>> BUSINESS, UNDER THE NEW LICENSE APPLICATIONS,
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WE HAVE U5 FOODS OF BETHLEHEM.[U5 Foods Bethlehem- Upgrade Current License ]
LOOKS LIKE THEY WANT TO UPGRADE THEIR CURRENT LICENSE TO A CLASS A BEER, WINE, LIQUOR, SEVEN-DAY OFF-PREMISE SALE.ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS?
>> THANK YOU. MUHAMMAD KHAWAR, COME ON UP TO THE TABLE WITH ME, IF YOU WOULD.
>> YEAH, I'LL SWEAR HIM IN, THAT WAY WE'RE COVERED.
DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE AND THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> MY NAME IS MUHAMMAD KHAWAR ULLAH, AND 4345 FEDERALSBURG, HIGHWAY OF FEDERALSBURG, MARYLAND.
>> THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.
>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
>> DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THAT NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING?
>> NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT PURSUANT TO THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ARTICLE OF ANNOTATED CODE OF MARYLAND, THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS WILL HOLD A HYBRID PUBLIC HEARING BEGINNING AT 9:30 ON AUGUST 28TH, RELATIVE TO THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION.
A REQUEST BY MUHAMMAD KHAWAR ULLAH FOR THE USE OF NSAR LLC TA U5 FOODS BETHLEHEM LOCATED AT 21926 DOVER BRIDGE ROAD, PRESTON, FOR AN UPGRADE TO A CLASS A BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR SEVEN-DAY OFF-PREMISE SALES ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE.
THIS BUSINESS CURRENTLY HAS A CLASS A BEER AND LIGHT WINE SEVEN-DAY OFF-PREMISE LICENSE.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> GOOD MORNING. I'M WILLARD PARKER FROM EASTON, REPRESENTING U5, THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY.
MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW KHAWAR.
HE'S 59 YEARS OF AGE, HE HAS BEEN A RESIDENT OF CAROLINE COUNTY SINCE 1993, AND HE'S ENGAGED IN BUSINESS IN THIS COUNTY, ALONG WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
HE'S BEEN ACTIVE IN THE OPERATION AND MANAGEMENT OF ALCOHOL LICENSE ESTABLISHMENTS, INCLUDING THE BETHLEHEM U5 STORE THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION.
TODAY, THEY ARE SEEKING AN UPGRADE OF THEIR LICENSE FROM A CLASS A BEER OFF-SALE LICENSE TO A CLASS A BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR, OFF-SALE LICENSE.
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, I'LL CALL IT, OUTLET FOR BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR, MAMIE'S, CLOSED SO FOR A MATTER OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE, IT MAKES SENSE FOR U5 TO UPGRADE THEIR PRODUCT LINE.
OTHERWISE, PEOPLE IN THE AREA WOULD BE TRAVELING EITHER TO PRESTON OR TO EASTON.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION REASON FOR GRANTING THIS UPGRADED LICENSE AS WELL.
IF I COULD CALL ON KHAWAR TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS.
KHAWAR, YOU ARE YOU ARE A MEMBER OF NSAR'S LLC, WHICH IS THE OPERATING COMPANY OF U5'S STORE, CORRECT?
>> YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THIS APPLICATION ON THEIR BEHALF, CORRECT?
>> I SHOW YOU A COPY OF THE APPLICATION THAT YOU'VE FILED.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS IN THAT APPLICATION.
I ASKED OF YOU TO REVIEW THAT PRIOR TO THE HEARING.
YOUR ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS, DO THEY REMAIN TRUE AND ACCURATE TODAY?
>> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE AS A LICENSE HOLDER.
I INDICATED THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN THE CONVENIENCE STORE BUSINESS HERE FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS.
>> AND ARE THE SALES CLERKS AT THE U5 BETHLEHEM STORE ALSO TIPS TRAINED?
>> DO YOU ALSO HAVE A COMPANY POLICY OF TRAINING NEW EMPLOYEES?
>> ARE THERE ANY TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS IN PLACE AT YOUR STORE TO ALSO HELP POLICE AND GOVERN THE SALE OF ALCOHOL SO THAT SALES AREN'T MADE TO MINORS?
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>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHAT THAT SYSTEM IS?
>> THE SYSTEM IS WHEN SOMEBODY IS BUYING THE ALCOHOL, AND WE HAVE THAT SCANNING SYSTEM NOW.
YOU CAN PUT THE DRIVER'S LICENSE UNDERNEATH THE SCANNER, AND THAT WOULD TELL YOU YES OR NO.
>> ARE YOUR EMPLOYEES TRAINED ON THE USE OF THAT SYSTEM?
>> HAVE YOU HAD ANY ISSUES WITH SALES TO MINORS AT YOUR U5 STORE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> HAVE CUSTOMERS COME INTO YOU SINCE THE CLOSURE OF MAMIE'S ASKING IF YOU ALSO SELL LIQUOR?
>> IS THAT A FREQUENT REQUEST THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED SINCE THE CLOSURE OF THAT STORE?
>> WHERE ARE THE OTHER NEAREST BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR ESTABLISHMENTS TO YOUR STORE IN BETHLEHEM?
>> THERE IS I THINK TWO IN PRESTON, I BELIEVE.
THAT'S ALL THERE IS. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ANYWHERE ACROSS MARYLAND.
>> ROUND-TRIP TRAVEL FOR PEOPLE COULD BE IN EXCESS OF 10 MILES FROM THE BETHLEHEM AREA?
>> THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE OF KHAWAR.
I OPEN HIM TO QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
>> THANK YOU. BOARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> HAVE WE EVER HAD ANY ISSUES?
I DON'T SEE ANY RECORD OF ANY. MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> YOU ALSO HAVE THE U5 IN FEDERALSBURG?
>> YES, SIR. I'M RUNNING THAT ONE.
>> HONESTLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO.
>> LET ME INTERJECT THERE THAT THE BOARD DID ANSWER SEVERAL OTHER QUESTIONS IN REGARD TO THE PUBLIC NEED AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT.
HOW MANY TIPS EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE?
>> I'VE GOT I THINK FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM.
>> YOU HAVE FOUR OR FIVE EMPLOYEES?
>> MELISSA, AND SANJ, AND MY BROTHER ANJAY.
>> THAT'S THREE AND THEN WE ARE TWO.
>> THAT'S ALL THE EMPLOYEES YOU HAVE?
>> THE TOTAL OF FIVE. WHAT IS YOUR PROCESS WITH SCANNING THOSE IDS? DO YOU JUST SCAN THEM?
>> YOU'RE NOT LOOKING TO SEE IF THOSE ARE ACTUAL LICENSES OR NOT?
>> NO, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
YOU LOOK AT THE FACE AND THEN YOU SCAN.
>> YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FACE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DATE OF BIRTH, AND THEN YOU'RE SCANNING?
>> BECAUSE IF YOU GET INTO THE HABIT OF JUST SCANNING, THAT CAN BE A REAL ISSUE.
>> NO. YOU DON'T JUST GET THE HABIT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK THE PICTURE.
>> IF THEY BELONG TO THEM, NOT ANYBODY ELSE.
>> WE'VE HAD THAT INSTANCES BEFORE, WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST SCANNING AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE FACE OR THE DATE OF BIRTH, AND PEOPLE FIND THAT THE SCANNERS ARE JUST A THING, JUST SCANNING.
JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT. THAT'S ALL.
>> WE DO BUT SOMETIMES THOSE PICTURES ARE SO CLOSE AND WE DON'T HAVE NO WAY TO TELL.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP LOOKING AT THEM, AND THEN THE CUSTOMER GET MAD.
>> THEN YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT KIND OF PEOPLE.
>> I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORT IN GETTING THE SCANNERS BECAUSE IT DEFINITELY HELPS, BUT IT'S JUST A TOOL.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN GO BY.
A LOT OF TIMES WITH THESE SCANNERS, YOU CAN TAKE A MVP CARD FROM FOOD LINE AND THEY'RE SCANNING IT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE [INAUDIBLE] AND THE PICTURE.
>> I'M JUST SAYING THAT ANY BARCODE WILL SCAN, SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE ONLY USING IT AS A TOOL.
>> BUT THE PROBLEM BEFORE WITH THE SCANNER WILL HELP US.
THIS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT, OKAY, THIS DATE IS GOOD OR NOT GOOD, YOU WILL ALWAYS GET CONFUSED.
>> LIKE I SAID, SOMEBODY CAN GO IN THERE WITH A FAKE ID? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S NOT A DEFENSE, I'M JUST SAYING THAT.
>> JUST AS YOU REALIZE IT'S A TOOL, THAT'S ALL.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR HIM, GOOD IDEA FOR THE COMMUNITY.
>> BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MAKE A VOTE, WE HAVE SOME DECISION ITEMS,
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A LIST THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH.THE FIRST IS THE PUBLIC NEED AND DESIRE FOR THE LICENSE, I THINK WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT.
>> I THINK WE'VE ESTABLISHED- [OVERLAPPING]
>> WITH MAMIE'S CLOSING, AND THERE'S NOT ANYONE CLOSE BY THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC NEED.
>> THE NUMBER AND LOCATION OF EXISTING LICENSE HOLDERS. THEY'VE COVERED THAT.
YOU'VE GOT SUCH A DISTANCE BETWEEN, THE LICENSE HOLDERS THAT WOULD BE CLOSE TO IT.
>> IT'S CLOSE TO 10 MILES, I WOULD SAY.
A LITTLE LESS, BUT IT'S CLOSE.
>> THE POTENTIAL EFFECT ON EXISTING LICENSE HOLDERS AND LICENSES WHICH THE APPLICATIONS MADE, THERE'S NO EFFECT BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY RIGHT IN THAT DIRECT VICINITY.
>> THE POTENTIAL COMMONALITY AND UNIQUENESS OF THE SERVICES AND PRODUCTS TO BE OFFERED BY THE BUSINESS OR APPLICANT.
>> EVEN IF SOMEONE WAS TO REOPEN MAMIE'S, YOU'RE STILL ONLY TALKING TWO STORES WITHIN AN 8-10 MILE SPAN, SO I DO NOT THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BECOME AN ISSUE.
>> THE IMPACT ON THE LICENSE FOR WHICH THE APPLICATION IS MADE ON THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ISSUES RELATED TO CRIME, TRAFFIC, PARKING, CONVENIENCE, AND WHATNOT.
>> THAT STORE HAS GREAT PARKING AND EASY ACCESS IN AND OUT OF IT.
HE ALREADY HAS A LICENSE, JUST A LICENSE OF A DIFFERENT TYPE.
>> CORRECT. ANY OTHER FACTORS THE BOARD CONSIDERS NECESSARY? I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S ANY OTHER FACTORS THERE.
THE BOARD SHALL DENY A LICENSE APPLICATION IF THE BOARD DETERMINES THAT NUMBER 1, THE GRANTING OF THE LICENSE IS NOT NECESSARILY TO ACCOMMODATE TO THE PUBLIC.
>> IT WAS TESTIFIED BY THE ATTORNEY THAT THEY HAVE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE.
I ASKED FOR THEM TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.
>> THE APPLICANT IS NOT A FIT PERSON TO RECEIVE THE LICENSE?
>> THEY HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE THAT.
>> WE'VE COVERED THAT. THE APPLICANT HAS MADE A MATERIAL FALSE STATEMENT IN THE APPLICATION.
>> I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S A FACTOR.
>> THE APPLICANT HAS ACTED FRAUDULENTLY IN CONNECTION WITH THE APPLICATION.
>> IF THE LICENSE IS ISSUED, THE OPERATION IS AUTHORIZED BY THE LICENSE WOULD UNDULY DISTURB THE PIECE OF THE RESIDENCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND LOCATION DESCRIBED IN THE APPLICATION.
>> I DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE.
>> I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE.
>> HAVE ALL OF THE FEES BEEN PAID?
>> THEY PAID THE APPLICATION FEE.
THEY WOULD NEED TO PAY THE ADVERTISING FEE.
>> NO, I'M FINE, IF WHOEVER MAKES A MOTION, JUST ANY OUTSTANDING ITEMS?
>> NO, HE'S ALREADY GOTTEN THE SCANNER, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY GOOD STEP FORWARD.
>> THEY DON'T USUALLY PAY THE LICENSE FEE UNTIL IT'S APPROVED ANYWAY, CORRECT?
>> HE WOULDN'T GET HIS LICENSE WITHOUT PAYING THE LICENSE FEE.
>> AT WHAT TIME ONCE GRANTED THE LICENSE WOULD YOU START CARRYING LIQUOR?
>> HOW SOON WILL YOU EXPAND YOUR INVENTORY AND BEGIN SELLING LIQUOR?
>> WE'RE GOING TO START A LITTLE SLOWLY LIKE WE DID, PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE] A COUPLE HERE AND THERE, AND THEN WE'LL GO ON THE DEMAND OF THE PEOPLE.
>> IF YOU'RE GRANTED THE LICENSE TODAY AND YOU PAY YOUR FEES, YOU WOULD BE PLACING YOUR ORDERS PROBABLY NEXT WEEK?
>> DO YOU USUALLY CHECK WHEN YOU GET READY TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE RARE, I GUESS.
HE'S THERE IF YOU WANT HIM TO CHECK AS YOU BRING YOUR STUFF IN, JUST IN CASE THERE'S NO PROBLEMS.
>> HE'LL BE INSPECTED BY ME, HE'LL BE INSPECTED BY THE STATE, AND THE STATE WILL MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS NO TRADE VIOLATIONS, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO ADVERTISEMENT VIOLATIONS.
I'LL STRICTLY GO BY WHAT STATE LAW IS, THAT WE'RE FOLLOWED WITH THE COUNTY.
EVERYTHING, JUST AS YOU'VE BEEN DOING, I'VE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THAT STORE AT ALL, SO CONTINUE THAT GOOD WORK.
>> SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? [BACKGROUND]
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AN UPGRADE TO U5 FOODS IN BETHLEHEM, MARYLAND, FOR AN APPLICATION TO UPGRADE THEIR LICENSE FROM CLASS A BEER AND WINE TO CLASS A BEER, AND WINE, AND LIQUOR, PROVIDING THEY PAY THE ALL NECESSARY FEES.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS UPGRADE TO
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THE LICENSE FOR U5 FOODS AT BETHLEHEM.>> I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
>> WE'LL TRY TO DO A GOOD JOB.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE NOT HAD ANY ISSUE.
>> HE MAKES A VERY GOOD PIZZA.
>> BECAUSE HE'S REAL CLOSE TO OUR HOUSE.
>> OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS WOULD BE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
[Caroline County Chamber of Commerce- Dinner at Cow Barn]
>> DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE AND THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> TRACY SNYDER, 8907 OSTERMAN COURT DENTON, MARYLAND.
>> THANK YOU. NOW YOU MAY BE SEATED.
>> THE CHAMBER IS REQUESTING TWO THINGS.
THEY'RE HAVING A DINNER ON SEPTEMBER 14TH.
THEY WANT TO HAVE THE DINNER FROM 5:00-10:00 AND CASH BAR, BEER, AND WINE, CORRECT?
>> BEFORE THAT, THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING A LIQUOR WINE-TASTING LICENSE FROM 11:00 TO.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CHARCUTERIE AND A WINE PAIR.
>> JUST A DIFFERENT EVENT? IS THAT WHY IT'S TWO?
>> RIGHT. WHEN I QUICKLY GOT IT IN THERE, I DIDN'T PUT THE RIGHT TIME ON THERE.
WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WINE TASTING.
WE'RE USING CROW WINERY. WE'LL HAVE CHARCUTERIE.
IT'S 11:00 TO 3:00. THEY'LL GET FOUR ONE-OUNCE POURS.
I'M ONE OF THE TIPS OF FIVE PEOPLE.
WE'VE ALSO ASKED ANDY ROBAR, WHO HAS DONE MANY OF OUR EVENTS AT THE COW BARN.
AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THEM TO BE ABLE TO BUY A GLASS OF WINE OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY'LL HAVE CHARCUTERIE, WINE, LEAVE, AND THEN AT 5 O'CLOCK THE DINNER PATRONS WILL COME IN AND WE'LL DO BEER AND WINE TO PAIR WITH THE DINNER, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SELL.
NO TASTING. JUST SELL SOME BEER AND WINE WITH THE DINNER.
>> SO IT WON'T BE THE SAME PEOPLE.
>> IT SHOULD NOT. IF IT IS THEY'LL HAVE TWO HOURS IN BETWEEN OF NOTHING RIGHT BEFORE THEY SIT DOWN TO EAT DINNER.
IT'S LIKE IT'S APPETIZER DESSERT, A FULL-ON COURSE MEAL WITH DAVID NELLER.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW CHEF DAVID, BUT HE'S BEEN AT THE WARD ROOM, AND HE'S ALSO BEEN A PRIVATE CHEF FOR MR. PRAGER IN EASTON.
IT'S JUST AN IDEA TO HAVE AT THE BAR AND THE BARN HAD AN OPENING.
WE TALKED WITH CROW AND WE'LL JUST HAVE FOUR WINES. THAT'S IT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT.
IT WILL BE TWO WHITE, TWO REDS.
>> THEY'RE LETTING US SERVE IT.
THEY CAN'T SHOW UP THERE BECAUSE IT'S A SATURDAY AT THE VINEYARD, SO WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE ALL OF IT.
AGAIN, WE'RE DOING JUST THE ONE OUNCE POURS FOR THE TASTING. WE'RE SELLING THIS.
>> ONLY IF YOU LET US, BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO.
MAYBE FOR A TABLE FOR DINNER, IF THEY WANT TO BUY A BOTTLE FOR THE TABLE FOR DINNER THAT NIGHT INSTEAD OF BUY THE GLASS.
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE WOULD DO.
NOTHING TO GO OUT, NOTHING LIKE THAT, JUST SIMPLY TASTINGS AND IF THEY WANT TO BUY SOMETHING BY THE GLASS.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE DRINKING TOO MUCH.
>> THE TASTINGS IS JUST A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FOR THE TASTING FOR THAT EVENT.
>> THERE'S A COST TO THE TICKET, RIGHT?
>> YES. THERE'S A PRICE TO GET IN AND THEN THEY'LL GET TO HAVE THE SCOOTER DO ALL THE THINGS.
LOVE MUSIC. IF IT'S WEATHER PERMITTING YOU'LL BE OUTSIDE., IF IT'S RAINING, THAT'S NICE THING ABOUT THE BAR THAT CAN BE INSIDE.
>> CROW'S PROVIDING THE ALCOHOL.
ARE YOU PURCHASING THE ALCOHOL FROM CROW?
>> WE'RE GOING TO BUY IT FROM CROW BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE REAL SHORT STAFFED.
WE'RE WORKING OUT THE FINAL DETAILS WITH THEM AND THE COW BARN BETWEEN US WILL PICK IT UP.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE CHEF TO SEE HOW MANY BOTTLES WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE FOR DINNER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
THEN FOR THE TASTING, IT'LL BE DETERMINED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE BUY TICKETS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WE'RE GOING TO WORK THAT OUT.
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THEY TO OFFER A BOTTLE FOR THE TABLE.PROBABLY JUST TO DO IT BY THE GLASS.
>> YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF COMBINATIONS HERE AND THEY GO STATE COUNTY, STATE COUNTY FROM WHAT I SEE. YEAH, IT WORKS.
IF YOU'D RATHER US JUST SAY BY THE GLASS, 100%.
NO QUERIES AT ALL, WE'VE NOT PROMOTED ANYTHING YET.
>> I THING IT WILL BE BETTER OFF TO STAY BY THE GLASS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE MONEY OFF OF IT.
>> NO. I THINK THERE ARE POTENTIALS THERE THAT OKAY THEY BOUGHT TWO DIFFERENT BOTTLES OF WINE AT DINNER AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WE DIDN'T DRINK IT ALL.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT WITH US AND THAT'S GOING TO BECOME A PROBLEM SO I THINK YOU'RE BETTER OFF TO JUST BUY THE GLASS.
>> THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING IF YOU WERE SELLING BOTTLES OF WINE OR HOW THAT WAS WORKING BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WALK OUT WITH IT.
I DIDN'T DRINK ALL THIS. I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS TIME WITH ME.
>> YES. YOU REPRESENTING CROW, BUT IF YOU'RE BUYING IT, LIKE THERE'S A WAY WAY AROUND EVERYTHING.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT WAY.
>> NO BOTTLES SIMPLY BUY THE GLASS, FINE.
>> THERE'S ONLY TWO OPTIONS FOR THE MEAL.
IT'S GOING TO BE MEAT, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING AND THEN A VEGAN OPTION.
>> I'M ASSUMING MAYBE THE RAMP TO GET UP THERE. THAT NEWLY PAVED?
>> YES. WE'LL DO JUST I THINK FOR DINNER, WE'RE GOING TO OFFER ONE WHITE AND A RED.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MULTIPLE CHOICE.
IT'S NOT A TASTING AT THE DINNER.
IT'S SIMPLY AND THEN WE'LL HAVE BEER, TWO CHOICES AGAIN.
I'M A TWO CHOICE KIND OF GIRL FOR THIS THINGS.
AN IPA AND LIKE MICK ALTER OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S IT. NOTHING OVER THE TOP.
I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE MYSELF.
>> CALLS ME TO THINK THIS MORNING.
I'M LIKE, HOW ARE WE DOING THAT? YEAH, THAT WORKS OUT GOOD.
>> I THOUGHT SO. I DO TRY TO MAKE SURE I GO COVER MY BASES AND YOU UNDERSTAND. BUT IT IS NO.
>> BUT YOU TRACE SET INSIDE, BUT IF THE WEATHER'S NICE FOR THE WINE TASTING, YOU'RE HOPING TO MAYBE GO TO THE OUTSIDE.
BUT WITHIN THE CONTAINED AREA THAT'S ALWAYS.
IT'LL BE IN THEIR BACK AREA LIKE WHERE WE DID ROCK.
>> STRICTLY THE BACK YARD THEN.
>> YES, CERTAINLY. THEY HAVE THE PORTABLE THAT'S OUT AROUND THE FRONT THAT THEY CAN USE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A WE'RE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OUT.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME, BUT IT'S A SHOT.
>> SOUNDS LIKE SIMILAR TO LIKE THE JAZZ FESTIVAL THAT WAS THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> BUT IT'S REALLY AN EXCLUSIVE WINE TASTING AT THE BARN. THAT'S IT.
>> YOU HAVE A GREAT PASS AS FAR AS ME AT MY INSPECTIONS, YOU HAVE A GREAT PASS, SO NO ISSUES HERE.
THE WINE TASTING 11:00 TO 3:00 AND THEN THE DINNER IS 5:00 TO 10:00.
>> IT'S 5:00 TO EIGHT, BUT WE LIKE TO KEEP THE LICENSE A LITTLE BIT PAST THAT.
>> WE'LL LEAVE IT 5:00 TO 10:00.
>> WELL, ARE YOU FINE WITH IT?
>> WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT SEPARATE.
>> IT'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS SO WE SHOULD DO TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS. CORRECT.
>> THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
>> YOU WANT ME TO GO WITH THIS ONE?
>> YEAH, YOU CAN DO THEM BOTH IF YOU WANT.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR SEPTEMBER 14TH WINE TASTING AND CHARCUTERIE FROM 11:00 TO 3:00.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS WINE TASTING FOR SEPTEMBER 14.
>> I WILL ALSO MAKE A MOTION FOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO HAVE THEIR SEPTEMBER 14TH DINNER AT THE COW BARN FROM 5:00 TO 10:00.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS TEMPORARY LICENSE FOR THE DINNER ON SEPTEMBER 14TH.
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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.>> YES. I'M GOING TO BACK FOR [INAUDIBLE]
OUR OTHER ITEMS IS 2025 LEGISLATIVE REQUEST.
[2025 Legislative Requests]
ONE IS DISCUSSION ON THE NEW LICENSE CLASS EVENT VENUE.>> YES. SO AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU REQUESTED A DRAFT SO I'VE COME UP WITH A DRAFT.
I LOOKED OVER AT THE CAROLINE COUNTY EVENT VENUE LICENSE.
NEW CLASS OF LICENSE HAS TO BE AN APPROVED EVENT VENUE UNDER SECTION 17547 RURAL SPECIAL EVENT VENUES.
THE LICENSE AUTHORIZES THE LICENSE HOLDER TO SELL BEER, WINE OR LIQUOR FOR ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
THE NUMBER OF DAYS FOR AN LICENSE MAY BE USED BY A SINGLE APPLICANT MAY NOT EXCEED 40 PER CALENDAR YEAR.
AN EVENT LICENSE SHALL BE ISSUED FOR ONE PREMISE ONLY AND TO THE SAME APPLICANT FOR ALL THE EVENTS.
THE LICENSE MAY NOT BE TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
THE LICENSE HOLDER MAY PROVIDE BEER WINE AND LIQUOR DURING THE HOUR SET FORTH IN SECTION 17547 OF THE WORLD SPECIAL EVENT VENUES.
THE LICENSE HOLDER MUST PURCHASE ALCOHOL THROUGH A DISTRIBUTOR, AN ESTABLISHMENT FOR WHICH THE LICENSE ISSUED IS SUBJECT TO THE ALCOHOL AWARENESS TRAINING REQUIREMENTS UNDER SECTION 4-505 AND 15-1902 OF THIS ARTICLE.
JUST LIKE THE MULTI EVENT LICENSE, SAME SO $250, NOT MORE THAN 10 EVENTS PER YEAR, 500 FOR NOT MORE THAN 20, 750 FOR NOT MORE THAN 30 AND THEN 1,000 FOR NOT MORE THAN 40.
>> THIS IS ONE IN FOR SOMETHING.
>> YEAH. LEGISLATION CHANGE FOR LIKE COW BARN WAS ONE.
I THINK ANOTHER ONE WAS THE CASTLE HALL.
>> YES. SO THIS HAS A SUPPORT LETTER HAS TO GO TO THE COMMISSIONERS AT THEIR SEPTEMBER 25TH MEETING, I BELIEVE.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THIS.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BECAUSE THE OUTSIDE MENUS LIKE COW BARN, THEY'RE GETTING TO BE, YOU DON'T SEE ANY WEDDING RECEPTIONS AND STUFF IN FIRE HALL ANYMORE.
AS A DISCUSSION HAS BEEN WITH, I KEEP GOING BACK TO COW BARN BUT THEY'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH A FEW TIMES ABOUT GETTING A LICENSE, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO.
THIS IS, I THINK, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO WITH. THIS IS THE FUTURE.
IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND CAROLINE COUNTY WE SEEM TO GO WITH WHAT A LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES GO WITH, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO HELP US OUT IN THE LONG RUN, ESPECIALLY IF WE WERE TO HAVE A VIOLATION.
>> IS THERE OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE THIS?
>> IT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOING.
>> EITHER THEY USE STATE CATERERS LICENSE OR THEY FORCE IT INTO A ON-PREMISE AND THEY MAKE IT WORK FOR THEIR OWN PREMISE, OR THEY HAVE 100 DIFFERENT LICENSES THAT JUST FIT.
LIKE WHEN YOU GET ACROSS THE BRIDGE, IT'S 100 DIFFERENT LICENSES.
LIKE I SAID, ON THIS SIDE, IT'S JUST FORCED.
YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT ATTACHED TO IT.
YEAH, YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND BUY BEER, EVEN IF YOU'RE OPEN FOR AN HOUR, YOU'RE OPEN.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP US OUT LEGISLATIVELY AND PREVENT A LEGAL JAM IN THE FUTURE.
>> THE ONLY THING I DON'T SEE IN HERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE IS THAT THE LICENSE HOLDER WILL BE SUBJECT TO RECORDS CHECKS.
THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT KEEPING RECORDS OF ANYTHING.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN HERE, STEWART? KEEPING THE RECORDS OF THEIR PURCHASE?
>> I THINK THAT'S LICENSE ESTABLISHMENT, IT SAYS IN THE BEGINNING OF OUR RULE BOOK SAYS OPEN TO POLICE, MYSELF, STATE.
>> OTHER THAN I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES, WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT NEEDED TO BE IN THERE, IT GOT PUT IN THERE.
>> I JUST MAKE SURE IT'S WORDED.
>> IT'S COVERED BY ANOTHER WORDING OF SOMETHING ELSE.
>> I KNOW IT'S IN THERE. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORDED.
>> THE RULES AND REGS, IT DOES STATE THAT THEY HAVE TO KEEP
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RECORDS EMPLOYEES AND ALL THEIR INVOICES.>> INVOICES, SALES AND INVENTORY.
>> ONE THING I DON'T SEE AND MAYBE I'M MISSING IT IS STORAGE.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO ABOUT STORAGE? BECAUSE IF THEY HAVEN'T SAID THEY'RE PROVIDING, LIKE FOR THIS EVENT THEN WHEN THE EVENT'S OVER, WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR STORAGE? I KNOW THEY HAVE ANOTHER EVENT.
>> WE TALKED LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVING IT LOCKED AWAY.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE FOR ME AND FOR YOU GUYS, I THINK, AS WELL.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN INSPECTABLE LOCKUP.
>. THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO SOMETHING, I THINK FOR STORAGE.
>> COMPLETELY UP TO THE BOARD, BUT JUST LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, IT'S UNDER LOCKING KEY.
>> BECAUSE YOU GOT TO THINK CASTLE HALL, TOO, AT THE SAME TIME.
OR WHATEVER POPS UP IN THE FUTURE.
>> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE LEFT OUT.
>> JUST THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THE ONE DAY EVENT HAVE TO BE LOCKED UNDER KEY UNDER RULES AND REGS, BUT NOBODY ELSE HAS TO HAVE IT UNDER LOCKED.
>> WE'RE OPENING THAT TO THIS?
>> THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS TO FOLLOW THAT KIND OF PATH.
>> WHICH I AGREE. I THINK THE STORAGE NEEDS TO BE PUT IN THERE.
>> I CAN HAVE THE STORAGE. WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE ONE.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS THE NEW CLASS OF LICENSE FOR EVENT VENUES SO I CAN'T ADD THAT ABOUT STORAGE.
>> I THINK THAT'LL BECOME AN ISSUE.
>> THEN WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY'LL HAVE TO IDENTIFY THAT WHERE THEY'RE STORING IT AS WELL.
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET ON THAT PATH OF ASKING WHERE IS YOUR STORAGE BECAUSE PEOPLE TRACK THE TRAILERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT THEY GO THROUGH THE STATE INSTEAD OF US.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE COUNTY.
>> THAT'S FINE. I'M ON BOARD WITH IT.
I THINK THIS IS THE FUTURE, WHERE WE NEED TO GO BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE VENUES LIKE THAT. YEAH.
>> I THINK IT'S A GREAT STEP FOR CAROLINE COUNTY LEADING THAT WAY.
BECAUSE IT'S ON EVERYBODY'S MIND.
>> DO YOU SEE IT BEING A PROBLEM OF BEING PASSED THROUGH LEGISLATOR. WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT?
>> YOU DON'T SEE IT TO BEING AN ISSUE? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE HAD IT FOR THE FIRE COMPANIES, BUT THIS IS LIKE THE PRIVATE ENTITIES.
>> LIKE TRACY, I BELIEVE THAT IF THIS GOES THROUGH, I THINK YOU'LL START TO SEE OTHER COUNTIES START TO ADOPT SIMILAR REGULATIONS.
>> RIGHT NOW IF THEY HAVE A BREWERY COME IN OR SOMETHING THEY'RE UNDER THAT, THEIR LICENSE, THEY'RE USING THAT.
>> I THINK IT WILL HELP THE BUSINESSES OF CAROLINE COUNTY AS WELL.
IT'S GOING TO HELP BUILD THAT AND THE BUSINESSES THAT WE SEE THAT ARE WANTING TO COME INTO THIS, I DON'T SEE BEING A PROBLEM.
THEY HAVE GOOD ADMIRATIONS, I GUESS.
>> WELL, IT'S AN AVENUE FOR OTHER VENUES THAT MAY POP UP.
I'M OKAY WITH IT. DO YOU WANT TO DO THE OTHER ONE TOO HERE?
>> SURE. SHOULD WE DO IT SEPARATE BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE?
>> THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
>> WAS THIS JUST DISCUSSION OR ARE WE ACTUALLY MAKING A MOTION?
>> WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION- [OVERLAPPING].
>> TO TAKE IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
>> WELL, IN THE MOTION, YOU HAVE TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS ABOUT THE STORAGE.
>> TO GET THE STORAGE UP TO IT.
>> WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, AND YOU HAVE TO HELP ME HERE IF I FORGET SOMETHING.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS DRAFT, PART 2 SUBTITLE 10, LICENSE FOR SPECIAL TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS, AND VENUES ON THE CONDITION THAT WE ADD A CLAUSE REGARDING STORAGE OF THE ALCOHOL.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS DRAFT OF THE PART 2, SUBTITLE 10, LICENSE FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS AND VENUES TO INCLUDE THE ADDITION OF THE STORAGE CLAUSE.
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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.>> THE NEXT ONE IS FOR THE MULTIEVENT EVENT LICENSE HOLDERS.
WE HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF LICENSE AND RIGHT NOW, AS IT STATES, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE ALLOWED TO STORE THEIR ALCOHOL.
WE WOULD LIKE TO, BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER BUSINESS [OVERLAPPING]
>> [INAUDIBLE] SCHOOL WAS ASKING ABOUT THIS.
>> THEY DO A LOT OF EVENTS THERE, AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO STORE THEIR ALCOHOL IN THEIR FACILITY.
WE WOULD JUST TAKE OUT THE PART WHERE IT SAYS IT'S ONLY FOR VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES.
>> IT'S NOT SAYING SPECIFIC TO THE FIRE COMPANY?
>> CORRECT. WE WOULD JUST DELETE A.
>> BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF A LICENSE BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE IN THAT RULE.
THAT HAS WORKED ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY DENTON THAT HAS THE GUN BASH RIGHT NOW, IS ABOUT IT, AND THAT LIQUOR JUST SITS THERE SO IT'S IMPORTANT.
>> THEY ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP INVENTORY BEFORE, AND AFTER EACH EVENT, AND HAVE A LOCKED AREA.
>> IT'S HARD WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE TWO EVENTS OR ONE EVENT PER YEAR AND THEN YOU ONLY HAVE TO KEEP TWO YEARS OF RECORDS SO IT'S A LITTLE HARD.
>> WE'RE LOOKING ON HERE, THE SECTION APPLIES ONLY TO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES BUT TO CHANGE THAT WORDING TO ALLOW FOR TEMPORARY LICENSE HOLDER AND SPECIAL EVENTS?
>> WE WOULD JUST DELETE THIS SECTION APPLIED ONLY TO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES.
WHOEVER APPLIES FOR THIS MULTI EVENT LICENSE WILL BE LOCKED.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ALL THERE JUST LOCKED IN RECORDS.
>> YEAH. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAY IT THE CORRECT WAY.
>> THAT'S WHY I WANT YOU TO DO IT.
>> I BELIEVE THE MOTION SHOULD BE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE WORDING FOR THE STORAGE OF ALCOHOL TO ALSO INCLUDE TEMPORARY LICENSE HOLDERS, TO REMOVE THE WORDING OF FIRE COMPANIES ONLY, AND TO MAKE IT FOR TEMPORARY LICENSE HOLDER BECAUSE THAT BASICALLY WHAT THEY ARE.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE AMEND THE WORDING IN THE RULES AND REGS TO DROP THE STRICTLY VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES TO INCLUDE JUST MULTIEVENT LICENSE FOR STORAGE.
>> THOSE AMENDMENTS WILL BE PUT ONLINE WITH THE REGULAR RULES, RIGHT?
>> YES. ONCE THEY ARE APPROVED.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S AVAILABLE.
>> THE COMMISSIONERS ALSO, RIGHT?
>> BUT THAT DON'T HAVE TO GO TO A LEGISLATIVE THING, JUST THE COMMISSIONER.
>> YES. BOTH OF THESE HAVE TO GO.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE AMENDMENTS GET ONLINE SO THAT NO ONE'S CONFUSED.
>> OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE EARTH TONES CAFE IS REQUESTING AN EXTENSION OF A LICENSE APPROVAL.
[Earth Tones Cafe- Request for Extension of License Approval]
THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE OPENED DURING SUMMER FEST, AND THEY WERE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND SO THEY WANTED TO EXTEND THEIR REQUEST OF THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE TILL SEPTEMBER 8TH, IF POSSIBLE.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY SHOULD WE EDIT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE JUST MAKE IT TILL SEPTEMBER 30 FOR THEM?
>> YOU'RE ON THE SAME PATHS I WAS ON.
SHOULD WE JUST STRETCH THIS OUT TO THE END OF THE MONTH?
>> SO THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO REVISIT IT?
>> WE WERE BOTH THINKING THE SAME.
>> I'VE BEEN IN THERE WORKING FOR THEM, GETTING THE GAS HOOKED UP AND STUFF AND THEY'RE REALLY CLOSE.
SHAWN HAS PUT EXTRA LOAD ON HIM TO GET THINGS.
HE'S MAKING TABLES WITH THE WATERFALL STUFF INSIDE OF THEM AND I'M LIKE,
[00:40:01]
YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST GOT TABLES AND THEN WORKED ON THAT.>> I STOPPED DURING SUMMER FEST AS WELL.
>> GIVING THEM THE EXTENSION TO THE 30TH, WON'T STOP THEM FROM COMING IN.
>> THEY CAN STILL COME IN WHENEVER BUT THAT WAY COME THE EIGHTH, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANOTHER WEEK, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME IN AND REQUEST IT AGAIN.
>> DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS TOO?
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AN EXTENSION FOR THE LIQUOR LICENSE FOR EARTH TONES CAFE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30?
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS- [NOISE]
>> -EXTENSION FOR EARTH TONES CAFE TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2024.
OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS REGIONALLY EXXON REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF LICENSE APPROVAL.
[Ridgely Exxon- Request for Extension of License Approval]
>> THEY SENT IN A LETTER AS WELL.
THEY WERE HOPING TO EXTEND THEIR LIQUOR LICENSE APPROVAL, THEY WILL NEED ANOTHER 30 DAYS TO COMPLETE ALL THE WORK.
I GUESS IT'S THEIR HVAC THAT THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON.
AND THEY'RE WORKING ON HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL FOR GAS PUMPS.
>> I THINK WHAT SHE USED TO SAY, I'VE BEEN BY THERE A LOT AND THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
>> THE FRONT CANOPY THAT OVER THE WHOLE FRONT DOOR, THEY'VE TAKEN OUT OF PARK AND REBUILDING THAT.
I'M PRETTY SURE I HAD TOLD THEM LAST BUT THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD ASKED US TO GO FOR 60 DAYS.
>> WE DID HAVE 60 FOR- [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHEN YOU'RE WAITING ON DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND DIFFERENT CONTRACT, I GET IT.
>> THAT BUILDING NEEDED A LOT OF WORK.
>> IT NEEDED A LOT OF WORK. PROBABLY WAY MORE THAN THEY EVER THOUGHT.
>> IT HAD BEEN RUN DOWN SO BAD.
>> WHY DON'T WE JUST GIVE THEM TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER LIKE WE DID THE OTHER?
>> THEY'RE 30 DAYS. WHEN WAS THEIR 30 DAYS, IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS?
>> ARE THEY UP AT THE END OF THIS MONTH?
>> GOING TO SEPTEMBER 30 WILL GIVE THEM THEIR 30 DAYS OR WHATEVER.
>> THAT'S FINE. I'M FINE WITH IT.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REGIONALLY EXXON TO EXTEND THEIR FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS TO SEPTEMBER 30.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
WE APPROVE THIS EXTENSION FOR REGIONALLY EXXON'S LICENSE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH.
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, INSPECTOR'S REPORT.
[Inspector's Report]
>> THIS MONTH IT'S BEEN REALLY HUSTLING TO TRY TO WRAP THINGS UP FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.
BEEN ON THE PHONE A LOT WITH A LOT OF THE TEMPORARY LICENSES.
BRIDGELY, IN FACT, FOR ONE, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT EVENTS COMING UP.
JUST TRYING TO GET THEM TO GET IN HERE AND TRY TO GET ONTO THE LICENSE, GET THEIR STUFF APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
I'VE BEEN TALKING TO BARBIE ABOUT THAT.
I TALKED TO GOLDSBORO ABOUT AN EVENT THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP THAT I'VE NOT SEEN THEM IN HERE FOR YET.
THEY DO HAVE TILL NEXT MONTH, OBVIOUSLY.
>> ARE THEY COVERED UNDER THEIR MULTIEVENT LICENSE?
>> THEY STILL HAVE TO NOTIFY US.
>> NO. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO. THEY JUST HAVE TO NOTIFY.
I JUST CALLED THEM TO NOTIFY BECAUSE I REMEMBER THIS EVENT LAST YEAR.
IT WAS CONFUSING BECAUSE IT WASN'T THE SAME PEOPLE RUNNING IT.
I CALLED RON DIXON, JUST SAID, HEY, JUST PUT THIS BUG IN HERE.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT A VIOLATION.
BUT HEY, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM THE HEADS UP.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE NONSTOP THIS MONTH WITH THAT AND KEEPING BETH UP TO DATE WITH THAT.
AS I CALL THESE PEOPLE, SHE CAN LET ME KNOW IF THEY'RE COMING IN OR NOT.
WENT TO SUMMER FEST, DID INSPECTIONS THROUGHOUT DENTON, WORKED WITH AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS UNDERGOING SOME CHANGES, I THINK THINGS ARE COMING BACK AROUND.
THIS IS ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS HAD A GOOD RECORD FOREVER AND THE BOARD HAS GIVEN ME THAT PERMISSION TO ACT ACCORDINGLY AND USE MY DISCRETION.
HOWEVER, STILL KEEPING WITHIN THE SAME TREND OF TREATING EVERYONE THE SAME.
THAT WOULD JUST BE A VERBAL WARNING AS WELL.
AS WELL AS, LIKE I SAID, I WENT OUT DURING THE SUMMER FEST, I TALKED TO RED LIGHT LIQUORS, PURPLE PEAK BOYS ABOUT THEIR PLANS AND HOW DELIVERY IS GOING.
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FROM WHAT THEY'VE SAID, IT'S WORKING, THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IT WORK A LITTLE BETTER AND THEY'RE RUNNING INTO A LOT OF THIS TECHNOLOGY ISSUES, TRYING TO PICK THE PERFECT ONE, THINGS LIKE THAT.I THINK ONCE THEIR TIME PERIOD IS UP, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME CHANGES FROM THEM ON THIS DELIVERY ON HOW THEY WANT TO RUN IT.
I TOLD THEM, I SAID COME IN AND EXPRESS THAT TO YOU GUYS, BUT IT ALL SOUNDED POSITIVE.
SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN REGIONALLY, STARTING TO LOOK UP, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF PLANS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
I WENT TO ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT, ONE OF OUR NEW ESTABLISHMENTS.
I WENT AND DID AN INSPECTION BEFORE THEY OPENED, TOLD THEM WHAT WE EXPECTED OF THEM AS WE DID WHEN THEY CAME IN, AND THEN ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, ONCE THEY OPENED, I CAME AND DID ANOTHER INSPECTION.
I TOLD THEM, I SAID, HEY, THIS IS STRICTLY EDUCATIONAL AS WELL.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH. THEY HAD SOME ISSUES.
I GAVE THEM ONE MONTH TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, AND THEN THAT WILL BE WHERE WE DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO BRING THEM IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T FEEL IT'S FAIR TO OUR BRAND NEW ESTABLISHMENT TO BRING THEM IN UNLESS IT'S VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
CONTINUING WITH THESE INSPECTIONS, DONE MUCH INSPECTIONS, HELPING OTHER COUNTIES WITH DIFFERENT THINGS AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED.
BUT IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH AND, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE COMING INTO [INAUDIBLE].
REGIONALLY IS GOING TO BE DOING THAT.
THEY'VE ASKED FOR SOME HELP ON, THEY WANT TO DO PICTURES OF BEER INSTEAD OF BOTTLES OF BEER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT.
BUT BARBIE HASN'T COME IN YET, RIGHT?
>> SHE SENT ME AN EMAIL WITH ALL THEIR EVENTS THROUGH NOVEMBER?
>> GOT YOU. THEN OBVIOUSLY I DID AN INSPECTION ON U5 TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE FOR TODAY. BEEN BUSY.
>> THE PAST EVENTS FOR THE MULTIEVENT HOLDERS.
[Board Administrator's Report]
GREENSBORO HAD THEIR RODEO, THE 26TH AND 27TH.GOLDSBORO HAD A SOCIAL DINNER, AUGUST 8TH, AND THE AMERICAN LEGION HAD THEIR CAR CRUISE IN AUGUST 21TH.
>> ALSO, THE ANNUAL LICENSE AND REVENUE REPORT FOR 2023.
IT JUST BREAKS DOWN HOW MANY CLASSES OF EACH LICENSE WE HAD.
FOR BEER, CLASS A, WE HAD THREE, BEER CLASS B, ONE, BEER CLASS D, TWO.
WE HAD FIVE BEER LICENSE HERE AND WINE.
WE HAVE FIVE CLASS A AND ONE CLASS D FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LIGHT WINE OR WINERIES.
BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR, WE HAVE 18 CLASS AS, FIVE CLASS B, AND THREE CLASS C, AND TWO D. WE HAVE ONE CARRIERS LICENSE IN ACCOUNTING.
WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 40 LICENSES FOR 2023, AND THE TOTAL REVENUE WAS $47,450 FROM THOSE LICENSE FEES.
YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ELSE FROM CASTLE HALL?
>> THEY WITHDREW. THEY WITHDREW BUT THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING OTHER THINGS.
ARE THEY MAYBE WAITING FOR THIS?
>> I THINK THEY'RE WAITING FOR THAT.
BECAUSE HE WAS INTERESTED IN STARTING THAT NEW CLASS OF LICENSE.
BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM HIM.
THEN JUST A REMINDER OF THE OCTOBER DATE CHANGE.
IT WAS OCTOBER 23RD, AND NOW THE NEW MEETING DATE IS OCTOBER 16TH.
>> OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
>> YOU'LL SEND A REMINDER, RIGHT? [LAUGHTER]
>> I WILL SEND A REMINDER, YES.
>> SOMETIMES, OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND.
>> THE NEXT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 25.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY MEETING.
>> GREENSBORO CAR SHOWS US WE- [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LONGER- [LAUGHTER]
>> -THAN NORMAL. THE SEPTEMBER 25.
>> WE HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] STATE.
>> LET'S PUT HIM ON THE SPOT FOR A SECOND, JUST FOR ONE THING.
[00:50:05]
TIPS STILL HAVING TROUBLES.YEAH. TERRY OBER WHO, LIKE I SAID, SEEMS TO BE THE MAIN INSTRUCTOR FOR THE AREA, AND HE HAS SWITCHED TO SERVE SAFE.
TIPS IS TRYING TO GO BACK TO THE OLD WAY THAT THEY WERE DOING THINGS, AND IT'S JUST NOT WORKING.
SERVE SAFE IS OFFERING SO MANY ESSENTIALS BECAUSE ALL THE TIPS WHO WENT TO GO WORK FOR THEM.
THEY'RE OFFERING SEVERAL DISCOUNTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO BECAUSE IT'S MORE PARTS.
THE CLASS IS A LOT BETTER TO TAKE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A STRUCTURE, YOU CAN TEACH IT AS YOU FEEL.
BUT TO BECOME AN INSTRUCTOR IS A LOT MORE DIFFICULT.
I HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE TO TAKE A TEST AND SCHEDULE THAT WITH SOMEBODY, I HAVE TO TAKE A CLASS, THEN I HAVE TO FILE FOR A PERMIT, AND THEN I HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER TEST.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK. THAT'S WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT I'M STILL LOOKING INTO THINGS, I JUST GOT TO FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> SO MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE CAROLINE COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONERS FOR WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 28, 2024.
>> ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED. MEETING ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.