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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE AND WELCOME TO THE MARCH 24TH, 2026 CAROLINE COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING, WHICH IS NOW IN ORDER.
THIS MORNING WE HAVE OUR INVOCATION BY REVEREND KEN CLENDANIEL OF BETHLEHEM WESLEYAN CHURCH, AND THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SO IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE RISE.
OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE JUST THANK YOU TODAY.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS, WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE.
LORD, WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR ALLOWING US TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS SAFE AND IS FULL OF PEACE.
AND LORD, THE WAY THAT YOU'VE BLESSED US, WE JUST PRAISE YOU.
AND SO TODAY WE COME AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE AND DIRECT, GIVE GODLY WISDOM TO OUR LEADERSHIP.
WE THANK YOU FOR THEM, FOR THOSE THAT YOU'VE POINTED OVER US, AND WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM THE WISDOM THEY NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
TO BENEFIT THOSE WHO LIVE HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE.
LORD, MAY YOU GIVE US GREAT PASSION FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE TRUE AND FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN.
BUT LORD, MAY COOL HEADS PREVAIL IN OUR DISCUSSIONS.
LORD, MAY WE COME TOGETHER WITH UNITY OF MIND, WITH UNITY OF HEART, THAT TOGETHER WE MAY MOVE FORWARD AS A COMMUNITY.
AND SO, LORD, BLESS THIS MEETING, BLESS OUR TIME TOGETHER AND ALL THE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE.
AND WE JUST GIVE YOU PRAISE AND THANKS AND GLORY IN CHRIST'S NAME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
OKAY, I HAVE A PRESIDENT'S POST-SESSION REPORT OUT.
DURING THE MARCH 17TH, 2026 MEETING, THE BOARD MET IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER GENERAL PROVISIONS ARTICLE 7 TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REGARDING A SPECIFIC LICENSING AGREEMENT INVOLVING COUNTY-OWNED PROPERTY.
DISCUSSION WAS HAD REGARDING THE RENTAL USE OF COUNTY FACILITIES AND THE BOARD DID NOT WISH TO WAIVE THEIR RIGHT TO A CURRENT ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
OKAY, OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM THIS MORNING IS HOLLY TRACE, DIRECTOR OF NURSING FOR CAROLINE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WITH AN UPDATE ON THE MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH INITIATIVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY.
WE WANTED TO GIVE A QUARTERLY REPORT ON OUR MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH PROGRAM.
SO AS A REMINDER, OUR MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH PROGRAM IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND CAROLINE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.
AND WE PERFORM JOINT NURSING AND PARAMEDIC VISITS FOR PATIENTS WHO HAVE CALLED 911 FIVE OR MORE TIMES IN A SIX-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
AND OUR GOALS ULTIMATELY ARE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNNECESSARY 911 CALLS, REDUCE UNNECESSARY EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT VISITS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS, AND TO IMPROVE THE PATIENT'S HEALTH.
PATIENT SAFETY, WELL-BEING, AND
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ENHANCED DISEASE SELF-MANAGEMENT.SO I HAVE KJ MARBLE WITH ME TODAY, AND THEN THIS IS JENNA AMADOR, WHO IS OUR MIH NURSE.
SO THE DATA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TODAY IS FROM THE SOFT LAUNCH THAT WE DID IN DECEMBER 2025 THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY.
IN DECEMBER, WE STARTED A SOFT LAUNCH IN WHICH WE PERFORMED ONE MIH VISIT A WEEK.
GRANTED, WE HAD TWO HOLIDAYS IN THAT TIME PERIOD.
AND WE DID A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PRESENTATIONS TO TALK ABOUT OUR PROGRAM.
WE TALKED WITH CHOPTANK COMMUNITY HEALTH, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, SHORE REGIONAL HEALTH EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, THE ELHIC, LDAC COMMITTEES, DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, ALL OF OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS CARE FIRST.
SO OUR DATA SO FAR HAS BEEN VERY PROMISING.
WE DID SEE 10 NEW MIH PATIENTS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.
WE COMPLETED A TOTAL OF 17 MIH VISITS.
WE HAD TO GO BACK SEVERAL TIMES TO SEVERAL PATIENTS FOR ADDITIONAL FOLLOW-UPS AND WE DID HAVE 72 PATIENTS IN OUR AREA THAT MET MIH REFERRAL.
SO IT'S A PATIENT DEMOGRAPHIC THAT'S ON HERE YOU SEE THAT IT'S LABELED BY ADDRESSES SO OUT OF THOSE 10 PATIENTS, TWO PATIENTS ACTUALLY LIVE AT THE SAME ADDRESS, SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S ONLY NINE ADDRESSES THERE.
BUT THE GREEN BAR ACTUALLY REPRESENTS HOW MANY 911 CALLS WERE MADE FROM THE CLIENT PRIOR TO MIH VISIT, AND THEN THE GRAY BAR NEXT TO IT SHOWS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF 911 CALLS THAT CAME IN AFTER WE IMPLEMENTED MIH VISITS.
AS FAR AS REFERRALS THAT WERE MADE ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR, BY FAR WE HAVE MADE REFERRALS TO OUR INTERNAL SOCIAL WORKER AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND OUR ASSESSMENT, EVALUATION, AND REVIEW SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
WE ALSO MADE REFERRALS FOR FOOD SERVICES, UTILITY ASSISTANCE, AND TRANSPORTATION.
THE PRIMARY DIAGNOSES FOR EACH OF THE MIH PATIENTS WERE ACTUALLY LUMPED INTO THREE MAIN CATEGORIES, CARDIAC AND HEART DISEASE.
RESPIRATORY DISEASE AND THEN DIABETES.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE EMS AND HOSPITAL UTILIZATION MEASURES AFTER MIH ENROLLMENT OCCURRED WE DID HAVE THREE UNPLANNED HOSPITALIZATIONS THAT OCCURRED.
WE DID HAVE AN 85% REDUCTION IN 911 CALLS AFTER MIH ENROLLMENT FOR THESE CLIENTS.
WE DID HAVE THREE EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS RELATED TO HEART DISEASE, RESPIRATORY DISEASE, AND DIABETES AFTER ENROLLMENT AND WE OVERALL SAW 30% OF MIH PATIENTS WITH A HOSPITAL READMISSION RELATED TO EITHER HEART, RESPIRATORY, OR DIABETES.
KJ, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR COST SAVINGS? SO WE, I CALCULATED THE AVERAGE 911 CALL FOR THEM IS RIGHT AROUND 1500 BETWEEN $800 AND $1,500.
SO AVERAGE MEAN OF WHAT WE SAVED WAS $111,500 FOR OUR COST SAVINGS TO NOT TRANSPORT THESE PEOPLE TO THE HOSPITAL AND KEEP THEM IN THEIR HOMES.
SO THAT'S HUGE FOR US FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS.
AND THEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE STATISTICS IN CRISP AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD AN EMERGENCY ROOM VISIT COST FOR THESE CLIENTS.
SO FOR HEART DISEASE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT COSTS ABOUT $8,000 PER ED VISIT.
SO WE MULTIPLIED OUR NUMBERS BASED ON HOW THE CLIENTS FELL INTO WHICH CATEGORY, WHETHER IT WAS HEART DISEASE, DIABETES, OR RESPIRATORY.
SO IF YOU TOTALED IT UP ALL TOGETHER, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WAS PROBABLY ABOUT $20,000 IN SAVINGS.
OF HEALTHCARE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE BY DOING MIH VISITS VERSUS THE PATIENT HAVING TO GO TO THE ED ROOM FOR VISITS.
WE ALSO DO PATIENT SATISFACTION SURVEYS AT THE TIME OF ENROLLMENT, THEIR VERY FIRST VISIT, AND THEN WE DO THEM AGAIN AT 30, 60, AND 90 DAYS.
SO FAR ALL OF OUR PATIENT SATISFACTION SCORES HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY HIGH.
WE'VE GOTTEN 100% RATINGS SO FAR.
WE ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD ADDITIONAL PATIENTS, BUT EVERYBODY AT SOME POINT HAS FOUND VALUE IN THE SERVICES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE.
AND THEN KJ AND JENNA, DO YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES AND SOME OF THE BARRIERS THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED SO FAR? SURE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THE BARRIERS HAVE BEEN BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY DOING IT ONE DAY A WEEK CONCURRENTLY, THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS ALIGN WITH PEOPLE'S SCHEDULE.
SO BEING ABLE TO OFFER IT MORE DAYS WOULD BE...
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HELPFUL FUNDING, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.THAT'S DEFINITELY A BARRIER, NOT BEING ABLE TO DO MORE FOR THE CLIENTS IN THE MOMENT WHILE WE'RE THERE BECAUSE IT IS A NEW PROGRAM, RIGHT? SO WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING AND IDENTIFYING WHAT WE NEED WHILE WE'RE AT IT.
YOU KNOW, BARRIERS TO OUR CLIENTS IS JUST THE TRANSPORTATION.
WE DON'T HAVE IT IN OUR COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF SICK PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE AGING IN PLACE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS INFORMATION REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME HOW SICK OUR POPULATIONS ARE HERE IN THE COUNTY, AND THEY DON'T HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO CARE.
I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS PROGRAM IS SO IMPORTANT AND HELPFUL.
AND HEALTHCARE OVERALL, LONG PCP WAITS.
WE STRUGGLE SOMETIMES TRYING TO GET APPOINTMENTS IN A TIMELY FASHION FOR THEM.
WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO USE SOME TELEHEALTH WITH CHOP TANK, BUT ANY OTHER SPECIALTY CENTERS, IT'S HARD TO GET INTO A DOCTOR.
AND WE HAVE LACK OF EQUIPMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY STOCKPILE OF SMOKE DETECTORS AND GRAB BARS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN FIND FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE RESOURCES SO WE CAN PUT THOSE OUT IN THE FIELD.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO BETWEEN US AND THEM, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOME SMOKE DETECTORS.
AND A COUPLE OF THE FIRE CHIEFS HAVE SAID, WHEN YOU GET THEM, LET US KNOW, AND THEY'LL GO OUT AND INSTALL.
BUT THAT ALSO LEADS US TO SOME REALLY POSITIVE NEWS THAT WE RECEIVED THIS MORNING.
SO THE RURAL HEALTH TRANSFORMATION GRANT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT MONEY TO EXPAND MIH SERVICES STARTING JULY 1ST.
SO IT'S VERY EXCITING THAT IT WILL HELP US WITH MAKING THIS PROGRAM FULL-TIME AND THEN ALSO WITH THE SUPPLIES THAT WE NEED.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER PORTER? YEAH, THANK YOU.
WE'VE BEEN HEADED THIS WAY FOR A LONG TIME.
NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING THERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHAT THE AVERAGE AGE IS OF YOUR PATIENTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING? SO THE PATIENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING SO FAR HAVE MAINLY BEEN 65 AND OLDER.
AND GENERALLY, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE 72 THAT WERE REFERRED, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE AGES 50 AND OLDER THAT NEED.
AND WE HAVE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT TRYING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD UTILIZE THE URGENT CARE CENTER AS A LOCATION TO TAKE PEOPLE.
I KNOW PART OF THAT PROBLEM WAS GETTING THEM HOME, BUT ARE WE...
CLOSER ON THAT OR WHERE DO YOU THINK? SO WE ARE USING THE URGENT CARE CENTER THROUGH OUR ALTERNATIVE DESTINATION.
SO WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 911 AND MEETS THAT CRITERIA, WE DO TRANSPORT THEM TO URGENT CARE, AGAIN, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A WAY HOME.
SO WE ARE DOING THAT ON THE EMS SIDE.
WE HAVE NOT TALKED TO THEM POTENTIALLY ABOUT BEING A PARTNER AND DOING SOME TELE-EMS YET WITH MID-BORDER CREDIT HEALTH.
THEY ARE NOT THROUGH SHORE HEALTH ANYMORE.
THEY'RE AN INDEPENDENT REGIONAL, THE URGENT CARE CENTER.
WHO ARE THEY AFFILIATED WITH NOW? THE LAST I SAW WAS SHORE.
HAVE YOU APPROACHED THEM? I MEAN, HAVE YOU ASKED THEM OR JUST NOT HAD THAT CONVERSATION? SO WITH THIS RURAL HEALTH TRANSFORMATION GRANT, SO THE NEXT STEP IS ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A MEETING WITH SHORE HEALTH AND GOING TO THE TABLE TO SEE WHAT ADDITIONAL NEEDS WE NEED.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING TOO FROM THE RURAL HEALTH TRANSFORMATION THAT WE CAN ALSO THEN GIVE TO SHORE REGIONAL HEALTH OR UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE WITH THE MIH.
SO THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL BE HAD.
SO YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH UMS? YES.
AS WELL AS TOP TECH COMMUNITY HEALTH.
AND WOULD THAT INVOLVE THE LOCAL BOARD? WOULD THAT INVOLVE KEN KOZEL AND HIS GROUP TOO? YES, AND POPULATION HEALTH.
IF YOU NEED IT, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO THEM.
I'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
MONEY HAT ON HERE AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND OUT SOME OF THESE GRANTS THAT WE HAVE HANGING AROUND.
THIS MONEY THAT WE'VE GOT HANGING AROUND MAYBE COULD BE USED FOR THIS.
SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE A WAY THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THAT.
I THINK THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET TO, ESPECIALLY AS THE COUNTY WITHOUT A HOSPITAL.
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OF WHAT DRIVES THIS.AS EVERYONE KNOWS, WHEN WE LOAD A PATIENT IN AN AMBULANCE, IT'S A HAUL.
IT'S ABOUT A TWO-HOUR TURNAROUND TIME AND MILEAGE AND EVERYTHING.
PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FIRST PLACE OR IF WE CAN SHORTEN THE TRIPS AND IF WE CAN YOU KNOW ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BEFORE WE HAVE TO LOAD THEM THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD BE HEADED AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH UM AND UM I THINK WE THROW EVERYTHING WE GOT AT THIS AND SEE IF WE CAN KEEP KEEP IT MOVING THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT MR BARKS EVERYBODY GETS A SHOT.
I GUESS I CAN SLAY SOMETHING UP THERE.
ONE OF YOU KNOW ME NOT TO SAY ANYTHING.
NO? NO, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS SINCE THIS FIRST THING COME ABOUT.
I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS DAY TO SEE WHERE WE'VE COME WITH THIS.
SO, I MEAN, HOW MANY ARE WE TALKING? KJ I MEAN JUST SMOKE DETECTORS POTENTIALLY ONE FOR EVERY CLIENT OKAY SO YOU'RE TALKING WHAT RIGHT NOW 72 YEAH OKAY SO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE MATH ON THAT I DON'T KNOW I'M TODAY ON WHAT'S A SMOKE DETECTOR COST UM A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS NO THEY'RE LIKE 25 26 DOLLARS BUT OKAY USUALLY THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT OKAY THEY GIVE USUALLY ONCE A YEAR THEY GIVE EVERY DEPARTMENT LIKE 20 SMOKE DETECTORS.
WE USUALLY RUN THEM WHERE THERE'S LIABILITY.
NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE WIRED IN.
IS THAT WHERE THE TEST GOES? THEY'RE ALL BATTERIES.
CODE SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE IN EVERY BEDROOM, THE HALLWAY LEADING TO SLEEPING AREA.
THESE ARE THE 10 YEAR LITHIUM.
THEY'RE ALL 10 YEAR NOW, SO THEY'RE PROBABLY, I'LL SAY 35.
YEAH, SO I MEAN IT'S A VERY SMALL INVESTMENT.
IT IS AND IT IS VERY VALUABLE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE FIRE COMPANY, AGAIN.
WELL, FOR US PUTTING THEM UP, I MEAN GIVING THEM THE- AND THEY CAN'T TAKE THE BATTERY OUT OF THEM, SO THAT'S A PLUS.
MOST PEOPLE TAKE THE BATTERY OUT OF THEM.
WELL, IF IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THEM ANYWAY.
IF IT'S AN OWNER-OCCUPIED PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE YOU START GETTING INTO, YOU KNOW, DO THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
ARE ANY OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING REIMBURSABLE? THROUGH INSURANCES OR NO? CURRENTLY UNFORTUNATELY MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH IS NOT REIMBURSABLE THROUGH INSURANCE BUT THERE IS A BIG MOVEMENT AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CONTINUE FOR EVENTUALLY MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY OF OURS? ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S BEEN THERE HAS BEEN SOME BILLS.
THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO FORMULATE AND PUT THROUGH.
I'M JUST NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS.
IS IT A STATE PROBLEM OR IS IT A FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE PROBLEM? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? I'M HONESTLY NOT SURE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THAT GOING TO MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH CONFERENCES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE OF A FEDERAL ISSUE.
I KNOW MEMS HAS BEEN SUPPORTING A COUPLE THAT HAVEN'T GONE ANYWHERE.
NOW, THERE IS SOME LEGISLATIVE THAT YOU CAN BILL.
HOWEVER, IF YOU ACCEPT GRANTS, YOU CAN'T BILL.
SO WE'RE SORT OF IN THE WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE ACCEPT GRANT MONEY FOR OUR PROGRAM.
WELL, THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING.
YEAH, THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK TO CONGRESSMAN HARRIS'S OFFICE ABOUT OR, YOU KNOW.
THEY'RE ALWAYS ASKING US IF THEY CAN DO ANYTHING FOR US.
SO THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET DONE THAT WOULD HELP US FUND THIS.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE MILEAGE THAT WE PUT ON THE AMBULANCES EVERY YEAR, AND IT SHOULD EXTEND TO LIFE.
YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE, WHAT, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS NOW IS WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING.
SO, I MEAN, IF WE CAN GET AN EXTRA COUPLE YEARS OUT OF AN AMBULANCE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT
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OF SAVINGS FOR THE CAR.COUNTY THERE AS WELL AS KEEPING THE AMBULANCES IN THE COUNTY AND REDUCING THE PRESSURE TO ADD ANOTHER UNIT IN THE COUNTY.
I MEAN WE HAVE FIVE STAFFED RIGHT NOW UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS RIGHT WE UP STAFF DURING EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS TO SIX BUT IT SHOULD REDUCE PRESSURE TO ADD ANOTHER UNIT IF WE'RE KEEPING THEM IN THE COUNTY RIGHT.
IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE US AVAILABLE FOR ACTUAL TRUE, YOU KNOW, KEEP, YEAH.
THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM, ARE THEY PRETTY WELL SCATTERED ALL OVER THE ENTIRE COUNTY? YEAH.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE UPDATE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO STANDING UP THIS NEW PROGRAM.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S VERY PROMISING.
AND WE'LL BE BACK IN JUNE WITH ANOTHER UPDATE.
IF I CAN JUST ADD REAL QUICK THAT I DID, HOLLY MENTIONED SOME INFORMATION THAT SHE RECEIVED THIS MORNING.
YESTERDAY I WAS ON A HEALTH OFFICER'S CALL OF FUNDING AND I DIDN'T GET COMPLETE DETAILS ABOUT IT YET.
WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH IT, BUT IT LOOKS VERY PROMISING FOR US IN CAROLINE COUNTY.
SO THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
THOSE ARE THE RURAL HEALTH TRANSFORMATION PROGRAM FUNDING.
IT WAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS A PROVISION IN THE BIG BILL THAT THEY PASSED, RIGHT? THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL TO PUSH MORE FEDERAL DOLLARS TOWARDS RURAL HEALTH CARE.
AND I'M ASSUMING IT'S DIRECTED AT THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. YES, THERE ARE SEVERAL PRIORITIES.
DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE ALLOCATING THAT MONEY? I MEAN, IS IT SO MUCH TO EACH COUNTY OR DO YOU APPLY? SO WE...
MARYLAND, WE ESTABLISHED REGIONS AND WE WILL BE OUR REGION.
CAROLINE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE CRYSTAL DADS, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND CODES IN THE ER KITCHEN WITH A CONSTRUCTION TRADES BOARD, I GUESS, REQUEST FOR A RESOLUTION CHANGE.
WHAT I'VE BROUGHT TO YOU TODAY IS A DRAFT RESOLUTION FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE 2020 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
CURRENTLY WE ARE UNDER THE 2017 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
BACK IN 2020 WHEN THE STATE OF MARYLAND PASSED THE MARYLAND ELECTRICIANS ACT WHICH TOOK AWAY THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ABILITY TO LICENSE ELECTRICIANS.
ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THAT ACT WAS THAT THE STATE WOULD TAKE OVER THE ADOPTION OF THE ELECTRICAL CODE STATEWIDE, SO THAT THERE WERE NOT VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS OPERATING UNDER DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE CODE.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE THAT WITHIN 18 MONTHS, AND ERIC SMITH, OUR TRADES BOARD CHAIR, SITS ON THE STATE BOARD, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVE YET TO DO THAT.
MOST OF OUR SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE 2020 CODE.
WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER IT AND NOW WE WANT TO DO THE OFFICIAL RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THAT 2020 CODE.
AND I THINK MR. KITCHEN CAN SPEAK TO, AS WORKING IN THE TRADE, THE DIFFICULTY OF WORKING IN THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS IF THEY'RE UNDER VARIOUS DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE CODE AND WHAT'S APPLICABLE IN ONE COUNTY THAT'S NOT IN ANOTHER.
KITCHEN AND I'M A LICENSED MASTER ELECTRICIAN.
IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT WORKING IN DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS UNDER DIFFERENT CODES.
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THE TOWN OF DENTON OPERATES UNDER A DIFFERENT CODE THAN CAROLINE COUNTY.SO YOU GOTTA FIND OUT IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE OR NOT, WHICH CODE YOU HAVE TO MEET.
THERE ARE IN THE 2020 CODE A FEW UPDATES AND MOST OF THEM ARE SAFETY ORIENTED.
THERE IS SOME THINGS LIKE GROUND FAULT PROTECTION HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO INCLUDE.
THINGS LIKE RANGES AND DRYERS WITHIN SIX FEET OF A WET AREA SUCH AS A SINK OR A TUB.
OUTDOOR AIR CONDITIONING HEAT PUMP UNITS HAVE TO BE GROUND FAULT PROTECTED.
THAT'S ALL SAFETY ISSUES, DISHWASHER DISPOSALS.
TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS ON WHEN YOU'RE TIGHTENING SCREWS AND BOLTS UP, THEY NOW HAVE SPECIFIC TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS SO YOU DON'T.
UNDER TIGHTEN OR OVER TIGHTEN WHICHEVER YOU HAVE SURGE PROTECTION WOULD BE REQUIRED NOW WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT HELPS A PERSON BUT IT HELPS APPLIANCES SO IN THE END IT SHOULD SAVE THE CONSUMER MONEY EGRESS DOORS AND THAT'S IN IN COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE DOUBLE EGRESS DOORS NOW TO GET OUT OF A MECHANICAL ROOM.
AND IT'S PURE SAFETY SO THE PERSON WORKING IN THERE COULD GET OUT SAFELY IF SOMETHING OCCURRED.
AND THEY'VE SPECIFIED THAT THE DOORS HAVE TO OPEN IN THE DIRECTION OF THE EGRESS.
AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE PUSH BARS ON THEM.
JUST VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE HAVE TO PUT NOW PUT AN EMERGENCY DISCONNECT SWITCH ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE AND A ONE OR TWO FAMILY DWELLING.
THAT EMERGENCY DISCONNECT IS IF ANYTHING IS GOING ON IN THAT HOUSE AND IT WOULD PROBABLY MOSTLY BE FIRE COMPANY.
THEN WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE POWER COMPANY TO GET THERE TO SHUT THE POWER DOWN.
THEY CAN HIT THAT MAIN BREAKER.
IT'S CLEARLY MARKED AND THEY CAN SHUT IT RIGHT OFF.
AND IF THERE WERE A POLICE ISSUE, THE POLICE COULD DO IT TOO.
ANY EMERGENCY SERVICES, PEOPLE COULD DO THAT.
AND YES, IT DOES ADD A SMALL AMOUNT OF COST.
AND DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, PROBABLY.
ANYWHERE FROM $500 TO $3,000 COST, BUT IT IS ALL SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE PROVEN TO WORK.
SO, AND JUST BEING IT, MAKING IT UNIFORM.
I HAD A CONVERSATION RIGHT AT THE END OF LAST WEEK WITH ONE OF THE ELECTRICAL INSPECTORS THAT INSPECTS THE TOWN OF DENTON.
AND SOME QUESTIONS CAME UP ABOUT THE COUNTY.
THEY DON'T DO THE COUNTY, THAT PARTICULAR AGENCY.
AND WHAT CODE ARE THEY ON NOW? SO IT'S A PROBLEM FOR THE INSPECTORS TOO.
CUZ THEY'VE GOTTA GO BACK AND WE ON THE SHORE, WE HAD PEOPLE FROM 2020 ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2008 CODES.
AND IT'S DRIVING THE INSPECTORS NUTS.
WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW JURISDICTIONS NOW THAT ARE NOT.
I'M UP TO CODE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND I DON'T LIKE TO SAY ALL THE NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS, BUT IT CERTAINLY MAKES LIFE SIMPLER IF WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE DO EVERYTHING EQUALLY AND TOGETHER.
THAT WAY EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY GET HERE.
AND IF WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE ELECTRICAL COMPANY COME IN TO DO WORK IN THIS COUNTY, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CODE THEY'RE ON.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GO UP AND SEE CRYSTAL AND SAY, HEY, WHAT CODE ARE WE ON? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO UNIFY AND MAKE THINGS SIMPLER.
ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'VE ANSWERED MOST.
MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE WHAT'S THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CODES, BUT YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH COVERED THAT.
ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING HAS BEEN A CODE FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING FOR, I THINK, A LONG TIME, CORRECT? I DON'T DO MANY MULTIFAMILY HOUSES.
YES, THIS WILL BE FOR ONE AND TWO FAMILIES.
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WHAT CODE DOES DENTON USE? I MEAN, SO WE'RE USING A DIFFERENT CODE THAN DENTON? YES, WE'RE ONE CODE.THE CODE UPGRADES EVERY THREE YEARS.
IT WILL UPGRADE AGAIN LATER THIS YEAR.
BUT RARELY DOES ANYBODY GO WITH THAT UPGRADE FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
THEY KIND OF LET IT SETTLE IN.
BUT EVERY THREE YEARS IT'S UPGRADED, AND WE DID NOT FOLLOW THE LATEST UPGRADE.
AND SOME PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, I'D DO EVERYTHING THE SAME, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO.
I COULD GIVE YOU A LESSER CODE AND STILL BE TOTALLY LEGAL PAST INSPECTION, AND IT'S DONE THE WAY THAT OUR CODE SAYS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT.
BUT IT WOULD JUST MAKE IT A LOT SIMPLER IF EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME PAGE DOING THE SAME THING.
YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
THIS JUST MAKES SENSE TO ADOPT THIS, TO BE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND ONE OTHER POINT THAT HAS NO ADOPTION ON THAT, YOU'RE CORRECT.
I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A 277-3 PHASE.
277 IS DERIVED OFF OF 480, WHICH CAN BE SINGLE OR THREE-PHASE.
AND THESE ARE JUST FOR LIGHTS.
SO, THREE-PHASE IS NORMALLY FOR MOTORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, RIGHT? YES.
SO, I THINK HE WAS TOLD WRONG THIS MORNING.
SO, BUT WE'LL FIND OUT AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.
VOLUNTEERING TO SERVE ON THE TRADES BOARD AS WELL AND COMING IN THIS MORNING AND YOU KNOW PRESENTING EXPLAINING THIS TO US.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE YOU KNOW DO I LIKE THE IDEA OF AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR A SWITCH NOT NECESSARILY OR YOU KNOW DOUBLE DOORS WITH PUSH BARS NOW DRIVING THE CALL STUFF BUT I MEAN YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA I GUESS STICK WITH THE TIMES HERE AND BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS SO IT'S JUST EVERYTHING, LIKE YOU SAID, EVERYTHING'S GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE AND MORE RULES TO FOLLOW, RIGHT? THAT'S IT.
YOU THINK AN INSPECTOR'S GOING TO GO AROUND WITH A TORQUE SCREWDRIVER AND CHECK WHAT YOU'VE GOT? SOME OF THEM MIGHT.
THE FIRST, LIKE THE EMERGENCY SWITCHES, THE FIRST LIFE THAT WE SEE SAVED.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE WORTH IT TO BE ABLE TO SHUT IT DOWN.
WELL, I GUESS WE CAN MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? ARE YOU READY TO APPROVE IT? I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO.
IT'S A RESOLUTION, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
AND IT'S NOT LEGISLATION EITHER.
WE LISTED IT AS A DRAFT, SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER FOR IT.
YOU JUST PUT IT ON THE CONSENT FOR NEXT WEEK? YEAH, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING.
AND THAT WAY IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER REVISIONS OR ANYTHING BUT UH LET'S DO THAT THEN OKAY SO ALL RIGHT THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU R OKAY NOW FOR THE FUN PART SPENDING MONEY UM FISCAL YEAR 2027 CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET WORKSHOP GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY SCREEN SHARED.
I HAVE ON THE SCREEN OUR OPERATING BUDGETS.
I KNOW ALL THREE OF YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE BUDGETS NOW AND AS YOU CAN SEE YOUR PROPOSED BUDGETS ARE LISTED ON HERE.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE KIND OF START GOING THROUGH IT? I JUST THOUGHT WE'D START GOING LINE BY LINE TO TRY AND GET A PROPOSED BUDGET TOGETHER.
WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BY APRIL 13TH SO THAT WE CAN ADVERTISE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING MAY 5TH.
SO WE DO HAVE TO HAVE OPERATING PROPOSED BUDGET AND CAPITAL BUDGET TOGETHER BY APRIL 13TH.
SO I WAS PLANNING TO DO OPERATING TODAY, AND THEN PROBABLY CAPITAL WILL HAVE TO BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THE 7TH.
I WAS GOING THROUGH THESE LAST NIGHT.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT ABOUT SEVEN ITEMS, LINE ITEMS, THAT WE DON'T AGREE ON.
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YEAH, I GUESS WE COULD JUST BREEZE THROUGH THE ONES THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON AND JUST, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN JUST STOP AT THE ONES WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION OR EXPLANATION OF WHERE WE'RE AT.I DID DO SOME MORE DIGGING INTO THE PAB EXPENSES WITH THAT GRANT GOING AWAY AND WE HAD ABOUT FIFTEEN THOUSAND ADDITIONAL IN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S LINE, I BELIEVE WE CAN REDUCE THAT BY 12,000, IF NOT MAYBE THE FULL 15,000.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE AT LEAST REMOVE 12,000 FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S BUDGET FOR THE PAB EXPENSES.
IF YOU GUYS ARE ON BOARD WITH THAT.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO REMOVE, WE CAN.
SO WHAT'S THAT GET US DOWN TO? $739,509.
AND THE NEXT LINE IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SLIGHTLY, SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THAT LINE.
WHAT I DID, I DID NOT FUND EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE INTERN.
SO I JUST REDUCED IT $11,000, THE REQUEST.
WELL, WE HAVE TWO OF THE THREE.
SO WE'RE GOOD? SO WE'RE GOOD THERE? YEAH.
AND I BELIEVE THE NEXT COUPLE ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.
ASSESSMENT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.
ASSESSMENT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.
OFFICE OF FINANCE, WE ALL AGREED ON THAT ONE.
OFFICE OF LAW, WHAT I DID WAS I KEPT THE MILEAGE AND CONFERENCE THE SAME AS FY26 ADOPTED BUDGET.
SO THAT'S WHY MY NUMBER WAS DIFFERENT.
AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BARTZ DID THE SAME? DID THE SAME THING, CORRECT.
SO WE HAVE TWO OUT OF THREE THERE.
THAT'S JUST A SLIGHT REDUCTION? CORRECT.
KEEP MOVING, COMMISSIONER PORTER.
OFFICE OF HUMAN RESOURCES, I DID NOT, AND MY NUMBER MAY NOT BE CORRECT HERE, IF THE $40,155 IS NOT AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF THE MAINTENANCE INCREASE, IF THERE'S OTHER STUFF IN THERE.
BUT MY INTENTION WAS NOT TO INCREASE THE SUBSCRIPTION FOR NEOGOV TO MOVE AWAY FROM PACOM.
WAS THERE MORE TIME NEEDED TO? RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING NEOGOV FOR OUR EMPLOYEE REVIEW AND HR FUNCTIONS, RIGHT? AND THEN WE'RE USING PAYCOM FOR JUST PAYROLL.
YEAH, PAYCOM IS STRICTLY PAYROLL.
OKAY, BUT NEOGOV CAN DO THE PAYROLL.
BUT I THINK I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE DIDN'T WANT TO USE NEOGOV'S PAYROLL SYSTEM BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE MORE CUMBERSOME OR DIFFERENT.
WHEN WE STARTED NEOGOV, WE WERE RELUCTANT TO GO ALL IN UNTIL WE KNEW THAT IT WORKED WELL.
SO THAT WAS REALLY THE PRIMARY REASON.
SO WE WANTED TO SEE HOW IT WORKED FOR OUR HR MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE BEFORE WE PAID THE EXTRA MONEY AND MOVED AWAY FROM PAYCOM.
BUT WE HAVE HAD ENDLESS PROBLEMS WITH PAYCOM ALSO.
IN FACT, I THINK DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOX TOLD THEM, THREATENED TO LEAVE AFTER THE LAST DEBACLE WE HAD WITH THEM.
WELL, I TALKED TO MR. FOX, AND HE WAS LIKE, WELL, I'D LIKE TO, I DON'T KNOW.
HE WAS A LITTLE SLOW ON MAKING THIS SWITCH IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
HE WANTED TO GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE TIME.
BUT, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE HAD DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, THIS SHOULD RIGHT SIZE AFTER THIS YEAR, RIGHT? THIS IS GOING TO COVER TWO SUBSCRIPTIONS.
COST IN THE FIRST YEAR IS HIGHER JUST BECAUSE OF THE SETUP COST AND GETTING US GOING IN IT RIGHT PLUS HAVING TO CONTINUE TO USE PAYCOM FOR A WHILE OR NO IT TAKES A WHILE TO TRANSITION OUT THERE WILL BE A TRANSITION BUT YEAH I CAN'T IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH I I I UNDERSTAND NOBODY WAS HAPPY WITH PAYCOM AT ALL RIGHT CORRECT SO THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW I THINK EVEN THE DIRECTORS WERE KIND OF YEAH IT HAS NOT WORKED OUT WELL IT HAS NOT WORKED WELL NO, SO THAT'S WHY I'M, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE LIFE EASIER, THEN I THINK I'M FINE.
EVERYBODY'S LAUGHING, SO I DON'T THINK...
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EVERYBODY'S LAUGHING.ARE THEY THE COMMERCIALS YOU SEE ON TV FOR THE PAYROLL? I DON'T WATCH ANY.
YOU DON'T WATCH TV? NOT REALLY.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THERE TO WATCH, MAN.
OUR DIRECTOR IS NOT HERE, BUT I KNOW SHE'S BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO STREAMLINE FUNCTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF HER GOALS IS TO GET US ALL INTO ONE SOFTWARE SO WE'RE NOT MANAGING MULTIPLE SOFTWARE PLATFORMS. AND I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH HER AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION TO GET MORE CLARITY ON IT TOO IF YOU WANT.
MAYBE I JUST HAD BAD INFORMATION OR MAYBE IT'S CHANGED SINCE THE CONVERSATION I HAD.
DANIEL SAID SEE SO GOOD I GUESS GO AHEAD AND PENCIL IT IN AT 727 OKAY 183 OKAY ALL RIGHT PLANNING CODES YOU GUYS ALL AGREED YEAH I MEAN UNLESS WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH CHOICE THERE UNLESS WE'RE GONNA GENERAL SERVICES WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
AND OFFICE OF TECHNOLOGY, WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT? YEP.
THE NEXT SECTION IS CIRCUIT COORDINATOR SHERRY UPSTAIRS.
THOSE ARE ALL DOLLAR IN, EXCUSE ME, DOLLAR IN, DOLLAR OUT.
SO WHATEVER EXPENSES WE HAVE, WE RECEIVE THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR PROBLEM SOLVING COURT, PILOT PROGRAM, FAMILY SERVICES, PERFORMANCE INITIATIVE GRANTS.
THE FIRST FOUR IN THERE ARE ALL DOLLAR IN, DOLLAR OUT.
AND THEN CIRCUIT COURT, THOSE ARE ALL GRANT FUNDED.
SO CIRCUIT COURT, WHAT I DID WAS REMOVE THE NEW POSITION.
AND WHAT I WAS GONNA DO WAS FUND THE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
IF YOU RECALL, I ASKED JUDGE PRICE, WHICH SHE WOULD PRIORITIZE AND SHE ASKED FOR THE PARKING LOT, I BELIEVE.
SO, I SHOULD, BUT I DID HAVE TO AMEND MY NUMBER BECAUSE I THINK I TOOK THE ENTIRE INCREASE.
SO, I ENDED UP AMENDING IT TO 436,503. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? I KNOW, BUT THAT WAS REMOVING ALL OF HER INCREASE REQUESTS.
WHAT I MEANT TO DO WAS JUST PULL OUT JUST THE POSITION.
YES, IF YOU REMOVE JUST THE POSITION, IT'S 436, 503.
SHE HAD SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE.
SHE HAD A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT THAT WENT UP.
SHE KEPT THE OFFICE SUPPLIES THE SAME.
WENT UP A THOUSAND, A THOUSAND, TO JUDGE THAT, I JUST, THREE FOR THE NEW, IS, IS THE NEW NUMBER.
YEAH, 436503 WOULD BE THE NEW NUMBER.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT AT IS 436503.
THAT'S JUST REMOVING THE POSITION, POSITION, AND I DID THE SAME THING, BUT MY NUMBER WAS.
OKAY, BUT YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH THE 436 503 THEN? SO WHAT'S THE 436 CONSIST OF? THAT CONSISTS OF ALL THE INCREASES EXCEPT FOR THE POSITION, THE ONES THAT COMMISSIONER BREEDING JUST READ OFF.
IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL OVER ABOVE A FLAT BUDGET, THE ADDITION OF $2,000 FOR A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, $10,000 FOR JURORS, $1,000 FOR OTHER EXPENSES AND $1,000 FOR COURT EVENTS.
I THINK I JUST ADDED, SUBTRACTED WRONG.
IT'S A LOT OF NUMBERS TO DEAL WITH.
I WAS TELLING KATHLEEN IN BETWEEN GOING TO THE BOOK AND BACK TO THE, YEAH.
I MEAN, ACTUALLY, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHY I EDITED THIS WRONG, BUT I LEFT AT 11-5.
I TOOK OUT THE COURT EVENTS AND THE POSITION.
BUT YOU'RE GOOD? I'M GOOD WITH THE 436.
YOU GUYS ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT ONE, AND STATE'S ATTORNEY IS OUR NEXT ONE, WHERE WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
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329, 989, SO IT'S NOT THE...WHAT I DID WAS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING THIS MORNING.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SO CLOSE TO THE MEETING.
I WAS TRYING TO GO BACK AND DECIPHER WHAT I DID.
SO THE BIGGEST INCREASE IS FOR THE THREE POSITIONS, AND THEN IT'S SOME SMALL INCREASES.
SO I KEPT HIS CONFERENCE EXPENSE AND DATA THE SAME.
IT WAS IN THE 26 ADOPTED BUDGET, IT WAS $10,000.
I TOOK THE OFFICE SUPPLIES AND THE ACTUAL AMOUNT SPENT IN 25 WAS ONLY $920.
THE REQUESTED BUDGET WAS FOR $13,000.
TO KIND OF RIGHT SIZE IT WITH WHAT THE 25 ACTUAL WAS.
OFFICE SUPPLIES, HE HAD ACTUAL AT $5,200.
THE ADOPTED BUDGET IN 26 WAS 06,000.
HE WAS REQUESTING IT GO UP TO 08,000, SO I KEPT IT AT 6.
EXTRADITION COSTS, ACTUAL IN 25 WAS 2,800 BUCKS.
THE 26 ADOPTED BUDGET WAS $4,500.
BOND AND INSURANCE, I JUST KEPT THAT AT $100.
AND THEN OTHER EXPENSES, ACTUAL IN 25 WAS ONLY $6,500.
WE ADOPTED IN OUR 26 BUDGET $15,000.
HE WAS REQUESTING IT TO GO TO $18,000.
AND THEN I DIDN'T GIVE ANY OF THE POSITIONS.
SO THE TOTAL REDUCTION IN THE REQUEST SHOULD BE, FOR ME, $359,489.
THAT'S HOW I CAME UP WITH $1,218,666.
I THINK THE ONLY THING I DID WAS CUT OUT.
I SUBTRACTED A LITTLE BIT OF THE. . .
OTHER EXPENSES, I LEFT IT AT 15.
AND THE MILEAGE AND CONFERENCE, I LEFT IT AT 10.
AND THEN NOT THE THREE POSITIONS.
I THINK I DID THE SAME THING, EXCEPT I FUNDED THE PARALEGAL POSITION, WHICH I THINK HE, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE PRIORITY OF THE THREE.
SO WHAT'S THE NEW NUMBER WITHOUT THE POSITION? WHAT NUMBER WAS YOURS, TRAVIS? I WAS 436,503.
AND THAT'S NOT FUNDING ANY OF THE POSITIONS? NO, NO NEW POSITIONS UP THERE.
SO IS THAT THE NUMBER WE'RE GOING WITH FOR NOW? I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
AND I DID A COMPARISON LAST YEAR.
I THINK WE WERE IN LINE WITH WHAT DORCHESTER AND TOLMAN WERE SPENDING ON OUR STATE'S ATTORNEYS.
THE EXTRA, I DIDN'T GO BACK TO THE...
I DIDN'T DO A COMPARISON WITH WHAT...
JURISDICTIONS OF SIMILAR SIZE ARE SPENDING, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY HAD LARGE INCREASES.
NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
I DID NOT FUND THE ADDITIONAL $25,000 FOR THE CONTRACTUAL POSITION.
IT WAS THE ONLY THING I DID FUND THERE.
YES, THE OTHER TWO HAVE IT IN THERE.
UNLESS THEY WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE, WE'LL GO AHEAD.
I BET THAT SETS YOU BACK, CAPTAIN.
WHAT CONTRACT? I DON'T REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THAT CONTRACT.
WHAT CONTRACT? SO IT'S A PART-TIME PERSON THAT ENLISTS THEM.
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DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY ELSE CERTIFIED TO DO IT? YEAH, WE HAVE PLENTY OF OUR...I MEAN DO THEY DO THAT IN THE SUMMER WHEN SCHOOL'S NOT OR? YEAH, I MEAN IT WAS JUST A REGULAR WEEK.
SO WE'RE GOING TO THE 6 MILLION 434185? YES.
THE NEXT TWO LINES ARE THE CONTRACTED TOWN COVERAGE FOR FELLSBURG AND RIDGELY.
AND THESE COMING ONLINE, WHEN PEOPLE...
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE DONE IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS IS I LOOK AT HOW MUCH OUR BUDGET INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET INCREASES, THIS KIND OF MAKES IT LOOK LIKE OUR BUDGET IS, WHICH IT IS INCREASING, BUT THESE ARE IN AND OUT FUNDING SOURCES.
SO, YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET, THAT'S LIKE $1.3 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND EXPENSES.
THAT REALLY AREN'T COSTING THE COUNTY ANYTHING, BUT IT INFLATES OUR OVERALL BUDGET GROWTH BECAUSE WE'RE NOW PROVIDING POLICING IN THOSE MUNICIPALITIES.
OTHER THINGS THAT DO THOSE KINDS OF PRESSURES ARE, YOU KNOW, THE TEACHER'S PENSION THAT WE'VE HAD TO TAKE ON FUNDING AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS OUR BUDGET CONTINUES TO GROW.
THE PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE THAT WE GIVE TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS OR ALLIED AGENCIES MAY BE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COMES OUT PERCENTAGE-WISE OUT OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET AND GOES TO THOSE DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
BUT ANYWAY, SO WE'RE GOOD ON THOSE.
THE SROS, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
THEN WE GET TO VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES.
SO WHAT I DID, FIRST LINE ITEM IS THE LOW SAP.
I THINK WE'RE CURRENTLY WAITING ON AN ACTUARIAL FROM OUR INVESTMENT FIRM TO DETERMINE AT WHAT LEVEL THE PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY FUNDED.
ONE THING THAT I REALLY BELIEVE IN IS IF WE OBLIGATE THE COUNTY TO THINGS THAT WE FIND WAYS TO PAY FOR IT AND MADE SURE THAT WE PUT THE MONEY AWAY TO COVER THOSE COSTS.
SO I THINK I'D LIKE TO KNOW BECAUSE WE MADE SOME CHANGES I THINK LAST YEAR WHAT DO WE DO LAST YEAR WE WENT TO THE STEP WHERE EACH YEAR YOU GET A STEP RIGHT.
BEFORE YOU HAD TO WAIT THREE YEARS BEFORE YOU GOT A STEP OR FIVE YEARS? WAS IT FIVE? OKAY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT THE ACTUAL COST OR AT WHAT LEVEL WE'RE FUNDED BACK FROM BOLTON.
IS BOLTON THE FIRM DOING IT? YEAH.
THE LAST TIME I CHECKED IT WASN'T.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE FUND ITSELF? FUNDED.
BUT I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT, THOUGH.
YES, AND IT'S GOING UP EVERY YEAR.
THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE FUNDING, YEAH.
RIGHT, AND WHEN YOU ADD A COLA EACH YEAR, IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN OVERARCHING EFFECT ON OUR LONG-TERM LIABILITY.
SO EACH YEAR YOU ADD A COLA IN THERE, IT'S GOING TO, AND WE HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT TO THE ACTUAL AREA, AND IT'LL HAVE OUR LIABILITY GO UP.
SO WHAT STACY'S TALKING ABOUT IS WE JUST RAN INTO THIS WITH OPEB.
WAS IT OPEB WHERE WE'VE GIVEN? COLA INCREASES TO THE RETIREES TWO YEARS IN A ROW OR THREE YEARS IN A ROW.
AND WHEN THE ACTUARIAL, WHEN THE ACCOUNTING FIRM LOOKS AT THAT, THEY HAVE TO START BAKING THAT INTO THE FORMULA THAT THEY USE TO CALCULATE THE PENSION LIABILITY.
SO WHAT IT DOES IS IT REDUCES THE PERCENTAGE OF FUNDING IF WE DO IT REGULARLY.
I THINK IF YOU DO IT EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS, YOU'RE OKAY.
ON A CONSISTENT BASIS THEN IT'S
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GOING TO AFFECT IT LONG TERM EVERY YEAR.THEN THE ACCOUNTING FIRM'S GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY HEY YOU'RE GIVING THIS EVERY YEAR SO NOW YOUR FUNDING LIABILITY, YOUR PERCENTAGE OF THE FUNDING IS GOING TO DROP.
DROP, CORRECT, BECAUSE YOUR LIABILITY BECOMES HIGHER.
I JUST, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BEFORE WE MADE A DECISION ON THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ACTUARIAL COME BACK SO WE KNOW ACTUALLY WHAT PERCENT WE ARE FUNDED AT.
I THINK IT'S HIGHER THAN THE LAST ONE WE RECEIVED, WHICH WAS LIKE 60%, 70%.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT PULLING IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
WE'RE PULLING IT OUT OF THE INVESTMENT.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOR.
BUT THE DOLLARS ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER WITH INFLATION.
THESE ARE OBLIGATIONS, THINGS THAT WE'RE OBLIGATING NOW.
IF YOU MAKE THE PROPER INVESTMENT, IT SHOULD COME OUT OF THE INVESTMENT RETURN, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S HOW WE CURRENTLY DO OPEB.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE 80-90% FUNDED.
I'LL REACH OUT TO BOLTON AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME NUMBERS.
THE STOCK MARKET WAS DOING PRETTY GOOD UNTIL THIS WEEK.
SO, DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH NUMBER YOU WANT TO PUT IN HERE AS A PLACEHOLDER RIGHT NOW, OR DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT ONE? WELL, YOU'VE GOT TWO.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE NUMBER? I'LL REACH OUT TO BOLTON AND TRY AND GET IT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
IF WE CAN ADJUST IT, WE WILL, BUT...
WELL, THE 265 IS WITH A 6% COLA INCREASE.
SO THAT'S ALREADY WITH THE INCREASE UP.
MINE WAS JUST KEEPING IT FLAT WITHOUT A COLA INCREASE.
FIRE COMPANIES? WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS HERE AS WELL.
YES, COMMISSIONER BARTZ DID A 7% INCREASE.
I KNEW I WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE.
WELL, I MEAN, BECAUSE MATT AND DOUG ARE HERE, I WANT TO EXPLAIN SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHY.
I THINK I DID 10 BECAUSE OF THAT.
WELL WE'VE DONE THREE OR WE'VE DONE THREE YEARS AT 10%.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS DID BEFORE THAT BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT WHAT THE BUDGET OVERALL BUDGET INCREASED IN THOSE THREE YEARS.
SO FROM 23 TO 24 THE COUNTY BUDGET INCREASED 6.1 PERCENT.
FROM 24 TO 25 IT JUMPED 20 PERCENT.
IT WENT UP 13 MILLION DOLLARS IN ONE YEAR BUT STACEY AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT.
RIGHT, IT'S MORE GRANTS COMING ON THAT ARE DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR IN.
THEY'RE CONTRACTED WITH THE TOWNS FOR SHARE OF.
AND WE DID SOMETHING WITH ARPA MONEY.
I THINK WE HAD ARPA MONEY, WHICH WAS THE COVID, AMERICAN REINVESTMENT FUND MONEY THAT WE HAD TO SPEND.
SO WE USED IT TO DO SOME GENERAL FUND THINGS, I THINK, WHICH MAY HAVE INFLATED THAT BUDGET.
RIGHT, AND MORE MONEY INTO CAPITAL AS WELL.
THAT'S JUST OUR ADOPTED BUDGET.
SO IT ONLY WENT UP LIKE 0.39%, NOT EVEN A PERCENT.
SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO RIGHT SIZE.
WHAT I HAVE US GOING UP THIS YEAR IS ABOUT 4.5%.
SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO RIGHT SIZE AND GO WITH 5% INCREASE.
I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING TO HELP WITH INFLATION AND IT KEEPS US.
AT SOME POINT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP DOING 10 IS ALL I'M GETTING AT.
WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT THIS YEAR, BUT...
SO, IF I COULD OFFER SOME EXPLANATION ON THAT, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR BEING CONSERVATIVE.
BUT, FOR INSTANCE, SO WE JUST BOUGHT A NEW...
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HATE TO COME WITH A FLAT 10% ALL THE TIME.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE MAINTAIN OUR STATIONS, WE PAY FOR ALL THE FUEL, ALL OUR INSURANCES.
IT'S GETTING INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO FUNDRAISE.
EVERYBODY'S DOING A FUNDRAISER.
BINGO CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO WORK BINGO.
WE ARE TRYING TO QUARTERLY FUNDRAISER, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT.
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SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE BIG FUNDRAISER.HERE, ASSIST AND OFFSETTING THIS COST, BUT IT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT.
AND PEOPLE DON'T COME OUT LIKE THEY USED TO.
MY SON HAS FOUR BASEBALL GAMES THIS WEEK.
AND I'M ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE.
PEOPLE THAT THE YOUNGER FOLKS AND EVEN WHEN LOW SET AND STUFF YOU KNOW AND PEOPLE TELL YOU IT'S FOR A COMMUNITY WELL IT'S JUST A COMMUNITY MORE THAN 10 PERCENT REALLY UM UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION BUT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER THAT AND MOVING FORWARD IF THERE IS QUESTIONS PLEASE BRING THEM TO US SO WE CAN YOU KNOW EXPLAIN THEM WE WANNA BE ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU GUYS.
SO YOU CAN BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TAXPAYERS.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THIS PRESTON APPLICATION FOR THE COUPLE ENGINES OR THAT THEY'RE AFTER, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO TRY TO HELP OFFSET THAT IF IT COMES THROUGH, I MEAN, WE'LL SEE.
AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE DOWN THE ROAD IS MAYBE HELPING EVERYBODY APPLY FOR FEDERAL MONEY TO HELP.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT GOOD AT.
I MEAN, TRAMP JUST GOT $4.6 MILLION FOR A FIREHOUSE.
CURRENTLY, DENTON'S FIREHOUSE IS THE LAST UPGRADES WE DID THERE.
AND IF THEY DO COME IN, THEY'RE ONLY STAYING FOR A FEW YEARS.
I THINK, I MEAN, IF THE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE COMES THROUGH AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAP INTO, MAYBE WE CAN HELP WITH THAT AND TAKE THE PRESSURE OFF OF OUR TAX, PROPERTY TAX.
I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY, LOOK, WHAT I'M HEARING IS PEOPLE ARE GETTING KILLED WITH PROPERTY TAXES.
AND THE ROAD SITUATION, I MEAN, MATT KNOWS ABOUT THE DIRT ROAD SITUATION.
I WANT TO TRY TO CHIP AWAY AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
AND IT'S JUST ABOUT, CAN WE HELP, MAYBE WE CAN HELP THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES.
TAP INTO ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE, AND MAYBE THAT ALLEVIATES THE PRESSURE DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON.
WELL, I'VE BEEN, MY NUMBER IS 10%.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, I WON'T BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
I JUST KNOW THAT MANY YEARS AGO, HAVING HAD TO DO FIRE COMPANY BUDGETS, I KNOW THAT THE COST GOES UP, AND I KNOW THAT IT NOT ONLY GOES UP WITH THE COST OF YOU MONEY, BUT IT ALSO GOES UP WITH THE COST OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN AND SEE THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE AND HEAR THE THINGS THAT YOU HEAR.
AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PUT A NUMBER ON THAT.
I WILL CONTINUE TO BE 10%. I GOT YOU, BUT AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO TAKE OVER THE BUDGET.
WELL, THAT'S TRUE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU HAVE TO ALSO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT IF THESE GUYS COME UP HERE SOMEDAY AND HAND US THE KEYS TO THESE TRUCKS, LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET THEN.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET CONCERNS.
I WON'T SCRIMP ON THE FIRE COMPANIES.
AND SO I'M WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH CONGRESSMAN HARRIS'S OFFICE FOR THE FIRE COMPANY FOR THE BUILDING IN GREENSBORO.
I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO DO THAT WITH ANY OF THE FIRE COMPANIES THAT WANT TO BUILD BUILDINGS, AND I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
WE NEED TO TAP INTO ANY FUNDRAISINGS, ANY FEDERAL MONEY WE CAN, STATE MONEY WE CAN.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMEWHERE THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE US START, I'LL CUT OTHER THINGS BEFORE I DO THAT.
COMMISSIONER BURKS? I JUST WANT TO SAY I'D BE IN THE MIDDLE OF BEING YOU TOO, AS ALWAYS.
BUT I JUST DID IT BECAUSE OF THE COMPOUNDING INTEREST AND I FELT THAT SEVEN WAS A GOOD NUMBER TO BE AT.
OF COURSE, BUT I WENT FULL FUNDED ON THE ON THE LOW SIDE, WHICH IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I GET IT, BUT- THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT.
IS ANYBODY GOING TO GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT? I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER BARKS.
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TO 7? YEAH.UNLESS, I MEAN, YOU WANT A FULL FUND TO 10.
I'D SAY WE LEAVE IT ALONE FOR NOW.
I LOST YOUR PHONE NUMBER THE OTHER TIME.
I LOOKED FOR YOURS THE OTHER DAY.
I'LL PUT THE 7% IN ITS PLACEHOLDER, BUT MARK, WE'LL LOOK AT IT.
JUST SO, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST WHAT GETS ADVERTISED.
YEAH, ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE, PLEASE, AGAIN.
IT IS NOT A SLATE, BELIEVE ME.
IT IS NOT A SLATE ON WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
I'M BALANCING THE ROADS, THE DETENTION CENTER, THE SCHOOL, AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS IS ALL I'M TRYING TO DO.
I GET IT, AND I DON'T TAKE IT THAT WAY.
AND AGAIN, WE DO LOOK FORWARD.
I THINK SHOULD BE BUILT A GYM WITH WHAT TO BRING PEOPLE IN AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY AND HOPEFULLY KEYS BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME AND THEN DECREASE AND HOPEFULLY SO AROUND, WE'RE GONNA PAY, THE TAX IS ON THAT, SO WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU.
NEXT LINE'S CORRECTIONS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE IN AGREEMENT THERE.
AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO EMERGENCY.
THAT'S JUST A, WARDEN, THAT'S JUST A, YOU'RE NOT AT THE POSITION, YOU'RE JUST...
DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON ALL OF THOSE.
I DID A 5% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.
THAT'S JUST A FLAT 5% INCREASE.
YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE PROJECTED BUDGET IS SUPPOSED TO GO UP ABOUT 5%.
I MEAN, SO THE OTHER THING IS TO, WE ASK OUR INTERNAL AGENCIES, LIKE, MARK, WOULD YOUR BUDGET GO UP? IT PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN GO UP 5%, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE ASK OUR INTERNAL AGENCIES TO KEEP IT PRETTY TIGHT AND MINIMIZE THE INCREASE.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET BIG INCREASES FROM THE ALLIED AGENCIES, I DON'T KNOW.
GOING TO THE 5%? AND THAT WOULD BE 404-750.
THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS THERE.
$37,500 IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
THEY ASKED FOR AN INCREASE TO $42,500.
COMMISSIONER BARTZ WAS IN THE MIDDLE AGAIN AT $40,000.
KEEPING IT THE SAME? KEEPING IT THE SAME.
THAT'S FEE FOR SERVICE, BASICALLY.
AND THEN WE'RE INTO PUBLIC WORKS NOW.
AND I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ALL WERE IN AGREEMENT.
YEAH, ROBIN REALLY DIDN'T ASK FOR MUCH.
I DON'T THINK YOUR BUDGET DIDN'T GO UP MUCH EITHER.
NEXT ONE IS UPPER SHORE AGING.
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THEY GOT A 20% INCREASE.THAT WAS BECAUSE OF FOOD, I THINK, WAS THE REASON BEHIND FOOD COSTS OR SOMETHING.
I SEE 3% INCREASE COLA AND THEN FOR TWO POSITIONS.
WHAT I DID WAS I JUST GAVE A 5% INCREASE OVER THE LAST BUDGET.
THIS IS HOW I CAME UP WITH 428.95.
SO 3% FOR THE COLA AND THEN AN EXTRA 2% FOR OTHER STUFF, YES.
YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE 420, THE 5% INCREASE? YEAH.
DCS, YOU GUYS ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
THIS IS WHERE WE START TO HAVE DIFFERENCES AGAIN.
WILL HE HAVE COMMISSIONER PORTER WITH $10,000 AND THE OTHER TWO NO FUNDING? SO THAT WOULD BE A NO FUNDING AT THIS POINT UNLESS SOMEBODY CHANGES.
I DON'T THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT IT.
DOING THAT THROUGH SOMETHING THROUGH OVU WOULD POTENTIALLY.
CASA, TWO OUT OF THREE HAVE $5,000 FOR THAT.
YEAH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY FOR CASA.
SO WE'LL GO WITH THE $5,000? YEAH.
BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS, NOTHING.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT COMES IN...
MARRIAGE LICENSE HAS TO GO TO THAT? RIGHT.
MARRIAGE LICENSE REVENUE GOES TO FAMILY VIOLENCE? YES.
I KNEW THERE WAS A FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE HAD TO SPEND IT ON.
BECAUSE THERE'S A CORRELATION THERE.
THE NEXT LINE IS POSITIVE STRIDERS.
I HAVE TWO OUT OF THREE WITH $5,000 FOR THAT.
AND THEN FOR CHANGE, COMMISSIONER PORTER, BUT THE OTHER TWO HAVE NOTHING.
ALL RIGHT, AND BOARD OF EDUCATION, NUMBERS WE HAVE TO GIVE.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING ABOUT ANY CHANGES TO THESE NUMBERS AS OF TODAY.
ARE YOU FEELING PRETTY CONFIDENT WE'RE NOT ON A ROLLER COASTER HERE? IT SEEMS TO BE, BUT IT'S MSDE AND STATE, SO YOU NEVER TRULY KNOW, BUT IT SEEMS A LITTLE MORE.
IT'S BEEN QUIET ON THE MAKO FRONT CONVERSATION.
MAKO IS, YEAH, MAKO HAS BEEN QUIET.
SO I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH EITHER.
AND THEN THE LIBRARY RETIREMENT, WHICH IS NEW, DIRECT STATE THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THEY'VE SHIFTED TO US.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE LIBRARY RETIREMENT DO YOU RECALL? I DO NOT RECALL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY LIKE 10%.
LIKE THEY'RE JUST GETTING THEIR NOSE IN THE TENT, RIGHT? JUST GETTING STARTED.
JUST GETTING THEIR NOSE IN THE TENT.
ALL RIGHT, AND THEN WE'RE DOWN TO CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE.
ANY QUESTIONS WITH CHESAPEAKE COLLEGE? NOT MUCH WE CAN DO.
STUDENT ENROLLMENT MUST BE DOWN.
STUDENT ENROLLMENT WENT DOWN FROM LAST YEAR, SO OUR COST SHARE WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY.
I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER BREEDING, YOU TOOK OUT THE RETIREMENT STATE PART AND HAVING THE LIBRARY COVER THE 4927.
SO INSTEAD OF US GIVING THEM THE FULL ASK FOR THAT, HE JUST BACKED THAT OUT.
THE LIBRARY DID SAY THAT THEY COULD COVER THAT COST IF THEY NEEDED THEM TO.
I DID LOOK THROUGH THEIR BUDGET, THEIR BOOK LINE.
HE'S GOT ROOM INSIDE OF HIS BUDGET WHERE HE CAN COVER THE $5,000 IN RETIREMENT LIABILITY.
THE ONE THING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME WHEN I LOOKED THROUGH HIS BUDGET WAS, SO IN MATERIALS, THE BOOKS, HE'S PROJECTING TO SPEND ABOUT $19,000 THIS YEAR ON BOOKS.
BUT HE'S REQUESTED $28,000, SO THERE'S $10,000 RIGHT THERE.
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I KNOW THE COST KEEPS GOING UP, BUT FOR THE BOOKS AND STUFF, YEAH.BUT I MEAN, THAT $10,000 IN BOOKS.
HIS $25,000 ACTUAL, THEY ONLY SPENT $11,000 ON BOOKS.
BUT I THINK JONAH'S GOT ROOM IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH IT.
ANYBODY WANT TO CHANGE OR WE JUST KEEP THE FULL FUND? I'M NOT GOING TO.
COMMISSIONER BARTZ, YOU WANT TO KEEP FULLY FUNDED OR? UP ON IT.
AND THEN IMAGINATION LIBRARY, $6,000 AGAIN.
AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO RECREATION AND PARKS, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THERE AS WELL.
JAMIE DIDN'T REALLY ASK FOR ANYTHING.
THAT PRETTY MUCH GOES TO SUMMERFEST, RIGHT? FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK.
A GOOD CHUNK OF IT DOES, RIGHT? FOR PERFORMERS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
I THINK THEY HAD STATE FUNDING FOR THAT.
NEXT LINE IS EXTENSION SERVICES.
TWO OUT OF THE THREE HAVE 212-908.
THE OTHER ONE IS FULLY FUNDING.
I JUST, I REMOVED, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PORTER AND I REMOVED THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM.
AND MIDSHOR REGIONAL COUNCIL ON AGREEMENT 15,000, DEBT SERVICES.
WHICH IS REDUCING, SO WE ARE PAYING OFF OUR DEBT.
THAT DROPS A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR.
YEP, NOW WE'RE DOWN INTO INTERGOVERNMENTAL.
MY CONTINGENCY IS GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT WE END UP WITH THE BOTTOM NUMBER.
REAL QUICK, WHILE WE'RE ON THE DEBT SERVICE, THAT'S A NUMBER THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD LOOK AT.
THAT'S $3 MILLION THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LEAVES DOWN.
THERE'S PRINCIPAL IN THAT AS WELL.
BUT A PORTION OF THAT IS INTEREST THAT THE IMPACT HAS NEVER FELT IN THE COUNTY.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WHY.
YOU KNOW, IF I'M COMMITTED, I FEEL LIKE IF I'M COMMITTED TO DOING SOMETHING, IF WE CAN AT ALL, ANY WAY POSSIBLE DO IT, PAY FOR IT AS YOU GO SO THAT THOSE INTEREST DOLLARS DON'T LEAVE.
SO, INTERGOVERNMENTAL, I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON ALL THAT.
CONTINGENCY, I WENT FOR $350 JUST BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF RIGHT SIZED WITH WHAT WE TRADITIONALLY SPEND IN CONTINGENCY.
THAT'S WHY I PENCILED THAT IN.
WHATEVER, WHEREVER WE ARE DOWN HERE IS WHERE.
CONTINGENCY AND CAPITAL IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE BALANCING.
STACY, JUST PUT THAT AT $410,000.
JUST BUMP MINE UP TO $400,000.
THAT'LL PUT ME IN LINE WITH COMMISSIONER PORTER.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE OTHER LINES IN, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THE CAPITAL LINE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.
SO 4H PARK, YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT, JONESTOWN WATER SYSTEM.
AND THEN MARTIN ALLISON BARN, WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER OF $5,000, THE OTHER TWO NO FUNDING, AND HIS HOPE NO FUNDING.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE RIGHT NOW, TOTAL EXPENSES $75,723,107, WHICH LEAVES A LITTLE OVER $8,008,035 CURRENTLY FROM BEING ZERO BALANCE.
DO YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A DEFICIT.
NO, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN SHORTENING THE GAP WITH THE DEFICIT WITH THE MONEY WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IN.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE IT IS NOW.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THAT, TOO, IS AT SOME POINT THAT SYSTEM'S GOING TO NEED SOME UPGRADES AND MAINTENANCE.
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SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING OUT EITHER.WHEN WE GET TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.
SO, THE $8,358,300? $8,358,300.
IF THAT WENT IN AS YOUR CAPITAL NUMBER, THAT WOULD BE...
WOULD BE THE CAPITAL NUMBER? CORRECT.
THAT'S MORE THAN I HAD IN THE BEGINNING.
WE ORIGINALLY PUT IN $9,000,000 AS THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, SO IT'S...
SLIGHTLY UNDER THE ORIGINAL REQUEST.
AND 25, WE WERE, ACTUALS WERE $9,004,000.
SO WE'LL PUT IN THE PLACEHOLDER OF THE 8358.
AND ANYTHING, IF WE GO BACK AND INCREASE ANY OF THE ITEMS. OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH OPERATING AT THIS TIME? I DON'T.
THE NEXT BIG ONE WOULD BE CAPITAL, AND I BELIEVE WE'LL DO THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE HERE RIGHT NOW OR ANYTHING YOU WANT ME TO LOOK INTO ON CAPITAL BEFORE WE GO INTO CAPITAL AT THE NEXT MEETING? WELL.
LET'S RUN THROUGH IT AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
IF WE'VE GOT TIME, MAKE ONE QUICK ROUNDUP.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S MAKE A FIVE-MINUTE READ.
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YEAH, CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER AND WE CAN START TO GO THROUGH THE CAPITAL.JUST FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, JUST SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CAPITAL MONEY COMES FROM, WE HAVE TWO POTS OF MONEY FOR CAPITAL.
THE FIRST LINE IS THE TRANSFER TAX.
SO ANYTIME THERE'S A TRANSFER OF PROPERTY, THERE IS A STATE-COLLECTED TRANSFER TAX RIGHT HERE AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
SO IT GETS ALLOCATED OVER TO THE COUNTIES AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
SO USUALLY EACH YEAR THAT'S ABOUT $850,000.
PART OF THE CAPITAL MONEY, THEN THE OTHER IS THE AMOUNT YOU PUT IN FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET.
ON THE CURRENT CAPITAL SHEET, BEFORE I KNEW, I HAD $8,500,000 AS THE CAPITAL ALLOTMENT WITH THE $850,000 FROM THE CAPITAL RESERVE.
SO $9,350,000 IS WHAT'S ON THE CAPITAL SHEET RIGHT NOW.
WE KNOW THAT'S SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE NUMBER WE JUST CAME UP WITH WITH THE OPERATING BUDGET.
BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A $1,000,000 CUT BASED OFF THE REQUEST THAT CAME IN AT $10.4.
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WOULD BE MORE PLAN REVIEW, WHICH I HAD FUNDING IT RIGHT NOW.PRICE TO HOPEFULLY GET SOME STATE GRANT FUNDS TO DO SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS LIKE FENCE IT IN.
SO PUT $250,000 IN FOR NOW THEN? YEAH.
I THINK OUR PLANS HAD AN OPTION WHERE JUST A PORTION OF IT COULD BE FENCED IN, NOT THE WHOLE.
COMMISSIONER BARTZ, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT TOO? YOU GOT TWO OUT OF THREE.
IT IS A 2023, SO WE'RE PUTTING ABOUT 50,000 A YEAR ON IT.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE LEASED VEHICLES IN THE NOTES.
YOU CAN SEE IT SAYS IT'S A LEASED VEHICLE.
OKAY, SO THAT GETS US OUT OF PAYMENT.
THE LAST YEAR TO THE RADIO REPLACEMENT AND THAT GOES TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES, ALL THEIR RADIOS.
ARE THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON BOARD WITH THAT TOO? THE RADIO? YEAH.
SO WE'VE DONE ALL SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS NEW, DDS IS NEW, ALL INTERNAL.
RADIOS ARE NEW SO THIS WILL BE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE YEAR OF REPLACEMENT AFTER THAT RIGHT IT'S THE BOARD OF ED BOARD OF ED MOBILE COMMAND UNIT, THAT WAS GOING TO COME OUT OF GRANT FUNDING, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
STATE, THAT'LL COME OUT OF LATPP MONEY.
HOW WE CHANGED HOW WE WERE DISTRIBUTING THAT GRANT MONEY.
THIS WOULD BE A JOINT BETWEEN US AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, MAYBE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THE GOAL WOULD BE TO TAKE THE GRANT MONEY.
WE'RE NOT BUYING A NEW VEHICLE.
WE ACTUALLY HAD TALK TO KENT COUNTY DELAWARE ABOUT THEIR OLDER UNIT, BUT THEY ENDED UP SIGNING TO THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING THAT GRANT MONEY.
AND LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE DEPLOYED ON STANDOFFS OR, YOU KNOW, SUMMERFEST, BIG EVENTS WHERE WE CAN EITHER HAVE A JOINT COMMAND WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO PREVIOUSLY WE WERE SPLITTING THIS HOMELAND SECURITY MONEY UP.
I GUESS FEDERAL FUNDS WE RECEIVED.
WE WERE SPLITTING IT UP AMONGST THE VARIOUS TOWNS.
DEPARTMENTS RIGHT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT GOT A FORTUNE ON IT SO INSTEAD OF DOING THAT WE'RE KEEPING IT ALL TOGETHER AND DOING SOMETHING MAJOR PROJECTS YEAH YEP YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE IF YOU GET THIS YOU'RE KEEPING THE TRAILER THAT YOU HAVE WE WOULD NOT PROBABLY KEEP THE TRAIL WE HAVE WE WOULD NOT KEEP THE TRAIL YET THE PROBLEM WITH THE TRAILER IS UM IT'S NOT A UNIT WHERE SOMEBODY CAN GET IT AND TAKE IT TO A SCENE YOU HAVE TO PULL IT AND THERE'S SOME SETUP INVOLVED IN THE TRAILER.
SO WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT KEEP THAT TRAILER.
HOW LONG YOU HAD THE TRAILER? THEY BOUGHT THAT BEFORE I WAS HERE.
SO I THINK THAT CAME FROM COVID MONEY, I'M GONNA SAY.
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THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT, YES.AND IT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANTED, THEY SETTLED FOR THAT, WHICH IS PROBABLY PART OF THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TALKED TO SHERIFF.
I THINK THE OTHER THING, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY, WELL, THIS GUY HERE, BACKUP 911 CENTER.
IT COULD SERVE AS A BACKUP 911 IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AT OUR CURRENT CENTER.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE, AND LOOK, NOT TOO MANY COUNTIES HAVE.
NOT EVEN MY OWN COUNTY IN SUSSEX, WE DON'T HAVE A BACKUP 911 CENTER BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL IT'S NOT COST-EFFECTIVE BUT YOU GOT TO HAVE A WAY OF SOMETHING WE'RE TO BUST A PIPE OVER THERE AND HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE CENTER FOR MONTHS HOW ARE WE GOING TO OPERATE AT 911.
WE CAN GO TO TALBOT THEY CAN TAKE OUR PHONE CALLS BUT WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS ALERT VOLUNTEERS SO WE HAVE NO PAGING CAPABILITIES OR SIREN CAPABILITIES SO THOSE THINGS WE WANT WE DON'T HAVE SO WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A WAY TO FIGURE THAT OUT AT LEAST.
BEFORE WE HAVE THAT WHAT IF MOMENT.
RIGHT, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN.
YEAH, MCKENNEDY WOULD BE, SHE WOULD BE ASKING US WHY WE HAVE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
YEAH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO HAVE IN A BACKUP CENTER AND NOT TOO MANY AGENCIES HAVE A CENTER.
NOW IF WE WERE TO EVER, I WON'T SEE IT, BUT IF DOWN THE ROAD THEY END UP RELOCATING 911 CENTERS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
MAYBE YOU KEEP A COUPLE CONSOLES IN THE OLD CENTER AT HAPS, BUT TO GO AND BUILD A BACKUP CENTER, NOT CLOSE ENOUGH.
CAN THIS MONEY ROLL OVER IF YOU DON'T FUND SOMETHING FOR 70 BOND? IT CAN.
THERE IS A PERIOD OF THE MONEY WE'LL BE ABLE TO ROLL OVER.
WE CAN USE SEVERAL GRANT YEARS, BUT THERE IS AN END TO IT EVENTUALLY.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT GENERAL FUND MONEY, IT'S GRANT MONEY FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A FIGURE BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU CAN FIND.
I MEAN, YOU CAN USE OUR STRUCTURE.
THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WHILE I GOT THE MOMENT, AND STACY CAN TELL YOU, WE ARE RUNNING INTO SOME ROADBLOCKS WITH THE 911 BOARD.
GETTING REIMBURSEMENT TO THE COUNTY, WHICH I TOLD YOU IN MY BUDGET PRESENTATION, I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS GOING TO KELLY. YOU KNOW, KELLY IS VERY, VERY...
STRUCTURED AND FOR THE LAST SIX TO SEVEN YEARS SHE HAS SENT IN REIMBURSEMENTS FOR SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE USE AT THE 911 CENTER.
SO SHE SENT THE STUFF IN AND NOW THE BOARD'S INTERPRETATION IS THEY WON'T PAY FOR CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR.
WE HAVE TO GET PRE-APPROVAL, BUT IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO SUBMIT THE RECEIPTS, YOU KNOW, FOR LIKE PHONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO RUN THE CENTER, THE NECESSITIES.
WE HAD, DID, STACY WAS ON A MEETING LAST WEEK.
WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE 911 BOARD.
TO US BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL WE CAN DO TO GET AHEAD OF IT.
IT'S GOING TO CHANGE SOME PRACTICES AND HOW WE ASK FOR THE MONEY BACK.
THIS BOARD, WHAT I GOT OUT OF IT, THIS BOARD INTERPRETS THAT THEY WON'T PAY FOR ANY CONTRACTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED.
SO IF WE ARE IN A CONTRACT ALREADY AND WE PUT IN FOR REIMBURSEMENT, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE WE GET TO THE CONTRACT.
SO THAT'S A LOT OF WORK ON KELLY'S PART AND FINANCE BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT ALL THESE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS FOR PHONE SERVICES, LANGUAGE LINE, ALL THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE WE GET AHEAD OF IT SO THE COUNTY GETS THE MONEY BACK.
SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE HAD THEY NOTIFIED US THAT AND THEN WHAT REALLY KIND OF REALLY IRRITATED ME IS THREE, THEY'LL HAVE THREE NEW BOARD MEMBERS COME JULY 1 AND SHE SAID WELL THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
WHY ARE WE CHANGING NOW? WHO'S THE 911? YES.
AND THEY ADMINISTER THE FUNDS THROUGH TAXES FOR 911.
THE FEE ON YOUR PHONE AND THE BILL REVENUE COMES FROM.
WHAT THE STATE COLLECTS IT AND THEN REIMBURSES.
WHAT'S THE STATE'S ROLE IN THE 911 SYSTEM? SO IT'S ACTUALLY UNDER THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT NOW.
IT'S NOW BEEN FOLDED UNDER THEM.
BUT I MEAN, BUT IT'S ALL RUN LOCALLY.
THERE'S A BOARD OF I THINK NINE OR 11 PEOPLE.
IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE EXPENSES ON THE STATE OR IS IT ON THE COUNTY? THE VAST MAJORITY, AS LONG AS IT'S.
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THEY WON'T PAY FOR RADIOS AND THOSE THINGS, BUT THEY'LL PAY FOR THINGS TO RUN THE 911 CENTER, CAD.I THINK THEY JUST CHANGED UP THE WAY THEY REFUND US NOW, AND SO THEY HAVE TIERS.
TIER 1 IS LIKE IMPORTANT STUFF THAT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO RUN THE 911.
SO TIER 3 MIGHT BE LIKE, DANNY TOLD STACY, I DON'T THINK LIKE FURNITURE UPGRADES AND THOSE CONSOLES THAT WE JUST HAD.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A THING IN THE PAST.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO FUND THOSE THINGS.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO FALL BACK ON THE COUNTY.
WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING TO GO THAT WAS GOING TO THAT? ARE THEY RAIDING IT? THEY ARE TRYING TO RAID SOME OF THE MONEY OUT OF IT.
THEY ARE TRYING TO RAID SOME OF THE MONEY OUT OF IT.
WHO IS THIS GUY? WELL, THE GOVERNOR WOULD BE THE ONE.
THE CHAIRMAN IS SCOTT HOBBS FROM QUEEN ANNE'S COUNTY.
WELL, WHO MAKES THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY GOES? THE BOARD.
WHO'S OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD? WE DON'T HAVE ONE.
IT IS SOMETHING TO KEEP ON YOUR RADAR.
HOW MANY MEMBERS IS THERE? I THINK THERE'S NINE.
NINE OR 11 MEMBERS AND WE DON'T HAVE ONE? NO, IT'S...
IT'S A STATEWIDE 911 BOARD AND THEY MEET MONTHLY AND THEN LIKE YOU SAID.
THERE'S SOMEONE THAT, THERE'S, MAKE UP DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO YOU GOTTA HAVE A, IT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING.
I MEAN, LOOK, I TAKE IT SERIOUS.
MOST PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE COUNTY OR PG COUNTY, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ABSORB THAT.
CAN WE GET A LIST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THAT BOARD? I WILL.
I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S SOMEBODY FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY ON THERE.
IT'S JUST GOING TO CAUSE US TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE'LL GET BACK AHEAD OF IT.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN FOR THE CONTRACT.
WE'LL HAVE TO WATCH IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GETTING RAIDED EITHER.
IF THEY'RE STARTING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT IN REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S BEING USED FOR SOCIAL PROGRAMS OR SOMETHING ELSE.
I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING WATCHED NOW BECAUSE WE CAME UP WITH THIS WITH A 911 AUDIT.
THEY HAD A QUESTION ON OUR 911 AUDIT BECAUSE THERE WAS, ACCORDING TO THEM, A FINDING LISTED, BUT IT'S HOW ALL COUNTIES BRAID THE 911 MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT'S SEPARATED OUT.
THEY WERE LIKE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A FINDING ON HERE, YOU NEED TO CHANGE THIS AND FIX THIS.
AND WE SAID, IT'S THE SAME FINDING THAT'S BEEN ON THERE FOR THE PAST 8 TO 10 YEARS, NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE.
WE SAID, WHO WAS LOOKING AT THE AUDITS THEN? THEY SAID NOBODY.
SO NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT THINGS, AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S COME UP NOW WITH THE 911 BOARD, HAVING TO GET PERMISSION AHEAD OF TIME, IS NOW THEY'RE BEING LOOKED INTO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS MONEY? IN DEFENSE OF THE 911 BOARD, LIKE BALTIMORE CITY, I'LL USE BALTIMORE CITY.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY SOFTWARE PROGRAMS AND THERE'S SO MUCH REDUNDANCY.
THINGS THAT YOU DO IN THE CENTER.
SO IF YOU HAVE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS, THAT'S A LOT.
BUT THEY DIDN'T CLEARLY TELL US EITHER, HEY, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET PRIOR APPROVAL BEFORE WE'LL REIMBURSE FOR ANY INVOICES.
IT WAS JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE SUBMITTED, OH WAIT, THIS IS THE POLICY NOW.
LIKE, YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE COME TO ALL THE DIRECTORS OF PSAPS TO SAY, MOVING FORWARD, AS OF THIS DATE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO REIMBURSE YOU.
IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BEFOREHAND, BUT THERE WAS NEVER ANY DIRECT PUT OUT.
THERE'S PLENTY TO BE TAKEN FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I TOLD DR.
I SAID, LOOK, I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
YOU KNOW, THE STATE'S BROKE, AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU CAN PULL THE MONEY FROM ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, PUT IT BACK ON THE COUNTIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR MY COUNTY, THAT'S A BURDEN.
YEAH, BUT I'M WORKING WITH KELLY AND MARK, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET AS MUCH.
REIMBURSED AS WE CAN, AND WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR FY27, SO WE'LL BE READY TO GO WITH OUR REQUEST IN APRIL FOR FY27 SO THAT WE CAN GET THINGS FUNDED.
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DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR NOTES PRIORITY.THERE'S A LIST HERE IN THE NOTES.
YEAH, SO THEY HAVE PRIORITY 1 THROUGH 7.
IS TO REPLACE THE COMPACTOR AT THE HAPS BUILDING.
WHAT'S IT, YOU KEEP, I MEAN FOR $55,000 YOU PUT A ROLL OFF CAN THERE.
YEAH, BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE ISSUE WITH TRASH GOING EVERYWHERE.
I THINK, I MEAN, I'M NOT, FOR IT, I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO DO THE HVAC UNITS DOWN TO PRESTON TOWER.
I KNOW THAT'S SEVEN, BUT I STILL WOULD DO THAT.
REMODEL THE BATHROOMS IN THE COURTHOUSE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND 250 ON THE BACK THERE.
WE NEED TO HAVE MORE, THE PARKING LOT.
SO NOW ON THE COURTHOUSE STUFF.
WE GOT SOME DPW, PARTY FIVE AND SIX DPW.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FENCE THERE ROBIN? IT'S GETTING PRETTY ROUGH.
THE FENCE AROUND YOUR THE BUILDING? YEAH.
DO YOU JUST WANT MORE TIME TO LOOK? NO ON THE FLOOR AND NO ON THE BATHROOM SO THAT LEAVES THE DCT STILL ROOFED.
COATING YEAH THE STEEL ROOF 160,000 WHAT'S COOL I GUESS IT'S JUST LEAKING YOU GOT SOME LEADS YEAH I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH SAMANTHA PARKER FROM THE MARVA COMMUNITY SERVICES LAST WEEK SHE MENTIONED THERE MIGHT BE SOME MTA FUNDING THAT COULD ASSIST WITH THAT SO SHE SAID DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY THE ROOF IS THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR NEED TO BE REPLACED, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME MTA FUNDS TO MAYBE ASSIST WITH THAT.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S OUR BUILDING, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU DON'T EVEN MEAN, I'VE ALWAYS GOT THE IMPRESSION THEY DON'T EVEN WANT YOU IN THERE.
WELL, I'M OKAY WITH PRIORITY SIX.
SO YOU SAID 1, 5, AND 6 YOU'RE GOOD WITH? 01, 5, 6, 7.
YEAH, ALL RIGHT, JUST START OFF WITH ANYWAY, WE CAN COME BACK AND REVISIT IT.
APARTMENT ASPHALT IS GOING THROUGH THE ROOF NOW TOO WITH FUEL GOING UP, I THINK.
IT'S SOMETHING MAJOR THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO UNTIL FUEL PRICES GET FROM THE WINTER OR PLOW.
I MEAN, I'M DEFINITELY OKAY WITH THE BRIDGES.
AND JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, TOO, IN OUR CAPITAL RESERVE BALANCE, WE HAVE $3,987,199 THAT CAN BE USED ONLY
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FOR ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.AND WE ALSO CURRENTLY HAVE THE $528,292 FOR DESIGN FOR ENGINEERING AND FUTURE BRIDGES CURRENTLY IN THE FUND TOO.
I THINK WE PULLED IT OUT OF THAT.
AND IT WAS DEDICATED FOR THAT.
WHAT'S THE FUNDING SOURCE? THE CAPITAL RESERVE HAS TO GO TOWARDS ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO I WAS THINKING PULL IT OUT OF THERE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING 100% FUNDING ON A LOT.
SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAP INTO THAT.
THROUGH THIS, I WOULD PULL IT OUT OF THE RESERVE.
AND I WAS THINKING CUT, MAYBE CUT RESURFACING DOWN TO A MILLION, AND MAYBE THE ROAD PATCHING DOWN TO A MILLION.
AND THAT'S IF FUEL DOESN'T, I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND ADD TO IT DOWN THE ROAD TOO.
SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE 2 MILLION OUT OF THE RESERVE, CAPITAL RESERVE, RIGHT? NO, I WAS GONNA- WE'RE JUST GONNA LEAVE THAT THERE? YEAH, I WAS GONNA PULL IT OUT OF GENERAL FUNDS.
I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE, OKAY.
THE ALLOCATION, YEAH, JUST REDUCE BOTH OF THOSE DOWN TO A MILLION.
AND THEN THE DESIGN, ENGINEERING OF FUTURE BRIDGES, PULL THAT OUT OF THE CAPITAL RESERVE.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR THAT? COMMISSIONER PORTER? I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THAT.
HERE'S THE PRIORITIES ON THE NEXT SHEET.
YEAH, I HAD ONE OF THE DUMP TRUCKS SHEET.
WELL, I HAD ONE OF THE DUMP TRUCKS, THE LIFT, THE PLOWS, THAT WAS IT.
I HAD THOSE THREE, FOR STARTING ANYWAY.
THEY HAD ANOTHER REQUEST FOR A 10-WHEEL DUMP, A RUBBER TIRE LOADER.
LOWBOY TRAILER AND TRACTOR WITH FLAILS.
JUST WANT TO START WITH THOSE THREE AND THEN WE CAN GO OVER IT AGAIN NEXT WEEK.
I'LL DEFER TO YOUR EXPERTISE ON THAT AREA.
DO WE NEED MORE TRAILERS OR MORE TRACTORS, ROBIN? DO YOU HAVE POSITIONS THAT COULD RUN THEM? I KNOW THE BIG PROBLEM IS THEY'VE BEEN TORE UP, RIGHT? A LOT OF EMISSIONS ISSUES AND PROBLEMS WITH THE NEW ONES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN.
YEAH, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, I THINK JUST THAT LITTLE WAR WAS ALWAYS THE GOAL.
ABOUT A SIX-DAY WEEK TIMEFRAME.
WELL, YOU HAVE IT AS PRIORITY SEVEN.
WE DID THE FIRST THREE AND THEN DID THAT TRACTOR TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THE MOWING.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I DO.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO ALWAYS HAVE BREAKDOWN.
WHEN YOU'RE PUSHING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BREAKDOWN.
THEY'RE PUTTING THE JOHN DEERE TRACTOR.
BECAUSE IT HAS A ROAD SIGN FOR...
WHAT DO YOU NEED A LANDSCAPE TRAILER FOR?
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ROB? THEY USED TO HAVE ONE.I'M GOOD WITH THE TRACTOR AND THE LANDSCAPE TRAILER.
THE SPREADERS? IS THAT JUST AN ADDITIONAL SPREADER? YEAH.
I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT THESE SLIDE-IN SPREADERS JUST BECAUSE THEY RUST THE TRUCKS OUT SO BAD.
BUT, AND IT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THOSE FRAMES.
THAT'S A LOT OF WEIGHT IN THE BACK.
WHICH ONE WOULD THAT FOR NOW? THE FIRST TWO RIGHT NOW.
SO JUST PUT THE FIRST TWO, SEE WHERE THAT GETS US.
I WAS GONNA BE REPLACING THE PICKUP WITH 200,000 FOR JAMIE, THE PROGRAM OPEN SPACE MATCH AND THE FIELD DRAG.
YOU GUYS OKAY? YOU GUYS OKAY? I'M FINE.
LARRY NEEDS SOMETHING TO DO WHEN HE'S NOT GOLFING.
YEAH, 4-H, I DIDN'T HAVE EITHER ONE OF THE TWO AT THE 4-H PARK.
I MEAN, I'M NO ON THE GENERATOR RIGHT NOW CUZ OF THE LOCKER THING, BUT THE ROOF, I MEAN, ARE THEY GONNA USE THE, CAN THEY USE THE WILLIAMS FUND, OR IS THAT THEIR PLANS? THEY SHOULD, THE WILLIAMS FUND SHOULD BE USED FOR THAT.
WE'D BE A NO ON THAT AND THEN JUST ASK THEM TO RESPOND.
IF THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN COME BACK AND ASK US OR EXPLAIN TO US WHY.
HUMANE SOCIETY, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO THERE? I'M OKAY WITH THE WAREHOUSE UPDATE.
GOOD WITH THAT? NO ON THE CLINIC.
ON THE MOBILE WELL I WOULD HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT I MEAN I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IT'S IT'S I WANT MORE INFORMATION ON WHO'S GOING TO DRIVE IT AND WHO'S GOING TO STAMP IT OKAY I WILL REACH OUT TO THEM AND GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU UH NEW LOCKER MY MIDDLE SCHOOL LOCAL SHERIFF FOR FY 27 I'M GOOD WITH THAT UM AND THEN STACY HAS A SPOT WHERE WE CAN DEDICATE MONEY FOR THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION ON HERE.
SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT BLANK, SEE HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT AT THE END.
DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, I'M GOOD WITH REPLACING ALL THREE SERVERS.
I ASSUME YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THE SERVERS.
I MEAN, THEY ALL THREE GOT A LOT OF MILES ON THEM.
AND THEY DID CHANGE THESE FROM THE TAHOE'S DOWN TO THE DURANGO'S, SO THAT LOWERED THE COST.
INITIALLY, THE COST WAS OVER, I THINK, ABOUT $100,000.
GO WITH ALL THREE? GO WITH ALL THREE? YEAH.
WHAT'S THAT LEAVE US WITH? LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW, 2.7 MILLION.
WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT? I'M CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW I THINK I PUT EVERYTHING UNDER BREEDINGS AND GIVE ME TIME TO ADD IT TO THE OTHER ONES YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIX POINT FIVE MILLION IN EXPENSES RIGHT NOW SO IT LEAVES YOU TO A LITTLE OVER 2.7 CORRECT AND I CAN PROJECTED TO THE 8.7.
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YEAH, SO THAT'S FIRST RUN AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH IT AGAIN NEXT TUESDAY.AND I'LL CLEAN THIS UP WITH ALL OF YOUR NUMBERS IN HERE AND EMAIL IT OUT TO YOU ALL.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR BUDGET UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
SO THAT'S OUR CONTINGENCY NUMBER RIGHT NOW FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET IS.
IT'S AT 400 000 RIGHT CORRECT THAT'S THE NUMBER WE PUT INTO ITS PLACEHOLDER AND I BELIEVE ON AVERAGE SO WE'VE GOT SOME ROOM OKAY UH 2026 LEGISLATIVE BILL UH YEAH I'LL BE QUICK ON THIS UM TRACKING THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT BILL.
IT IS IN ITS THIRD READING, PAST THIRD READING.
CROSSOVER DAY, I THINK, WAS YESTERDAY.
CRYSTAL, I WANTED TO, IF YOU CAN TRACK, I THINK THIS IS PERMITTING DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS.
HAVE YOU HEARD ANY MORE ABOUT THAT? I'M HOPING IT'S DIED.
OKAY, SO THE VOTERS RIGHT THERE, AND IT'S STILL MOVING.
THE CAROLINE DOG REGULATION, THE TRAVIS BILL, THAT IS, LOOKS LIKE IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
EVERYBODY THAT OWNS A DOG AND HAS A LICENSE RAISES THEIR HAND.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW I'M SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE.
STATE LAW REQUIRES WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ISSUING A DOG LICENSE FOR EVERY DOG IN THE COUNTY.
THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BILL LOOKS LIKE IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THE PHASE-OUT OF THE LEAD AND LEAD.
NO, THAT ONE, PHASE-OUT OF LEAD AND LEAD-BASED.
THEY BAN LEAD BULLETS FOR DEER HUNTING.
BUT THERE'S ALSO ONE THAT IS THE HUNTING TIMES.
THEY WANT TO EXTEND THOSE, THE HUNTING TIMES FOR CROP DAMAGE, TRYING TO CONTROL.
BUT I GOT A MESSAGE YESTERDAY FROM KAYLEE THAT SAID THAT SOME OF THE WILDLIFE, WATERFOWL PEOPLE ARE OPPOSING THIS BILL.
THEY THINK IT'LL PUT TOO MUCH PRESSURE ON THE WATERFOWL TO HUNT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
SO IT WAS A SUNDAY HUNTING BILL, I THINK, RIGHT? YEAH.
TO ALLOW DEER HUNTING, ALL HUNTING, ON SUNDAYS.
AND THEY HAD PROBLEMS. THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD PUT TOO MUCH PRESSURE ON THE WATERFOWL.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU HOW MANY DAYS OF HUNTING YOU CAN HAVE.
WHETHER IT'S CONTIGUOUS OR WHETHER YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE SUNDAYS OFF, YOU GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF DAYS.
THEY JUST PACK, IF YOU ALLOWED SUNDAY HUNTING, IT WOULD SHORTEN THE SEASON, BASICALLY.
BUT BACK TO THE LEAD AMMUNITION, I THINK IT'S EVERYTHING.
YOU CAN'T SQUIRREL HUNT, YOU CAN'T RABBIT HUNT, YOU CAN'T USE LEAD FOR ANYTHING.
IT'S BANNED AND IT'S A $725 FINE FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE.
BUT YET THEY WANTED TO PASS A LAW IF YOU PASS IT.
PASS THE SCHOOL BUS, LARRY, SOMETHING LAST YEAR.
CATALINA HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS LETTER.
I'LL HAVE A BETTER REVIEW NEXT WEEK BECAUSE WE'LL BE BACK ON OUR BILLS ONCE THEY'VE CHANGED OVER.
I WANT TO GET THE STATUS OF THESE BILLS.
IT'S HARD TO FIGURE BECAUSE NOW THEY CRAWL.
SO THEY'VE HAD THEIR HEARINGS IN ONE CHAMBER.
I THINK THEN THEY HAVE HEARINGS.
YEAH, YEAH, BUT I THINK THAT LET AMMUNITION ONE PASS.
IT'S CONFUSING TO TRACK THEM BUT I'LL DO.
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THAT'LL MAKE THAT WHATEVER IS LAID NOW GO TO THE ROOF.I WAS WONDERING- PEOPLE BE HOARDING IT.
YEAH, I REMEMBER, AND THE SHERIFF IS NOT HERE, SO I'LL HOLD THAT QUESTION.
BUT WHEN WE HAD OUR SHOOTING RANGE OUT HERE, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL KINDS OF- LEAD REMEDIATION.
LEAD REMEDIATION BECAUSE OF THE BULLET.
OKAY, THAT'S IT FOR ME ON THAT ONE.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS IN MORE DETAIL WITH BRUCE AND STEVE.
APPROVAL OF THE FY27 OPIOID FUND APPLICATIONS.
I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GIVING 241 TO THE MAT PROGRAM.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING.
IS THAT WHAT THE INTENTION IS? DOWN TO THE BOTTOM IT SAYS 241 GOES TO THE MAC PROGRAM.
STACEY, HOW MUCH IS IN THAT FUND RIGHT NOW? HOW MUCH HAVE WE COLLECTED FROM THE STATE? 471.
IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS? NO, THOSE WERE THE APPLICATION REQUEST AMOUNT IN THERE FOR THE OPIOID FUNDS.
YEAH, WE'VE RECEIVED, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS, THE TAG FUNDS AND THEN THE LOCAL SETTLEMENT FUNDS.
SO WE'VE RECEIVED ABOUT $400,000 IN THE LOCAL SETTLEMENT FUNDS AND JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS OR SO RIGHT NOW IN THE TAG FUNDS.
AND WE'LL RECEIVE THIS MONEY OUT THROUGH 2035 OR SO IN DIFFERENT AMOUNTS EACH YEAR.
WE STARTED RECEIVING IT IN FY23.
WE'VE CURRENTLY JUST SPENT A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR OF THE LOCAL SETTLEMENT FUNDS FOR THE MAP PROGRAM IN THE DETENTION CENTER FOR SOME OF THE DRUGS THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S MAP PROGRAM.
AND THEN THIS WAS THE FIRST ROUND OF THE GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR THE OPIOID FUNDS FOR FY27.
AND ORIGINALLY WE SAID WE'D PUT OUT ABOUT $250,000, UP TO $250,000 IN THE FY27 GRANT ROUND.
SO WE HAD THE APPLICATIONS GO OUT, ANNOUNCED AT THE END OF DECEMBER, 1ST OF JANUARY, AND THEY HAD UNTIL FEBRUARY TO TURN THEM IN.
WE RECEIVED EIGHT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE LISTED ON YOUR PAPER.
I THINK A FEW OF THESE PROGRAMS ALREADY RECEIVING.
THERE ARE GRANT FUND PROGRAMS, LIKE THE PROBLEM SOLVING BOARD IS TECHNICALLY A GRANT PROGRAM THROUGH THE STATE, YES.
SO IF THE COURT SYSTEM RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE STATE, THEY WOULD NOT NEED THIS OPIOID MONEY? CORRECT.
SHE'S COVERING LIKE FOR THE PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST.
SHE'S APPLYING FOR A GOCCP GRANT TO COVER.
WHAT SHE'S LOSING IN THE BGA GRANT THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THAT GRANT'S GOING AWAY, BUT THEN THE OPIOID WAS THE BACKUP TO THE GOCCP GRANT IF THEY DIDN'T GET THAT.
SO YES, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT SHE WOULD NOT NEED THE $60,000 FOR THE PEER SPECIALIST.
AND WE DID STATE THAT THE OPIOID FUNDS ARE REIMBURSABLE.
THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING FUNDS UP FRONT.
WE'D HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY'VE STATED WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR, AND THEY'D HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL THE EVIDENCE.
AND DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT THEY SPENT THE MONEY ON, THAT IT WAS IN LINE WITH THE OPIOID PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND STANDARDS BEFORE THEY WOULD BE REIMBURSED ANY OF THE MONEY IF THEY RECEIVED THE GRANT FUNDS.
WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS TO UTILIZE PRIMARILY...
IT HAD TO BE USED FOR CAROLINE COUNTY RESIDENTS ONLY.
WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE CHART, THEY GAVE YOU...
CAROLINE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THEN IN JOINING.
IN TOTAL, SO I WAS KIND OF CONCENTRATING ON THE ONE, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST AMOUNT OF USERS WAS CAROLINA COUNTY.
RIGHT, IMPACT HERE IN THE COUNTY.
AND IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CAROLINA COUNTY RESIDENTS.
YOU SEE THE SALVATION ARMY, 01,400 FROM CAROLINA, 10,000.
WELL, I MEAN, BUT GRAY STREET DON'T EVEN HAVE A, DO THEY EVEN HAVE AN OFFICE HERE? THEY DO.
THEY HAVE ONE IN DENTON ON MAIN STREET, YES.
WHEN DID THEY PUT THAT? THEY'VE BEEN RENTING THAT SPACE, I THINK, FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS OR MORE.
SO WHY DOES THE PROBLEM SOLVING COURT, I KNOW, DO THEY NEED TO HIRE? GRAY STREET CURRENTLY IS
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CONTRACTED WITH PROBLEM SOLVING COURT TO PROVIDE 40 HOURS A WEEK.SO YOU'RE GIVING PROBLEM SOLVING COURT AND GRAY STREET BOTH? CORRECT, BECAUSE GRAY STREET IS TRYING TO HAVE PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS OUTSIDE OF PROBLEM SOLVING COURT TO BE ABLE TO SERVE OTHER CAROLINA COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT INVOLVED IN PROBLEM SOLVING COURT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEIR REQUEST IS FOR, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE PEER SPECIALISTS WORKING OUTSIDE OF PROBLEM SOLVING COURT IN CAROLINA COUNTY ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH WE GIVE THEM, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. OR I THINK PREGNANT WOMEN THAT HAVE OPIOID PROBLEMS AND DOING SOME CLASSES FOR THEM.
THERE WAS ALSO SOME OTHER CLASSES THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT FOR OTHER PEOPLE WITH NUTRITION AND SOME OTHER WAYS OF MITIGATING OPIOID USE.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SAYING WE'RE LIKE I'M FINE WITH THE MITCHELL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.
I'M FINE WITH THE PROBLEM SOLVING.
PROBLEM SOLVING CURRENTLY HAS A GRANT TO COVER IT.
RIGHT, THE PAID GRANT, WHICH THEY'RE REAPPLYING FOR AGAIN THIS YEAR, WOULD COVER THE PEER SPECIALIST IF THEY RECEIVE IT THROUGH THE GOCCP OFFICE.
IF THEY RECEIVE THAT, THEN THEY WOULD USE THAT FUND.
WE WOULD NOT GIVE THEM THE OPIOID FUNDS FOR THE PEER SPECIALIST.
GRAY STREET IS SEPARATE FROM PROBLEM SOLVING.
ARE YOU OKAY GIVING THEM FOR PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS IN CAROLINA COUNTY OUTSIDE OF PROBLEM SOLVING COURT? I'VE HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT WHAT THEY DO.
THEY DO HAVE, I THINK THEY DO A LOT.
YOU DID TELL ME THAT SOMEBODY ELSE TOLD YOU.
WE COULD ALSO HAVE ANY OF THEM COME IN AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THEIR PROGRAMS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
I MEAN, THIS IS FOR FY27 FUNDING.
WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH AARON'S PLACE.
YES, IF WE CUT THEIR FUNDING DOWN TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WE CAN HAVE THEM COME IN AND TALK.
WHAT WAS BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS? I KNOW GRAY STREET WAS THE PEER SPECIALIST, BUT I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT THEY WERE PATIENT.
TAKE THEM TO COUNSELING THAT'S WHAT THE THIS MISS BOWERY LADY IS GOING TO DO TOO AND IT'S GOT TO BE USED JUST TO CLARIFY AS WELL THESE OPIOID RESTITUTION FUNDS ARE LAWSUIT SETTLEMENTS FROM THE MAJOR PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES AND AS A PART OF THAT SETTLEMENT IT HAS TO BE USED FOR OPIOID MEDICATION RIGHT EDUCATION PREVENTION AND IT SPECIFICALLY CAN'T BE USED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES CORRECT, YEAH.
IT HAS TO MEET ONE OF THE CATEGORIES ON THE NATIONAL STANDARD, THE EXHIBIT E.
DID YOU SEE THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET IN YOUR BRIEFING? BECAUSE IT HAS THE DETAILS OF THE...
ALRIGHT, SO I'M GOOD WITH AWARDING THE FIRST...WHAT'S IN BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS? THAT'S WHAT I'M...I'M PULLING THEIR APPLICATION NOW BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO READ ON THAT DOCUMENT.
WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? YOU GUYS GO WITH AWARDING THE FIRST FOUR AND THEN ASKING BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS AND AARON'S PLACE TO COME IN AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO.
DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY ELSE YOU WANNA PULL IN? WELL, I MEAN, THIS LADY HERE, KATHY BARRY, I MEAN, SHE'S IN CAROLINE COUNTY TOO.
I MEAN, SHE'S NOT GETTING ANYTHING.
DO YOU WANT HER TO COME IN TOO THEN? SURE.
SO JUST CLARIFY, GRAY STREET, MIDSHOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, PROBLEM SOLVING COURT, AND RECREATION AND PARKS, YOU'LL AWARD FUNDING TO, CORRECT? I MEAN, AARON'S PLACE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE IT.
THEY'RE NOT PROGRAMS THAT ARE EVEN SET INTO PLACE YET, RIGHT? THEY WOULD BE, I THINK, NEW EXPANDED PROGRAMS WITH OPA MONEY.
WHICH IS GOING TO REQUIRE REPORTING AND TRACKING AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO THEN YOU WANT AARON'S PLACE, BIG BROTHER, MIDSHORE RESTORING, HOPE AND WOMEN TO COME IN.
DO YOU WANT THE SALVATION ARMY TO COME IN OR NO? I'M OKAY WITH THE SALVATION ARMY NOT COMING.
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I DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR CORPORATE STRUCTURE, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.I THINK THE MIDSHORE RESTORING, 60,000 PEOPLE.
RIGHT, THEY WANTED A VAN TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE.
WILL THAT GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO TAKE IT OFF OF THIS? WE CAN ADD IT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE AGREEMENTS AND EVERYTHING THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.
SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'LL GO UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
THE REAPPOINTMENT OF THE ADVISORY BOARD, SUZANNE WAS HERE AND SHE HAD TO LEAVE SO SHE WANTED TO INTRODUCE HERSELF BUT SHE WAS HERE.
YOU'RE ON THAT BOARD AS WELL RIGHT? YOU'RE THE COMMISSIONER MEMBER? YES.
IS THAT YOU? WE'RE REAPPOINTED? YEAH.
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENERGY MODERNIZATION THING, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
IS THAT THE $171,000? CORRECT.
WHAT IS THAT FOR? WHAT IS THAT MONEY DESIGNATED FOR? SO THE PROJECT WE SUBMITTED FOR THAT WAS FOR POSSIBLY NEW WINDOWS AT THE HABS BUILDING AND ASSISTANCE WITH THE HVAC SYSTEM AT THE HABS.
SO IT'S STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND A LITTLE BIT, CAN I, BOB, IF YOU HAVE A SECOND, CAN I ASK, I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ON THE EMAIL THAT I GOT.
SO THE MARYLAND 250 COMMISSION, SO JUST BRIEFLY, THE THE SONS OF THE LEGION PROJECT HERE WITH PUTTING THE THING, THAT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE 250 CELEBRATION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
ARE YOU COMPLETELY SQUARED AWAY NOW WITH THOSE GUYS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING THAT HERE, AND IS THAT ALL IN PLACE? I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE 100% THERE YET.
I JUST COMMUNICATED WITH JAMIE YESTERDAY AND TALKED TO 42.
THEY GOT THE OKAY TO USE ELECTRICITY THROUGH PARKS AND REC.
SO WHAT PARTS DON'T WE HAVE? BECAUSE I WANT THIS TO GO SMOOTHLY.
THAT WAS JUST THE EMAIL THAT I SENT TO THE THREE OF YOU, WHICH I THINK IS SETTLED NOW.
SO I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOUR RESPONSE WAS.
AND THIS $10,000, IS THIS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? I HAD WRITTEN DOWN THIS GRANT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
SO WHAT'S YOUR SPECIFIC, WHAT ARE YOU USING THAT FOR? SURE.
WE FORMED THE CAROLINE COUNTY 250 COMMISSION WITH REPRESENTATIVES.
I WAS TRYING TO SPREAD IT OUT GEOGRAPHICALLY AND AMONG DIFFERENT GROUPS.
SO MEETING WITH OUR NEW CAROLINE COUNTY 250 COMMISSION, WE DECIDED TO DEDICATE THE FUNDS TO...
HOLD ON, I'VE GOT IT HERE IN FRONT OF ME.
SO TOMORROW IS THE TIME CAPSULE OPENING.
WE'VE GOT SOME FUNDS SET ASIDE TO PUT TOGETHER A DISPLAY WITH WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THAT TIME CAPSULE.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S ITEMS IN THERE THAT ARE WORTH DISPLAYING.
AND THEN THAT WILL BECOME A ROTATING DISPLAY.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH CAROLINE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ON THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE A LIBERTY TREE PLANNING WITH DATES TO BE DETERMINED.
THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH DNR AND MARYLAND HERITAGE AREAS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF VIEWING THOSE AS SISTER EVENTS.
WE'VE GOT $2,500 DEDICATED TO THAT.
NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE DAY, THAT'S A NEW EVENT, A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LEVERTON HUBBARD FOUNDATION AND THE CAROLINE COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY, IF I'M SAYING THIS CORRECTLY, THE NOSS WAYWASH BAND OF INDIANS.
THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.
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$2,000 FOR SPEAKERS, THE COST TO BRING EXPERT SPEAKERS THERE.THEN THERE'S CHESAPEAKE HOMELANDS.
THAT IS AN ONGOING SERIES OF EVENTS.
$2,000 TO ATKINS ARBORETUM TO HOST A KICKOFF.
THE DATE FOR THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED.
$1,000 TO SUPPLEMENT THE FIREWORKS BUDGET.
HARLEM RENAISSANCE, WHICH IS AN ONGOING SERIES OF EVENTS WITH THE CAROLINE COUNTY COUNCIL OF ARTS.
THAT'S HIGHLIGHTING 100 YEARS OF MUSIC AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARTISTS.
AND I GUESS THE WAVE OF JAZZ THAT CAME OUT OF HARLEM, AND THAT'S A NATIONWIDE EVENT THAT WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN.
AND THEN JUNETEENTH, THAT'S MOUNT PLEASANT HERITAGE PRESERVATION, THE NONPROFIT, $1,000 TO SUPPORT THAT EVENT.
AND THEN MUSIC OF THE NATION, FEDERALSBURG HISTORIC SOCIETY, $500.
WE JUST GOT THE DATE FOR THAT ONE.
THAT IS, I'M GOING TO BE REVOLUTIONARY WAR ERA MUSIC.
AND THEN WE HAVE $5,000 SET ASIDE FOR MARKETING COLLATERAL.
WE'VE GOT A DRAFT, YOU COULD SAY, OF A NEW PAGE ON OUR TOURISM WEBSITE TO PROMOTE ALL THESE EVENTS.
PROBABLY GOING TO DO A BANNER AND COLLATERAL, SOME SORT OF ITEM, A KEEPSAKE.
NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDS, WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH THE 250 COMMISSION AGAIN AND KIND OF HONE IN ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT $5,000.
SO IT'S SPREAD OUT AMONG DIFFERENT...
YES, AND THAT, IN A WAY, IS MEETING THE GUIDELINES OF THIS FUND, WHICH IS TO JUST HIGHLIGHT NUMEROUS CULTURES, TRY TO GET EVERYONE INVOLVED, HIT THE WHOLE COUNTY.
I DIDN'T REALLY EXPLAIN THIS, BUT THESE EVENTS ARE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, TOO.
ARE THERE ANY TRADITIONAL FOURTH OF JULY PARADES? SO PART OF THE REASON WE SET $5,000 ASIDE IS BECAUSE WE ARE HOPING TO CAPTURE AND PROMOTE MORE EVENTS.
LIKE WE JUST GOT WORD THAT THE FIBER ARTS CENTER IS DOING SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AN EVENT, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET FOLKS TO...
TO QUOTE WHAT THEY SAID, USE YOUR ARTISTIC JUICES TO CREATE WHAT THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY MEANS TO YOU.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT PRESTON IS WORKING ON A PICNIC, WHICH FALLS IN LINE WITH THE NATIONWIDE MOVEMENT, PART OF THE FEDERAL TO STATE, TO OUR 250 COMMISSION.
IT'S CALLED THE NATIONAL POTLUCK.
THEY WANT FOLKS TO GET TOGETHER AND BRING DISHES AND JUST PICNIC LIKE WE DO ON THE FOURTH OF JULY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MEET THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND WE'RE HOPING TO CAPTURE MORE AND SUPPORT MORE EVENTS JUST BY PROMOTING THEM, TRYING TO DRIVE TURNOUT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DURING THE 200TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR THAT SUMMER, MULTIPLE TOWNS HAD PARADES AROUND THE 4TH OF JULY.
PRESTON'S TALKING ABOUT A PARADE.
RIDGELY IS TALKING ABOUT A PARADE.
DID THEY HAVE LIKE A REENACTMENT OUT HERE OR SOMETHING? YEAH, I THINK THEY DID.
I THINK THE COMMISSIONER'S ALL DRESSED UP WITH LIKE THE COLONIAL STUFF NOW.
SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT.
I WILL PERSONALLY SEE TO THIS COSTUME.
I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU IN THEM TO PROMOTE SUMMERFEST.
ONLY IF I COULD WEAR LIKE A REALLY HIGH PANTS WITH THE, YEAH, LIKE THE.
IF YOU CAN GET ME AN OUTFIT, I'LL RING THE BELL AND I'LL PLAY TOM CRYER, HEAR YE, HEAR YE.
LARRY'S PROBABLY GOT ONE SOMEWHERE.
I PLAY, KNICKERBOCKERS WHEN YOU PLAY GOLF.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S GOOD ITEMS IN THIS TIME CAPSULE BECAUSE OF THE VEIN EVENT WE'RE LOOKING AT, SO WE CAN DISPLAY THEM AT SUMMERFEST.
THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE ONE OF MY...
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, BUT I PLAN ON SO TOMORROW OUT HERE ON THE GREEN AT ONE O'CLOCK COMMISSIONER BARKS IS GONNA HELP ME DIG THE DIG THE TIME CAPSULE UP AND OPEN IT UP.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOMETHING IT'S NOT RUINED.
SHE'S SO EXCITED OKAY ALL RIGHT, WELL, KEEP US POSTED ON THE PARADE STUFF.
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I FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING.SO, I ALWAYS HESITATE TO COMMIT OTHER FOLKS, BUT PRESTON'S LOOKING AT ONE.
RIDGELY IS LOOKING TO DO IT WITH THEIR STRAWBERRY FEST, BUT THEY WANT TO THEME IT.
PROBABLY TRY TO BRING OUT MORE VETERANS.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, KEEP US POSTED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY PARADES.
ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD? YEAH, YEAH.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.
THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON IS DAYSPRING APARTMENTS.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
I BELIEVE MY ATTORNEY, STUART BARREL, PROVIDED YOU WITH AN UPDATE.
AN EMAIL LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW I WON'T GO THROUGH HIS UPDATE BUT KIND OF CLOSING DATE IS STILL FOR APRIL 16TH OTHER UPDATES ARE THEY CONTINUE TO ASK FOR INFORMATION AND SAFETY TO THE MOST EXTENT AND MYSELF OR AND HATTIE ARE YOU KNOW RAPIDLY RESPONDING AT LEAST AS FAST AS WE CAN TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION WE DON'T HAVE THE APPRAISAL YET.
SO YEAH, THAT WAS INTERESTING.
SO ANYWAY, WE'RE STILL GOING FORWARD AS FAST AS WE CAN.
AND AGAIN, CLOSING IS NOW SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 16TH. OKAY.
WE'RE CROSSING OUR FINGERS, THE BUYER'S CROSSING THEIR FINGERS.
IS THAT IT? YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, THE DISCUSSION PERIOD.
THE ONLY THING I GOT IS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS, DID YOU GUYS GET A PICTURE OF MARK'S SIGN? THAT SOMEONE WAS IN BAD SHAPE AND HE REPLACED HIM? HE'S NOT IN HERE.
HE HAD SOME SIGNS THAT WERE REALLY GETTING ROUGH.
SEVERAL MONTHS AND THEN AGAIN A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND HE FINALLY GOT THEM FIXED THEY LOOK VERY WAS THAT THE FETTLESBURG FETTLESBURG WAS ONE BUT I THINK HE FIXED THE ONES OUT TO DENTON OR TWO RIGHT YEAH THE FETTLESBURG WAS THE MAIN ONE FETTLESBURG WAS THE ONE I GOT THE PHOTOS FOR YEAH YEAH YEAH BUT IT LOOKS GOOD MR REPORT YEAH I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THE BUDGET AND I'LL HOLD OFF MOST OF IT FOR WHEN WE ADOPT IT BUT UM THE BUDGET THAT WE WORKED ON TODAY REFLECTS A TWO CENT PROPERTY TAX DECREASE AND IT ALSO REFLECTS A TWO CENT DECREASE IN THE DIFFERENTIAL FOR THE TOWNS.
I HAD A GOOD MEETING YESTERDAY WITH TENTON TOWN MANAGER SCOTT GETCHELL AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING AND I AM ASSUMING.
THAT THAT DIFFERENTIAL WILL BE PASSED ALONG TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN.
AND THE INTENTION OF THIS DECREASE IS TO HELP OFFSET THE ASSESSMENTS.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALL BEEN HIT BY THESE ASSESSMENTS, AND IT'S BEING DONE IN GOOD FAITH.
YOU KNOW YOU TAKE THAT DIFFERENTIAL AND PASS IT ALONG SO THAT'S THE INTENTION UM I WAS CONTACTED LATE YESTERDAY EVENING BY MR BAILEY TERENCE BAILEY COMMISSIONER BARTZ I THINK YOU AND I TALKED TO THIS GENTLEMAN AT THE LIBRARY ONE DAY YES SOME TIME AGO YES UM HE HAS A PROJECT CALLED THE ANNA MURRAY DOUGLAS VISITOR AND HERITAGE CENTER WHICH IS A BUILDING IN WEST DENTON THAT THEY HAVE OR ON THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING AND HE'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING GRANT MONEY AND HE CONTACTED ME ABOUT THE CANNABIS FUNDS.
I EXPLAINED TO HIM WHERE WE WERE.
HE HAD BEEN, HE HAD HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFICULTY IN TYING DOWN WHERE WE CAN SPEND THIS MONEY AND HE UNDERSTOOD.
HE INDICATED TO ME THEY HAD SOME PERSON WORKING IN WITH THEIR ORGANIZATION.
WHO HE FELT COULD MOVE THAT ALONG, BUT HE HAS, I FORWARDED HIS EMAIL TO YOU GUYS TOO.
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT TO ME.
I TOLD HIM THAT I WOULD TALK ABOUT IT TODAY, AND I THINK
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THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE GETTING CLOSE TO A POINT WHERE WE JUST SUBMIT PROJECTS AND SAY, CAN WE DO THIS OR NOT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WAIT.I MEAN, HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING AT ALL? I KNOW MAKO JUST FINISHED UP A REVIEW OF THE CANNABIS REGULATIONS THAT CAME FROM THE SOCIAL EQUITY OFFICE.
SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE RELEASED IN THE FUTURE.
SOUNDS LIKE SOONER VERSUS LATER, POTENTIALLY.
WE GOT A SNEAK PEEK TO SOME OF IT.
SO IT'S ON MY LIST TO REVIEW AND GO THROUGH TO SEE IF IT'LL HELP US BE ABLE TO SPEND THE FUNDS.
I MEAN, THESE FUNDS ARE THERE.
AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME VERY VIABLE.
USES FOR HIM AND YOU KNOW I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO HIM HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS SAYING BECAUSE HE HAD HEARD IT FROM OTHER PLACES TOO, SO BUT THIS DESCRIBES HIS PLAN COME IN REMEMBER ONE DAY.
YES, HE DID AND AND I THINK WE TALKED TO HIM AT THE LIBRARY FUNCTION SO I THINK HE'S A YOU KNOW CERTAINLY SERIOUS SERIOUS PERSON I THINK THEY'VE GOTTEN SOME FUNDS.
THEY ARE BASICALLY REQUESTING FUNDS FOR A BUS TO DO TOURS OF THE DIFFERENT HARRY TUBMAN TRAIL AND FREDERICK DOUGLASS TRAIL.
I THINK HE GOT A LEGISLATIVE BOND.
BOB, I MAY PUT HIM IN TOUCH WITH YOU, BUT- JUST THE ONLY THING TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH FOR THAT BUILDING, CUZ IT'S ALL IN SEPTIC.
AND YOU KNOW DEALING WITH THE SUBJECT SYSTEM AND ALSO PLANNING AND CODES IF IT FITS OUR ZONING RIGHT WHAT WE ALLOW IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS TOO BECAUSE THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA YEAH.
MY UNDERSTANDING, THE PLACEMENT OF THAT THICK IN PARKING.
WELL, HE INDICATED TO ME THAT THEY HAD PURCHASED THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR AS WELL.
SO THEY'VE GOT THE HOUSE, THEY HAD PURCHASED THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, AND THEY'VE ALREADY, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
BUT HE KNOWS THAT, AND THEY'RE WORKING TOWARD THAT.
THEY'VE RECEIVED SOME SUBSTANTIAL BOND MONEY.
YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, AND THEY HAVE THAT.
BUT, I MEAN, I THINK HE'S, YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE BEING VERY DILIGENT IN WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING.
I DID HAVE SOMEONE REACH OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT STORM DAMAGE ASSISTANCE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET BACK.
I'LL GET YOU THE PERSON'S NAME, AND MAYBE YOU CAN MESSAGE THEM TO JUST FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
MY RESPONSE WAS I WASN'T AWARE OF ANY GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE FOR DAMAGE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE AVAILABLE THAT DOUG KNOWS ABOUT OR MARK.
LEAST ASK AND LOOK INTO IT TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING.
ERIC PETERSON AND HIS ORGANIZATION THAT HE DOES, HE'S LOOKING TO HELP.
I HAVE THAT INFORMATION SO JUST SEND THAT TO ME.
ALRIGHT, I'LL GET THAT TO YOU.
THE OTHER THING WAS LAST WEEK, SO.
I THANK EVERYONE, NOTICE SUSAN ROMMELS OF THE HUMAN SERVICES COUNCIL, LOCAL MANAGEMENT BOARD, WHICH...
BUT WITH THAT, SHE HAS DECIDED TO RETIRE.
I GUESS HER TITLE, WAS SHE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR? I THINK SO.
SO IT HAS SPURRED A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE THE LOCAL MANAGEMENT BOARD GOES FROM HERE.
I THINK IT'S A MANDATED PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF CHILDREN.
IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S THE CORRECT TITLE.
THEY CHANGE TITLES ALL THE TIME.
YEAH, THEY CHANGE ABOUT EVERY WEEK, BUT IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WAS SHIFTED TO BE A NON- KIND OF, IT'S NOT EVEN QUASI GOVERNMENT ENTITY, IT'S JUST A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT HAS COUNTY REPRESENTATION ON IT.
I BELIEVE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAS TO SERVE, OR OUR DESIGNEE HAS TO SERVE AS A BOARD MEMBER.
SO WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT IT WAS CREATED AS A NON-PROFIT
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INDEPENDENT OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO SOLICIT GRANT FUNDING FROM LARGE CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS TO FUND PROGRAMS, ATTRACT MONEY, AND SPEND MONEY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE NOT BE ALLOWED TO PASS THROUGH A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.AND FORGIVE ME IF I'M BUTCHERING ALL THIS.
THE, AND THAT REALLY HAS NOT HAPPENED.
IT'S NEVER CAME TO FRUITION THAT WE'VE EVER RECEIVED ANY, OR AT LEAST ANY QUANTIFIABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION.
SO THE THOUGHT IS, DO WE JUST DO AWAY WITH IT BEING A SEPARATE 501? I BELIEVE.
THE BOARD OF EDUCATION HAS BEEN DOING THE HR FUNCTIONS AND THEY NO LONGER REALLY WANNA DO THAT.
AT SOME POINT THEY WERE, IF THEY'RE NOT.
I THINK IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT PULLING THEM IN AND MAKING THEM COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU GUYS, FOR US TO THINK ABOUT IT, DO AWAY WITH THE BOARD.
THE BOARD, OR MAYBE HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD.
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S COUNTY OR NOT.
STATUTORILY, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE BOARD AND IT HAS TO BE MADE UP THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
I'M SURE THE STATE LAW DICTATES THE MEMBERSHIP, AT LEAST PARTS OF THE MEMBERSHIP.
BRING THEM IN GARRETT COUNTY LOOK INTO HOW GARRETT COUNTY AND SOME OTHER COUNTIES WERE STRUCTURED WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THESE AS SEPARATE OUTSIDE ENTITIES.
IT JUST PUT IT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM.
WHEN THEY WERE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, THEY DON'T HAVE HR ABILITY.
THE BOARD, IT'S HARD TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE BOARD OVER AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT INTERNAL AGENCIES THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN MANAGING THIS AS A SUBSIDIARY SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIND A HOME FOR IT INSIDE THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT IT'S JUST A MATTER ARE WE WILLING TO DO IT.
IT'S TWO EMPLOYEES? IT'S TWO EMPLOYEES, YEAH.
AND YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T NEED AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR YOU WOULDN'T NEED IF IT CAME IN UNDER A COUNTY AGENCY YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T.
I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH- WHERE WE CAN PUT THEM? IT COULD GO IN RECREATION AND PARKS OR ROBIN.
I BELIEVE, I DON'T WANNA VOLUNTEER ROBIN.
I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HER DIRECTLY, BUT I BELIEVE ROBIN CAHILL IS ALSO A VOLUNTEER TO MANAGE THE- DEPARTMENT I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY I'M NOT THROWING YOU UNDER BUS JAMIE BUT I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD FALL MORE IN LINE BUT BECAUSE OF THE KID IT'S MORE KID ORIENTED NOT KID CHILDREN I'M VERY UNDERAGE ORIENTED YOU KNOW UM I MEAN MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE WOULD BE WE BECOME THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THAT FALL YEAH FALL UNDER OUR AUSPICES AND WE HIRED AND IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY FUNDED BY THE WAY IT'S FUNDED NOW.
IT WOULDN'T COST THE COUNTY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ADDITIONAL HR FUNCTION THAT OUR HR DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ON FOR TWO MORE EMPLOYEES.
BUT SALARIES, BENEFITS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD COME FROM STATE FUNDING, FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
OVER THE YEARS, THIS HAS BEEN A- I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN A PROGRAM THAT HAS CONSTANTLY CHANGED.
IT USED TO BE THE OFFICE OF GOVERNORS CHILDREN'S CABINET, RIGHT? AND THEN IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE.
THE PROBLEM THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS WITH THIS IS THEY ESTABLISH THESE PILLARS.
WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SPEND MONEY FOR THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF TIMES THE PILLARS DON'T MATCH UP AND HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING WE DO IN THIS CAMP WE NEED OR EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY NO AND I MEAN AND THERE FOR EXAMPLE AND I'M NOT SAYING
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THERE WAS A PILLAR THAT WAS CHILDREN OF INCARCERATED VICTIMS RIGHT SO AND I KEPT SAYING WHEN I TALKED ABOUT IT WELL HOW DO WE HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE THEM, BUT WHAT DO WE DO? AND IT WAS ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT SOUND WONDERFUL, BUT WHEN YOU START TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THEM, YOU CAN'T MEET THE PILLARS.AND WHEN THEY START TELLING YOU YOU HAVE TO MEET THESE CERTAIN GOALS, WELL, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE IN MONTGOMERY OR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY? I MEAN, IT HAS REALLY BEEN A...
THROUGHOUT ADMINISTRATIONS, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT ONE OR THE ONE BEFORE.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME A GOVERNOR COMES IN, THEY WANT TO CHANGE EVERYTHING.
THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE WHOLE CONCEPT.
AND IT'S JUST BEEN DIFFICULT FOR SUSAN TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT SHE'S ALLOWED TO SPEND MONEY ON. I KNOW AT ONE POINT THE LOCAL MANAGEMENT BOARD FUNDED, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE SCHOOLS. SEX EDUCATION INSTRUCTOR. SO THEY DID THAT FOR A WHILE, THEN THEY CAME ALONG AND SAID, NO, THE TEACHER'S GONNA DO THAT.
WELL, THE PROBLEM WAS THEY DIDN'T TELL THE TEACHER. AND SO I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW, THE PIGEON HOLES THAT YOU GOTTA FIT THIS MONEY IS REALLY DIFFICULT. SO IF IT COMES INTO THE COUNTY, MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL, BUT I STILL THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE BASIC.
PARAMETERS OF HOW YOU CAN SPEND IT, KIND OF LIKE CANNABIS, LIKE HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SPEND THIS MONEY AND YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU SPEND IT. YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU REMEMBER FROM YEAR TO YEAR WHAT CHANGES, WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH LOOKING AT DOING THIS. I MEAN, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. AND AGAIN, I THINK THE STRUGGLE FOR THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK, THEY WANT HEALTH INSURANCE.
THEY WANT DAYS OFF. THEY WANT VACATIONS. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A BOARD, THOSE BOARDS ARE NOT.
THEY'RE BOARDS WHO SERVE ON THE BOARD, BUT THEY'RE NOT COMPANIES, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS. THEY DON'T HAVE HUMAN RESOURCE ASPECTS. IF WE CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BY PUTTING IT HERE, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT WE GO, BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL I KNEW WHAT YOU GUYS, HOW YOU GUYS FELT ABOUT IT. IF IT'S THE BEST THING FOR THE KIDS, THE DISADVANTAGED KIDS IN THE COUNTY, THEN THAT'S THE BEST THING TO DO. JAMIE, ARE YOU ABLE TO DO AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS WITH ANY OF THIS MONEY ANYMORE? WE STILL ARE, YEAH. DENTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS FUNDED THROUGH THE LOCAL MANAGEMENT BOARD. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMES NEXT YEAR. BECAUSE AT ONE TIME THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT NOT DOING THAT. THEY DID, THEY TOOK THE FUNDING AWAY BECAUSE IT IS A FIRST RESORT AND THE SCHOOL HAD OUR FASTER FUNDS THAT FUNDED ALL TO TWO YEARS. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, IT CHANGES CONSTANTLY AND YOU GOTTA REALLY KEEP, YOU GOTTA, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU NEED A MAP TO KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF IT. THAT'S THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN ANYWAY BECAUSE OF EVOLVING AND DEVOLVING.
ALRIGHT, OTHER THAN THAT I'LL SEE ANYONE WHO CAN MAKE IT OUT TOMORROW FOR THE TOM CASTLE EXCAVATION AND HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT A FLOP. I HOPE. IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD BECAUSE IT'S CAUSING ME A GOLF DAY. WHY DON'T YOU SNEAK IN THERE AND PUT SOME STUFF IN THERE OVERNIGHT? I EXPECT.
DO YOU KNOW MR. NEWSEER? YEAH, JOHN. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET A HOLD OF HIM? HE WAS THE PRINCIPAL AT NORTH CAROLINA, I THINK. CORRECT. IN 76. I KNOW JIM AND I ARE. I CAN GET HIM. PINKETT DIDN'T GET A HOLD OF HIM? SHE MIGHT HAVE, BUT I HAVE HIS CONTACT NUMBER.
MR. NUCERE'S NUMBER? YES. HE WAS MY PRINCIPAL. YES, I CAN...
SPEND A LOT OF QUALITY TIME. I CAN GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT NUMBER. I NEVER MET HIM. I MET HIM AT THE STORE. I'M NOT HIS PICTURE. I'VE CALLED HIM CURSE ANDREW. ALL RIGHT,
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THAT GOOD? SEE ANY? ARE WE GOOD? YEAH, NOPE. YOU GOOD? YEP. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE SESSION UNDER MARYLAND. THE BOARD WILL CONVENE CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS PERSONAL MATTERS CONCERNING THE APPOINTMENT OF A MEMBER TO A SPECIFIC COUNTY APPOINTED BOARD. SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION TO SECOND. ROLL CALL VOTE.MR. READING. AYE. MR. BORK.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.