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, THE BOAT, IF IT'S DOCKED, SELLING ALCOHOL STRICTLY UNDER MY JURISDICTION, IF IT'S ON THE WATER, I CAN DO AN INSPECTION.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT UP TO IT.

YEAH. SO, WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO MARYLAND DNR.

I THINK IT'S ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH FEDERALSBURG PD AND I THINK FEDERALSBURG PD FOR WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH ME AND ALWAYS KEEPING ME IN THE LOOP.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THEM AND THEIR CHIEF VERY MUCH.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT HELP, BUT THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME UP.

ME SO ON YOU I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ORIGINALLY EXXON CAME IN.

[Board Administrator's Report]

THEY CAME TO TURN IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, ALL THEIR REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

AND THEN GREENSBORO IS HAVING THEIR RODEO THIS WEEKEND.

THAT'S A COUPLE OF EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP.

IT'S FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, I BELIEVE.

YEAH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

YOU HAVE? THE OTHER DAY I WENT PAST ORIGINALLY EXXON AND ACTUALLY PEPSI WAS THERE STARTING TO GET THINGS SET UP INSIDE THE BUILDING, SO I FIGURED THEY WERE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE, HE SAID. PROBABLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS.

I WAS BY THERE YESTERDAY.

THEY STILL LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE STILL DOING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND STUFF.

YEAH, WE'VE SEEN AN INFLUX ON SMALL BUSINESSES IN STATE OF MARYLAND, SMALL CONVENIENCE STORES STARTING TO PICK BACK UP AGAIN.

SO, IT'S BEEN REALLY COOL TO SEE THROUGHOUT DELMARVA.

THAT IS GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? I GOT NOTHING ELSE.

MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS.

WEDNESDAY, JULY 24TH, 2024 AT 10:38 A.M..

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SO MOVED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.