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A MEXICAN THING. [LAUGHTER][El Chupakabra Mexican Restaurant- Extension Request]
>> LUPE SENT ME AN EMAIL SAYING THAT THEY NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO OPEN.
THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME THINGS.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THEM A 30-DAY EXTENSION TO BE ABLE TO GET OPEN.
>> I SECOND IT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE GIVE THEM A 30-DAY EXTENSION TO GET THEIR CONSTRUCTION DONE AND GET OPEN.
>> AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED.
MOVING RIGHT ALONG, OUR TEMPORARY APPLICATIONS, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
[Chamber of Commerce- New Year's Eve Party]
YOU KNOW THE DRILL. [LAUGHTER] THESE THINGS MOVE AROUND ON ME.THERE IT IS. DO YOU HEREBY SOLEMNLY DECLARE AND AFFIRM UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY THAT THE STATEMENT YOU MAKE AND THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> TRACEY SNYDER, 8907 OSTERMAN COURT, DENTON, MARYLAND.
>> THE CHAMBER IS PLANNING THEIR NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY AGAIN AT THE COW BARN, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO TRACEY AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE THE EXACT SAME THING INSIDE ONLY, 08:00 PM TO 1:00 AM.
WE WILL HAVE ANNIE ROBAR AS OUR BARTENDER, LIKE WE HAD LAST YEAR.
I'M ALSO TIPS-CERTIFIED THIS YEAR, SO I'LL BE ON PREMISE THE ENTIRE TIME.
WHILE THE DANCE FLOOR AND THE TABLES WILL COME DOWN TO MIDNIGHT, WE HAVE A DJ.
TICKETS ARE ON SALE NOW, BUT WE HAVEN'T PUSHED IT TOO HARD BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU YET.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I SAW YOU BEFORE WE PROMOTED IT.
WE WANTED TO DO BEER AND WINE, AND THEN WE DID ALCOHOL LAST YEAR.
WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, SO WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
WE ONLY HAD ONE PERSON THAT WAS REALLY LITTLE OVER THE EDGE, BUT HE WASN'T DRIVING.
HE WAS TAKEN OUT AND DRIVEN HOME, AND EVERYTHING WAS GOOD. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HIS NAME.
SOME PEOPLE KNOW HIM, SO FOR THE RECORD, I DON'T KNOW, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE DID GREAT.
IT WAS A LOT OF FUN, AND SO WE WANT TO DO IT AGAIN AT THE COW BARN.
WE HAVE HEAVY APPETIZERS, SO THERE'LL BE FOOD AND DESSERT SO THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT, BUT NOTHING LIKE DINNER BECAUSE IT'S EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
WE FIGURED THEY ALREADY GO OUT TO EAT.
WE'LL USE THE TAXI SERVICE AGAIN, KEEP THEM ON SPEED DOWN IF WE NEED TO.
EVERYBODY WAS REALLY RESPONSIBLE THAT ATTENDED, SO OUR GOAL IS TO INVITE ALL OF THEM BACK, [LAUGHTER] BUT THAT'S THE PLAN.
>> AFTER YOU CARD, ARE YOU WRIST-BANDING?
>> YEAH. WE HAVE WRISTBANDS, IT SAY 21 AND OVER.
WE HAD A FEW THAT WERE UNDER 21, SO BETTER TO HAVE THEM FOR THE OVER 21 THAN THE UNDER.
>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.
>> NO. I WILL SAY THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WERE UNDER 21 WERE [INAUDIBLE] AND MARTY'S GRANDDAUGHTER AND A COUPLE OF FRIENDS.
WE HAD A REAL HOT GUY ON THEM ANYWAY, SO IT WAS ONLY A FEW.
I WOULD SAY THREE, MAYBE FOUR TOTAL, SO IT WAS SO VERY EASY TO NOT SERVE THEM AND KEEP AN EYE ON THEM.
>> I DID NOT GO TO THAT LAST YEAR, BUT I'VE GONE TO PLENTY OF THE EVENTS AT COW BARN VERY RECENTLY, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CHAMBER HERE LATELY AS WELL, SO NO PROBLEMS WITH EITHER.
>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY FOR CAROLINE COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO BE HELD AT COW BARN, ACTUALLY, FROM DECEMBER 31ST OF 2024 INTO THE MORNING HOURS OF JANUARY 1ST OF 2025 FROM 8:00 PM T 1:00 AM FOR BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THIS TEMPORARY LICENSE APPLICATION FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY FOR DECEMBER 31ST.
>> AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED.
>> MAYBE I'LL SEE YOU THERE. [LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE IT, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY. I WILL SEE YOU.
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>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS. HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> NEXT ONE IS THE COMPASS HOSPICE FESTIVAL OF TREES.
[Compass Hospice- Festival of Trees]
THIS IS AN EVENT THAT THEY HAVE EACH YEAR.>> I DID REMIND THEM ABOUT THE MEETING TODAY AND I DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING FROM THEM.
>> CRYSTAL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE EVERY YEAR.
>> I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE SAME.
>> YOU HAVE YOUR SITE PLAN AND EVERYTHING IN THE APPLICATION.
>> EVERYTHING IS THE SAME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> EVERYTHING IS THE SAME AS THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
>> IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A NEW EVENT OR ANYTHING.
>> CORRECT. SAME LOCATION, SAME PLAN.
>> THERE HADN'T BEEN ANY PROBLEMS OR ANYTHING?
>> IT'S PRETTY. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
IT'S NOT A HUGE DRINKING EVENT.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY FOR HOSPICE.
>> IF YOU WANT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION ON THAT.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE HOSPICE FESTIVAL OF TREES THAT WILL BE HELD AT TOWERS' ON DECEMBER 6TH OF 2024 FROM 6:00 PM TO 9:00 PM.
IT'S A BEER, WINE, AND THERE'S AN ADMISSION CHARGE.
>> ACTUALLY, WE NEVER ASKED GLENN IF HE HAD ANY ISSUES.
I FORGOT HE WAS SITTING HERE WITH US.
>> GLENN, BEFORE I SECOND THAT, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT?
>> NO, I AGREE, BUT I VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT.
>> I SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY SERVICE PERMIT.
[Third Party Deliver Service Permit Discussion]
THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.>> I ADDED THE REGULATION IN THE PACKET.
I DID REACH OUT TO HOWARD COUNTY BECAUSE I HEARD THAT THEY WERE ONE OF THE JURISDICTIONS, ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT WERE CLOSE TO APPROVING A THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY, AND THEY ARE NOT, SO NO JURISDICTIONS.
HAVE YOU EVEN ATTEMPTED TO DO A THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY PERMIT? BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THE THE REGULATION OUT THERE TO TO READ AND FOR MORE DISCUSSION.
>> IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'RE JUST NOT READY TO DO, NOT WANTING TO DO AT THE TIME, YOU ALWAYS CAN COME BACK AND DECIDE TO ALLOW THAT.
THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE STATE LAW THAT WE GIVE THE AUTHORITY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THIS DOES NOT AFFECT ANYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED WITH, LIKE RED LIGHT LIQUORS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR DELIVERIES.
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THEIR OWN DELIVERIES.
THEY'RE NOT DOING IT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> CORRECT. THEY'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 1 UNDER 4507B.
IT SAYS THAT RETAIL DELIVERY TO A PURCHASER OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IS PROHIBITED UNLESS, TOP OF PAGE 2, A RETAIL LICENSE HOLDER GETS A LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION FROM THE LOCAL BOARD TO MAKE DELIVERIES, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR RED LIGHT LIQUORS.
YOU'VE GIVEN THEM THAT LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION TO MAKE DELIVERIES FROM ITEMS THAT ARE PURCHASED FROM THEIR STORE.
THEN NUMBER 2 SAYS, RETAIL DELIVERY IS PROHIBITED.
I'M SORRY, MY BRAIN'S NOT WITH IT THIS MORNING.
RETAIL DELIVERY TO A PURCHASER OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IS PROHIBITED UNLESS, NUMBER 2, THE DELIVERY IS MADE FROM THE LICENSE PREMISE BY, AND THIS IS THE NEW LANGUAGE, AN EMPLOYEE OF THE RETAIL LICENSE HOLDER, WHICH AGAIN IS WHAT RED LIGHT LIQUORS IS DOING.
THEN NUMBER 3 IS A THIRD-PARTY CONTRACTOR THAT, NUMBER 1, HOLDS A LOCAL DELIVERY SERVICE PERMIT ISSUED UNDER THIS TITLE AND HAS CONTRACTED WITH THE RETAIL LICENSE HOLDER TO MAKE THE DELIVERIES.
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE THAT PERMIT LOCALLY TO ALLOW A THIRD-PARTY DELIVERY TO CONTRACT WITH ONE OF OUR LOCAL RETAIL LICENSE HOLDERS TO DO THAT DELIVERY.
THEN WHEN YOU GET DOWN INTO 41107, THIS SECTION APPLIES ONLY IN A JURISDICTION WHERE THE LOCAL BOARD HAS ADOPTED REGULATIONS TO AUTHORIZE THE DELIVERY OF ALCOHOL TO A THIRD PARTY.
BEFORE YOU CAN AUTHORIZE THAT AND GRANT THEM A PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO ADOPT THIS IN YOUR REGULATIONS TO ALLOW IT.
IT TELLS YOU THERE, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY UNDER B TO ISSUE THE PERMIT.
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C STATES THAT THE DELIVERY IS AUTHORIZED FROM THE RETAIL LICENSE HOLDER TO DELIVER THE ALCOHOL IN THE JURISDICTION WHERE THE HOLDER IS LOCATED, SO THEY CAN'T GO OUTSIDE OF CAROLINE COUNTY.IT STATES THAT THE BOARD CAN SET REGULATIONS FOR THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PERMIT, ANY ADDITIONAL REGS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO MAKE.
YOU CAN CHARGE A FEE FOR THE PERMIT.
THE ANNUAL FEE FOR THE DELIVERY PERMIT IS $1,000.
THEN IT ALSO GOES FURTHER INTO THE SPECIFIC PERMIT HOLDER REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PERSON HAS TO BE 21 THAT'S DELIVERING, AND YOU CAN READ THROUGH THOSE ON PAGE 3, ALL THE CRITERIA THAT HAS TO BE MET.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE A TIPS CERTIFICATION.
THEN THEY ALSO ESTABLISHED, UNDER K, PENALTIES.
IF THE ARE FOUND IN VIOLATION, A FIRST OFFENSE IS $1,000, A SECOND IS 3,000 AND A SUSPENSION OF THE PERMIT FOR 30 DAYS.
THIRD VIOLATION IS $6,000 FINE AND A SUSPENSION FOR 60 DAYS, AND THEN ANY SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION AFTER THAT IS REVOCATION OF THE PERMIT.
>> I LIKE ALL THAT. I LIKE EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN THERE.
[NOISE] I JUST THINK THAT RED LIGHT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S ASKED, THEY'RE HANDLING IT THEMSELVES.
THERE'S BEEN NO INTEREST BY ANY OF THE OTHER RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
[OVERLAPPING] I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AT THIS TIME.
>> WE'VE HAD NO THIRD-PARTY AGENCIES COME TO US TO ASK TO DO THIS.
>> THE THIRD PARTY, THEY'RE REFERRING TO UBER EATS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> DRIZLY. I KNOW RED LIGHT WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DRIZLY.
I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO BE A DELIVERY FOR DRIZLY OR WHATEVER.
BUT WHERE DOES FEDEX AND UPS AND STUFF FALL INTO THAT? THAT'S THE QUESTION.
>> IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 1, UNDER 4507A AT THE BOTTOM, IT SAYS THIS SECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO, NUMBER 1, THE DELIVERY OF WINE FROM A DIRECT WINE SHIPPER TO THE CONSUMER.
THAT'S ALREADY PERMITTED, AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
>> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHO GETS THE $1,000? DO WE TAKE THAT?
>> THE COUNTY GETS IT JUST LIKE IT'S A FINE?
>> BUT DID WE CHARGE THAT MUCH MONEY FOR ANY OF THE OTHER PERMITS THAT WE ISSUE?
>> WE DON'T ISSUE ANY PERMITS.
EVERYTHING AT THIS TIME IS A LICENSE.
I BELIEVE THERE'S THE GROWLER PERMIT FOR THE GROWLERS.
IT'S AN ACTUAL PERMIT, AND THAT'S $500.
BUT THAT JUST GIVES ABILITY OF A CURRENT LICENSE HOLDER TO PROVIDE REFILLABLE CONTAINERS FOR THEIR PRODUCTS, SO A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
>> THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY AND THE PENALTIES ARE PRETTY SEVERE.
>> PENALTIES ARE EXTREMELY SEVERE, THAT'S WHY I LIKE THEM. [LAUGHTER]
>> ACCORDING TO THAT, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU ORDER ONLINE, THE WINE OR WHATEVER, WINE IS THE ONLY THING YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ORDER ONLINE ACCORDING TO THAT.
>> IT'S COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUFACTURER, NOT FROM A RETAIL STORE.
THIS ONE'S FURTHER DOWN THE CHAIN.
YOU WENT FROM THE MANUFACTURER TO THE WHOLESALER OR TO THE DISTRIBUTOR DOWN TO THE RETAILER AND THEN TO THE CONSUMER WHERE THE WINE PROVISION IS A DIRECT SHIPMENT FROM THE MANUFACTURER TO THE CONSUMER.
IT SKIPS THAT DISTRIBUTION AND RETAIL PART.
>> IT'S JUST WINE THAT CAN BE DELIVERED BY THEM.
>> YES. UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER PROVISION IN HERE THAT ALLOWS FOR BEER OR LIQUID.
>> THE WAY THAT READS RIGHT THERE, THAT PART IT SAYS WINE, SPECIFICALLY.
I'VE DONE LIKE I SAID, RESEARCH THAT YOU CAN GET BEER.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S RIGHT, IT'S COMING FROM OUT OF STATE, TYPICALLY, BUT JUST LIKE YOU SAID [OVERLAPPING].
>> NOW, WHETHER IT'S BEING DONE LEGALLY OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER. I'VE SHIPPED IT BEFORE.
I'VE HAD BOTTLES OF LIQUOR MYSELF SHIPPED TO SOMEBODY AS A GIFT.
IT ACTUALLY, IT WASN'T FROM THE ACTUAL MAKER, IT WAS FROM A STORE THAT ACTUALLY SHIPPED IT.
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>> NOW, WHETHER THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT?
>> NOW, WHETHER THEY DID THAT LEGALLY, I DON'T KNOW.
>> I KNOW YEARS AGO BARB AND I WERE UP IN UPPER NEW YORK, AND SHE FOUND WINE THAT SHE LIKED, BUT THEY TOLD HER SAID, UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS TIME WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHIP TO MARYLAND.
THAT WAS QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO.
BASICALLY, WE JUST WENT TO BARGAIN BEVERAGE AND SAID, HEY, CAN YOU PLEASE GET THIS WINE.
WE GUARANTEE WE'LL BUY ENOUGH TO MAKE IT WORTH YOUR WHILE, AND SHE DID. [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU GO ON A CRUISE SHIP, THEY TALK ABOUT DUTY-FREE BECAUSE IT'S TAX-FREE.
YOU CAN BUY IT ON A CRUISE SHIP AND HAVE IT SHIPPED TO YOUR HOUSE, SO IT'S AT YOUR HOUSE WHEN WHEN YOU GET HOME.
>> A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF RULES.
IT'S JUST LIKE IF YOU'RE OUT OF COUNTRY THAT DUTY-FREE AREA IN THE AIRPORT, YOU CAN GET IT AND YOU CAN'T CARRY IT WITH YOU, BUT THEY'LL IT ON THE PLANE AND IT'LL BE THERE FOR YOU WHEN YOU GET THERE.
BUT THIS IS JUST APPLYING TO RETAIL STORES BEING ABLE TO HAVE UBER OR DRIZLY OR WHATEVER IT IS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIRD PARTY DELIVERIES FROM A LOCAL RETAILER TO A LOCAL HOME.
>> IF WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WOULD WANT TO DO THAT, THE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO CREATE THEIR REGULATIONS AND THEIR PERMIT, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO GRANT THOSE PERMITS.
>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.
>> BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.
>> I THINK YOU CAN CHOOSE TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON NOW AND WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S A NEED TO ALLOW THIS OR THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S INTERESTED, THEN YOU CAN CERTAINLY CIRCLE BACK AND ALSO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE STATE BECAUSE THIS IS NEW AND SEE ARE THERE PROBLEMS, ARE THERE NOT PROBLEMS?
>> WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE FIRST? [LAUGHTER]
>> I KNOW BEING ON OUR MALA CALLS, NOBODY IS WANTING TO TOUCH THIS RIGHT NOW.
EVERYBODY'S KIND OF, MOST OF THE COUNTIES HAVE DONE EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.
>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID, [INAUDIBLE] THAT.
DOES THIS REALLY NOT APPLY TO US? ISN'T RED LIGHT ACT BY THESE REGULATIONS OR BECAUSE THEY DELIVER THEMSELVES AND DON'T USE THIRD PARTY, WE LEGITIMATELY DON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> I DO. BASICALLY, WE HAVE ISSUED RED LIGHT THE ABILITY TO DO THIS, BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING IT THEMSELVES.
THIS DOES NOT AFFECT ANYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE FOR THEM OR ANY OTHER IF BARGAIN BEVERAGE WOULD COME OR STATE LINE WOULD COME AND ASK TO DO THE SAME THINGS, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THEM.
THIS IS ONLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FOR THIRD PARTIES.
IF SOMEBODY FROM UBER EATS SENT IN SOME LAWYER AND SAID, UBER EATS WANTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS IN THIS COUNTY, THEN THIS PERTAINS TO THEM, NOT TO THE LOCAL ESTABLISHMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY DEALT WITH.
>> BUT LOOK AT PAGE 22, AN EMPLOYEE OF THE RETAIL LICENSE HOLDER.
I THINK IF IT DIDN'T SAY AN EMPLOYEE OF, WE GOT NO ISSUE.
I DON'T WANT TO SIR UP, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT HOW AN AUDITOR MIGHT LOOK AT THIS AND SAY THEY SHOULD HAVE A POLICY. STEWARD.
>> I'M JUST CHECKING THE SECTION.
BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS IMPLEMENT ONE OF THOSE SUBSECTIONS, WHICH IS IF IT'S AN EMPLOYEE OF THE LICENSEE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BLESSED FOR RED LIGHT.
WE HAVE NOT BLESSED THE OTHER SUBSECTION, WHICH IS A THIRD PARTY.
THE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT THAT'S FINE WITH US, WE WOULD ALSO NOT ONLY HAVE TO GIVE THEM A PERMIT, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE EVIDENCE OF A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP,
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LIKE IF IT SAYS A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE LICENSEE AND THE THIRD PARTY DELIVERY SERVICE, WHICH MAKES YOU A POLICEMAN REALLY A LITTLE BIT.YOU HAVE TO CHECK THEIR DOCUMENTATION, MAKE SURE THAT CONTRACT IS VALID.
IS IT ENFORCEABLE? IS IT SOMETHING THAT BINDS THE THIRD PARTY IN SOME WAY FOR CONTRACTUAL LIABILITY IF THEY SCREW UP A DELIVERY? IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY. IT'LL BE A LITTLE MORE WORK FOR STAFF AND FOR YOU IF YOU DO IMPLEMENT THAT SUBSECTION, BECAUSE THERE'S TWO PARTS TO IT.
>> NO, I AGREE WITH THE TWO COMMISSIONERS.
>> I THINK THE FEELING ACROSS THE STATE IS THERE'S SOME CONCERN, AND MOST JURISDICTIONS DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ALLOWING THE RETAIL LICENSE HOLDER THEMSELVES OR THEIR EMPLOYEE TO MAKE THOSE DELIVERIES BECAUSE THE BOARD FEELS THEY HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THAT VERSUS THIS THIRD PARTY ENTITY THAT'S NOW COMING IN THAT THEY FEEL THEY'LL HAVE LESS CONTROL OVER AND CAN BE MORE PROBLEMATIC.
I THINK THAT'S WHY THERE'S HESITATION TO ALLOW IT.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S WAITING TO SEE WHO GOES FIRST. [LAUGHTER] ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID ON THE MALA CALL WAS THAT IT WOULD INCREASE ENFORCEMENT, LIKE THEY WOULD HAVE TO THROW A LOT OF MONEY AT ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SUCH AN UNFORTUNATE NIGHTMARE, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE BIGGER AREAS.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT A LOT MORE MONEY AND A LOT MORE TIME.
THESE COUNTIES THAT HAVE PART TIME INSPECTORS OR WHATEVER WOULD HAVE TO PUT MORE HOURS INTO IT AND A LOT MORE MONEY. FUNDING WOULD BE INVOLVED.
>> THE UBER EATS AND THE DOORDASH, I GUESS THERE'S SOME OF IT AROUND HERE, NOT A LOT.
BUT WHEN YOU GO TO THE HIGHER POPULATED AREAS, IT'S HUGE.
>> YOU GO TO ANNAPOLIS IN BALTIMORE CITY, IT'S GOING TO BE HUGE.
I FORESEE THEM AT SOME POINT DOING THIS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY TAKING TIME TO REALLY DIG INTO WHAT THEY WANT TO MAKE THEIR LOCAL RULES AND REGULATIONS BE TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THIS AND MAKE SURE IT'S AIRTIGHT.
>> YOU HAVE A LOT OF THE KIDS THAT ARE ORDERING THE UBER AND DOORDASH AND STUFF.
>> UBER EATS AND STUFF CANAL AND THEN THEY'RE STILL DOING IT.
THEY'RE ADVERTISING FOR THESE BUSINESSES.
THEY CAN'T DELIVER RIGHT NOW PER SE, BUT THEY'RE ADVERTISING FOR THE BUSINESSES IF YOU GO INTO THEIR WEBSITES AND APPS.
>> I TRULY BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS PROBABLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T NEED TO ADDRESS AT THIS POINT.
>> THIS CAME OUT OF LAST YEAR'S SESSION.
IT'S BEEN TOSSED AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW AND THEY FINALLY HAVE ADOPTED IT TO ALLOW IT, BUT THEY'VE GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO THE LOCAL JURISDICTION TO MAKE THAT DECISION IF YOU WANT TO DO IT IN YOUR JURISDICTION AND HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT.
>> WELL, WE CAN GO BACK AND ADOPT IT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN GO BACK AND DO YOUR REGS WHENEVER YOU FEEL YOU WANT TO ALLOW IT.
>> AS IT ARISES OR WHATEVER, THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THEM.
>> IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY.
>> I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO OPEN THAT DOOR UP.
I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF AND KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY COMING, BUT AT THIS TIME, JUST.
>> OKAY. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY A MOTION.
THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSION. MOVING ON TO THE INSPECTOR'S REPORT.
[Inspector's Report]
>> I'VE BEEN AROUND TO GROUP PLACES MAINLY SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S [INAUDIBLE] EVENT.
I WENT TO OBVIOUSLY CASA TRIVIA. I TALKED TO THE VFW.
THEY HAD A FEW EVENTS THIS MONTH THAT INVOLVED USING THEIR FIREPIT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME CONSTRUCTION IN THERE AS FAR AS CHANGING OUT THE BAR.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE THE BAR WOULD BE PLACED AND WE DISCUSSED ON SIMPLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE ROOF, THAT DOESN'T NEED TO COME THROUGH THE LIQUOR BOARD, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE UP TABLES, AREAS, THINGS LIKE THAT, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE LIQUOR BOARD.
I FOLLOWED UP ON SOME OTHER VIOLATIONS, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THOSE VERBAL WARNINGS THAT I GAVE OUT THAT PEOPLE DID CHANGE UP AND THEY DID FIX THEIR ISSUES.
I WENT BY [INAUDIBLE] IN FEDERALSBURG.
I HADN'T NOTICED ANY CHANGES AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREAS.
THE LADDERS WERE STILL IN THE SAME PLACE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
MAYBE THEY'RE JUST DOING ELECTRICAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR NOW.
WENT AND SPENT A FEW NIGHTS WITH RED LIGHT JUST TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO AND THE FUTURE OF ALL THEIR PLANS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
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I'LL BE BRINGING A PROBABLY A VIOLATION TO YOU HERE IN THE RELATIVELY FUTURE.THEN I ALSO WROTE A WARNING LETTER.
THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE DOCUMENTED AND PROOF READ.
I STILL NEED TO PROOF READ THAT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I INVESTIGATED UP ON MARKETPLACE, A PERSON OUT OF THE NORTH PART OF THE COUNTY DID ADVERTISE THAT THEY WERE SELLING URBAN OFF FACEBOOK MARKETPLACE.
IT SEEMED VERY, VERY CONVENIENT.
I DID FOLLOW UP ON THAT INVESTIGATION AND MADE SOME PHONE CALLS, AND IT WAS OFF MARKETPLACE BY THE END OF THE CONVERSATION.
ALSO, I HAVE A THING THAT I WANT TO BRING RUN BY YOU GUYS.
YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN ME THE POWER IN THE PAST TO USE MY DISCRETION IF I WANT TO BRING THINGS TO YOU OR NOT.
I HAVE A SITUATION, A VIOLATION OF BASICALLY REFILLING THE ALCOHOL.
THEY WEREN'T REFILLING, BUT THEY WERE MAKING MIXED DRINKS IN A BOTTLE OF ALCOHOL BY POURING OTHER CONTENT, CINNAMON, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND MIXING THE DRINKS.
THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEWER BUSINESS, SO I TEND TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE LEEWAY, BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER MORE OF A MAJOR VIOLATION, BUT I ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THEY'RE NEWER.
I WAS WONDERING, WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE FOR ME TO BRING THEM IN FOR A HEARING OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO FOLLOW MY DISCRETION? BECAUSE I TRY TO STAY CONSISTENT ON WHAT I'M DOING, BUT I DO TAKE THEM TO ACCOUNT, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE NEWER.
>> IT'S A NEWER BUSINESS AND USUALLY HIS PROTOCOL IS TO GO OUT FOR AN INITIAL INSPECTION, MAKE SURE THEY COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND REGS, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN THEY COME INTO YOU ON THEIR APPLICATION THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED THEM AND THEY'VE READ THEM.
BUT USUALLY, THE FIRST VISIT TENDS TO BE A WARNING IF THEY'RE MINOR VIOLATIONS, AND YOU HAVE DETERMINED IN THE PAST WHAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED MINOR VIOLATIONS AND MAJOR VIOLATIONS AND HAVE TOLD THE INSPECTOR THAT IF IT'S A MINOR VIOLATION, USE YOUR DISCRETION AND YOU CAN GIVE A WARNING, BUT NOT THE SAME FOR MAJOR VIOLATIONS.
THIS FALLS IN THE MAJOR VIOLATIONS BECAUSE IT IS A REFILLING OF A CONTAINER WITH OTHER THAN WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE USED FOR.
BASICALLY, MAKING A MIXER AND PUTTING IT IN THE BOTTLE WITH OTHER CONTENTS.
WE DID FOLLOW UP WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE FACILITY PERMIT AND THEY SAID, YEAH, THAT'S A BIG NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
BECAUSE YOU'RE LABELING SOMETHING.
IF SOMEBODY WERE TO TAKE THAT PRODUCT OFF THE SHELF, THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CONSUMING BECAUSE IT'S MISREPRESENTATION BECAUSE THE LABELING ON THE BOTTLE SAYS, THIS IS WHAT'S IN IT WHEN THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN IT, AND THEY CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE REGULATIONS.
>> HOW WAS IT RECEIVED WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT OUT TO THEM?
>> I'VE NOT BROUGHT IT UP. IT'S RELATIVELY RECENT.
TYPICALLY, IF THEY HAVE A MIXED DRINK OR WHAT THEY CAN SET UP LIKE A DAY AHEAD OF TIME, THEY'RE ALLOWED ABOUT A DAY OF HAVING A MIX.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY PUT IT IN LIQUOR BOTTLES, AND THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES A REAL BIG ISSUE.
IF IT'S A MIX AND IT'S CONTAINED MORE THAN A DAY AND STORED, IT HAS TO BE LABELED.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STATE RULES WITH THAT.
>> THIS GOES AGAINST OUR POLICY.
I HAD BEEN TO THE BUSINESS EXACTLY A MONTH EARLIER AND HAD REVIEWED THE RULES WITH THEM.
BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ANY ILL INTENT IN THIS BUT LIKE I SAID, IT IS A VIOLATION.
>> AHEAD OF TIME IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT DAY, THEY CAN MAKE UP A MIXED COCKTAIL IN A CONTAINER, AS LONG AS IT'S PROPERLY LABELED.
THEY CAN'T LEAVE IT THERE CONTINUOUSLY, BUT THEY CAN PREPARE IT AHEAD OF TIME, HAVE IT PRE MIXED IN A CONTAINER LABELED AS TO WHAT IT IS.
THIS WAS BASICALLY DOING THAT MIX AND PUTTING IT IN AN ACTUAL LIQUOR BOTTLE THAT SAYS.
>> RIGHT, THAT LIQUOR, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY MIXED WITH OTHER CONTENTS.
>> WERE THEY JUST DOING IT FOR THE LOOK?
I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH IN IT OBVIOUSLY, THESE FLAVORS AREN'T AVAILABLE.
I'VE CONFIRMED THIS IS A MIXED DRINK INSIDE OF IT.
IT'S SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN IT.
THEN WE HAVE HAD THIS IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S BEEN WORSE.
IT WAS BUGS IN THE ALCOHOL, I'M SURE YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT SO LIKE I SAID, I COULD GO EITHER WAY WITH IT.
>> DO YOU HEAR ALL OF THAT GLENN?
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>> YEAH. ARE WE DISCUSSING AND BRINGING THEM IN?
>> GLENN, WE'RE DISCUSSING ON WHAT THE BOARD BELIEVES IS THE NEXT STEP FOR THE INSPECTOR TO TAKE.
>> YEAH. THE PROBLEM IS THAT'S A PRETTY SERIOUS VIOLATION.
>> IF IT WAS A MINOR, THEN IT WOULD BE A NO BRAINER, BUT MEANS WE'VE LABELED THAT, IT'S CONSIDERED A MAJOR VIOLATION.
>> THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE DETERMINED THAT IF IT'S A MAJOR, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEFORE YOU.
AGAIN, IT'S AN ALLEGED VIOLATION, WE CERTAINLY BRING THEM IN HEAR WHAT HAPPENED.
>> DID YOU DOCUMENT AND TAKE PHOTOS ON THIS? IT WASN'T JUST SOMETHING YOU WITNESSED AND YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO SEE IF IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN.
IT'S A LIQUOR BOTTLE AND SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT IS IN THERE.
>> BUT YOU DIDN'T BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION THEN?
>> THAT IS ACTUALLY MY PLAN HERE IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.
IT WAS SO CLOSE TO THE ABOARD THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING THAT WOULD CONTRADICT WITH WHAT WE WERE THINKING.
>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO BRING THEM IN, JUST MY $0.02.
>> I'M PRETTY MUCH AT THAT ALSO, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GO BACK IN AND YOU STILL SEE THAT THIS IS CONTINUING TO HAPPEN.
I'M WITH GLENN. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THEY NEED TO COME IN FOR.
>> NOW, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE WRITING A VIOLATION, YOU'RE WRITING AN ACTUAL.
>> THEY'LL PREPARE A REPORT TO YOU SAYING THIS IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED. YES.
>> THEN IF IT WAS FOUND TO BE GUILTY OR NOT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE PUNISHMENT WOULD BE ON YOU GUYS TO DETERMINE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, BUT I THINK YOU'LL NEED TO BRING THEM IN.
>> TREY, WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE OF WHAT THE SUBSTANCE ACTUALLY IS?
>> IT WAS A FACEBOOK POST WITH OBVIOUSLY THE ESTABLISHMENT IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE PICTURE SO IT WAS CLEAR WHERE IT WAS.
I HAVE A PICTURE OF THE LABEL, I HAVE A PICTURE AND RESEARCH OF WHAT IS IN THOSE BOTTLES, WHAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THOSE BOTTLES, AND THEN ALL THE FLAVORS THAT THAT LINE CARRIES.
EVERYTHING THAT THEY CARRY DOES NOT COME IN THOSE COLORS AND IN THE PICTURE, THEY HAVE TAKEN A PIECE OF TAPE AND PUT ON THERE THE FLAVORS.
>> PEOPLE WILL COME IN AND BUY A BOTTLE THAT'S OPEN?
>> NO. I GUESS THEY'RE [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S BASICALLY YOU PUT IT IN A BOTTLE AND CHECK IT ALL UP.
>> SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS A CASE SO I AGREE WITH GLENN.
>> I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION BECAUSE YOU FIRST OFF, YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT IF YOU DON'T.
>> I KNOW WE WANTED TO STAY CONSISTENT ON WHAT WE DID, BUT WE ALSO [OVERLAPPING] EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN WEIGH AS WELL.
>> I UNDERSTAND THEIR NEW ESTABLISHMENT, BUT [OVERLAPPING] THEY ALSO THEY ALSO TESTIFIED THAT THEY KNEW THE RULES AND THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE RULES.
>> THEN WITH THE OBVIOUSLY, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BACKING THAT UP, THAT GOES OUT TO A GENERAL PUBLIC CONCERN OF WHAT'S IN THERE AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE OTHER VIOLATIONS ARE RELATIVELY CUT AND DRY.
SOME OF THE EVENTS I WENT TO THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY AROUND HALLOWEEN, LEFT ME WITH CONCERNS, AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP ME PREPARE FOR NEXT YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE EVENTS.
PLACES THAT ONLY HAVE ONE EVENT PER YEAR, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING FOR ME TO LOOK AT FOR NEXT YEAR.
THEN OBVIOUSLY, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON A BUNCH OF THINGS THIS MONTH.
IT'S MY BUSY MONTH THANKSGIVING AND HALLOWEEN, IT'S GOING TO BE.
BETWEEN WRITING VIOLATIONS AND DOING INSPECTIONS AND ALL THESE EVENTS, THAT'S WHAT TOOK UP MOST OF MY TIME AND HARASSMENT TRAINING THIS YEAR.
>> BETH AND I HAD HARASSMENT TRAINING.
>> WE KNOW WHY YOU DID. [LAUGHTER]
>> WHAT DID YOU LEARN AT THE TRAINING?
>> WE LEARNED A LOT. [LAUGHTER]
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>> [OVERLAPPING] INSPECTORS REPORT.
[Board Administrator's Report]
>> YES. THE PAST MULTI EVENT LICENSE.
>> WHAT'S THAT? MY LAST NUMBER?
>> PRESTON FIRE COMPANY HAD A CORNHOLE TOURNAMENT ON THE 19TH AND THEY ARE HAVING ANOTHER ONE ON THE 7TH.
THE AMERICAN LEGION HAD A TURKEY SHOOT ON 27 OCTOBER.
FEDERALSBURG, FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD THEIR DU DINNER AND THE ARTS COUNCIL HAD THEIR DINNER THEATER AT THE CULINARY CENTER.
THE CULINARY CENTER USED THAT AS ONE OF THEIR EVENTS FOR THEIR MULTI EVENT SO THEY HAD THAT NOVEMBER 2ND.
LIBRARY HAD THEIR MINI GO OFF NOVEMBER 9TH.
RED LIGHT LIQUORS HAD A TASTING ON NOVEMBER 15, GOLDSBORO HAD A HALL RENTAL FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY NOVEMBER 15, AND THE VFW IS HAVING A TURKEY SHOOT ON THE 28TH.
FROM LAST MONTH, FEDERALSBURG [INAUDIBLE] AND [INAUDIBLE], THEY CAME IN FAIRLY QUICKLY AND PAID THEIR FINE SO THAT'S DONE.
LIKE TREY SAID, THE VFW IS DOING SOME RENOVATIONS TO THEIR MAIN BAR.
THEY'RE NOT ADDING ANY MORE SEATING THEY'RE MAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM FOR THE BARTENDERS TO WORK AND THE BACK BAR WILL STILL BE OPEN FOR THEIR MEMBERS, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY HALL RENTALS DURING THAT TIME OF THE RENOVATIONS.
YOUR NEXT MEETING IS DECEMBER 18. THAT'S ALL.
>> THE VFW TURNED TO BE THE TWO PLACE AFTER THE DUTCH LIMITED EVENT WET OUT THAT AND THE HALLOWEEN EVENT.
SINCE THEIR APPROVAL, THEY'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF EVENTS OUTSIDE.
>> BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF OUR VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY.
>> I KNOW WHAT I WANT TO SEE, THE MANNY.
>> I SAW SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY.
THEY GOT SOME BIG GRANT OR SOMETHING.
>> I SAW THAT TOO. BECAUSE THAT BUILDING IS REALLY IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR.
>> IT WAS REALLY BAD SHAPE, BUT I THINK I SAW THAT TOO THAT THEY GOT SOME SORT OF GRANT TO RENOVATE THAT BUILDING SO IT'S POSSIBLE YOU MAY SEE THEM BACK.
BECAUSE THEY HELD A LICENSE THERE FOR YEARS AND THEN THEY STARTED DOING SOME ONE DAY MULTI EVENTS.
>> THE LAST TIME THEY HAD AN EVENT I WENT AND NOTHING WAS THERE.
>> THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT MAYBE WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR NEXT MONTH TO DISCUSS.
BUT IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT TRANSFERS AND NEW LICENSES THAT YOU HAVE DONE, WE HAVE IN OUR RULES AND REGS THAT THE APPROVAL IS FOR 30 DAYS.
I'M STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF REQUESTS COME BACK IN, IT'S JUST 30 DAYS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME, I THINK, TO GIVE THEM TO GET THEIR LICENSE.
BECAUSE THEY REQUIRED DOCUMENTS AND THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET A LICENSE, WE BREAK OUR CHECKLIST DOWN INTO, HERE ARE THE THINGS YOU NEED TO HAVE IN ORDER TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
IF YOU RECEIVE APPROVAL, THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SEE THESE ADDITIONAL ITEMS BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANT A PERSON TO GO APPLY FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT PERMITS AND LICENSES THEY NEED,
>> WITHOUT GETTING APPROVAL HERE.
>> IF YOU DON'T GET THE APPROVAL FOR THE LICENSE SO WE CERTAINLY SAY, YES, THESE CAN COME AFTER, BUT SOMETIMES THAT CAN TAKE SOME TIME.
LIKE THE BULK TRANSFER PERMIT, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A TRANSFER, THEY HAVE TO GO INTO AN INVENTORY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT TILL THEY'RE READY TO MAKE THE SALE.
THEN THEY HAVE TO SEND THAT TO THE COMPTROLLER, THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR INSPECTION, REVIEW THE APPLICATION, ISSUE THE PERMIT, AND THAT DOES TAKE SOME TIME.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO CONSIDER CHANGING YOUR RULES AND REGS AT LEAST 30-60 TO GIVE THEM 60 DAYS.
THE REASON WE ESTABLISHED THAT MANY YEARS AGO IS BECAUSE WE RAN INTO A PROBLEM WHERE THE BOARD HAD GRANTED A LICENSE, THE NEW LICENSEES BOUGHT THE BUSINESS, TRANSACTION HAD HAPPENED.
THEY HAD AN OUTSTANDING LIST OF ITEMS TO COMPLETE TO GET THAT LICENSE.
THEY'D BEEN IN THERE OPERATING FOR MONTHS, HAD A VIOLATION.
THEIR COUNSEL COME IN AND SAID, NOT MY CLIENT THEY DON'T HAVE A LICENSE.
BECAUSE YOU HAD APPROVED THEM, THEY HAD BOUGHT THE BUSINESS, THEY'VE BEEN IN THERE OPERATING, BUT THEY TECHNICALLY DID NOT HAVE THEIR LICENSE ISSUED TO THEM IN HAND.
BUT THE THOUGHT OF THE BOARD WAS, WELL, YOU'RE THE ONES COMMITTING THE VIOLATION, YOU'RE THERE, YOU'VE BOUGHT IT, WE'VE APPROVED YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR LICENSE,
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YOU'RE STILL THE PERSON WHO VIOLATED THE LAW.NO THEIR COUNSEL ARGUED THAT AND SAID, NO MY CLIENT DOESN'T HAVE A LICENSE SO WE LOST THAT CASE.
IN LIGHT OF THAT, THAT'S WHEN YOU ADOPTED REGULATIONS TO SAY, YOU'VE GOT A TIME LIMIT TO PICK UP THAT LICENSE ONCE THE BOARD GRANTS IT TO YOU.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE IT HANGING OUT THERE FOR SIX MONTHS SO THAT WAS THE REASON THE TIME GOT PUT IN THERE.
I THINK MAYBE IT'S TIME TO RE EVALUATE THAT AND SAY, AT LEAST 60 DAYS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO CONSTANTLY DO EXTENSIONS BECAUSE IT IS A SHORT TURNAROUND TIME.
>> WELL, WHAT MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE UP AGAINST THAT'S ON I GUESS THE CLERICAL END, IS ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION END.
EVERY ONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN IS BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION AND WHEN THEY GOT SO MANY DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE DOING IT, THEY'RE WAITING ON THIS CONTRACTOR OR THAT CONTRACTOR OR THIS PART OR THAT PART, IT TAKES TIME.
>> IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, WE CAN BRING A PROPOSED RULE AND REGULATION CHANGE TO YOU IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER.
OR IF YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN 60 DAYS, 60 IS BETTER THAN 30.
I THINK 30 IS JUST NOT WORKING.
>> MY INITIAL THOUGHT WHEN YOU BROUGHT THIS UP WAS RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD WAS 90 DAYS.
THAT'S WHAT I HAD. INITIALLY, I WAS LIKE, PROBABLY SHOULD BE 90 ANYWAY.
BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM THEY'RE LIKE YOU SAID THIS IS LIKE A STEPPING STONE.
THEY GOT TO GET APPROVAL HERE BEFORE THEY CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE SO A LOT OF THEM THEY GOT TO GET APPROVAL BEFORE THEY CAN ORDER COOLERS OR [INAUDIBLE] AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEN THAT STUFF HAS TO BE BUILT.
>> EXACTLY. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD, AND I DON'T THINK WE STRETCH IT OUT TOO LONG.
I THINK 90 DAYS IS REASONABLE.
>> COMES FROM THE VOICE IN THE BOX.
>> NO PROMISES FOR DECEMBER, IT MAY BE JANUARY, BUT WE'LL GET SOMETHING TOGETHER AND MAKE THAT CHANGE.
>> WHERE'S RIDGELY EXXON? [OVERLAPPING]
>> GOOD. I KNEW THEY WERE GETTING CLOSED, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO EXTEND THEM.
>> BUT THEY WERE THE ONE THAT RUN INTO IT, TOO.
WHEN THEY GOT INTO IT, THEY FOUND THAT THERE WAS MORE DAMAGE AND STUFF THAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED, ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER.
>> [INAUDIBLE], YOU DID GIVE THEM TILL THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I BELIEVE FOR THEIRS.
>> YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY MAKING MY WAY AROUND TO A LOT OF THESE NEW ESTABLISHMENTS, AND AT THE SAME TIME, ALSO TRYING TO GIVE THEM SOME ROOM TO GET THEIR FEET WET INSTEAD OF JUST ONE MORE THING FOR THEM TO VIOLATE AS LONG AS I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.
BUT LIKE THESE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS, I DID TO WALK THROUGH WITH THEM AND THEN WE'VE HAD ISSUES ARISE.
>> GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
>> I MAKE A MOTION WE CLOSE THIS MEETING.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND A SECOND THAT WE CLOSE THE MEETING FOR THE CARLIN COUNTY BOARD OF LICENSE COMMISSIONER FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2024.
>> ALL OPPOSED? SO MOVED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.